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-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of John
Cadick
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:43 PM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: RE: [dxlab] Windows XP to Windows 7

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I got the directions for moving dxlabsuite between PCs at
. I got the directions
for mvoing lotw between PCs at
.

The first directions seemed to work flawlessly - the second not so good. In
all the discussion about Win 7 pros and cons the real problem that I have
seems to have been lost. I have my certificates. When I run tsqlcert - my
certificates all show up just fine.

The instructions in

<> should be
extended to take into account the changes Microsoft has made in Vista and
Windows 7. I will install TQSL on my Vista system and track down the new
location of the station_data file. Can someone with TQSL installed on
WIndows 7 report the location of the station_data file on their system? This
will answer John's question, and enable me to update the "Getting Started"
wiki entry. Thanks...

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

I would like to thank Rich W3ZJ for taking the initiative to create this group, and for his efforts over the past 8 years to maintain an open, constructive, and friendly forum.

I would also like to thank the many users whose questions, critique, and suggestions posted here have so substantially improved DXLab's functionality, usability, robustness, and performance.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

<<<<However, I have now started using the backup that is an integral part of
Windows 7 professional and find it far more reliable than Ghost. Also,
now every file on my system has a list of previous versions that can be
restored with a couple of clicks. You don't even have to start up the
backup program to access backed up previous versions of a file. That
backup is available in Windows 7 Home premium but unfortunately that
version will not work over a network.>>>>

My three Win 7 systems are all Win 7 Professional. They were installed by my company's IT consultant, and they work fine with the occasional "getting-to-know-you" glitch. I am now using Acronis "True Image Home 2010" So far it seems to work fine and seems much more intuitive than Ghost.

<<<<That is one of several reasons why I decided that Windows 7 professional
is worth the extra bucks. The other reasons are the ability to host a
remote desktop session, a feature that I use daily between my shack
computer and my roaming laptop, and Windows Virtual PC.>>>

Remote desktop is one of the items that I have not set up yet; however, I am going to.

<<<<Microsoft claims that Windows 7 is simpler to use and once you get out
of the old Windows XP mind set and stop trying to make things more
complicated than they are I think you will agree that it really is simpler.>>>>

<<<<That statement is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is intrinsically correct because a person can get used to any new way of doing anything. After you do - it may or may not be "simpler." The question is - why should I have to? I haven't used Windows 7 very long; however, I am navigating around it pretty well. So far it isn't any simpler, it is just different. (My $.02 worth) Another annoyance - My first PC was a Sinclair Timex TS 2000. I have worked with and used Commodore, CPM, DOS, Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, Millenium, NT, XP, Server 2003, and now Windows 7. >>>>

--> End rant <--

I got the directions for moving dxlabsuite between PCs at . I got the directions for mvoing lotw between PCs at .

The first directions seemed to work flawlessly - the second not so good. In all the discussion about Win 7 pros and cons the real problem that I have seems to have been lost. I have my certificates. When I run tsqlcert - my certificates all show up just fine.

What I am missing is my locations. I know I can recreate them; however, it is a pain to do so. I assume they have to be close enough to the original definitions so that LOTW and DXLabSuite with be able to link them to the databases correctly. I did a complete save of the "Documents and Setting" tqsl folder.

John

=======================================

John Cadick, N5JC

n5jc@...

www.n5jc.com

Yes!

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

AA6YQ comments below

-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of
hambeamtower
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:59 PM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: [dxlab] CBA Lookup for AD1L


Hello

When I attempt to use CBA to lookup AD1L on QRZ.com it fails and locks up
Pathfinder. I get a popup window "No Response from QRZ.com internet
callbook". In Task Manager it shows Pathfinder as 'not responding'
and have to manually close pathfinder and restart it before it works again.
In Pathfinder config I have "{target callsign}".
Clearing the registry settings in Pathfinder, shutting it down and
restarting it has no affect on the problem.

I am using Pathfinder version 4.6.0 which I just recently installed and this
is when the problem started.

I have logged AD1L before and CBA functioned normally.

After searching the messages in the group I could not find anything that
seems to cure the conditon.

QRZ.com can get pretty slow during contest weekends like this one. On the

Callbook tab of DXKeeper's Config window, try increasing the "QRZ.com
timeout" setting to 60.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 14:04, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+++ The user's digital mode app is preceding the AMTOR transmission with a
brief Hellschreiber transmission that identifies the mode in a manner that
any op with a waterfall display can decode; digital mode applications,
however, are not able to decode the information displayed via Hellschreiber.

Ah ha. I saw this once before and it appeared to be a callsign. Interesting.

Yesterday was the first time I spent a significant amount of time
watching the waterfall. PSK is still new to me ... haven't even
transmitted yet ... after many years of RTTY.



--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

+++ AA6YQ comments below

AA6YQ comments below

-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of
StanleyF
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:00 AM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: [dxlab] Memory Problems


When I store FM repeater information in one of the Commander memory
locations, for my IC-7000, and then select it, it does not turn on the TONE
for the PL. Selecting the memory loction on the IC-7000 does.
Any help?

Commander does not record PL tones with its memories.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

re "When presented with a callsign (scenario #1 above), DXView does not
currently perform a callbook lookup or inspect previously logged QSOs with a
specified callsign in order to determine a more accurate location."

However, if you type a callsign into DXKeeper's Capture window and strike
the Enter key, then DXKeeper will inspect previous QSOs (if enabled),
perform a callbook lookup (if enabled), and direct DXView to select that
station's location. In determining the station's location, DXKeeper gives
information extracted from logged QSOs precedence over information obtained
by callbook lookup, and gives information extracted from more recent logged
QSOs precedence over information extracted from less recent logged QSOs.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

AA6YQ comments below

-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of
g4gcl
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:47 AM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: [dxlab] DX View Distances


Hi.
Apologies if this has been covered or answered before but I'm a newbie
to this program.

Could anyone tell me what use the Latitude/Longitude, Distance and Grid
values are in DXView?

DXView lets you select a "location" by

1. typing a prefix fragment or callsign into DXView's Main window; this
selects a location based on prefix and callsign analysis

1a. if the callsign was issued by the US Federal Communications Commission
(FCC) and the USAP database is installed, the location is the center of the
zip code registered as the station location with the FCC

1b. if the station's country unambiguously associates call areas with
geographic regions, a representative location within the callsign's region
will be selected (e.g. Russia, Japan)

1c. otherwise, a representative location within the callsign's country will
be selected


2. clicking on a QSO in DXKeeper's Log Page Display; if the QSO specifies a
grid square then its location will be selected, otherwise callsign analysis
will be used to select a location as described in 1 above


3. double-clicking an entry in SpotCollector's Spot Database Display; if the
entry specifies a grid square then its location will be selected, otherwise
callsign analysis will be used to select a location as described in 1 above


4. specifying an IOTA tag (if the IOTA database is installed)


5. specifying a latitude and longitude


5. specifying a grid square


6. clicking on a location in DXView's world map

The primary uses of a selected location are to

a. aim a directional HF antenna (including the determination of whether
short-path or long-path propagation is more likely)

b. assess the signal path's likely interaction with the auroral zone, the
position of which is estimated based on the K-index provided by
SpotCollector

c. generate an HF propagation forecast using PropView

When presented with a callsign (scenario #1 above), DXView does not

currently perform a callbook lookup or inspect previously logged QSOs with a
specified callsign in order to determine a more accurate location.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

Its the only place to do so!

Danny Douglas
N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at: DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU
CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F
Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do.
Moderator
DXandTALK

Digital_modes

Is this an appropriate list to post enhancements?

Urb, W2DEC

Hello

When I attempt to use CBA to lookup AD1L on QRZ.com it fails and locks up Pathfinder. I get a popup window "No Response from QRZ.com internet callbook". In Task Manager it shows Pathfinder as 'not responding'
and have to manually close pathfinder and restart it before it works again. In Pathfinder config I have "{target callsign}". Clearing the registry settings in Pathfinder, shutting it down and restarting it has no affect on the problem.

I am using Pathfinder version 4.6.0 which I just recently installed and this is when the problem started.

I have logged AD1L before and CBA functioned normally.

After searching the messages in the group I could not find anything that seems to cure the conditon.

73
Bruce VE7BSM

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 18:23, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

Another question - is it WW that prints out things like "AMTOR FEC" on
the waterfall ???

That's WinWarbler decoding someone transmitting in Hellschreiber mode

(abbreviation: Hell). Its not very efficient and you can't capture decoded
text, but it does get your attention and is fairly robust.

Not quite what I saw ... this sounded like AMTOR and at the
bottom/beginning of the trace "AMTOR FEC" printed out perpendicular to
the trace ...


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

Ghost 14 does work on Windows 7, at least it did on the RC version. Ignore the fact that Symantec only claims that it runs on Vista.

However, I have now started using the backup that is an integral part of Windows 7 professional and find it far more reliable than Ghost. Also, now every file on my system has a list of previous versions that can be restored with a couple of clicks. You don't even have to start up the backup program to access backed up previous versions of a file. That backup is available in Windows 7 Home premium but unfortunately that version will not work over a network.

That is one of several reasons why I decided that Windows 7 professional is worth the extra bucks. The other reasons are the ability to host a remote desktop session, a feature that I use daily between my shack computer and my roaming laptop, and Windows Virtual PC.

Microsoft claims that Windows 7 is simpler to use and once you get out of the old Windows XP mind set and stop trying to make things more complicated than they are I think you will agree that it really is simpler.

73, Rich - W3ZJ

John Cadick wrote:

Once again I moved my LoTW certificates from Windows XP to
Windows 7 by copying the entire contents of the entire contents
of Application Data folder and all of it's sub folders from
"Directories and Settings" under Windows XP to
"c:&#92;users&#92;Richard&#92;AppData&#92;Roaming&#92;TrustedQSL". There was
nothing problematic about doing that and it works fine, I
did not use any .P12 files.

The XP "Application Data" folder (actually <user>&#92;Application Data)
is a hidden folder that contains far more than the data for tQSL.
The full XP path for the proper (again, hidden) subfolder is
C:&#92;Documents and Settings&#92;<user>&#92;Application Data&#92;TrustedQSL.

The entire TrustedQSL folder (with all files and subdirectories)
needs to be copied. If the user has not modified the XP system
settings to "unhide" hidden directories, modified Vista/Win 7
to "unhide" the AppData tree, and modified Vista/Win7 to allow
writing to that directory from Explorer, the "copy the directory"
approach to moving tQSL will fail.

Yes, I know that copying the directory will get all certificates
and station location data. However, that is a dangerous "short
cut" for users who may not be computer savvy. Not only can a
mistake result is the loss of certificates, it can damage the
Windows installation.

It has worked every time and got all my certificates in one
operation without the need to fuss with a half dozen .P12
files.

Every LotW user should back up their certificates as *.P12
files every time they get a new or renewed certificate to
prevent their loss - no matter how many other back-ups they
keep.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On
Behalf Of Rich - W3ZJ
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:01 AM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Windows XP to Windows 7


Actually Joe, under Windows 7, the "Documents and Settings" folder
doesn't exist at all in any form. The stuff that used to be
in it is now
in the real folder "C:&#92;users&#92;<username>". There is a new
virtual store
called "Libraries" which can be used to store pointers to any
folder on
the system including those on another machine on the Network.
It's quite
handy for putting those frequently used folders in one quickly
accessible place.

Once again I moved my LoTW certificates from Windows XP to
Windows 7 by
copying the entire contents of the entire contents of
Application Data
folder and all of it's sub folders from "Directories and
Settings" under
Windows XP to "c:&#92;users&#92;Richard&#92;AppData&#92;Roaming&#92;TrustedQSL".
There was
nothing problematic about doing that and it works fine, I did not use
any .P12 files. I know this isn't the recommended procedure but I've
done it a dozen times across different machines and different
operating
systems. It has worked every time and got all my certificates in one
operation without the need to fuss with a half dozen .P12 files.

73, Rich - W3ZJ

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Documents and Settings does not exist (other than as a pointer) in
Vista and Windows 7. It has been replaced by a virtual

store and file

redirection as part of the cursed User Account Control garbage.

Vista/Windows 7 enforces user of the virtual store if UAC

is enabled.

Copying the contents of the old "Documents and Settings"

directory to

the proper location in the Vista/Windows 7 virtual store is
problematic. The PROPER way to move certificates between

systems is

to create a .P12 file using tQSL Cert on the old system and install
that .P12 file (again with tQSL Cert) on the new system. A

.P12 file

contains both parts - the public and private keys - of a

certificate

and can be moved from system to system or installed on multiple
systems. tQSL Cert handles the creation and installation

of the .P12

in the proper directories.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

I'll work on it some more today. The good news is that I do have complete mirror backups of the XP folders. The bad news is the I have changed to Acronis backup for Win 7, because Ghost 14 (my old backup software) doesn't work on Win 7. Ahhhh yes. The joys of Windows. <G>



Thanks for your help.



From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of Rich - W3ZJ
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:59 AM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Windows XP to Windows 7





As long as your copy includes the entire directory structure under
TrustedQSL it should work, but if it doesn't work for some reason then I
hope you have .P12 files for each of your certificates. Otherwise you
are out of luck and will have to obtain new certificates.

I keep full drive image backups on external hard drives so I have copies
of every byte from the old system, in fact, several old systems dating
back several years (high capacity external hard drives are cheap). In
the absence of that you have to hope that you made copies of everything
you need.

73, Rich - W3ZJ

John Cadick wrote:

And that is what I am trying to do. But still with no joy. Of course, my XP no longer exists. So all I have to work with is the copies of the Application Data folder which I did copy and save.

John

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks very much for that Rich.

Obviously because I'm not a DX chaser I'm using the wrong program!

73,
John G4GCL

--- In dxlab@..., Rich - W3ZJ <rich@...> wrote:

While it's true that Lat/Lon, distance and grid, and even beam

heading,

may not be accurate for distances within a few hundred miles. Most of

us

are working DX over distances of several thousand miles to other
countries. Over those distances small inaccuracies of a few hundred
miles are insignificant and the distance etc. calculations are plenty
close enough. In order to eliminate these calculations for local
contacts, Dave would first have to know somehow that the grid locators
are inaccurate and then add additional code to eliminate the
calculations. Since the name of the suite is "DXLab" this doesn't seem
appropriate. Just know that the calculations for relatively local
stations may be inaccurate.

73, Rich - W3ZJ

g4gcl wrote:

Hi.
Apologies if this has been covered or answered before but I'm a

newbie

to this program.

Could anyone tell me what use the Latitude/Longitude, Distance and

Grid

values are in DXView?
I spent the first few days believing them & then I noticed that

everyone

in England has the same location.

I realise that it's a problem with the fact that database says

everyone

in a certain country which does not use a secondary locator

character or

something similar is actually located in the same place but
If that is the case why bother showing it?

Am I missing something obvious, if so I apologise in advance.

73,
John G4GCL (About 137 miles north of London)

When I store FM repeater information in one of the Commander memory locations, for my IC-7000, and then select it, it does not turn on the TONE for the PL. Selecting the memory loction on the IC-7000 does.
Any help?
Stan

As long as your copy includes the entire directory structure under TrustedQSL it should work, but if it doesn't work for some reason then I hope you have .P12 files for each of your certificates. Otherwise you are out of luck and will have to obtain new certificates.

I keep full drive image backups on external hard drives so I have copies of every byte from the old system, in fact, several old systems dating back several years (high capacity external hard drives are cheap). In the absence of that you have to hope that you made copies of everything you need.

73, Rich - W3ZJ

John Cadick wrote: