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Happy to find this group.
Got a lot 5 from my Dad prior to his passing.? It's in sad shape but looks to be complete.? I'm hoping to start the long process of getting it back into usable shape soon.
It's dirty, a little rusty, and covered in a lot of paint.? Also looks like it was either dropped or something fell onto it years ago.? The lower side cover is cracked and repaired OK.? The upper side cover is cracked and pretty badly repaired with missing bits.? Also noticed a crack in the semi-circular band-shaped guard on top.? I think it may have come from my old school's shop as my Dad worked for the maintenance dept a couple decades ago and I know they disbanded the shop about the same time due to supposed lack of interest.
But other than poor aesthetics, it's looking like it's functionally OK.? Really won't know until I dive into it.
Going to be some time before I start on it.? Still reading and learning.? Looks like this one was set up to turn wood at some point.
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If you can post pictures we can help with your repairs and restorations.? Also your serial number please. ? Dennis ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: chrisser via groups.ioSent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 7:10 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [DaltonLathes] Hello everyone ? Happy to find this group.
Got a lot 5 from my Dad prior to his passing.? It's in sad shape but looks to be complete.? I'm hoping to start the long process of getting it back into usable shape soon.
It's dirty, a little rusty, and covered in a lot of paint.? Also looks like it was either dropped or something fell onto it years ago.? The lower side cover is cracked and repaired OK.? The upper side cover is cracked and pretty badly repaired with missing bits.? Also noticed a crack in the semi-circular band-shaped guard on top.? I think it may have come from my old school's shop as my Dad worked for the maintenance dept a couple decades ago and I know they disbanded the shop about the same time due to supposed lack of interest.
But other than poor aesthetics, it's looking like it's functionally OK.? Really won't know until I dive into it.
Going to be some time before I start on it.? Still reading and learning.? Looks like this one was set up to turn wood at some point.
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Appears to be Lot 5 - 275.
It's not in an easy place to get to right now - it may not be big, but it's not something I want to trip over.? But I'll try to drag it out and get some pics over the weekend.
My shop is unheated so we're getting to the point where it can be pretty miserable to work in, so I doubt I'll be doing much on the Dalton besides evaluation and planning until the temps warm up a bit.
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Thanks for posting all the pictures.? It’s a shame that the end
door and the small upper gear guard are damaged.? I can tell you exactly how
this happened.? These lathes are prone to tipping over not front to back or
back to front but end to end with the head stock end ending up on the floor.?
Almost happened to me two times while moving one of my Daltons.? Second I
wonder why the shop made bed feet.? Tell us the height of them and maybe they
made taller ones for more clearance under the bed or just to raise the lathe
up. ??Everything looks correct other than the bed feet and the gear door
damage. ?No damage to the compound so it has not been run into the chuck that’s
a sign of experience and being carful as so many of these the end of the
compound slide is all chewed up. Your serial number would put it in the first month
or two of the beginning of production for the Lot 5 in 1922.? Interesting
countershaft setup but looks like it will run the lathe at the correct speeds.
The only thing I see missing is the extension for the cross slide.
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So after you have the lathe up on that very interesting stand?
and you have the lathe cleaned up you will need to go after the V and flat ways
with red scotchbright pad to clean them up and remove the buildup of crud and
corrosion.
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It looks like you have eight or nine of the back gears.? The set
originally was a stack of 15 gears. Much better than most old Daltons found.?
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By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post?? That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.? Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled crooked or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be cast iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.
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This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only
it has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.? In the picture
you can see the cross slide extension.? Dennis
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By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post??
That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like
I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from
my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.?
Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell
over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned
ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits
supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked
well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it
fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves
but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the
crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly
intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper
cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it
will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft
also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although
it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled
crooked or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be
cast iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it
might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.
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This is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at my
company.? Company sold antique machines on display now for sale.? Dennis
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This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only it
has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.? In the picture
you can see the cross slide extension.? Dennis
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By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post??
That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like
I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from
my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.?
Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell
over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned
ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits
supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked
well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it
fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves
but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the
crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly
intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper
cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it
will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft
also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although
it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled crooked
or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be cast
iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it might be
time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.
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Dennis, Your selling your restored lathes? Laddie
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On Dec 19, 2021, at 11:01 PM, Dennis Turk < dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
This is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at my
company.? Company sold antique machines on display now for sale.? Dennis
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This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only it
has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.? In the picture
you can see the cross slide extension.? Dennis
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By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post??
That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like
I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from
my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.?
Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell
over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned
ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits
supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked
well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it
fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves
but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the
crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly
intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper
cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it
will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft
also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although
it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled crooked
or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be cast
iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it might be
time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.
<Copy of Pictures to send to Tony 022.jpg>
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Yes Laddie there is no place to display them any longer and I am
getting on in age so these machines need to go to a good home.? Sold all
four shapers so far the SB Drill Press as well as one of the Atlas lathes and
the Atlas horizontal mill. Still have over 30 machines that need to find a new
home.? Gad can’t figure how I collected and restored so many.?
The count is actually over sixty machines since 1998. Last summer I finished up
a 9 by 42 inch South Bend for a good friend back in Michigan and he and his
wife came out in July to pick it up.? So far I have restored or assembled
from restored parts six SB lathes I gave to friends.
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Probably the best Dalton I have for a home shop lathe is the Lot
6 serial number 7014 The next to the newest Dalton we know of as it was sold in
midsummer of 1929 in Seattle Washington.? That lathe has wonderful
upgrades for the dial rings and for a long time we thought that it was something
the factory was starting to do as we all know Dalton dial rings suck.?
Then a few years ago a Lot 6 showed up with a newer serial number than mine and
it still had the original little dial rings on it.? So that told us that
the ones on my lathe were shop made but you would never have known it by
looking at them or using them The lathe is the best equipped lathe I have as
well as being mounted on a custom stand and custom chip tray. It also has an Australian
Hercuse vertical countershaft that is bolted to the Tee slot on the back of the
lathe bed.? Fit perfectly just like it was meant to be there. ?I used
this lathe for a couple of years in my little shop I have at the Oregon coast
and I built two? model stationary steam engines with it. It’s really
accurate but by modern standards a bit slow.? With drip feed oilers for
the head stock I spin the lathe a bit over 1000 rpm. ?The lathe has a
modern quick change tool post and a bunch of holders that have really nice
insert tooling in them. ?Also this lathe has a really neat shop made cam
lock setup for the tail stock so no wrench is needed to lock it down. This
lathe was never displayed as it was not original.? All the lathes or
shapers I displayed were all factory correct as they would have been when new.?
This is some pictures of that lathe in case anyone wants to make a trip to
Oregon to pick it upJ? Dennis.
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laddie via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 7:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DaltonLathes] Hello everyone
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Your selling your restored lathes?
This is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at my
company.? Company sold antique machines on display now for sale.?
Dennis
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This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only
it has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.? In the
picture you can see the cross slide extension.? Dennis
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By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post??
That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like
I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from
my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.?
Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell
over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned
ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits
supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked
well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it
fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves
but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the
crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly
intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper
cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it
will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft
also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although
it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled
crooked or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be
cast iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it
might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.
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Laddie I have visited the Wonderland of Dennis Turk; seen his shop and his lathes and machines. ?Had some wonderful conversations with the “Master of Dalton”. ?Last visit, if only I had a flat bed trailer with me I would have gone home with a wonderful prize. ?Dennis is a wealth of knowledge and just a fun guy to chat with. ?I recall running into him and his buddy Rat Shooter at a gun show lunch room once waiting for my burger. ?We talked of a mutual love of things that go bang. ?Anyway ?Welcome to the wacky world of Dalton Lathes. ?We are a strange bunch indeed :)
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Yes Laddie there is no place to display them any longer and I am getting on in age so these machines need to go to a good home.? Sold all four shapers so far the SB Drill Press as well as one of the Atlas lathes and the Atlas horizontal mill. Still have over 30 machines that need to find a new home.? Gad can’t figure how I collected and restored so many.? The count is actually over sixty machines since 1998. Last summer I finished up a 9 by 42 inch South Bend for a good friend back in Michigan and he and his wife came out in July to pick it up.? So far I have restored or assembled from restored parts six SB lathes I gave to friends.? ? Probably the best Dalton I have for a home shop lathe is the Lot 6 serial number 7014 The next to the newest Dalton we know of as it was sold in midsummer of 1929 in Seattle Washington.? That lathe has wonderful upgrades for the dial rings and for a long time we thought that it was something the factory was starting to do as we all know Dalton dial rings suck.? Then a few years ago a Lot 6 showed up with a newer serial number than mine and it still had the original little dial rings on it.? So that told us that the ones on my lathe were shop made but you would never have known it by looking at them or using them The lathe is the best equipped lathe I have as well as being mounted on a custom stand and custom chip tray. It also has an Australian Hercuse vertical countershaft that is bolted to the Tee slot on the back of the lathe bed.? Fit perfectly just like it was meant to be there. ?I used this lathe for a couple of years in my little shop I have at the Oregon coast and I built two? model stationary steam engines with it. It’s really accurate but by modern standards a bit slow.? With drip feed oilers for the head stock I spin the lathe a bit over 1000 rpm. ?The lathe has a modern quick change tool post and a bunch of holders that have really nice insert tooling in them. ?Also this lathe has a really neat shop made cam lock setup for the tail stock so no wrench is needed to lock it down. This lathe was never displayed as it was not original.? All the lathes or shapers I displayed were all factory correct as they would have been when new.? This is some pictures of that lathe in case anyone wants to make a trip to Oregon to pick it upJ? Dennis.? ? ? Your selling your restored lathes? This is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at my company.? Company sold antique machines on display now for sale.? Dennis ? ? This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only it has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.? In the picture you can see the cross slide extension.? Dennis ? ? By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post?? That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.? Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled crooked or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be cast iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.?
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Well? least one of is strange-----------BartJ
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Laddie I have visited the Wonderland of Dennis Turk; seen
his shop and his lathes and machines. ?Had some wonderful conversations
with the “Master of Dalton”. ?Last visit, if only I had a flat bed trailer
with me I would have gone home with a wonderful prize. ?Dennis is a wealth
of knowledge and just a fun guy to chat with. ?I recall running into him and
his buddy Rat Shooter at a gun show lunch room once waiting for my burger.
?We talked of a mutual love of things that go bang. ?Anyway
?Welcome to the wacky world of Dalton Lathes. ?We are a strange bunch
indeed :)
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Yes Laddie there is no place to display them any longer and I am
getting on in age so these machines need to go to a good home.? Sold all
four shapers so far the SB Drill Press as well as one of the Atlas lathes and
the Atlas horizontal mill. Still have over 30 machines that need to find a new
home.? Gad can’t figure how I collected and restored so many.? The
count is actually over sixty machines since 1998. Last summer I finished up a 9
by 42 inch South Bend for a good friend back in Michigan and he and his wife
came out in July to pick it up.? So far I have restored or assembled from
restored parts six SB lathes I gave to friends.?
Probably the best Dalton I have for a home shop lathe is the Lot
6 serial number 7014 The next to the newest Dalton we know of as it was sold in
midsummer of 1929 in Seattle Washington.? That lathe has wonderful
upgrades for the dial rings and for a long time we thought that it was
something the factory was starting to do as we all know Dalton dial rings
suck.? Then a few years ago a Lot 6 showed up with a newer serial number
than mine and it still had the original little dial rings on it.? So that
told us that the ones on my lathe were shop made but you would never have known
it by looking at them or using them The lathe is the best equipped lathe I have
as well as being mounted on a custom stand and custom chip tray. It also has an
Australian Hercuse vertical countershaft that is bolted to the Tee slot on the
back of the lathe bed.? Fit perfectly just like it was meant to be there.
?I used this lathe for a couple of years in my little shop I have at the
Oregon coast and I built two? model stationary steam engines with it. It’s
really accurate but by modern standards a bit slow.? With drip feed oilers
for the head stock I spin the lathe a bit over 1000 rpm. ?The lathe has a
modern quick change tool post and a bunch of holders that have really nice
insert tooling in them. ?Also this lathe has a really neat shop made cam
lock setup for the tail stock so no wrench is needed to lock it down. This
lathe was never displayed as it was not original.? All the lathes or
shapers I displayed were all factory correct as they would have been when
new.? This is some pictures of that lathe in case anyone wants to make a
trip to Oregon to pick it upJ? Dennis.?
Your selling your restored lathes?
This is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at my
company.? Company sold antique machines on display now for sale.?
Dennis
This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only
it has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.? In the
picture you can see the cross slide extension.? Dennis
By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post??
That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like
I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from
my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.?
Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell
over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned
ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits
supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked
well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it
fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves
but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the
crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly
intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper
cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it
will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft
also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although
it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled
crooked or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be
cast iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it
might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.?
<Copy of Pictures to send to Tony 022.jpg>
<Lot 6 with Hercuse countershaft.jpg><Things are
looking good.jpg><cam lock 4.jpeg><cam lock 3.jpg><Florence
Dalton.jpg>
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Well? least one of is strange-----------BartJ ? ? ? Laddie I have visited the Wonderland of Dennis Turk; seen his shop and his lathes and machines. ?Had some wonderful conversations with the “Master of Dalton”. ?Last visit, if only I had a flat bed trailer with me I would have gone home with a wonderful prize. ?Dennis is a wealth of knowledge and just a fun guy to chat with. ?I recall running into him and his buddy Rat Shooter at a gun show lunch room once waiting for my burger. ?We talked of a mutual love of things that go bang. ?Anyway ?Welcome to the wacky world of Dalton Lathes. ?We are a strange bunch indeed :) -Bart ? Yes Laddie there is no place to display them any longer and I am getting on in age so these machines need to go to a good home.? Sold all four shapers so far the SB Drill Press as well as one of the Atlas lathes and the Atlas horizontal mill. Still have over 30 machines that need to find a new home.? Gad can’t figure how I collected and restored so many.? The count is actually over sixty machines since 1998. Last summer I finished up a 9 by 42 inch South Bend for a good friend back in Michigan and he and his wife came out in July to pick it up.? So far I have restored or assembled from restored parts six SB lathes I gave to friends.? Probably the best Dalton I have for a home shop lathe is the Lot 6 serial number 7014 The next to the newest Dalton we know of as it was sold in midsummer of 1929 in Seattle Washington.? That lathe has wonderful upgrades for the dial rings and for a long time we thought that it was something the factory was starting to do as we all know Dalton dial rings suck.? Then a few years ago a Lot 6 showed up with a newer serial number than mine and it still had the original little dial rings on it.? So that told us that the ones on my lathe were shop made but you would never have known it by looking at them or using them The lathe is the best equipped lathe I have as well as being mounted on a custom stand and custom chip tray. It also has an Australian Hercuse vertical countershaft that is bolted to the Tee slot on the back of the lathe bed.? Fit perfectly just like it was meant to be there. ?I used this lathe for a couple of years in my little shop I have at the Oregon coast and I built two? model stationary steam engines with it. It’s really accurate but by modern standards a bit slow.? With drip feed oilers for the head stock I spin the lathe a bit over 1000 rpm. ?The lathe has a modern quick change tool post and a bunch of holders that have really nice insert tooling in them. ?Also this lathe has a really neat shop made cam lock setup for the tail stock so no wrench is needed to lock it down. This lathe was never displayed as it was not original.? All the lathes or shapers I displayed were all factory correct as they would have been when new.? This is some pictures of that lathe in case anyone wants to make a trip to Oregon to pick it upJ? Dennis.? Your selling your restored lathes? This is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at my company.? Company sold antique machines on display now for sale.? Dennis This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only it has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.? In the picture you can see the cross slide extension.? Dennis By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post?? That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.? Kinda looks from my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.? Were the originals cast iron?? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell over?? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.? It's darned ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.? It appears some bits supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.? I suppose it worked well enough.? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.? Everything moves but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the crud.? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.?
I took a closer look at the side covers.? I think the hinged one is mostly intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper cover.? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it will come out OK.? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although it's missing a couple of chunks.? But I don't think it was reassembled crooked or anything as I first thought.? ?I assume those would be cast iron?? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.?
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Dennis:
I sent you an email privately some time ago and I know you have
been having trouble getting those, so I am trying here.
I believe you indicated to me that you had a Dalton 9 apron
assembly, and perhaps some other parts, and I am interested in
buying it. Assuming you still have it and I correctly remember
your message about it. Let me know if we can work something out.
Thanks,
Joe
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Yes
Laddie there is no place to display them any longer and I am
getting on in age so these machines need to go to a good
home.??? Sold all
four shapers so far the SB Drill Press as well as one of the
Atlas lathes and
the Atlas horizontal mill. Still have over 30 machines that
need to find a new
home.??? Gad can???t figure how I collected and restored so
many.???
The count is actually over sixty machines since 1998. Last
summer I finished up
a 9 by 42 inch South Bend for a good friend back in Michigan
and he and his
wife came out in July to pick it up.??? So far I have restored
or assembled
from restored parts six SB lathes I gave to friends.
???
Probably
the best Dalton I have for a home shop lathe is the Lot
6 serial number 7014 The next to the newest Dalton we know
of as it was sold in
midsummer of 1929 in Seattle Washington.??? That lathe has
wonderful
upgrades for the dial rings and for a long time we thought
that it was something
the factory was starting to do as we all know Dalton dial
rings suck.???
Then a few years ago a Lot 6 showed up with a newer serial
number than mine and
it still had the original little dial rings on it.??? So that
told us that
the ones on my lathe were shop made but you would never have
known it by
looking at them or using them The lathe is the best equipped
lathe I have as
well as being mounted on a custom stand and custom chip
tray. It also has an Australian
Hercuse vertical countershaft that is bolted to the Tee slot
on the back of the
lathe bed.??? Fit perfectly just like it was meant to be
there. ???I used
this lathe for a couple of years in my little shop I have at
the Oregon coast
and I built two??? model stationary steam engines with it.
It???s really
accurate but by modern standards a bit slow.??? With drip feed
oilers for
the head stock I spin the lathe a bit over 1000 rpm. ???The
lathe has a
modern quick change tool post and a bunch of holders that
have really nice
insert tooling in them. ???Also this lathe has a really neat
shop made cam
lock setup for the tail stock so no wrench is needed to lock
it down. This
lathe was never displayed as it was not original.??? All the
lathes or
shapers I displayed were all factory correct as they would
have been when new.???
This is some pictures of that lathe in case anyone wants to
make a trip to
Oregon to pick it upJ???
Dennis.
???
???
Your selling your restored lathes?
This
is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at
my
company.??? Company sold antique machines on display now
for sale.???
Dennis
???
???
This
is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours
only
it has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long
bed.??? In the
picture you can see the cross slide extension.??? Dennis
???
???
By cross slide extension, do you mean
the tool post????
That is in one of the pics - or is there something else
missing?
You have a good eye.??? I hadn't noticed the feet even
though it seems like
I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.???
Kinda looks from
my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a
closer look.???
Were the originals cast iron???? Maybe they cracked off when
the lathe fell
over???? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice???
looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some
point.??? It's darned
ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.??? It appears
some bits
supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.??? I
suppose it worked
well enough.??? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to
sound like when it
fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.???
Everything moves
but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts
with all the
crud.??? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted
solid.???
I took a closer look at the side covers.??? I think the
hinged one is mostly
intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on
the upper
cover.??? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair
and I think it
will come out OK.??? The small upper cover on the end of the
spindle shaft
also seems like it would look a lot better with the
repairs dressed although
it's missing a couple of chunks.??? But I don't think it was
reassembled
crooked or anything as I first thought.??? ???I assume those
would be
cast iron???? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene
torches so it
might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the
covers.
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yes this group is the ONLY way I can contact Dennis. ?None of my private emails to him ever go thru.. ?Sorry gang to bother you with this. ?I wish someone more tech could head to the home of Dalton lore and set Dennis up seamlessly to a different and ACTUALLY WORKING email provider. ?Would you be open to that Dennis?
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Dennis: I sent you an email privately some time ago and I know you have been having trouble getting those, so I am trying here. I believe you indicated to me that you had a Dalton 9 apron assembly, and perhaps some other parts, and I am interested in buying it. Assuming you still have it and I correctly remember your message about it. Let me know if we can work something out. Thanks, Joe
On 12/20/21 12:07 PM, Dennis Turk wrote:
Yes Laddie there is no place to display them any longer and I am getting on in age so these machines need to go to a good home.??? Sold all four shapers so far the SB Drill Press as well as one of the Atlas lathes and the Atlas horizontal mill. Still have over 30 machines that need to find a new home.??? Gad can???t figure how I collected and restored so many.??? The count is actually over sixty machines since 1998. Last summer I finished up a 9 by 42 inch South Bend for a good friend back in Michigan and he and his wife came out in July to pick it up.??? So far I have restored or assembled from restored parts six SB lathes I gave to friends.? ??? Probably the best Dalton I have for a home shop lathe is the Lot 6 serial number 7014 The next to the newest Dalton we know of as it was sold in midsummer of 1929 in Seattle Washington.??? That lathe has wonderful upgrades for the dial rings and for a long time we thought that it was something the factory was starting to do as we all know Dalton dial rings suck.??? Then a few years ago a Lot 6 showed up with a newer serial number than mine and it still had the original little dial rings on it.??? So that told us that the ones on my lathe were shop made but you would never have known it by looking at them or using them The lathe is the best equipped lathe I have as well as being mounted on a custom stand and custom chip tray. It also has an Australian Hercuse vertical countershaft that is bolted to the Tee slot on the back of the lathe bed.??? Fit perfectly just like it was meant to be there. ???I used this lathe for a couple of years in my little shop I have at the Oregon coast and I built two??? model stationary steam engines with it. It???s really accurate but by modern standards a bit slow.??? With drip feed oilers for the head stock I spin the lathe a bit over 1000 rpm. ???The lathe has a modern quick change tool post and a bunch of holders that have really nice insert tooling in them. ???Also this lathe has a really neat shop made cam lock setup for the tail stock so no wrench is needed to lock it down. This lathe was never displayed as it was not original.??? All the lathes or shapers I displayed were all factory correct as they would have been when new.??? This is some pictures of that lathe in case anyone wants to make a trip to Oregon to pick it upJ??? Dennis.? ??? ??? Your selling your restored lathes? This is what this lathe looks like when it was on display at my company.??? Company sold antique machines on display now for sale.??? Dennis ??? ??? This is a picture of serial number 276 a Lot 5 like yours only it has the overhead drive floor legs and a 36 inch long bed.??? In the picture you can see the cross slide extension.??? Dennis ??? ??? By cross slide extension, do you mean the tool post???? That is in one of the pics - or is there something else missing?
You have a good eye.??? I hadn't noticed the feet even though it seems like I've looked at a couple hundred Dalton pictures lately.??? Kinda looks from my pics like they were welded on - I will have to take a closer look.??? Were the originals cast iron???? Maybe they cracked off when the lathe fell over???? It's a shame - the originals were pretty nice??? looking.
I plan on redoing the countershaft assembly at some point.??? It's darned ugly - made out of highly pitted angle iron.??? It appears some bits supporting the shaft were lopped off the original.??? I suppose it worked well enough.??? Maybe it was also damaged - starting to sound like when it fell over, it also fell down a flight of stairs.
The spindle doesn't have any play in it that I can feel.??? Everything moves but I'm reluctant to do any serious moving of the parts with all the crud.??? I'm fortunate that nothing appears to be rusted solid.???
I took a closer look at the side covers.??? I think the hinged one is mostly intact and just needs alignment to mate up to the latch on the upper cover.??? A little careful filing of the braze/weld repair and I think it will come out OK.??? The small upper cover on the end of the spindle shaft also seems like it would look a lot better with the repairs dressed although it's missing a couple of chunks.??? But I don't think it was reassembled crooked or anything as I first thought.??? ???I assume those would be cast iron???? After Dad passed, I inherited his acetylene torches so it might be time to polish up my brazing skills on the covers.?
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