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I bought my Dalton lathe years ago, but was interested to know how old it is. It is stamped: Lot 2- #22. I bought back in the 70's in pieces. I made some parts and got it running.


 

Lot 2?#22 makes your lathe I think the earliest one we have ever seen.? There is a Lot 2 #25 and I have lot 2 #36.Yours is very complete?and looks to be in nice condition. As near as we can tell the Lot 2 was only in production for? a year or less before changes were made and the Lot 3 was introduced.? Lot 3 also did not last long as in late 1913 the Lot 4 came out and stayed in production with few changes till the end of the company in 1929.
Dennis


On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 5:33?AM hunter via <gwood106=[email protected]> wrote:
I bought my Dalton lathe years ago, but was interested to know how old it is. It is stamped: Lot 2- #22. I bought back in the 70's in pieces. I made some parts and got it running.


 

Thanks for the info, Dennis. Do you think mine was produced in early 1913? Back in the 70's, I made a set of bearing blocks for the driven pulley shaft, and mounted an electric motor. I made a set spindle bushings out of bearing bronze, as the babbit ones were shimmed. I also made a bearing block to support the feed shaft, because it was missing, a couple gears, and the guard over them. It works nice on small parts and light cuts.
? ? Jerry


From: "Dennis Turk" <dennisturk448@...>
To: "DaltonLathes" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2024 11:45:02 AM
Subject: Re: [DaltonLathes] Info

Lot 2?#22 makes your lathe I think the earliest one we have ever seen.? There is a Lot 2 #25 and I have lot 2 #36.Yours is very complete?and looks to be in nice condition. As near as we can tell the Lot 2 was only in production for? a year or less before changes were made and the Lot 3 was introduced.? Lot 3 also did not last long as in late 1913 the Lot 4 came out and stayed in production with few changes till the end of the company in 1929.
Dennis


On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 5:33?AM hunter via <gwood106=[email protected]> wrote:
I bought my Dalton lathe years ago, but was interested to know how old it is. It is stamped: Lot 2- #22. I bought back in the 70's in pieces. I made some parts and got it running.



 

This message is for Dennis I have a lot 4 with serial number 2688 I have owned this lathe for years and use every week still works as well as anything new of equal size and capability I am just curious how long it has been working.
Thanks,
Phillip M


 

Philip does your lathe have two piece back gear guards or are they one piece.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 11:50?AM philsfatboy via <philsfatboy=[email protected]> wrote:
This message is for Dennis I have a lot 4 with serial number 2688 I have owned this lathe for years and use every week still works as well as anything new of equal size and capability I am just curious how long it has been working.
Thanks,
Phillip M


 

As to counter shaft drives.? Dalton built four different versions of the overhead drive.? I? have examples of three of them.? The only other drive they built was the?countershaft driver?that was intended to be mounted on the ceiling?or on the wall behind the lathe.? These always have the bearing block standards we see on the lateh pictured in this post. I will see what?all I have for photos and post up pictures of the drives Dalton used.
Dennis

On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 12:20?PM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:
Philip does your lathe have two piece back gear guards or are they one piece.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 11:50?AM philsfatboy via <philsfatboy=[email protected]> wrote:
This message is for Dennis I have a lot 4 with serial number 2688 I have owned this lathe for years and use every week still works as well as anything new of equal size and capability I am just curious how long it has been working.
Thanks,
Phillip M


 

Picture one and two are of a late? model Lot 5 lathe that still uses the silent chain drive?but also has a reversing motor.? This was the next to last version of the?overhead drive built for metal?turning lathes.? Picture three is the first model Dalton built we think in 1915.? This lathe is a Lot 6 serial number 127 built in 1915 or early 16.? It uses a planetary?drive and two clutches for forward and reverse?with a non reversible?motor.? These drives cost almost as much as the lathe did.? Very heavy and things wore quickly.? The fourth picture is of agear reduced drive?built for the TL lathe that was marketed in the lathe 1920's for electrical shop repair work.? The example I have?came from an electric motor repair shop.? The gear reduction was to slow the lathe down for metal working rather than the wood paten work that the TL was none for. There was one more late 20's drive?that?was almost identical to the one I show in the first two pictures.? The only difference?was the?lever you see hanging down was eliminated.? This one I? have the lever is usd to disengage a clutch we think so the spindle could easily be free wheeled.? It did not work very well and was eliminated but the silent chain drive was kept. One note is that these overhead drives were very heavy and the lathes were prone to tipping over.? But not like you think, not forward or backward but rather end to end with the head stock hitting the floor.? I realized this when we almost tipped one over during a move and it really surprised us that it was so easily flipped end to end. Also if an overhead drive was ordered with a bench mount lathe you got a special? bed foot for under the head stock.? These were three times wider than the standard bed foot.? Again to help support the weight of the overhead drive.? I have a set of these bed feet but unfortunately they were broken with a poorly welded repair. Also many of these drives after being tipped over the tall column?casting were broken.? I have one example where the overhead drive was adapted to a behind the lathe drive eliminating the tall casting.? I have two of these tall castings that have been broken and badly repaired. The example I have is on my serial number 36 Lo2 lathe you see in the last picture. Hope you guys find the information of interest.
Dennis

On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 12:29?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:
As to counter shaft drives.? Dalton built four different versions of the overhead drive.? I? have examples of three of them.? The only other drive they built was the?countershaft driver?that was intended to be mounted on the ceiling?or on the wall behind the lathe.? These always have the bearing block standards we see on the lateh pictured in this post. I will see what?all I have for photos and post up pictures of the drives Dalton used.
Dennis

On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 12:20?PM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:
Philip does your lathe have two piece back gear guards or are they one piece.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 11:50?AM philsfatboy via <philsfatboy=[email protected]> wrote:
This message is for Dennis I have a lot 4 with serial number 2688 I have owned this lathe for years and use every week still works as well as anything new of equal size and capability I am just curious how long it has been working.
Thanks,
Phillip M


 

One piece and thanks for the reply?