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Very good evening.

FT-857 is connected to N1MM+ and working with CAT control,
frequency, mode, ok... I am 75% happy.

I have just one USB-to-Serial port cable (CHK340K) LD-C100
generating COM3, the only one in my LENOVO Windows 10
notebook.

This will be the last question about this situation, and I am a real
dumb with computers. By the way, I am not FT-857 regular user.

Is that possible to share this LD-C100 cable to control a CW?
computer generating signal? Or I need to find a kind of
USB-to-CW (?) cable to use with a another USB in my notebook?

If not, I will take a little keyer for my "possible" I/SP9NY portable
operation next April...

Thanks a lot...

Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
PY2NY, SP9NY, V26NY
Caixa Postal 204
Jaboticabal, SP (Brasil)
14870-970

N?o cont¨¦m v¨ªrus.


Re: Replacement Parts

Robin Kidd
 

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Thank you

Robin
W4IEN


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Hank Lambert (KB4MTO) <hank@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:40:25 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FT-857] Replacement Parts
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Ham Radio Outlet sells them for $359:

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73,
--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC



On March 21, 2025 3:44:58 PM EDT, Robin Kidd <w4ien@...> wrote:
I am looking for a FT-857D replacement head. Anyone have one for sale? If not, how can you get in touch with Yaesu for replacement parts?
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Robin
W4IEN
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--Hank Lambert
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


Re: Replacement Parts

 

Ham Radio Outlet sells them for $359:

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73,
--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC



On March 21, 2025 3:44:58 PM EDT, Robin Kidd <w4ien@...> wrote:
I am looking for a FT-857D replacement head. Anyone have one for sale? If not, how can you get in touch with Yaesu for replacement parts?
?
Robin
W4IEN
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--Hank Lambert
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


Re: Replacement Parts

 

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Try

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robin Kidd
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 3:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FT-857] Replacement Parts

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I am looking for a FT-857D replacement head. Anyone have one for sale? If not, how can you get in touch with Yaesu for replacement parts?

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Robin

W4IEN

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Replacement Parts

Robin Kidd
 

I am looking for a FT-857D replacement head. Anyone have one for sale? If not, how can you get in touch with Yaesu for replacement parts?
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Robin
W4IEN
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Re: New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?

 

Have you performed the ALC adjustment for SSB? That is very important as it is set for your microphone and your voice.

It's in the manual under SSB setup and should be done when you 1st get the radio and when you change your microphone.

If you don't have a manual, you can download one from Yaesu or from my website:

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Welcome to the FT-857 world. It's an amazing radio.

73,
--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC




On March 19, 2025 12:53:23 AM EDT, "Michael KC1WDZ via groups.io" <measter@...> wrote:
Good evening everyone,?
? ? ? ?I've got a new to me FT-857D it has worked great on 2m/70cm and I just got my general ticket. I'm running a 40-10 EFHW through a ATU100 tuner.?
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With the power set to 100 I'm only seeing 30 watts at most on USB/LSB on HF. If I send CW using the microphone I see around 85w output. It seems that I'm getting little to no modulation with voice on sideband.
?
Is the microphone on it's way out or gone? The only variable I have in play i have my digirig hooked up via the din cables.
?
?
--Hank Lambert
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


Re: How can I use the 8 pin CAT connection to activate a SDR switch?

 

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Pin-2 of CAT (TX-GND) is not grounded until signal line TX-B at the base of Q1108 is brought HIGH (>0.7V, 5V I think), forward biasing B-E and B-C.?

i presume because CAT is multipurpose depending on menu settings, so you want that line grounded only when MCU decides it should be.IMG_7106.jpeg

Michael Boatright, M. Photog., CPP, GSD


Michael Boatright Photography

404.488.6644

Portraiture & Documentary Photography

Historic Wet Collodion Process

Goat Farm Arts Center

1200 Foster St., NW, Suite S301

ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30318

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael KC1WDZ via groups.io <measter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 9:15:53 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FT-857] How can I use the 8 pin CAT connection to activate a SDR switch?
?
Looking at the diagrams I tried using pin 2 (circled in red) to activate the switch. I was under the impression it was grounded while the radio was transmitting. I checked with a DMM there is no continuity between the wire attached to pin 2 and the chassis of the radio. Pin 3 shows continuity on the DMM.?
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I'm using a splitter so I can run my digirig and the switch. I verified proper operation of the switch by manually grounding the wire to the power harness of the SDR switch.?
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I also verified multiple times that the wire I'm using is pin 2.
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Am I doing something wrong ? Is there a better way? The switch is looking for a momentary ground while transmitting.?


How can I use the 8 pin CAT connection to activate a SDR switch?

 

Looking at the diagrams I tried using pin 2 (circled in red) to activate the switch. I was under the impression it was grounded while the radio was transmitting. I checked with a DMM there is no continuity between the wire attached to pin 2 and the chassis of the radio. Pin 3 shows continuity on the DMM.?
?
I'm using a splitter so I can run my digirig and the switch. I verified proper operation of the switch by manually grounding the wire to the power harness of the SDR switch.?
?
I also verified multiple times that the wire I'm using is pin 2.
?
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Am I doing something wrong ? Is there a better way? The switch is looking for a momentary ground while transmitting.?


Re: New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?

 

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Like most amateur equipment, SSB in the FT-857D is Single Sideband Supressed Carrier, unlike CW, which is actually "just" the carrier. FCC rules define amateur power in PEP [Peak Envelope Power]. (PEP is the average power of a single RF cycle at the peak of a modulation envelope. (Ed Hare, W1RFI, Excerpted from January 1998 QST). Your meter more than likely measures the power as AVERAGE POWER not PEP (My Daiwa CN-801 measures both). IF you are modulating your signal at 100% (not necessarily a good idea, as you may be splattering up and down the bands), theoretically, you should get a PEP of 100W, per the spec. Average power is going to be 20%-40% (roughly the duty cycle of unprocessed/processed speech) of that depending on how hard you are driving the modulation, based on duty cycle (compression bumps up the duty cycle).

If you look through the FT-857D Service Manual, you might notice that there isn't a procedure for checking SSB power. However, if you are getting full power out on 160-10 with FM or CW, you are getting full power out of your final (50MHz has it's own final). There are some settings you can check in the "hidden menu" but it's really not likely that there's anything wrong. A hard reset or a walk through the "hidden menu" can confirm that.

This is why you never use SSB to tune your antenna system, or why you sometimes hear hams whistling on air. They are whistling to modulate the SSB in order to get power out (No AF = no modulation = no power out on SSB). Most hams use either CW, or if you don't have a key connected, set it to FM and key the mic (note, if there is any modulation it's going to increase the deviation (i.e. bandwidth) of the FM signal. You can also configure the rig through settings to use the microphone to key CW.

73 de Mike, KO4WX


Peace and be kind,

Michael

Michael Boatright, M. Photog., CPP, GSD

Michael Boatright Photography
404.488.6644
Portraiture & Documentary Photography
Historic Wet Collodion Process

Goat Farm Arts Center

1200 Foster St., NW, Suite S301

ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30318

FB:
IG:


Certified Professional Photographer (Professional Photographers of America)


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael KC1WDZ via groups.io <measter@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 12:53 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FT-857] New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?
?
Good evening everyone,?
? ? ? ?I've got a new to me FT-857D it has worked great on 2m/70cm and I just got my general ticket. I'm running a 40-10 EFHW through a ATU100 tuner.?
?
With the power set to 100 I'm only seeing 30 watts at most on USB/LSB on HF. If I send CW using the microphone I see around 85w output. It seems that I'm getting little to no modulation with voice on sideband.
?
Is the microphone on it's way out or gone? The only variable I have in play i have my digirig hooked up via the din cables.
?
?


Re: New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?

 

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I always do a hard reset when I get used equipment. Then you can start from scratch and set it up the way you want.?



Thanks and 73,
Jim, N8JE?



-------- Original message --------
From: "Michael KC1WDZ via groups.io" <measter@...>
Date: 3/19/25 6:27 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [FT-857] New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?

Good evening everyone,?
? ? ? ?I've got a new to me FT-857D it has worked great on 2m/70cm and I just got my general ticket. I'm running a 40-10 EFHW through a ATU100 tuner.?
?
With the power set to 100 I'm only seeing 30 watts at most on USB/LSB on HF. If I send CW using the microphone I see around 85w output. It seems that I'm getting little to no modulation with voice on sideband.
?
Is the microphone on it's way out or gone? The only variable I have in play i have my digirig hooked up via the din cables.
?
?


Re: New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?

 

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On LSB / USB? you won¡¯t see a true full readings on a meter.? ?

CW? is AM and that right

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Richard

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael KC1WDZ via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 12:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FT-857] New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?

?

Good evening everyone,?

? ? ? ?I've got a new to me FT-857D it has worked great on 2m/70cm and I just got my general ticket. I'm running a 40-10 EFHW through a ATU100 tuner.?

?

With the power set to 100 I'm only seeing 30 watts at most on USB/LSB on HF. If I send CW using the microphone I see around 85w output. It seems that I'm getting little to no modulation with voice on sideband.

?

Is the microphone on it's way out or gone? The only variable I have in play i have my digirig hooked up via the din cables.

?

?


New to me FT-857D low TX power on USB/LSB CW works just fine... Bad mic? Something else?

 

Good evening everyone,?
? ? ? ?I've got a new to me FT-857D it has worked great on 2m/70cm and I just got my general ticket. I'm running a 40-10 EFHW through a ATU100 tuner.?
?
With the power set to 100 I'm only seeing 30 watts at most on USB/LSB on HF. If I send CW using the microphone I see around 85w output. It seems that I'm getting little to no modulation with voice on sideband.
?
Is the microphone on it's way out or gone? The only variable I have in play i have my digirig hooked up via the din cables.
?
?


Re: FT857 + FC-40 + CAT

 

Hi Phil

My home contest station have FTDX10 and FTDX101D and I am not
the guy that usually takes a radio in baggage while travelling.

I am not using FT857 at home, never, it's always OFF. After all those
messagens, FC-40 seems to be the right option but not exactly for?
portable operation because it's depends on FT857.

LDG is fully independent and Z11 has the capability to operate with
batteries. CAT port in FT857 will remains free to control radio from
notebook.

April will be my first experience (not counting WRTC's) with a complete
station in baggage: FT857, LongWire, ATU and power supply. Let's
see what happens.

Thanks a lot, Phil. 73 DX from Brasil.?

Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
PY2NY, SP9NY, V26NY
Caixa Postal 204
Jaboticabal, SP (Brasil)
14870-970


On Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 02:29:04 PM GMT-3, Philip - K4PO via groups.io <k4po.ars@...> wrote:


OM, The FC-40 tuner is superior to any tuner for Yaesu radios.? Others are good, but the FC-40 out does them all for whatever antenna you elect to run, base station or mobile.? Just follow the OEM instructions.? This model is actually an antenna coupler rather than tuner that fools the radio.? A Coupler presents an actual resonate state.? This is generally true for the ICOM version for ICOM rigs, Kenwood for Kenwood, et al.? Generic versions such as LDG coupler are good as well though no longer listed on their web site.? Sans the SGC-230 may it live long though no longer produced.? 73, Phil??


Re: FT857 + FC-40 + CAT

 

OM, The FC-40 tuner is superior to any tuner for Yaesu radios.? Others are good, but the FC-40 out does them all for whatever antenna you elect to run, base station or mobile.? Just follow the OEM instructions.? This model is actually an antenna coupler rather than tuner that fools the radio.? A Coupler presents an actual resonate state.? This is generally true for the ICOM version for ICOM rigs, Kenwood for Kenwood, et al.? Generic versions such as LDG coupler are good as well though no longer listed on their web site.? Sans the SGC-230 may it live long though no longer produced.? 73, Phil??


Re: FT857 + FC-40 + CAT

 

Good afternoon

Thanks a lot - I had a bunch of options now and think that
will be possible to spend some hours with FT857 on HF
bands, if the good italian wine and food left me some time
for that.
Will check for a UNUN/BALUN in Italy and try that longwire.
Very nice support from this FT-857 group, really amazing.
Thanks and see you around. 73 DX

Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
PY2NY, SP9NY, V26NY
Caixa Postal 204
Jaboticabal, SP (Brasil)
14870-970


On Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 03:35:25 PM GMT-3, Mike N2MS via groups.io <mstangelo@...> wrote:


I second the Z11Proll. It also uses latching relays so you can tune with external power source and disconnect if necessary.
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Mike N2MS

On 03/12/2025 1:00 PM EDT Leonard K. Pennock via groups.io <leonardpennock@...> wrote:
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For a travel/portable tuner I prefer the Z11ProII over the AT-100 or
AT-200.? Smaller footprint, lower current draw and accepts internal
batteries so no additional power source is needed. Tuning range and
power handling is the same as the AT-100.? All of them are wider range
than a FC40 but probably need a Balun or UNUN to work with long wire
type antennas.
?
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Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
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Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
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On 3/12/25 9:43 AM, Giuseppe Marullo[iw2jww] via groups.io wrote:
Vitor,
why don't you consider a AT-200 Pro from LDG? not weatherproof but way
capable of tuning almost everything(I guess better than FC-40) and CAT
is completely independent.
Only drawback is that it will recognize band change only if you tx,
switching bands after tuning them will require a brief press of ptt to
recall last tuning for that band frequency(very quick, like a fraction
of a sec).
It could be even remoted, no connection beside the coax and some sort
of power supply.
Once tuned, you could even shut down the power and save battery.
I have a AT-100 Pro, it will tune 1.5W and it could be a good choice
for QRP(though form factor could be smaller).
Giuseppe Marullo
IW2JWW - JN45RQ
>
>
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Re: FT857 + FC-40 + CAT

 

I second the Z11Proll. It also uses latching relays so you can tune with external power source and disconnect if necessary.
?
Mike N2MS

On 03/12/2025 1:00 PM EDT Leonard K. Pennock via groups.io <leonardpennock@...> wrote:
?
?
For a travel/portable tuner I prefer the Z11ProII over the AT-100 or
AT-200.? Smaller footprint, lower current draw and accepts internal
batteries so no additional power source is needed. Tuning range and
power handling is the same as the AT-100.? All of them are wider range
than a FC40 but probably need a Balun or UNUN to work with long wire
type antennas.
?
?
?
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
?
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
?
On 3/12/25 9:43 AM, Giuseppe Marullo[iw2jww] via groups.io wrote:
Vitor,
why don't you consider a AT-200 Pro from LDG? not weatherproof but way
capable of tuning almost everything(I guess better than FC-40) and CAT
is completely independent.
Only drawback is that it will recognize band change only if you tx,
switching bands after tuning them will require a brief press of ptt to
recall last tuning for that band frequency(very quick, like a fraction
of a sec).
It could be even remoted, no connection beside the coax and some sort
of power supply.
Once tuned, you could even shut down the power and save battery.
I have a AT-100 Pro, it will tune 1.5W and it could be a good choice
for QRP(though form factor could be smaller).
Giuseppe Marullo
IW2JWW - JN45RQ
>
>
?


Re: FT857 + FC-40 + CAT

 

Agreed,
but I do like all the bells and whistles the AT-100 has, SWR and power meter, 2 antennas switch, programmable threshold and so on.

Giuseppe Marullo
IW2JWW - JN45RQ


Re: FT857 + FC-40 + CAT

 

For a travel/portable tuner I prefer the Z11ProII over the AT-100 or AT-200.? Smaller footprint, lower current draw and accepts internal batteries so no additional power source is needed. Tuning range and power handling is the same as the AT-100.? All of them are wider range than a FC40 but probably need a Balun or UNUN to work with long wire type antennas.




Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS

Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.

On 3/12/25 9:43 AM, Giuseppe Marullo[iw2jww] via groups.io wrote:
Vitor,
why don't you consider a AT-200 Pro from LDG? not weatherproof but way capable of tuning almost everything(I guess better than FC-40) and CAT is completely independent.

Only drawback is that it will recognize band change only if you tx, switching bands after tuning them will require a brief press of ptt to recall last tuning for that band frequency(very quick, like a fraction of a sec).

It could be even remoted, no connection beside the coax and some sort of power supply.
Once tuned, you could even shut down the power and save battery.

I have a AT-100 Pro, it will tune 1.5W and it could be a good choice for QRP(though form factor could be smaller).

Giuseppe Marullo
IW2JWW - JN45RQ






Re: FT857 + FC-40 + CAT

 

Vitor,
why don't you consider a AT-200 Pro from LDG? not weatherproof but way capable of tuning almost everything(I guess better than FC-40) and CAT is completely independent.

Only drawback is that it will recognize band change only if you tx, switching bands after tuning them will require a brief press of ptt to recall last tuning for that band frequency(very quick, like a fraction of a sec).

It could be even remoted, no connection beside the coax and some sort of power supply.
Once tuned, you could even shut down the power and save battery.

I have a AT-100 Pro, it will tune 1.5W and it could be a good choice for QRP(though form factor could be smaller).

Giuseppe Marullo
IW2JWW - JN45RQ


Re: FT-857d WILL NOT TURN ON. CYCLES ON/OFF ABOUT ONCE PER SECOND CONTINOUSLY

 

I have tried multiple cables. the last of which came from an unopened separation kit.?
the jack on the head is newly replaced by yaesu. I'll check the jack on the radio and if nothing found, I guess it's off to Yaesu.
Thank you for all the info.
K3MRK