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My PC is at least 12 years old and W11 is not supported starting late 2025
due to the new security chip requirements. I could continue with W10 and live without the security updates (Not about to pay the Microsoft support charges for getting another year or 3) . if I use it only for radio, I suppose I could ignore the security loss??? . It is a hard decision since it has MANY ports and a video card that I added so it supports my 2 HDMI monitors (3 with the built in video) and also added an SSD which helped a lot for speed. It does take about 60 seconds for DXLABS to start ALL of the DXLAB applications. On the other hand it will be hard to give up all the other applications and use only y laptop for those. I have a Lenovo which is very good but it has no practical way to add monitors. No HDMI output, no video output at all. Looking for suggestions. It is going to be a pain moving to a new machine. Dave has great documentation about doing that but is not a 2 minute operation. Radio is TS590SG and WinKeyer which have given no trouble. Outlook LAPTOP Gil (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
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Gil,
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If you're satisfied with the performance, why not just use a security suite/program you're comfortable with? Jim N7US -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gilbert Baron W0MN via groups.io Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 08:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [DXLab] New Computer My PC is at least 12 years old and W11 is not supported starting late 2025 due to the new security chip requirements. I could continue with W10 and live without the security updates (Not about to pay the Microsoft support charges for getting another year or 3) . if I use it only for radio, I suppose I could ignore the security loss??? . It is a hard decision since it has MANY ports and a video card that I added so it supports my 2 HDMI monitors (3 with the built in video) and also added an SSD which helped a lot for speed. It does take about 60 seconds for DXLABS to start ALL of the DXLAB applications. On the other hand it will be hard to give up all the other applications and use only y laptop for those. I have a Lenovo which is very good but it has no practical way to add monitors. No HDMI output, no video output at all. Looking for suggestions. It is going to be a pain moving to a new machine. Dave has great documentation about doing that but is not a 2 minute operation. Radio is TS590SG and WinKeyer which have given no trouble. Outlook LAPTOP Gil (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb |
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Not a bad idea. I use defender but that probably will not get updates either
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once W10 support ends. I have been very happy with Defender and it would take a huge step to get me to change. Outlook LAPTOP Gil (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim N7US via groups.io Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] New Computer Gil, If you're satisfied with the performance, why not just use a security suite/program you're comfortable with? Jim N7US -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gilbert Baron W0MN via groups.io Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 08:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [DXLab] New Computer My PC is at least 12 years old and W11 is not supported starting late 2025 due to the new security chip requirements. I could continue with W10 and live without the security updates (Not about to pay the Microsoft support charges for getting another year or 3) . if I use it only for radio, I suppose I could ignore the security loss??? . It is a hard decision since it has MANY ports and a video card that I added so it supports my 2 HDMI monitors (3 with the built in video) and also added an SSD which helped a lot for speed. It does take about 60 seconds for DXLABS to start ALL of the DXLAB applications. On the other hand it will be hard to give up all the other applications and use only y laptop for those. I have a Lenovo which is very good but it has no practical way to add monitors. No HDMI output, no video output at all. Looking for suggestions. It is going to be a pain moving to a new machine. Dave has great documentation about doing that but is not a 2 minute operation. Radio is TS590SG and WinKeyer which have given no trouble. Outlook LAPTOP Gil (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
开云体育I am not willing to put up with the security issues nor to switch to other anti-malware applications. I am not? willing? to install W11 were it? does not belong. I am ready for a NEW machine anyway after all of these years. ? Your device?might?malfunction due to?these?compatibility or other issues.?Devices?that do not meet these system requirements?will no longer be?guaranteed?to?receive updates,?including but not limited to security updates.?? The following disclaimer applies if you install Windows 11 on a device that doesn't meet the minimum system requirements: This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues. If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates. Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty. ? ? ? Gil? (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Smithson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] New Computer ? Long term running older versions of Windows presents as-of-yet unknown?security vulnerabilities not only to you but everyone sharing the network with you. If your PC is on the Internet, it should be up to date. ? It turns out there are ways to bypass the checks to upgrade to Win11. Here's a link from Microsoft themselves: ? ? You probably aren't interested, but a system that old has probably accumulated a lot of cruft and is likely to start acting up - hard drives, fans, etc. A new system with enough grunt can be relatively inexpensive and would come with 11. Yes, you'd have to move all your stuff and reinstall apps you need. You'll likely find a bunch you don't use anymore and save some perf and space that way. ? I'm a nerd and into this, so I rebuilt my system every year anyway. ? flames > /dev/null ? 73 ? -Brian n 8wrl ? On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 9:59?AM Jim N7US via <jim=[email protected]> wrote:
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开云体育Many good PCs out there but most are not available around here and many not even by shipment. This is probably way beyond the needs of DXLabs but I would run a lot of other thigs too. I bet my chess engine app would destroy even the world champion on owe of? these. ? Tanks for the recommendations. I guess I still have over a year to decide. ? Outlook LAPTOP Gil? (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] New Computer ? + AA6YQ comments below
+ This would be the next step up: + Microcenter doesn't have it in stock, and so doesn't show a price on their web page; I think its around $1300. + All of PowerSpec's PCs are described here: + They are excellent, in my experience. ? ? ? ?73, ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ ? -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
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Another vote for Micro Center.? They have a store about 3 hours away.? I have bought three PCs from them at two different stores in two different states.? They are excellent at support as well.?? On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:51?PM Dave AA6YQ via <aa6yq=[email protected]> wrote: + AA6YQ comments below |
开云体育There is a store near Minneapolis (St. Louis Park). Only about 75 miles from me. I will have to check that out. Thanks. Too bad we lost Radio City. It was a great radio store and was also a seller of telescopes for the Astronomy hobbyists. They had instore repair too. ? Only plus was the good deal on my TS590-SG that was a demo unit. It had all the accessories installed too. ? ? Outlook LAPTOP Gil? (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck, WS1L via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 5:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] New Computer ? Another vote for Micro Center.? They have a store about 3 hours away.? I have bought three PCs from them at two different stores in two different states.? They are excellent at support as well.?? ? ? On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:51?PM Dave AA6YQ via <aa6yq=[email protected]> wrote:
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AA6YQ Wrote "+ Microcenter doesn't have it in stock, and so doesn't show a price on their web page; I think its around $1300." And Good luck trying to save money and build one with a 13th Generation I7 or I9 with a bundle at microcenter. Intel made a big jump from the 12th Gen to the 13th Gen. With the prices of the 13th Gen coming down, they are getting picked up quick. The last I7 13th Gen bundle I saw was over a month ago when I helped a buddy build basically the same computer. I was planning to pick one up at the end of the year, when the prices really come down, but I may be out of luck. And 1300$ is correct. He paid 1700$ with an extra 32G of ram, a very fast NVME drive and had Microcenter build it for him. Jerry - N5EKO
On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 06:45:55 PM CDT, Gilbert Baron W0MN <w0mn00@...> wrote:
There is a store near Minneapolis (St. Louis Park). Only about 75 miles from me. I will have to check that out. Thanks. Too bad we lost Radio City. It was a great radio store and was also a seller of telescopes for the Astronomy hobbyists. They had instore repair too. ? Only plus was the good deal on my TS590-SG that was a demo unit. It had all the accessories installed too. ? ? Outlook LAPTOP Gil? (Radio W0MN) Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck, WS1L via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 5:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] New Computer ? Another vote for Micro Center.? They have a store about 3 hours away.? I have bought three PCs from them at two different stores in two different states.? They are excellent at support as well.?? ? ? On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:51?PM Dave AA6YQ via <aa6yq=[email protected]> wrote:
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Gilbert Baron W0MN
Jim N7US
Chuck, WS1L
Jerry N5EKO