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80 MTR reciving problem #noice


 

Hi all
On 80 mtr (3.600 our local net freeq) the Rx. gives lot of noice which supress the Rx signal quiet a lot. The net control gives me a rst of 59+10. where I should look for the problem


with regards
VU2TE unni


 

Check the noise level without the antenna. Sometimes the ceramic filters get noisy.?


 

Thank You Barron will try
Regards
Unni VU2TE

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:59 PM J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
Check the noise level without the antenna. Sometimes the ceramic filters get noisy.?


 

If the radio is still noisy without the antenna connected the ceramic filters are cheap and not too difficult to replace, but you have to remove the main board to get at the bottom to unsolder them.
The filters are less than $1.00.
Many people jump to these being the problem for almost any radio issue, but if the radio is internally noisy they are a good bet.?
Other issues like not transmitting on SSB would not be.
If you decide the change them the biggest problem is getting enough heat on the ground plane to unsolder that connection.
I can't speak for noise on 80 meters here as out noise level is so high that the band is unusable for me.?


 

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Unless that noise is still there with the antenna disconnected, I'd look for some local source such as a computer, wall-wart power supply or appliance.? Run your radio off 12vdc and start turning off circuit breakers until the noise disappears.?

Ron Jakubowski
K2RJ?
Tab? S5e


 

Dear Barron
When the ant. is disconnected?the noise is less.? I feel it?might be a propagation problem. Is the ceramic filter common?for all bands and separate for each band. ? Will the antenna resonance?give a problem ? All other bands are working?Ok. I feel this rig is otherwise a bit noisy ? Any wil try experimenting?to find a solution

73s and Regards

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 5:46 PM J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
If the radio is still noisy without the antenna connected the ceramic filters are cheap and not too difficult to replace, but you have to remove the main board to get at the bottom to unsolder them.
The filters are less than $1.00.
Many people jump to these being the problem for almost any radio issue, but if the radio is internally noisy they are a good bet.?
Other issues like not transmitting on SSB would not be.
If you decide the change them the biggest problem is getting enough heat on the ground plane to unsolder that connection.
I can't speak for noise on 80 meters here as out noise level is so high that the band is unusable for me.?


 

Yes Ron. might be some related equipment might be giving problems.? Will try one by one
73s and regards
Unni VU2TE

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 7:46 PM Ron Jakubowski via <k2rj=[email protected]> wrote:
Unless that noise is still there with the antenna disconnected, I'd look for some local source such as a computer, wall-wart power supply or appliance.? Run your radio off 12vdc and start turning off circuit breakers until the noise disappears.?

Ron Jakubowski
K2RJ?
Tab? S5e


 

If you were to temporarily short the antenna the noise should disappear (almost completely)
80 meters is pretty noisy most places and could be made much worse of you are in an urban area with cheap power supplies, lights etc. I see that you are in India and depending on location you may have a great deal of offending electrical devices around.?
The noise from the receiver would be on all bands if it is the ceramic filters. The test is might be to compare on different bands and perhaps listen to a friends radio, perhaps if they could set up at your QTH.
I am lucky in that I have a good service monitor (IFR FM/AM 1200S) to check the signal to noise specs of a radio and be certain.
Often people are quick to blame those ceramic filters for almost any problem on the FT-857 and they COULD be but not even the majority of the time. A quick comparison of your radio with another either at your QTH or another might clear up the issue.


 

Thank you Barron for the tips.
Will go through?tests to find out how it can be resolved to a minimum
73s and regards
Unni VU2TE

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 8:13 PM J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
If you were to temporarily short the antenna the noise should disappear (almost completely)
80 meters is pretty noisy most places and could be made much worse of you are in an urban area with cheap power supplies, lights etc. I see that you are in India and depending on location you may have a great deal of offending electrical devices around.?
The noise from the receiver would be on all bands if it is the ceramic filters. The test is might be to compare on different bands and perhaps listen to a friends radio, perhaps if they could set up at your QTH.
I am lucky in that I have a good service monitor (IFR FM/AM 1200S) to check the signal to noise specs of a radio and be certain.
Often people are quick to blame those ceramic filters for almost any problem on the FT-857 and they COULD be but not even the majority of the time. A quick comparison of your radio with another either at your QTH or another might clear up the issue.