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Hello Group,
It is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a photo or two to Dennis in the past, but I cannot retrieve that correspondence.? Please I identify the lot number for me.? There are no numbers on the end of the bed.? Also, are there any thread dials or at least gears remaining to make one. It is a 12 tpi lead screw.
Many Thanks, John Molburg Valparaiso,? IN
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Good Morning John
?
OK you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left
is gears and drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello Group,
It is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a
photo or two to Dennis in the past, but I cannot retrieve that
correspondence.? Please I identify the lot number for me.? There are
no numbers on the end of the bed.? Also, are there any thread dials or at least
gears remaining to make one. It is a 12 tpi lead screw.
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Thanks Dennis.? If you send me a price and address,? I will get an order off to you.? Just to keep clutter down on the group exchange, you can send that to jcmolburg@....?
Much appreciated.? John
Good Morning John
?
OK you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left
is gears and drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello Group,
It is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a
photo or two to Dennis in the past, but I cannot retrieve that
correspondence.? Please I identify the lot number for me.? There are
no numbers on the end of the bed.? Also, are there any thread dials or at least
gears remaining to make one. It is a 12 tpi lead screw.
|
By-the-way, given that the lead screw has a keyway, I assume that it has power longitudinal feed driven by the keyway rather than the half nut.? How is that engaged as all the apron has is the half nut lever and a carriage lock knob.?
Good Morning John
?
OK you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left
is gears and drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello Group,
It is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a
photo or two to Dennis in the past, but I cannot retrieve that
correspondence.? Please I identify the lot number for me.? There are
no numbers on the end of the bed.? Also, are there any thread dials or at least
gears remaining to make one. It is a 12 tpi lead screw.
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John the knob between the hand wheel on the left and the half
nut lever on the right is your power feed control.? You tighten the knob and it
will engage the cone clutch on the worm gear drive on the back side of the
apron. Here is a picture of the back side of your apron John.? This shows the
worm that is driven by the keyway in the lead screw that drives the worm gear
that the cone clutch is in.? You can’t see it but behind the large worm gear is
another gear that engages the saddle longitudinal feed. Dennis
?
?
By-the-way, given that the lead screw has a keyway, I assume
that it has power longitudinal feed driven by the keyway rather than the half
nut.? How is that engaged as all the apron has is the half nut lever and a
carriage lock knob.?
?
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 10:38 AM Dennis Turk < dennis.turk2@frontiercom> wrote:
Good
Morning John
?
OK
you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left is gears and
drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello
Group,
It
is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a photo or two to Dennis
in the past, but I cannot retrieve that correspondence.? Please I identify
the lot number for me.? There are no numbers on the end of the bed.?
Also, are there any thread dials or at least gears remaining to make one. It is
a 12 tpi lead screw.
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Aha! That works.? It does also serve as a carriage lock when the gear train is in neutral.? ?I don't think this machine has seen much use.? I bought it some years ago from a fellow who now occupied what was his great uncle's house. The great uncle was a machinist and his Gerstner chest and other items came with the lathe, which was clamped to a crude bench. Obviously it was his home shop and nothing in the collection suggested any use after about 1950.
John the knob between the hand wheel on the left and the half
nut lever on the right is your power feed control.? You tighten the knob and it
will engage the cone clutch on the worm gear drive on the back side of the
apron. Here is a picture of the back side of your apron John.? This shows the
worm that is driven by the keyway in the lead screw that drives the worm gear
that the cone clutch is in.? You can’t see it but behind the large worm gear is
another gear that engages the saddle longitudinal feed. Dennis
?
?
By-the-way, given that the lead screw has a keyway, I assume
that it has power longitudinal feed driven by the keyway rather than the half
nut.? How is that engaged as all the apron has is the half nut lever and a
carriage lock knob.?
?
Good
Morning John
?
OK
you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left is gears and
drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello
Group,
It
is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a photo or two to Dennis
in the past, but I cannot retrieve that correspondence.? Please I identify
the lot number for me.? There are no numbers on the end of the bed.?
Also, are there any thread dials or at least gears remaining to make one. It is
a 12 tpi lead screw.
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John the carriage lock is located on the right rear saddle
wing.? It’s the square head bolt.? It’s not very affective unless a?
modification is made to the clamp plate under the rear of the saddle.? If you
want to do this I can show you how.? Dennis
?
?
?
Aha! That works.? It does also serve as a carriage lock
when the gear train is in neutral.? ?I don't think this machine has
seen much use.? I bought it some years ago from a fellow who now occupied
what was his great uncle's house. The great uncle was a machinist and his
Gerstner chest and other items came with the lathe, which was clamped to a
crude bench. Obviously it was his home shop and nothing in the collection
suggested any use after about 1950.
?
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 12:09 PM Dennis Turk < dennisturk2@...> wrote:
John
the knob between the hand wheel on the left and the half nut lever on the right
is your power feed control.? You tighten the knob and it will engage the
cone clutch on the worm gear drive on the back side of the apron. Here is a
picture of the back side of your apron John.? This shows the worm that is
driven by the keyway in the lead screw that drives the worm gear that the cone
clutch is in.? You can’t see it but behind the large worm gear is another
gear that engages the saddle longitudinal feed. Dennis
?
?
By-the-way,
given that the lead screw has a keyway, I assume that it has power longitudinal
feed driven by the keyway rather than the half nut.? How is that engaged
as all the apron has is the half nut lever and a carriage lock knob.?
?
Good
Morning John
?
OK
you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left is gears and
drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello
Group,
It
is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a photo or two to Dennis
in the past, but I cannot retrieve that correspondence.? Please I identify
the lot number for me.? There are no numbers on the end of the bed.?
Also, are there any thread dials or at least gears remaining to make one. It is
a 12 tpi lead screw.
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John I looked at your two pictures again and blew them up so I
could see a lot of detail.? You lathe appears to be in original Japanning
finish and must say in remarkable condition.? It’s obviously not been allowed any
sun light as sun light or rather UV light destroys japanning. ?The only damage
I see is a small corner of the T slot in the cross slide is shipped.? The only
other thing I notice is the oil cups for the spindle bearings have been
changed.? Dalton never used flip top cap oil cups but rather a different brand
that had a cap that lifted off the oil tube and was secured with a wire bail
that hung down into the oil tub.? These were prone to losing their cap so many
were changed to what you have on your lathe.? Fact I have also done the same
thing.? I agree this lathe? has seen little use.? Dennis
?
?
Aha! That works.? It does also serve as a carriage lock
when the gear train is in neutral.? ?I don't think this machine has
seen much use.? I bought it some years ago from a fellow who now occupied
what was his great uncle's house. The great uncle was a machinist and his
Gerstner chest and other items came with the lathe, which was clamped to a
crude bench. Obviously it was his home shop and nothing in the collection
suggested any use after about 1950.
?
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 12:09 PM Dennis Turk < dennisturk2@...> wrote:
John
the knob between the hand wheel on the left and the half nut lever on the right
is your power feed control.? You tighten the knob and it will engage the
cone clutch on the worm gear drive on the back side of the apron. Here is a
picture of the back side of your apron John.? This shows the worm that is
driven by the keyway in the lead screw that drives the worm gear that the cone
clutch is in.? You can’t see it but behind the large worm gear is another
gear that engages the saddle longitudinal feed. Dennis
?
?
By-the-way,
given that the lead screw has a keyway, I assume that it has power longitudinal
feed driven by the keyway rather than the half nut.? How is that engaged
as all the apron has is the half nut lever and a carriage lock knob.?
?
Good
Morning John
?
OK
you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left is gears and
drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello
Group,
It
is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a photo or two to Dennis
in the past, but I cannot retrieve that correspondence.? Please I identify
the lot number for me.? There are no numbers on the end of the bed.? Also,
are there any thread dials or at least gears remaining to make one. It is a 12
tpi lead screw.
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When I got it I had visions of a shiny jet black finish, but decided to leave it original.? As long as it stays a little oily, the unfinished parts won't rust. Yes, the headstock,? tailstock, and bed reveal no wear to my amateur eyes, so I? am ready to give it some work to perform. I do have change gears, so I will fit it with a threading dial.? I saw someone is selling 3d printed thread dials for some Dalton, but they fit a 3/4 10 lead screw.
By the way, I found the carriage lock as you pointed it out.? Mine seems to hold snuggly, but I did not test it under load.?
Thanks for your help.? John
John I looked at your two pictures again and blew them up so I
could see a lot of detail.? You lathe appears to be in original Japanning
finish and must say in remarkable condition.? It’s obviously not been allowed any
sun light as sun light or rather UV light destroys japanning.? The only damage
I see is a small corner of the T slot in the cross slide is shipped.? The only
other thing I notice is the oil cups for the spindle bearings have been
changed.? Dalton never used flip top cap oil cups but rather a different brand
that had a cap that lifted off the oil tube and was secured with a wire bail
that hung down into the oil tub.? These were prone to losing their cap so many
were changed to what you have on your lathe.? Fact I have also done the same
thing.? I agree this lathe? has seen little use.? Dennis
?
?
Aha! That works.? It does also serve as a carriage lock
when the gear train is in neutral.? ?I don't think this machine has
seen much use.? I bought it some years ago from a fellow who now occupied
what was his great uncle's house. The great uncle was a machinist and his
Gerstner chest and other items came with the lathe, which was clamped to a
crude bench. Obviously it was his home shop and nothing in the collection
suggested any use after about 1950.
?
John
the knob between the hand wheel on the left and the half nut lever on the right
is your power feed control.? You tighten the knob and it will engage the
cone clutch on the worm gear drive on the back side of the apron. Here is a
picture of the back side of your apron John.? This shows the worm that is
driven by the keyway in the lead screw that drives the worm gear that the cone
clutch is in.? You can’t see it but behind the large worm gear is another
gear that engages the saddle longitudinal feed. Dennis
?
?
By-the-way,
given that the lead screw has a keyway, I assume that it has power longitudinal
feed driven by the keyway rather than the half nut.? How is that engaged
as all the apron has is the half nut lever and a carriage lock knob.?
?
Good
Morning John
?
OK
you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left is gears and
drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello
Group,
It
is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a photo or two to Dennis
in the past, but I cannot retrieve that correspondence.? Please I identify
the lot number for me.? There are no numbers on the end of the bed.? Also,
are there any thread dials or at least gears remaining to make one. It is a 12
tpi lead screw.
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I spoke with Dennis today about getting his drawings for the thread dials, if I make them I'll probably make 30. I'm thinking of having them powder coated black.
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John as your lathe has a 12 pitch threading lead screw it
requires a 48 tooth gear to work correctly. It will work with other tooth
numbers but only at one position on the rotation of the dial face and then only
with a 24 or 32 tooth.? If you don’t have a copy go on eBay and see if you can
find a copy of South Bends How to Run a Lathe.? It will have a ton of info you
can use. Dennis
?
?
When I got it I had visions of a shiny jet black finish, but
decided to leave it original.? As long as it stays a little oily, the
unfinished parts won't rust. Yes, the headstock,? tailstock, and bed
reveal no wear to my amateur eyes, so I? am ready to give it some work to
perform. I do have change gears, so I will fit it with a threading dial.?
I saw someone is selling 3d printed thread dials for some Dalton, but they fit
a 3/4 10 lead screw.
By the way, I found the carriage lock as you pointed it
out.? Mine seems to hold snuggly, but I did not test it under load.?
?
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 1:44 PM Dennis Turk < dennis.turk2@...>
wrote:
John
I looked at your two pictures again and blew them up so I could see a lot of
detail.? You lathe appears to be in original Japanning finish and must say
in remarkable condition.? It’s obviously not been allowed any sun light as
sun light or rather UV light destroys japanning.? The only damage I see is
a small corner of the T slot in the cross slide is shipped.? The only
other thing I notice is the oil cups for the spindle bearings have been
changed.? Dalton never used flip top cap oil cups but rather a different
brand that had a cap that lifted off the oil tube and was secured with a wire
bail that hung down into the oil tub.? These were prone to losing their
cap so many were changed to what you have on your lathe.? Fact I have also
done the same thing.? I agree this lathe? has seen little use.?
Dennis
?
?
Aha!
That works.? It does also serve as a carriage lock when the gear train is
in neutral.? ?I don't think this machine has seen much use.? I
bought it some years ago from a fellow who now occupied what was his great
uncle's house. The great uncle was a machinist and his Gerstner chest and other
items came with the lathe, which was clamped to a crude bench. Obviously it was
his home shop and nothing in the collection suggested any use after about 1950.
?
John the
knob between the hand wheel on the left and the half nut lever on the right is
your power feed control.? You tighten the knob and it will engage the cone
clutch on the worm gear drive on the back side of the apron. Here is a picture
of the back side of your apron John.? This shows the worm that is driven
by the keyway in the lead screw that drives the worm gear that the cone clutch
is in.? You can’t see it but behind the large worm gear is another gear
that engages the saddle longitudinal feed. Dennis
?
?
By-the-way,
given that the lead screw has a keyway, I assume that it has power longitudinal
feed driven by the keyway rather than the half nut.? How is that engaged
as all the apron has is the half nut lever and a carriage lock knob.?
?
Good
Morning John
?
OK
you have a Lot 5 machine.? As to thread dials all I have left is gears and
drawings.? Nice looking old girl John.
Dennis
?
?
Hello
Group,
It
is time to get back to this Dalton.? I? sent a photo or two to Dennis
in the past, but I cannot retrieve that correspondence.? Please I identify
the lot number for me.? There are no numbers on the end of the bed.?
Also, are there any thread dials or at least gears remaining to make one. It is
a 12 tpi lead screw.
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Hi Glen.? I tried printing them? out but somehow my printer does
not like the file or I need a fresh black cartridge.? I think I have a full C
size set of drawings down at Florence will check the next time I’m? down there.
?If my damn email would work I could just send the files to you. ?Dennis
?
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I spoke with Dennis today about getting his drawings for the
thread dials, if I make them I'll probably make 30. I'm thinking of having them
powder coated black.
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Glen see if you can open these files.? Dennis
?
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I spoke with Dennis today about getting his drawings for the
thread dials, if I make them I'll probably make 30. I'm thinking of having them
powder coated black.
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I see I can open them and I can enlarge them so you guys should
be able to also.? Not sure you will be able to print the files or not.? Dennis
?
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Glen see if you can open these files.? Dennis
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Linscheid
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 3:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DaltonLathes] Getting back to my Dalton
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I spoke with Dennis today about getting his drawings for the
thread dials, if I make them I'll probably make 30. I'm thinking of having them
powder coated black.
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I also have a box full of spindle nose thread protectors if
anyone wants on.? Usually ask $25 and shipping but if anyone wants on you can
have one for $20.? Should ship in a small flat rate box that’s less than 10
bucks. The first picture is of an original and the second black oxide one is
the ones I made.
?
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Glen see if you can open these files.? Dennis
?
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I spoke with Dennis today about getting his drawings for the
thread dials, if I make them I'll probably make 30. I'm thinking of having them
powder coated black.
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This is a picture of the nose protector on a lathe but before I
had them black oxide coated. ?John also note the oil cup for the spindle
bearing.? This is what yours would lave originally looked like.? The little cap
with the flutes around the edge lifts off and there is a wire attached to the
inside of the cap that hangs down into the fill tube that has a circle shape to
it so it can’t come out but unfortunately they did. Dennis
?
?
I also have a box full of spindle nose thread protectors if
anyone wants on.? Usually ask $25 and shipping but if anyone wants on you
can have one for $20.? Should ship in a small flat rate box that’s less
than 10 bucks. The first picture is of an original and the second black oxide
one is the ones I made.
?
?
Glen see if you can open these files.? Dennis
?
?
I spoke with Dennis today about getting his drawings for the
thread dials, if I make them I'll probably make 30. I'm thinking of having them
powder coated black.
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Dennis, is it OK if I put these drawings in our files section?
Dan
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No numbers on the very end of the bed?
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That would be perfect.?
John Molburg
I spoke with Dennis today about getting his drawings for the thread dials, if I make them I'll probably make 30. I'm thinking of having them powder coated black.
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I suspect they may have been intentionally removed. Perhaps the machine was "surplus " at the shop where the previous owner worked.
By the way. I made a first cut a few minutes ago. Nice and quiet.? I do need to properly grind some cutters.? ?The attached photo is of the first cut using a bit I found lying around.
No numbers on the very end of the bed?
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Dennis Turk
Dan Linscheid
