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I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping someone can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The Saddle appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom feature.?
Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like a 10, or 10.5 inch model???
Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I haven't dug into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed that i have located so far (checked tailstock end).??
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I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the place I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or does it have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate manager, but won't know until tomorrow.??
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On 7/21/24 11:45 AM, rusthunter via groups.io wrote: Good afternoon.
I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping someone can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The Saddle appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom feature.
Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like a 10, or 10.5 inch model?
Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I haven't dug into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed that i have located so far (checked tailstock end).
I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the place I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or does it have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate manager, but won't know until tomorrow.
/g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528 </g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 2:57 PM, Grey Pilgrim <pilgrim23@...> wrote: Pics would help? Welcome to the clan On 7/21/24 11:45 AM, rusthunter via groups.io wrote: > Good afternoon. > I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping someone > can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The Saddle > appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom > feature. > Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like a 10, > or 10.5 inch model? > Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I haven't dug > into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed that i > have located so far (checked tailstock end). > I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the place > I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or does it > have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate manager, > but won't know until tomorrow. > /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528 > < /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528> > Thanks! >
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Hello, the link in the bottom of my post should take you to the album I created in the group. Thanks!
Pics would help? Welcome to the clan
On 7/21/24 11:45 AM, rusthunter via wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping someone
> can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The Saddle
> appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom
> feature.
> Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like a 10,
> or 10.5 inch model?
> Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I haven't dug
> into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed that i
> have located so far (checked tailstock end).
> I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the place
> I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or does it
> have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate manager,
> but won't know until tomorrow.
> /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528
> </g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>
> Thanks!
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SWEET! All I have is a puny lot 4 missing parts on a old table saw frame powered by a backwards mounted South Bend motor mount.
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On 7/21/24 2:02 PM, rusthunter via groups.io wrote: Hello, the link in the bottom of my post should take you to the album I created in the group.
Thanks!
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 2:57?PM Grey Pilgrim via groups.io <> <pilgrim23@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Pics would help? Welcome to the clan
On 7/21/24 11:45 AM, rusthunter via groups.io <> wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping
someone
> can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The
Saddle
> appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom
> feature.
> Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like
a 10,
> or 10.5 inch model?
> Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I
haven't dug
> into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed
that i
> have located so far (checked tailstock end).
> I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the
place
> I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or
does it
> have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate
manager,
> but won't know until tomorrow.
> /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528
</g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>
> </g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528
</g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>>
> Thanks!
>
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Where was the auction at? That's probably the only dalton like that known to exist.?
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 5:05 PM, Grey Pilgrim <pilgrim23@...> wrote: SWEET!? All I have is a puny lot 4 missing parts on a old table saw frame powered by a backwards mounted South Bend motor mount. On 7/21/24 2:02 PM, rusthunter via groups.io wrote: > Hello, the link in the bottom of my post should take you to the album I > created in the group. > Thanks! > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 2:57?PM Grey Pilgrim via groups.io > <> <pilgrim23@... > <mailto: [email protected]>> wrote: > >? ? Pics would help? Welcome to the clan > >? ? On 7/21/24 11:45 AM, rusthunter via groups.io <> wrote: >? ? ? > Good afternoon. >? ? ? > I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping >? ? someone >? ? ? > can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The >? ? Saddle >? ? ? > appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom >? ? ? > feature. >? ? ? > Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like >? ? a 10, >? ? ? > or 10.5 inch model? >? ? ? > Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I >? ? haven't dug >? ? ? > into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed >? ? that i >? ? ? > have located so far (checked tailstock end). >? ? ? > I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the >? ? place >? ? ? > I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or >? ? does it >? ? ? > have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate >? ? manager, >? ? ? > but won't know until tomorrow. >? ? ? > /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>? ? < /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528> >? ? ? > < /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>? ? < /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>> >? ? ? > Thanks! >? ? ? > > > > > > >
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On 7/21/24 2:07 PM, Rick Clayton via groups.io wrote: Where was the auction at? That's probably the only dalton like that known to exist.
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 5:05 PM, Grey Pilgrim
<pilgrim23@...> wrote:
SWEET!? All I have is a puny lot 4 missing parts on a old table saw
frame powered by a backwards mounted South Bend motor mount.
On 7/21/24 2:02 PM, rusthunter via groups.io wrote:
> Hello, the link in the bottom of my post should take you to the
album I
> created in the group.
> Thanks!
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 2:57?PM Grey Pilgrim via groups.io
> < <>> <pilgrim23@...
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>? ? Pics would help? Welcome to the clan
>
>? ? On 7/21/24 11:45 AM, rusthunter via groups.io
< <>> wrote:
>? ? ? > Good afternoon.
>? ? ? > I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping
>? ? someone
>? ? ? > can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up
dry.? The
>? ? Saddle
>? ? ? > appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for
some custom
>? ? ? > feature.
>? ? ? > Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so
maybe like
>? ? a 10,
>? ? ? > or 10.5 inch model?
>? ? ? > Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I
>? ? haven't dug
>? ? ? > into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on
the bed
>? ? that i
>? ? ? > have located so far (checked tailstock end).
>? ? ? > I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks
at the
>? ? place
>? ? ? > I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or
>? ? does it
>? ? ? > have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate
>? ? manager,
>? ? ? > but won't know until tomorrow.
>? ? ? > /g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528
</g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>
>? ? </g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528
</g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>>
>? ? ? > </g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528
</g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>
>? ? </g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528
</g/DaltonLathes/album?id=296528>>>
>? ? ? > Thanks!
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The letter H is an odd designation.? We don't?have any record of a Model H.? There were however two or three prototype?10 1/2 inch swing lathes that have shown up but they have no lot or serial number.? Also on one of them the cast Dalton had been ground off as well as a couple of other things on the castings.? We really need pictures?to see what you have. Dennis
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 11:45?AM rusthunter via <msmcgreeney= [email protected]> wrote: Good afternoon.??
I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping someone can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The Saddle appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom feature.?
Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like a 10, or 10.5 inch model???
Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I haven't dug into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed that i have located so far (checked tailstock end).??
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I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the place I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or does it have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate manager, but won't know until tomorrow.??
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Thanks!
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 6:27 PM, Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote: The letter H is an odd designation.? We don't?have any record of a Model H.? There were however two or three prototype?10 1/2 inch swing lathes that have shown up but they have no lot or serial number.? Also on one of them the cast Dalton had been ground off as well as a couple of other things on the castings.? We really need pictures?to see what you have. Dennis On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 11:45?AM rusthunter via <msmcgreeney= [email protected]> wrote: Good afternoon.??
I recently won this Dalton model "H" at auction.? I am hoping someone can tell me something about it, as so far I've come up dry.? The Saddle appears large, with four additional T Slots probably for some custom feature.?
Looks to be 5.5 inches from the bed to the center, so maybe like a 10, or 10.5 inch model???
Also it has some type of lever operated transmission that I haven't dug into yet.? No patent dates.? No serial or lot numbers on the bed that i have located so far (checked tailstock end).??
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I goofed up amid loading, and left one of the riser blocks at the place I got it from.? do you think a block of wood would suffice, or does it have to be cast Iron?? I am attempting to work with the estate manager, but won't know until tomorrow.??
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Thanks!
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Tag on coutnershaft that was found with the lathe.? Unknown if it is original or not.
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Wow this?is interesting.? First off there is little resemblance of this lathe to the other three prototypes we have seen.? For one the other three have four bolts holding the front bearing cap on wear as this one only has the more typical?two.? There is very little of this lathe that resembles the more common Daltons. What does resemble other Daltons is one the shift lever for the end gears.? The end gears themselves look like the standard Lot 6 and Dalton 9 change gears.? The patent Dalton spring clip retainer for holding the?change gears in place as one of them is still on the lathe and I can see in another position where one would have fit. The four position change gear box is very similar?two one used in the late teens by South Bend lathe but not used on any other Dalton.? The information tags are for sure standard Dalton items and look like ones on other?Dalton lathes.? I see the?shift handle for the back gears is missing but I see the standard Dalton slit bushing that the back gear shaft passes through.? The back gear setup looks to be standard Dalton design.? I am going out on?a limb here?and say this lathe was built before 1925 as it has a NY address on the tag.? After 1925 it would have been Sound Beach. .The Tee slots on the top of the saddle were very common on lathes of this era?especially on lathes of 12 or 13 inch swing or more.? You are correct they were meant to be used in setting up between centers boring? operation to items secured to the saddle. South Bend used a very similar setup to bore headstock?and tailstock castings in their factory. One other thing is the back gear guards.? These are one piece castings and on the Lot 6 and Dalton 9 they are two piece as well as on later made Lot 4 and 5 lathes.? This makes me think this lathe was built very early in Dalton's history.? Maybe even before 1915 as the Lot 6 came out in 1915 and had two piece back gear guards from the beginning?of production. The dial rings on the cross slide and compound slide also look much like ones used on all other Daltons,? It will be interesting to find out what the spindle nose thread is on this lathe.? My bet it's going to be 1 7/8-8? as used on the Lot 6 and Dalton 9 lathes.? ?For sure you have a very interesting piece of Dalton history. Dennis
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 6:20?PM rusthunter via <msmcgreeney= [email protected]> wrote:
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Tag on coutnershaft that was found with the lathe.? Unknown if it is original or not.
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