Early Lot 6
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Hello ALL, The lot 6 does seem to be a more robust lathe than the SB 9” I have, from the same mid 1920’s time frame. |
开云体育On Nov 27, 2023, at 4:52?PM, glenn brooks <brooks.glenn@...> wrote:
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OK first the countershaft.? The counter shaft is from an Atlas built for Sears 12 inch lathe.? It's actually mounted backwards from how it was mounted on the Atlas lathe.? On the Atlas lathe the motor sat behind the countershaft not in front.? This was because the countershaft casting was bolted to the back of the lathe bed.? With serial number 7090 I believe this makes this lathe the last one built that we know of. I have serial number 7014 and there is one more that I believe is 703X something.? For a long time my 7014 was the newest one built.? This makes your lathe built in mid to late 1929 or just before the factory?closed. This model lathe was produced from 1915 till the end of production in 1929.? For the most part it was produced unchanged in all these years.? ?I have serial number 127 and it is identical to my serial number 7014. The only difference between my two Lot 6 lathes is the shop made dial rings that are on my late model lathe.? Your lathe looks to be in original japanning finish and for its age very nice.? I also see a shop made replacement handle for the back gear also nicely made.? Someone put a lot of thought into how the countershaft setup works.? Also a nice setup as I used an Australian?Hercuse?countershaft on number 7014. The only other alteration?from the normal setup is the oil flip top oil cups. Picture shows what was originally installed at the factory.? I have drip feed oilers on my 7014 as its setup to run up to 1000 rpm whereas the factory setup the lathe would have only turned 680 rpm.? I have also included pictures of my two Lot 6 lathes as they look today.? Serial number 7014 was used for a few years at my Oregon coast home shop where I built several model steam engines using this lathe. Serial number 127 has only been used for display. My serial number 7014 was originally sold from a Seattle Washington machine dealer and 127 was sold directly from the factory as it was removed from a Carriage?house a few miles from the factory on Long Island NY.? The estate where 127 was removed from was less than a mile from Hubert Dalton's estate at the time so we have always figured the two old fellows knew each other. I have also restored a number of the 1920's built? SB lathes, you are correct there are several details that Dalton did better than SB did.? For one the spindle is hardened and is also larger with larger bearings of bronze.? Also the bed was made from a much better grade of cast iron and as such Dalton lathes have survived with little bed wear.? One place where SB did it better was in the apron gearbox as the tool room version had power cross feed and only the Dalton 9 had power cross feed. Also SB used the Flather patent quick change gearbox as Dalton never made the move to a quick change system.? There is one thing to remember, that Dalton lathes cost much more than SB lathes comparable equipped. If you have more questions by all means ask them and we as a group will try and answer them.? Dennis On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:47?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:
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开云体育Thanks Dennis,Your assessment is, as always, invaluable. ?My guess is the headstock and tailstock have been refinished with modern enamel paint, as the PO sent me a pic or two of condition ?when he received the lathe a few years ago. ?It was disassembled, and the pieces showed some rusting and old age patina. Now they look new, and carefully restored. Good to know what the countershaft is… I will likely buy an OXA tool post for it, once my wonky back allows me to work on the machine. ? I did find new drip oilers for the headstock in a box of spare parts, so may switch out the existing oil cups when I have time to work on it. Thanks again! Glenn B. On Nov 28, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:
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