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Dave is being kind to you guys and I suspect that his sense of decorum prohibits him from saying what he really feels
REMEMBER
1) For those of you in the Chicken Little Brigade the next time the sky is falling , then before you jump in with a problem report on the same problem for the 10th time today, Check the traffic to see if someone else has reported the problem and the solution and quit wasting Dave's time.
2) It is called a "PERSONAL" computer for a reason. What Dave has hinted at least a dozen times today but decorum prohibits from saying is, " Hey Appliance Operators & Microsoft Zombies"? learn to use and control your PERSONAL computer. It is not a television set with a clicker.
3) BACK UP OFTEN ... I learned that lesson the hard way with a lightning strike 15 years ago, software virus attacks are kittens by comparison .I'll spare you the gory details? but the loss of radio equipment and? computer hardware was trivial compared to the loss of 40 years of all my logs which I had digitized . ( I rationalized that I needed an excuse to start over anyway ..which in fact was kinda fun)? . I takes less than 30 seconds to back up your log every day to a removable USB device most of the rest of it can restored with new installs if necessary.
4) MICROSOFT IS THE ENEMY .... ( The Apple farmers and and Linux Cat Herders are no better) ... NEVER FORGET THAT ...take control of your lives. Education is the key and your never too old to learn. You cant beat them. They could care less that a few thousand of you have a free download computer program that gives a false positive virus alert. I ditched Windows Defender the day It showed up.? I use a 3rd party program (An "App" is a marketing guys invention? for the word Program which was too hard for them to spell) and it lets me make the decisions about what I get and ASKS me very pointedly if I really want block something or quarantine it. I am not suggesting or recommending that you use MY CHOICE of virus protection that is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to research and decide, no mater which one you use though? what comes through or gets blocked is _*YOUR*_ _*RESPONSIBILITY *__*, you need to be informed and take responsibility for checking the right box.*_ My well researched choice by the way updated DXLab last night without so much as a grunt.
**_**_
5) Dave, AA6YQ: I looked? for a few minutes and could find no where to donate financially to the cause. I know it is freeware but after venting the above diatribe, I wanted? to say thank you in a more personal way financially. As I reach the winter of my life I increasingly realize how valuable? ones personal time is. ,,,,, Thank you again and keep up the good work...now I am off to the back yard to sweep up the little blue pieces of sky that fell there
Dave
NR1DX
Flame suit on ! Take your best shot
NR1DX@...
Licensed continuously since 1961
PS: Finally Dave if you ever release a version of DXLAB for Android Phones .... I will reconsider why I left DX4WIN? and came over here to the dark side ...? (Illegitimi non carborundum,)
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On 4/4/2020 3:03 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: 1. Neither Commander nor any other DXLab application is infected with a virus. The anti-malware application telling you otherwise is
defective.
2. You can confirm this for yourself:
<>
3. If you don't replace your defective anti-malware application, expect to frequently repeat this experience; please don't report
those repetitions here. It's irrelevant that your anti-malware application never did this in the past; it's doing it now, and will
likely do so in the future.
4. If your anti-malware application has quarantined or deleted the file
CI-V Commander.exe
from your Commander folder,
4a. make a copy of the file
CI-V Commander1453.exe
4b. rename this copy
CI-V Commander.exe
If you've already upgraded to Commander 14.5.5, then in step 4a above, make the copy of
CI-V Commander1455.exe
Whatever you do, never panic! Deleting application folders or directing Windows to uninstall applications can convert a
trivial-to-repair incident into a disaster. If you don't know what to do, post a question here.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
-- Dave Manuals@... www.ArtekManuals.com
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I second what Dave has said... 73 Bob, KA9JAC PS many times I have seen posts and had to restrain myself from saying what I was really thinking. On 4/4/2020 4:23 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote: Dave is being kind to you guys and I suspect that his sense of decorum prohibits him from saying what he really feels
REMEMBER
1) For those of you in the Chicken Little Brigade the next time the sky is falling , then before you jump in with a problem report on the same problem for the 10th time today, Check the traffic to see if someone else has reported the problem and the solution and quit wasting Dave's time.
2) It is called a "PERSONAL" computer for a reason. What Dave has hinted at least a dozen times today but decorum prohibits from saying is, " Hey Appliance Operators & Microsoft Zombies" learn to use and control your PERSONAL computer. It is not a television set with a clicker.
3) BACK UP OFTEN ... I learned that lesson the hard way with a lightning strike 15 years ago, software virus attacks are kittens by comparison .I'll spare you the gory details??? but the loss of radio equipment and??? computer hardware was trivial compared to the loss of 40 years of all my logs which I had digitized . ( I rationalized that I needed an excuse to start over anyway ..which in fact was kinda fun)??? . I takes less than 30 seconds to back up your log every day to a removable USB device most of the rest of it can restored with new installs if necessary.
4) MICROSOFT IS THE ENEMY .... ( The Apple farmers and and Linux Cat Herders are no better) ... NEVER FORGET THAT ...take control of your lives. Education is the key and your never too old to learn. You cant beat them. They could care less that a few thousand of you have a free download computer program that gives a false positive virus alert. I ditched Windows Defender the day It showed up.??? I use a 3rd party program (An "App" is a marketing guys invention??? for the word Program which was too hard for them to spell) and it lets me make the decisions about what I get and ASKS me very pointedly if I really want block something or quarantine it. I am not suggesting or recommending that you use MY CHOICE of virus protection that is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to research and decide, no mater which one you use though??? what comes through or gets blocked is _*YOUR*_ _*RESPONSIBILITY *__*, you need to be informed and take responsibility for checking the right box.*_ My well researched choice by the way updated DXLab last night without so much as a grunt.
**_**_
5) Dave, AA6YQ: I looked??? for a few minutes and could find no where to donate financially to the cause. I know it is freeware but after venting the above diatribe, I wanted??? to say thank you in a more personal way financially. As I reach the winter of my life I increasingly realize how valuable??? ones personal time is. ,,,,, Thank you again and keep up the good work...now I am off to the back yard to sweep up the little blue pieces of sky that fell there
Dave
NR1DX
Flame suit on ! Take your best shot
NR1DX@...
Licensed continuously since 1961
PS: Finally Dave if you ever release a version of DXLAB for Android Phones .... I will reconsider why I left DX4WIN??? and came over here to the dark side ...??? (Illegitimi non carborundum,)
On 4/4/2020 3:03 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
1. Neither Commander nor any other DXLab application is infected with a virus. The anti-malware application telling you otherwise is
defective.
2. You can confirm this for yourself:
<>
3. If you don't replace your defective anti-malware application, expect to frequently repeat this experience; please don't report
those repetitions here. It's irrelevant that your anti-malware application never did this in the past; it's doing it now, and will
likely do so in the future.
4. If your anti-malware application has quarantined or deleted the file
CI-V Commander.exe
from your Commander folder,
4a. make a copy of the file
CI-V Commander1453.exe
4b. rename this copy
CI-V Commander.exe
If you've already upgraded to Commander 14.5.5, then in step 4a above, make the copy of
CI-V Commander1455.exe
Whatever you do, never panic! Deleting application folders or directing Windows to uninstall applications can convert a
trivial-to-repair incident into a disaster. If you don't know what to do, post a question here.
??????????????????????????? 73,
????????????????????????????????????????????? Dave,??? AA6YQ
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+ AA6YQ comments below
Dave is being kind to you guys and I suspect that his sense of decorum prohibits him from saying what he really feels
+ That's not correct. It is the policy of this Group to accept and politely answer all questions, no matter how many times they have
already been asked and answered. DXLab pushes the limits on the use of computing in amateur radio. While interference from defective
anti-malware applications isn't the result of this limit pushing, it's to be expected that many users won't know what to do when
this happens, and some will take actions that are counterproductive. Chastising users for this behavior will accomplish nothing
other than discouraging future posts, and possibly future DXLab users.
+ Learning how to manage one's personal computer is not the focus of this group, but sharing "best practices" certainly is.
Anti-malware applications are a challenge, because misconfiguring them could result in the exposure and loss of information, which
could in turn produce very bad consequences. Thus I do not provide advice on configuring specific anti-malware applications, and go
no further than to report that in my use of the free version of AVG over the past ~20 years, I have never experienced a malware
infection, or had one of my applications damaged or impeded by its presence. There are other anti-malware applications that are
frequently reported to have similar virtues.
+ Microsoft is not the enemy. Without Windows, there would be no DXLab. In the early 1990s, I established a strategic partnership
between Rational Software and Microsoft to promote our companys' mutual interest in modern software engineering for use in
enterprise computing. We'd made a successful transition from our proprietary computer architecture and operating system to Unix, and
needed to understand the challenges that our new Windows customers were experiencing. I'd gotten my amateur radio license in 1990
and wanted to develop software to aid in DXing; to gain personal experience with Windows, I began using Microsoft's development
tools to build what ultimately became DXLab. I still have friends at Microsoft, one a senior executive who assigned 2 engineers over
a weekend to correct a regression in Windows 10 that prevented DDE (and thus DXLab) from working correctly.
+ Yes, Windows 10 and Microsoft's anti-malware products have defects and deficiencies. My advice is to avoid Microsoft products for
which better alternatives are available. Like anti-malware.
+ Thanks for the offer, but I do not accept donations. I develop DXLab because I enjoy working directly with users to build useful
software. If you absolutely have to make a financial donation, I recommend St. Jude's Children's hospital; they do excellent work
with low administrative overhead.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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Dave,
I can't help noticing you recommend using other than Microsoft's products for anti-malware.
From a security?standpoint this may be true (I don't have the expertise to judge) but in the? past four years I have only had one single case of false positives and one performance? related issue?(which was easily solved using a manual exception) using the firewall and? anti-malware built into Windows 10 with ham radio software.?
On this and other reflectors I frequently see fellow hams suffering from false positives,? performance etc. with non-Microsoft anti-malware products.?
So, at least in my particular case, I have?been more?happy (and spent far less money)? relying on Microsoft also in this area also.?
Bj?rn SM7IUN
Den s?n 5 apr. 2020 kl 00:45 skrev Dave AA6YQ < aa6yq@...>:
+ AA6YQ comments below
Dave is being kind to you guys and I suspect that his sense of decorum prohibits him from saying what he really feels
+ That's not correct. It is the policy of this Group to accept and politely answer all questions, no matter how many times they have
already been asked and answered. DXLab pushes the limits on the use of computing in amateur radio. While interference from defective
anti-malware applications isn't the result of this limit pushing, it's to be expected that many users won't know what to do when
this happens,? and some will take actions that are counterproductive. Chastising users for this behavior will accomplish nothing
other than discouraging future posts, and possibly future DXLab users.
+ Learning how to manage one's personal computer is not the focus of this group, but sharing "best practices" certainly is.
Anti-malware applications are a challenge, because misconfiguring them could result in the exposure and loss of information, which
could in turn produce very bad consequences. Thus I do not provide advice on configuring specific anti-malware applications, and go
no further than to report that in my use of the free version of AVG over the past ~20 years, I have never experienced a malware
infection, or had one of my applications damaged or impeded by its presence. There are other anti-malware applications that are
frequently reported to have similar virtues.
+ Microsoft is not the enemy. Without Windows, there would be no DXLab. In the early 1990s, I established a strategic partnership
between Rational Software and Microsoft to promote our companys' mutual interest in modern software engineering for use in
enterprise computing. We'd made a successful transition from our proprietary computer architecture and operating system to Unix, and
needed to understand the challenges that our new Windows customers were experiencing. I'd gotten my amateur radio license in 1990
and wanted to develop software to aid in DXing; to gain personal experience with Windows, I began using Microsoft's development
tools to build what ultimately became DXLab. I still have friends at Microsoft, one a senior executive who assigned 2 engineers over
a weekend to correct a regression in Windows 10 that prevented DDE (and thus DXLab) from working correctly.
+ Yes, Windows 10 and Microsoft's anti-malware products have defects and deficiencies. My advice is to avoid Microsoft products for
which better alternatives are available. Like anti-malware.
+ Thanks for the offer, but I do not accept donations. I develop DXLab because I enjoy working directly with users to build useful
software. If you absolutely have to make a financial donation, I recommend St. Jude's Children's hospital; they do excellent work
with low administrative overhead.
? ? ? ? ?73,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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+ AA6YQ comments below
I can't help noticing you recommend using other than Microsoft's products for anti-malware.
From a security standpoint this may be true (I don't have the expertise to judge) but in the past four years I have only had one single case of false positives and one performance related issue (which was easily solved using a manual exception) using the firewall and anti-malware built into Windows 10 with ham radio software.
On this and other reflectors I frequently see fellow hams suffering from false positives, performance etc. with non-Microsoft anti-malware products.
So, at least in my particular case, I have been more happy (and spent far less money) relying on Microsoft also in this area also.
+ Over the past ~2 weeks, there has been a marked upswing in false positives in Microsoft anti-malware applications, accompanied by the autonomous removal of DXLab executables. To the extent that ops respond to these as recommended in
+ this would be harmless, but a serious diagnosis coming from a previously trustworthy Microsoft application has stampeded several ops into over-reacting. Several are now re-installing Windows on their C: drives.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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On Apr 5, 2020, at 2:36 AM, Bj?rn Ekelund, SM7IUN <bjorn@...> wrote:
? Dave,
I can't help noticing you recommend using other than Microsoft's products for anti-malware.
From a security?standpoint this may be true (I don't have the expertise to judge) but in the? past four years I have only had one single case of false positives and one performance? related issue?(which was easily solved using a manual exception) using the firewall and? anti-malware built into Windows 10 with ham radio software.?
On this and other reflectors I frequently see fellow hams suffering from false positives,? performance etc. with non-Microsoft anti-malware products.?
So, at least in my particular case, I have?been more?happy (and spent far less money)? relying on Microsoft also in this area also.?
Bj?rn SM7IUN
Den s?n 5 apr. 2020 kl 00:45 skrev Dave AA6YQ < aa6yq@...>: + AA6YQ comments below
Dave is being kind to you guys and I suspect that his sense of decorum prohibits him from saying what he really feels
+ That's not correct. It is the policy of this Group to accept and politely answer all questions, no matter how many times they have
already been asked and answered. DXLab pushes the limits on the use of computing in amateur radio. While interference from defective
anti-malware applications isn't the result of this limit pushing, it's to be expected that many users won't know what to do when
this happens,? and some will take actions that are counterproductive. Chastising users for this behavior will accomplish nothing
other than discouraging future posts, and possibly future DXLab users.
+ Learning how to manage one's personal computer is not the focus of this group, but sharing "best practices" certainly is.
Anti-malware applications are a challenge, because misconfiguring them could result in the exposure and loss of information, which
could in turn produce very bad consequences. Thus I do not provide advice on configuring specific anti-malware applications, and go
no further than to report that in my use of the free version of AVG over the past ~20 years, I have never experienced a malware
infection, or had one of my applications damaged or impeded by its presence. There are other anti-malware applications that are
frequently reported to have similar virtues.
+ Microsoft is not the enemy. Without Windows, there would be no DXLab. In the early 1990s, I established a strategic partnership
between Rational Software and Microsoft to promote our companys' mutual interest in modern software engineering for use in
enterprise computing. We'd made a successful transition from our proprietary computer architecture and operating system to Unix, and
needed to understand the challenges that our new Windows customers were experiencing. I'd gotten my amateur radio license in 1990
and wanted to develop software to aid in DXing; to gain personal experience with Windows, I began using Microsoft's development
tools to build what ultimately became DXLab. I still have friends at Microsoft, one a senior executive who assigned 2 engineers over
a weekend to correct a regression in Windows 10 that prevented DDE (and thus DXLab) from working correctly.
+ Yes, Windows 10 and Microsoft's anti-malware products have defects and deficiencies. My advice is to avoid Microsoft products for
which better alternatives are available. Like anti-malware.
+ Thanks for the offer, but I do not accept donations. I develop DXLab because I enjoy working directly with users to build useful
software. If you absolutely have to make a financial donation, I recommend St. Jude's Children's hospital; they do excellent work
with low administrative overhead.
? ? ? ? ?73,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
-- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W
Hierro candente, batir de repente
HP Laptop
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On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:36 AM Bj?rn Ekelund, SM7IUN <bjorn@...> wrote: I can't help noticing you recommend using other than Microsoft's products for anti-malware.
From a security standpoint this may be true (I don't have the expertise to judge) but in the
past four years I have only had one single case of false positives and one performance
related issue (which was easily solved using a manual exception) using the firewall and
anti-malware built into Windows 10 with ham radio software.
On this and other reflectors I frequently see fellow hams suffering from false positives,
performance etc. with non-Microsoft anti-malware products.
So, at least in my particular case, I have been more happy (and spent far less money)
relying on Microsoft also in this area also. This matches my experience with W10. The only other time Windows Defender has tripped was with JT-Alert. Since I'm not as familiar with the "production facilities" of that package like I am with DXLab, I elected to live without the software rather than trying to figure out if it was a false alarm or a legit threat. When it tripped again this week on Commander, that was a different story - no Commander would mean, basically, no ham radio. :-) I did post here right at the beginning of the flood and it was immediately apparent that either Commander was infected with a non-COVID-19 virus or there was a problem with Windows Defender. Clearly, it's the latter. The virus checker checker Dave posted at this link quickly made that clear: Before "fixing" Commander, I did back up my TQSL certs and my log as well as saving the registry settings for all DXLab components to my Dropbox account. Log and TQSL backups are regular (actually, the log is backed up whenever I run DXKeeper) but the registry stuff isn't done by me frequently enough. What's most annoying is that Defender's MO seems to have changed. I never had the opportunity to white-list Commander, manually quarantine it, or anything, even though that's part of that program. Defender just "took it away". Googling around, I couldn't even figure out where its quarantine directory is. Still, I have no intention of simply marking favored programs as "OK" preemptively. That's no way to run a railroad. And I have no plans to buy software to do Defender's job. -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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I agree too. Ever since Windows 7 came out, I have only used Microsoft's anti-virus with no problems.
73, Rod/w7zrc
On Sunday, April 5, 2020, 7:35:19 AM MDT, Gilbert Baron W0MN <w0mn00@...> wrote:
Total agreement here.? iPad Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb
On Apr 5, 2020, at 2:36 AM, Bj?rn Ekelund, SM7IUN <bjorn@...> wrote:
? Dave,
I can't help noticing you recommend using other than Microsoft's products for anti-malware.
From a security?standpoint this may be true (I don't have the expertise to judge) but in the? past four years I have only had one single case of false positives and one performance? related issue?(which was easily solved using a manual exception) using the firewall and? anti-malware built into Windows 10 with ham radio software.?
On this and other reflectors I frequently see fellow hams suffering from false positives,? performance etc. with non-Microsoft anti-malware products.?
So, at least in my particular case, I have?been more?happy (and spent far less money)? relying on Microsoft also in this area also.?
Bj?rn SM7IUN
Den s?n 5 apr. 2020 kl 00:45 skrev Dave AA6YQ < aa6yq@...>: + AA6YQ comments below
Dave is being kind to you guys and I suspect that his sense of decorum prohibits him from saying what he really feels
+ That's not correct. It is the policy of this Group to accept and politely answer all questions, no matter how many times they have
already been asked and answered. DXLab pushes the limits on the use of computing in amateur radio. While interference from defective
anti-malware applications isn't the result of this limit pushing, it's to be expected that many users won't know what to do when
this happens,? and some will take actions that are counterproductive. Chastising users for this behavior will accomplish nothing
other than discouraging future posts, and possibly future DXLab users.
+ Learning how to manage one's personal computer is not the focus of this group, but sharing "best practices" certainly is.
Anti-malware applications are a challenge, because misconfiguring them could result in the exposure and loss of information, which
could in turn produce very bad consequences. Thus I do not provide advice on configuring specific anti-malware applications, and go
no further than to report that in my use of the free version of AVG over the past ~20 years, I have never experienced a malware
infection, or had one of my applications damaged or impeded by its presence. There are other anti-malware applications that are
frequently reported to have similar virtues.
+ Microsoft is not the enemy. Without Windows, there would be no DXLab. In the early 1990s, I established a strategic partnership
between Rational Software and Microsoft to promote our companys' mutual interest in modern software engineering for use in
enterprise computing. We'd made a successful transition from our proprietary computer architecture and operating system to Unix, and
needed to understand the challenges that our new Windows customers were experiencing. I'd gotten my amateur radio license in 1990
and wanted to develop software to aid in DXing; to gain personal experience with Windows, I began using Microsoft's development
tools to build what ultimately became DXLab. I still have friends at Microsoft, one a senior executive who assigned 2 engineers over
a weekend to correct a regression in Windows 10 that prevented DDE (and thus DXLab) from working correctly.
+ Yes, Windows 10 and Microsoft's anti-malware products have defects and deficiencies. My advice is to avoid Microsoft products for
which better alternatives are available. Like anti-malware.
+ Thanks for the offer, but I do not accept donations. I develop DXLab because I enjoy working directly with users to build useful
software. If you absolutely have to make a financial donation, I recommend St. Jude's Children's hospital; they do excellent work
with low administrative overhead.
? ? ? ? ?73,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
-- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W
Hierro candente, batir de repente
HP Laptop
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Thanks Dave,
This surge in Microsoft-related false positives have gone past me.?
My view is that cybersecurity is more behavior and knowledge than tools.?
Bj?rn SM7IUN Den s?n 5 apr. 2020 kl 10:34 skrev Dave AA6YQ < aa6yq@...>:
+ AA6YQ comments below
I can't help noticing you recommend using other than Microsoft's products for anti-malware.
From a security standpoint this may be true (I don't have the expertise to judge) but in the past four years I have only had one single case of false positives and one performance related issue (which was easily solved using a manual exception) using the firewall and anti-malware built into Windows 10 with ham radio software.
On this and other reflectors I frequently see fellow hams suffering from false positives, performance etc. with non-Microsoft anti-malware products.
So, at least in my particular case, I have been more happy (and spent far less money) relying on Microsoft also in this area also.
+ Over the past ~2 weeks, there has been a marked upswing in false positives in Microsoft anti-malware applications, accompanied by the autonomous removal of DXLab executables. To the extent that ops respond to these as recommended in
+ this would be harmless, but a serious diagnosis coming from a previously trustworthy Microsoft application has stampeded several ops into over-reacting. Several are now re-installing Windows on their C: drives.
? ? ? ? ? ? 73,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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+ AA6YQ comments below This surge in Microsoft-related false positives have gone past me. + Take a look at < /g/DXLab> + This group has been averaging 750 posts per month. There have been 219 posts in the first 5 days of April, doubling the usual rate. Most of those posts are reports of Microsoft anti-malware damage, or requests for assistance in correcting that damage. + Helping ~20 users restore their damaged systems to operation feels like playing ~20 simultaneous chess games. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
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Thank God Dave is very good at chess.
Dave - K9FN
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:44 PM Dave AA6YQ < aa6yq@...> wrote: + AA6YQ comments below
This surge in Microsoft-related false positives have gone past me.
+ Take a look at
</g/DXLab>
+ This group has been averaging 750 posts per month. There have been 219 posts in the first 5 days of April, doubling the usual rate. Most of those posts are reports of Microsoft anti-malware damage, or requests for assistance in correcting that damage.
+ Helping ~20 users restore their damaged systems to operation feels like playing ~20 simultaneous chess games.
? ? ? ?73,
? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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Dave is the Bobby Fischer of software developers!! ? - 73 and good DX de Mike, , Secretary ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of David Bunte Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 10:55 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [DXLab] The Sky is falling ? Thank God Dave is very good at chess. ? On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:44 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote: + AA6YQ comments below
This surge in Microsoft-related false positives have gone past me.
+ Take a look at
</g/DXLab>
+ This group has been averaging 750 posts per month. There have been 219 posts in the first 5 days of April, doubling the usual rate. Most of those posts are reports of Microsoft anti-malware damage, or requests for assistance in correcting that damage.
+ Helping ~20 users restore their damaged systems to operation feels like playing ~20 simultaneous chess games.
? ? ? ?73,
? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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Maybe it is a benefit of working in the IT Industry including security that I look at any report first as a false positive until proven otherwise. Reports are scrutinized of course but we never take action until we confirm the finding. I can see why others outside the field or relevant experience would look at it the exact opposite as if the tool is gospel —that is rarely the case. All software is suspect and subject to a “reasonableness test”.
Tom NY4I
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My solution was simple - completely disable Windows Defender (which in my very humble opinion is total rubbish!) and install a DECENT Antivirus solution - in my case ESET Internet Security. (ESET Nod32 is also very good!)
Being an IT Support Tech in a 3rd-World country where TARGETED virus and ransomware attacks are quite commonplace, a decent antivirus/malware solution is a necessity. Quite simply put, when it comes to internet security you get what you pay for - and Windows Defender is simply not good enough, either AVG or AVAST are significantly better but STILL not good enough in an environment such as ours in South Africa. I have lost count of the number of client systems running these free packages that when scanned with a decent product have proved to be riddled with malignant viruses and Trojans! I also suffered a hit several years ago - infected by a virus that came straight through my AVAST Free package - which is what prompted me to investigate the decent options!
As a dealer I have access to all the leading brands of Security products - why I went for ESET was due to it's VERY good record with Day Zero detection. This proved extremely valuable during some of the recent Ransomware attacks, where it's Heuristics identified and blocked attacks like Wannacry and Petya. This saved two of my customers that were targeted. At least 5 other companies in my city were not so lucky. Whilst products such as Kaspersky and BitDefender have good reputations, I have found that ESET is outstanding as far as minimal False Positives is concerned whilst correctly identifying VALID threats to my system. (No problem with either DXLabs or JTAlert!)
Of course the threat level in a 1st-World country like the USA may be totally different - I can only speak from my experience here in Africa - so free packages may work for you over there.... just hope and pray you never get the level of targeting that we have down here!!! Incidentally, as a former Apple Service Tech from the 90's I can NEVER bring myself to trust Micro$oft with the security of my system (the dishonest practices of Gates and Allen still linger in the mind, albeit that the consequences of their actions DID save Apple from bankruptcy and brought Steve Jobs back to the company.... and as they say, the rest is history!).
73 de BARRY MURRELL ZS2EZ
KF26ta - Port Elizabeth, South Africa
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ Sent: Sunday, 05 April 2020 19:44 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [DXLab] The Sky is falling + AA6YQ comments below This surge in Microsoft-related false positives have gone past me. + Take a look at < /g/DXLab> + This group has been averaging 750 posts per month. There have been 219 posts in the first 5 days of April, doubling the usual rate. Most of those posts are reports of Microsoft anti-malware damage, or requests for assistance in correcting that damage. + Helping ~20 users restore their damaged systems to operation feels like playing ~20 simultaneous chess games. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
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My solution was simple - completely disable Windows Defender (which in my very humble opinion is total rubbish!) and install a DECENT Antivirus solution - in my case ESET Internet Security. (ESET Nod32 is also very good!)
Being an IT Support Tech in a 3rd-World country where TARGETED virus and ransomware attacks are quite commonplace, a decent antivirus/malware solution is a necessity. Quite simply put, when it comes to internet security you get what you pay for - and Windows Defender is simply not good enough, either AVG or AVAST are significantly better but STILL not good enough in an environment such as ours in South Africa. I have lost count of the number of client systems running these free packages that when scanned with a decent product have proved to be riddled with malignant viruses and Trojans! I also suffered a hit several years ago - infected by a virus that came straight through my AVAST Free package - which is what prompted me to investigate the decent options!
As a dealer I have access to all the leading brands of Security products - why I went for ESET was due to it's VERY good record with Day Zero detection. This proved extremely valuable during some of the recent Ransomware attacks, where it's Heuristics identified and blocked attacks like Wannacry and Petya. This saved two of my customers that were targeted. At least 5 other companies in my city were not so lucky. Whilst products such as Kaspersky and BitDefender have good reputations, I have found that ESET is outstanding as far as minimal False Positives is concerned whilst correctly identifying VALID threats to my system. (No problem with either DXLabs or JTAlert!)
Of course the threat level in a 1st-World country like the USA may be totally different - I can only speak from my experience here in Africa - so free packages may work for you over there.... just hope and pray you never get the level of targeting that we have down here!!! Incidentally, as a former Apple Service Tech from the 90's I can NEVER bring myself to trust Micro$oft with the security of my system (the dishonest practices of Gates and Allen still linger in the mind, albeit that the consequences of their actions DID save Apple from bankruptcy and brought Steve Jobs back to the company.... and as they say, the rest is history!).
+ Thanks, Barry!
+ If ops using ESET post questions about it here -- like how to properly configure it -- will you be comfortable answering?
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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Hi Dave
Will gladly assist!! Happy to help via Teamviewer or AnyDesk as well - bearing in mind the time difference!!
73 de BARRY MURRELL ZS2EZ
KF26ta - Port Elizabeth, South Africa
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ Sent: Monday, 06 April 2020 10:20 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [DXLab] The Sky is falling + AA6YQ comments below My solution was simple - completely disable Windows Defender (which in my very humble opinion is total rubbish!) and install a DECENT Antivirus solution - in my case ESET Internet Security. (ESET Nod32 is also very good!) Being an IT Support Tech in a 3rd-World country where TARGETED virus and ransomware attacks are quite commonplace, a decent antivirus/malware solution is a necessity. Quite simply put, when it comes to internet security you get what you pay for - and Windows Defender is simply not good enough, either AVG or AVAST are significantly better but STILL not good enough in an environment such as ours in South Africa. I have lost count of the number of client systems running these free packages that when scanned with a decent product have proved to be riddled with malignant viruses and Trojans! I also suffered a hit several years ago - infected by a virus that came straight through my AVAST Free package - which is what prompted me to investigate the decent options! As a dealer I have access to all the leading brands of Security products - why I went for ESET was due to it's VERY good record with Day Zero detection. This proved extremely valuable during some of the recent Ransomware attacks, where it's Heuristics identified and blocked attacks like Wannacry and Petya. This saved two of my customers that were targeted. At least 5 other companies in my city were not so lucky. Whilst products such as Kaspersky and BitDefender have good reputations, I have found that ESET is outstanding as far as minimal False Positives is concerned whilst correctly identifying VALID threats to my system. (No problem with either DXLabs or JTAlert!) Of course the threat level in a 1st-World country like the USA may be totally different - I can only speak from my experience here in Africa - so free packages may work for you over there.... just hope and pray you never get the level of targeting that we have down here!!! Incidentally, as a former Apple Service Tech from the 90's I can NEVER bring myself to trust Micro$oft with the security of my system (the dishonest practices of Gates and Allen still linger in the mind, albeit that the consequences of their actions DID save Apple from bankruptcy and brought Steve Jobs back to the company.... and as they say, the rest is history!). + Thanks, Barry! + If ops using ESET post questions about it here -- like how to properly configure it -- will you be comfortable answering? 73, Dave, AA6YQ
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Will gladly assist!! Happy to help via Teamviewer or AnyDesk as well - bearing in mind the time difference!!
* Many thanks, Barry!
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
My solution was simple - completely disable Windows Defender (which in my very humble opinion is total rubbish!) and install a DECENT Antivirus solution - in my case ESET Internet Security. (ESET Nod32 is also very good!)
Being an IT Support Tech in a 3rd-World country where TARGETED virus and ransomware attacks are quite commonplace, a decent antivirus/malware solution is a necessity. Quite simply put, when it comes to internet security you get what you pay for - and Windows Defender is simply not good enough, either AVG or AVAST are significantly better but STILL not good enough in an environment such as ours in South Africa. I have lost count of the number of client systems running these free packages that when scanned with a decent product have proved to be riddled with malignant viruses and Trojans! I also suffered a hit several years ago - infected by a virus that came straight through my AVAST Free package - which is what prompted me to investigate the decent options!
As a dealer I have access to all the leading brands of Security products - why I went for ESET was due to it's VERY good record with Day Zero detection. This proved extremely valuable during some of the recent Ransomware attacks, where it's Heuristics identified and blocked attacks like Wannacry and Petya. This saved two of my customers that were targeted. At least 5 other companies in my city were not so lucky. Whilst products such as Kaspersky and BitDefender have good reputations, I have found that ESET is outstanding as far as minimal False Positives is concerned whilst correctly identifying VALID threats to my system. (No problem with either DXLabs or JTAlert!)
Of course the threat level in a 1st-World country like the USA may be totally different - I can only speak from my experience here in Africa - so free packages may work for you over there.... just hope and pray you never get the level of targeting that we have down here!!! Incidentally, as a former Apple Service Tech from the 90's I can NEVER bring myself to trust Micro$oft with the security of my system (the dishonest practices of Gates and Allen still linger in the mind, albeit that the consequences of their actions DID save Apple from bankruptcy and brought Steve Jobs back to the company.... and as they say, the rest is history!).
+ Thanks, Barry!
+ If ops using ESET post questions about it here -- like how to properly configure it -- will you be comfortable answering?
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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