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Daniel family of Rowan County,
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Sorry, Marshall, I have nothing.
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On 8/9/2022 7:48 PM, Marshall Daniels wrote:
Peter Daniel S |
It should be noted that the Y DNA of the supposed descendant of Ambrose Daniel in the Daniel Y DNA Project, does not reflect the actual potential Y DNA of the line of Ambrose Daniel. There was a very recent break, an NPE, in the line of the participant who took a Y DNA test. The break was with the father or grandfather of the participant based on the closeness of matches to other men in the FTDNA database. All of their close Y DNA matches were to men with the surname "Mills" who lived in the same geographic region as the participant's close family. There are no other participants from this Daniel line in the project.
Based on research, as I recall, it does appear that Ambrose was closely connected to Peter Daniel, but it has been a few years since I looked at the data. |
If you are speaking of Payne, I know. I spoke with his son. On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 8:58 PM Kevin Daniel via <kwqd=[email protected]> wrote: It should be noted that the Y DNA of the supposed descendant of Ambrose Daniel in the Daniel Y DNA Project, does not reflect the actual potential Y DNA of the line of Ambrose Daniel. There was a very recent break, an NPE, in the line of the participant who took a Y DNA test. The break was with the father or grandfather of the participant based on the closeness of matches to other men in the FTDNA database. All of their close Y DNA matches were to men with the surname "Mills" who lived in the same geographic region as the participant's close family. There are no other participants from this Daniel line in the project. |
Yes. I worked with Payne on this, trying to determine where the break occurred using primary records, but we were unsuccessful and could not get a response from his close Mills cousins. Payne was never able to locate his parent's marriage certificate which was unusual. Payne had a nephew from a younger brother, I believe, who would be a good candidate for a Y DNA test, but Payne did not want to pursue it. Other than that, I believe that Payne was never able to locate another descendant of Ambrose Daniel.
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?Concerning Ambrose Daniel, his will names a son Joseph. In the deed records for York county SC ,Sarah Daniel formerly Sarah Edwards, Ambrose' wife, is selling a parcel that appears to be her widows dower . The record mentions, that she's the widow of Ambrose,? ?Staunton Edwards (married to Sarah Daniel ) with Willis and Britton Daniel of NC, Wylie Crock and Chloe, (Chloe being another of Ambrose daughters) Joseph Daniel , Ambrose Daniel, Mary Daniel and Sion Daniel all of SC. This clearly puts Joseph in the York SC area the deed record was dated 1814. In the 1810 census for York? we find Sarah Daniel with two sons that would be the right age to be Joseph and Sion and possibly a wife and one granddaughter, 1820 census we find Joseph Daniel and the entry right above him is John Edwards ( Sarah had a brother John), there are only a couple Daniel's in the census for York and Chester counties, that I have found, and only one Joseph. The Joseph Daniel in York/Chester married Jane Simmons and they had 4 children, Joseph died abt 1824 , there are two y-dna tests that are descendants of this Joseph, part of a group of 19 of us now. One of the other? matches in this group has a strong connection to Joseph Daniel sr of Brunswick, I feel I have proof of this and there are 4 matches that are strongly connected to Isham Daniel of Chatham NC. This Isham is believed by many to be the son of John Daniel carpenter of Brunswick.? If more details are needed I will be glad to share what I have.?
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