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Dalton Lot 4 no. 2071 compound slide question

 

Hello,
Last summer I was given a Dalton lot 4 lathe (no. 2071) with a 36" bed by a friend who had owned it for a number of years. It was operational and fully functional, with a couple minor issues that others here have run into. This is my first lathe, of any kind. I have zero experience using a lathe. I'm not a machinist. I am, however, a guy who needed a lathe in order to manufacture my own hardware for the custom woodworking saws I make. Please excuse any mistakes I make in terminology or description. I have read enough to make me generally familiar with this type of lathe and I have now used it enough to know how much I don't know.?
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At the beginning of the year i decided to make a new base, replace the drive system (not original), completely breakdown, restore, and finally reassemble the lathe. It was quite a learning experience and I am glad I did it. This group was a huge help in answering questions I had and problems I ran into. Mostly. While the following has nothing to do with the lathe being functional or not, it does make repeatability an issue. At least for me. The compound slide appears to have the degrees marked on the wrong side of the base. With the handle on the right and the t- slot for the tool post on the left, the degree markings are on the far side and cannot be read. Based on the pictures I've been able to look at here, this does not seem to be correct and makes little sense to me. Has anyone run into this before? Unfortunately I cannot tell whether the captured bronze nut is simply mounted on the wrong side or whether the degree marks were put on the wrong side because I cannot find a picture showing the pieces in a way that can be used to verify which problem it is. Ultimately it does not matter but I am a curious sort of fellow so..... I figured I'd ask here. I've included some pictures of the lathe as it looks now, some great original scraping marks, and finally three pics of the issue I mentioned.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated and if further pics are needed I will be happy to provide them. Thank you.?
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Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works
 

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That is Beautiful guy. ?I too got a lot 4 as my first lathe. Mine was missing many parts (still is) I also had to build a base (used a old Dewalt saw stand), rebuilt the motor mount and pulley system nd put a different motor on it. ?Since then I have proven the proposition there is no such thing as just “one lathe” ( I own 4). The Dalton world teaches a bunch of new things. ?


On Feb 12, 2025, at 10:32 AM, Charlie Earnest via <springgreensaws@...> wrote:

Hello,
Last summer I was given a Dalton lot 4 lathe (no. 2071) with a 36" bed by a friend who had owned it for a number of years. It was operational and fully functional, with a couple minor issues that others here have run into. This is my first lathe, of any kind. I have zero experience using a lathe. I'm not a machinist. I am, however, a guy who needed a lathe in order to manufacture my own hardware for the custom woodworking saws I make. Please excuse any mistakes I make in terminology or description. I have read enough to make me generally familiar with this type of lathe and I have now used it enough to know how much I don't know.?
?
At the beginning of the year i decided to make a new base, replace the drive system (not original), completely breakdown, restore, and finally reassemble the lathe. It was quite a learning experience and I am glad I did it. This group was a huge help in answering questions I had and problems I ran into. Mostly. While the following has nothing to do with the lathe being functional or not, it does make repeatability an issue. At least for me. The compound slide appears to have the degrees marked on the wrong side of the base. With the handle on the right and the t- slot for the tool post on the left, the degree markings are on the far side and cannot be read. Based on the pictures I've been able to look at here, this does not seem to be correct and makes little sense to me. Has anyone run into this before? Unfortunately I cannot tell whether the captured bronze nut is simply mounted on the wrong side or whether the degree marks were put on the wrong side because I cannot find a picture showing the pieces in a way that can be used to verify which problem it is. Ultimately it does not matter but I am a curious sort of fellow so..... I figured I'd ask here. I've included some pictures of the lathe as it looks now, some great original scraping marks, and finally three pics of the issue I mentioned.
?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and if further pics are needed I will be happy to provide them. Thank you.?
?
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Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works
 

This picture shows the normal setup of the compound slide.? The lead screw?nut is at the right side of the lower casting.
As to the?scraping this is not what Dalton did rather this?lathe bed has been oil spotted something Dalton did not do.?
Dennis

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:32?AM Charlie Earnest via <springgreensaws=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
Last summer I was given a Dalton lot 4 lathe (no. 2071) with a 36" bed by a friend who had owned it for a number of years. It was operational and fully functional, with a couple minor issues that others here have run into. This is my first lathe, of any kind. I have zero experience using a lathe. I'm not a machinist. I am, however, a guy who needed a lathe in order to manufacture my own hardware for the custom woodworking saws I make. Please excuse any mistakes I make in terminology or description. I have read enough to make me generally familiar with this type of lathe and I have now used it enough to know how much I don't know.?
?
At the beginning of the year i decided to make a new base, replace the drive system (not original), completely breakdown, restore, and finally reassemble the lathe. It was quite a learning experience and I am glad I did it. This group was a huge help in answering questions I had and problems I ran into. Mostly. While the following has nothing to do with the lathe being functional or not, it does make repeatability an issue. At least for me. The compound slide appears to have the degrees marked on the wrong side of the base. With the handle on the right and the t- slot for the tool post on the left, the degree markings are on the far side and cannot be read. Based on the pictures I've been able to look at here, this does not seem to be correct and makes little sense to me. Has anyone run into this before? Unfortunately I cannot tell whether the captured bronze nut is simply mounted on the wrong side or whether the degree marks were put on the wrong side because I cannot find a picture showing the pieces in a way that can be used to verify which problem it is. Ultimately it does not matter but I am a curious sort of fellow so..... I figured I'd ask here. I've included some pictures of the lathe as it looks now, some great original scraping marks, and finally three pics of the issue I mentioned.
?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and if further pics are needed I will be happy to provide them. Thank you.?
?
--
Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works

# 2 Peddle dalton cross slide scraping..JPG

 

Dennis, thank you for clarifying. I see the difference between the scraped surface on the cross slide in your pic and the flaking on my lathe. Is it normal for someone to flake the backside of the lathe bed (and under the headstock) for oil retention? ?I assumed the marks were original since they were underneath all of the paint. Perhaps the backside of the lathe bed, on either side of the big t-slot, was not painted or japanned originally? I obviously have no idea. As someone who researches and collects 150-200 year old saws, I can appreciate the amount of time and work that goes into learning all you can about a tool that has little information remaining from when it was manufactured.?
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When I set my compound slide up like that the numbers are not visible. Is it possible the compound or pieces from it are from another Lot? I can think of no reason why the degree/ numbers would've been added to the wrong side of the base.
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Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works
 

It will not be as convenient?but you can add a witness mark on the other side so you can use the degree marks as they are on your lathe.? Knowing how the degree graduations and numbers?were roll stamped onto the bottom slide It would?have been really easy for the operator to stamp the wrong side of the casting.? In all the old lathes I have restored I find different mfg would put the graduations in different places some on bottom compound casting like a Dalton but others were roll stamped on the cross slide front back and on either side.? Was kind of a crapshoot how the different companies did this. Dennis


On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 3:29?PM Charlie Earnest via <springgreensaws=[email protected]> wrote:
Dennis, thank you for clarifying. I see the difference between the scraped surface on the cross slide in your pic and the flaking on my lathe. Is it normal for someone to flake the backside of the lathe bed (and under the headstock) for oil retention?? I assumed the marks were original since they were underneath all of the paint. Perhaps the backside of the lathe bed, on either side of the big t-slot, was not painted or japanned originally? I obviously have no idea. As someone who researches and collects 150-200 year old saws, I can appreciate the amount of time and work that goes into learning all you can about a tool that has little information remaining from when it was manufactured.?
?
When I set my compound slide up like that the numbers are not visible. Is it possible the compound or pieces from it are from another Lot? I can think of no reason why the degree/ numbers would've been added to the wrong side of the base.
--
Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works

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