Re: Config panel of DXKeeper
Hi Pete!
I couldn't find where you turn sections on and off in config. It is a set of checkboxes on the Log QSO's tab. I wish I could send you a screenshot - I have my sections oriented vertically so the section checkboxes are to the right of the "QSO" box. Checking/unchecking is remembered for me.
73
-Brian n8wrl
Today I noticed that my
DXKeeper's Log QSO was displaying the Auxiliary panel, which I
do not use.? I went to Config and unchecked that panel, and it was fine until I
closed DXKeeper and restarted - it was back again.? Have I
missed a step?? Is there something I have to do to make Config
changes stick?
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73, Pete N4ZR
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Today I noticed that my
DXKeeper's Log QSO was displaying the Auxiliary panel, which I
do not use.? I went to Config and unchecked that panel, and it was fine until I
closed DXKeeper and restarted - it was back again.? Have I
missed a step?? Is there something I have to do to make Config
changes stick?
--
73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: LOTW - unable to contact server
Curt, are you aware
that LOTW has been down for a month due to a hack?
73, Pete N4ZR
On 6/18/2024 3:44 PM, Brian Smithson
via groups.io wrote:
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Curt, what do you mean by bootup time? What
specifically?takes 1 min 49 seconds?
-Brian n8wrl
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at
3:09?PM Curt Bowles via <curt.bowles= [email protected]>
wrote:
I
notice this right away it increased my bootup time from ~1 min
& 49 sec to ~3 Min .22 sec.? I also noticed a window
called C:\Program Files (x86)\TrustedQSL\TQSL.exe stayed
opened until it timed out. That msg lead me to? the path name
C:\Program Files (x86)\TrustedQSL\tqsl.exe into the LOTW
DXK QSL Configuration Panel/ TQSL and I deleted the pathname
after noting it down but your approach was even
simpler...dah!?
--
Curt Bowles
VE3ZN
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Re: LOTW - unable to contact server
Curt, what do you mean by bootup time? What specifically?takes 1 min 49 seconds?
-Brian n8wrl
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 3:09?PM Curt Bowles via <curt.bowles= [email protected]> wrote: I notice this right away it increased my bootup time from ~1 min & 49 sec to ~3 Min .22 sec.? I also noticed a window called C:\Program Files (x86)\TrustedQSL\TQSL.exe stayed opened until it timed out. That msg lead me to? the path name C:\Program Files (x86)\TrustedQSL\tqsl.exe into the LOTW DXK QSL Configuration Panel/ TQSL and I deleted the pathname after noting it down but your approach was even simpler...dah!?
--
Curt Bowles
VE3ZN
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Re: LOTW - unable to contact server
I notice this right away it increased my bootup time from ~1 min & 49 sec to ~3 Min .22 sec.? I also noticed a window called C:\Program Files (x86)\TrustedQSL\TQSL.exe stayed opened until it timed out. That msg lead me to? the path name C:\Program Files (x86)\TrustedQSL\tqsl.exe into the LOTW DXK QSL Configuration Panel/ TQSL and I deleted the pathname after noting it down but your approach was even simpler...dah!?
--
Curt Bowles
VE3ZN
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
I’m not a database guy, but know it’s possible to have many users on one database and everyone gets updated. (Think Google docs, contest logging, to minimize dupes.)
That would apply to all apps/players on the field. Yeah it could add a lot of network time to keep everyone current. If all of the ops running a station were not on the LAN; it could be slow going.
So I agree, but I don’t care how it gets done, so one can have more than one active station node and everything gets updates in real time.
One method I have seen/used, is FDLog (contest-ware) where each node, has the COMPLETE log and updates happen near instantly (TCP/IP), which works but seems overkill too.
73,
Rick nk7i
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On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:43?AM, Joe Subich, W4TV via groups.io <lists@...> wrote:
It would be very handy if DXKeeper had the ability to open a
remote log in "read only" and use TCP/IP commands (the same
commands used by WSJTX/JTAlert) to log new QSOs to that remote
log (via a copy of DXKeeper running on the remote system).
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
On 6/18/2024 1:08 PM, Dave w6de wrote: Both DXView and Spot Collector use the Master Database (Logbook). Both of these and DXKeeper have to be shut down when you switch between computers. DXView will only use the log specified by DXKeeper on the local machine as it has no provision to define the log's location (or which log to use). SpotCollector will use a log located on another computer (specified in "Use Log in specified pathname" on SC's Config -> General tab). I regularly run a second copy of SC on my "office" computer with it referencing the open log on my ham shack computer. It would be very handy if DXKeeper had the ability to open a remote log in "read only" and use TCP/IP commands (the same commands used by WSJTX/JTAlert) to log new QSOs to that remote log (via a copy of DXKeeper running on the remote system). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/18/2024 1:08 PM, Dave w6de wrote: Both DXView and Spot Collector use the Master Database (Logbook). Both of these and DXKeeper have to be shut down when you switch between computers.
73,
Dave, w6de
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck, WS1L via groups.io
Sent: 18 June, 2024 11:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DXLab] Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a laptop at one of my other radios. I installed only Launcher and DXKeeper, and pointed it to my log in OneDrive. Before I started DXKeeper on the laptop I shut it down on the desktop.
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it, everything appeared normal. I made two QSOs and logged them. Then I shut down DXKeeper on the laptop and moved over to the main position, where I opened DXKeeper on the desktop. The two laptop QSOs were not in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop, then shut down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop. I started DXKeeper on the laptop and the morning desktop QSOs were not in that log.
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper and again it only had the desktop QSOs on it. I closed the desktop DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw it was still uploading after several minutes. Knowing the SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then closed SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not installed on the laptop, I had been using the webserver to look at spots from the desktop on the laptop.
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in OneDrive but it complained that there were now two versions of the file.
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop log, so my log is correct. No worries there. I did read the wiki on using two PCs, and it only mentioned being sure to only have one instance of DXKeeper active at a time. Is there a similar need to only have one instance of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my log via multiple computers? My shack has three operating positions and one of them is far enough away from the screen, keyboard and mouse that I had been using remote desktop software to log but rendering the desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on the eyes. Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log from that position.
73 de Chuck, WS1L
chandlerusm@...<mailto:chandlerusm@...>
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
I use ONE drive for my log file for
DXLABS, but you have to make sure ALL dxlabs are shutdown on one
computer before starting up DXLabs on another computer, and give
ONEDrive time to finish syncing the files.
? I have about 4 computers that I use
DXLabs on, you just have to be sure the syncing is done before
starting DXLabs.
Right now I'm using DXLabs on a laptop
out in CA, but use the same log that is on the home computer, has
worked fine for years, with a few hic-ups when I forgot to shut
down one DXLabs before starting another.?
Gordon - N1MGO
On 6/18/2024 7:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L via
groups.io wrote:
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Yesterday I tried to access my log on a laptop at
one of my other radios.? I installed only Launcher and DXKeeper,
and pointed it to my log in OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper
on the laptop I shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it, everything
appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and logged them.? Then I
shut down DXKeeper on the laptop and moved over to the main
position, where I opened DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two
laptop QSOs were not in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop, then shut
down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I started DXKeeper on
the laptop and the morning desktop QSOs were not in that
log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the desktop,
started the desktop DXKeeper and again it only had the desktop
QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw it was
still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing the
SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then closed
SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not installed on the
laptop, I had been using the webserver to look at spots from
the desktop on the laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in OneDrive
but it complained that there were now two versions of the
file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop log, so
my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did read the wiki on
using two PCs, and it only mentioned being sure to only have
one instance of DXKeeper active at a time.? Is there a similar
need to only have one instance of SpotCollector running as
well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my log via
multiple computers?? My shack has three operating positions
and one of them is far enough away from the screen, keyboard
and mouse that I had been using remote desktop software to log
but rendering the desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on
the eyes.? Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log
from that position.??
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
Both DXView and Spot Collector use the Master Database (Logbook).?
Both of these and DXKeeper have to be shut down when you switch between computers.
73,
Dave, w6de
?
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From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck, WS1L via groups.io
Sent: 18 June, 2024 11:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DXLab] Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
?
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a laptop at one of my other radios.? I installed only Launcher and DXKeeper, and pointed it to my log in OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper on the laptop I shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it, everything appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and logged them.? Then I shut down DXKeeper on the laptop and moved over to the main position, where I opened DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two
laptop QSOs were not in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop, then shut down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I started DXKeeper on the laptop and the morning desktop QSOs were not in that log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper and again it only had the desktop QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw it was still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing the SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then closed SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not installed on the laptop, I had been
using the webserver to look at spots from the desktop on the laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in OneDrive but it complained that there were now two versions of the file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop log, so my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did read the wiki on using two PCs, and it only mentioned being sure to only have one instance of DXKeeper active at a time.? Is there a
similar need to only have one instance of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my log via multiple computers?? My shack has three operating positions and one of them is far enough away from the screen, keyboard and mouse that I had been using remote desktop software
to log but rendering the desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on the eyes.? Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log from that position.??
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
Perhaps you want to set up a NAS (I use Synology) on your
station/home network.? It can be your personal cloud server while
you're away and accessed on your LAN.? In that way, your log is
correctly updated.? (As well as other significant uses, like
backing up other computers/drives etc.)
It means that your files are under your control and far less
likely to be snooped on (Amazon, Google, Apple, MS etc) if
personal security is on your mind.? It is more self reliant, not
trusting some corporation to decide what is proper for you.
Then all you have to ensure is that the transmitter location is
logged correctly if not the home station (are you local or
operating remotely, or as DX under your call, modified?).
I have three operating positions at home, using precisely the
same logbook file.? I only use one node at a time, so far so there
is no software conflict.? Should I operate not remotely but away;
I can access the NAS remotely or incorporate the new log entries
later (an option, if I'm not on the internet).? That change takes
but moments in the config on the disconnected node.
It presumes also that your home (and remote) internet access
stays up 24/7/365 (most do).
That's where I'm evolving to now; leaving the backup files on the
station node in use (the shack computer, laptop, desktop,
whatever).? Reading through the documentation should help advise
you.
I also back up the NAS on rotating drives, each stored off site
but easily reached (suspenders for the belt).? As I live in a
wildfire zone, grabbing that external backup drive is part of the
escape plan, if needed along with my go bag etc.
WIRE the NAS to the router, not wifi (slower by a factor of 10 or
more).
There are simple solutions to a NAS depending on your needs, I
went with a 4 drive, 10 TB hot switchable (and have a spare drive
on hand, total cost $1500).? A NAS may also be other servers for
your use (pop/smtp, web, ftp etc) without having to muck with
Windoze or Mac 'stuff'.? To the OS, it's just another drive.
There is a small learning curve in finding the right NAS solution
for you and some setup (which RAID or proprietary format?).
73,
Rick nk7i
On 6/18/2024 6:36 AM, Chuck, WS1L via
groups.io wrote:
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My hope is to be able to have it available in a
remote environment in the future.? That would allow me to
remotely control my radio and have log access at a remote site.?
That would require a cloud-based log file somehow.??
I may try keeping the working database on the shack desktop
and share that directory via DDNS.? That's my next experiment.
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
Keeping the log local means in the future I can just run what I need locally - rig software, log, some kind of cluster.??
I can access the log on the home server side by using remote desktop software but the result is a big shack screen rendered on a small laptop screen.? Difficult to work with, and full of nice to have but not critical parts.
In that case, yes it should work.
just make sure that you shutdown dxlab totally and that onedrive has
synced before starting the other machine.
I believe there are some settings with onedrive which can affect the
sync.
But then again, if you are remotely controlling the rig, why does
the log have to be local?
On 6/18/2024 8:36 AM, Chuck, WS1L
wrote:
My hope is to be able to have it available in a
remote environment in the future.? That would allow me to
remotely control my radio and have log access at a remote site.?
That would require a cloud-based log file somehow.??
I may try keeping the working database on the shack desktop
and share that directory via DDNS.? That's my next experiment.
I didn't say you couldn't, I am saying it may not be the
best...
What happens if your internet goes down?
On 6/18/2024 7:15 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:
I have always thought that hosting my log
on OneDrive was not the way to go, and as documented
elsewhere I've configured DXKeeper to back up my log to
OneDrive each time it exists.
But this article seems to suggest OneDrive should
be ok?
73
-Brian n8wrl
One drive may not be the best place to have your
"operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be
better utilizing a local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log
on a laptop at one of my other radios.? I
installed only Launcher and DXKeeper, and
pointed it to my log in OneDrive.? Before I
started DXKeeper on the laptop I shut it down on
the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened
it, everything appeared normal.? I made two
QSOs and logged them.? Then I shut down
DXKeeper on the laptop and moved over to the
main position, where I opened DXKeeper on the
desktop.? The two laptop QSOs were not in the
log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the
desktop, then shut down DXKeeper and moved to
the laptop.? I started DXKeeper on the laptop
and the morning desktop QSOs were not in that
log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back
to the desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper
and again it only had the desktop QSOs on it.?
I closed the desktop DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray
and saw it was still uploading after several
minutes.? Knowing the SpotCollector also
refers to the log, I then closed SpotCollector
on the desktop - it was not installed on the
laptop, I had been using the webserver to look
at spots from the desktop on the laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to
sync in OneDrive but it complained that there
were now two versions of the file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the
desktop log, so my log is correct.? No worries
there.? I did read the wiki on using two PCs,
and it only mentioned being sure to only have
one instance of DXKeeper active at a time.? Is
there a similar need to only have one instance
of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for
accessing my log via multiple computers?? My
shack has three operating positions and one of
them is far enough away from the screen,
keyboard and mouse that I had been using
remote desktop software to log but rendering
the desktops big screen on my laptop is hard
on the eyes.? Running DXKeeper alone would be
a better way to log from that position.??
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
The problem isn't real-time syncing - the OP isn't trying to do that - rather, the problem is OneDrive (and other sync-ing mechanisms) need to lock the file to read it without corrupting it. Databases like the one DXLab depends on don't like that.
73
-Brian n8wrl
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:20?AM Bruce - K5WBM via <bruce.mclain= [email protected]> wrote: I have heard that One Drive does a poor job syncing files real time.? It might be worth trying Google Drive which I have heard is much better.
Bruce - K5WBM ? My hope is to be able to have it available in a remote environment in the future.? That would allow me to remotely control my radio and have log access at a remote site.? That would require a cloud-based log file somehow.??
I may try keeping the working database on the shack desktop and share that directory via DDNS.? That's my next experiment.
I didn't say you couldn't, I am saying it may not be the best...
What happens if your internet goes down?
On 6/18/2024 7:15 AM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
I have always thought that hosting my log on
OneDrive was not the way to go, and as documented elsewhere I've
configured DXKeeper to back up my log to OneDrive each time it
exists.
But this article seems to suggest OneDrive should be ok?
73
-Brian n8wrl
One drive may not be the best place to have your
"operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be better
utilizing a local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a
laptop at one of my other radios.? I installed only
Launcher and DXKeeper, and pointed it to my log in
OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper on the laptop I
shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it,
everything appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and
logged them.? Then I shut down DXKeeper on the laptop
and moved over to the main position, where I opened
DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two laptop QSOs were not
in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop,
then shut down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I
started DXKeeper on the laptop and the morning desktop
QSOs were not in that log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the
desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper and again it
only had the desktop QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop
DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw
it was still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing
the SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then
closed SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not
installed on the laptop, I had been using the
webserver to look at spots from the desktop on the
laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in
OneDrive but it complained that there were now two
versions of the file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop
log, so my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did
read the wiki on using two PCs, and it only mentioned
being sure to only have one instance of DXKeeper
active at a time.? Is there a similar need to only
have one instance of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my
log via multiple computers?? My shack has three
operating positions and one of them is far enough away
from the screen, keyboard and mouse that I had been
using remote desktop software to log but rendering the
desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on the eyes.?
Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log
from that position.??
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<>
works fine from here.
If necessary go to and
enter "moving" in the search box at the upper right and
click "Titles". The second item found will be the one you
want.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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On 6/18/2024 9:46 AM, gfmucci via groups.io wrote: I must be blind, too.? I get a "does not exist" page.
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
I have heard that One Drive does a poor job syncing files real time. ?It might be worth trying Google Drive which I have heard is much better.
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On Jun 18, 2024, at 8:36?AM, Chuck, WS1L via groups.io <chandlerusm@...> wrote:
? My hope is to be able to have it available in a remote environment in the future.? That would allow me to remotely control my radio and have log access at a remote site.? That would require a cloud-based log file somehow.??
I may try keeping the working database on the shack desktop and share that directory via DDNS.? That's my next experiment.
I didn't say you couldn't, I am saying it may not be the best...
What happens if your internet goes down?
On 6/18/2024 7:15 AM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
I have always thought that hosting my log on
OneDrive was not the way to go, and as documented elsewhere I've
configured DXKeeper to back up my log to OneDrive each time it
exists.
But this article seems to suggest OneDrive should be ok?
73
-Brian n8wrl
One drive may not be the best place to have your
"operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be better
utilizing a local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a
laptop at one of my other radios.? I installed only
Launcher and DXKeeper, and pointed it to my log in
OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper on the laptop I
shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it,
everything appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and
logged them.? Then I shut down DXKeeper on the laptop
and moved over to the main position, where I opened
DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two laptop QSOs were not
in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop,
then shut down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I
started DXKeeper on the laptop and the morning desktop
QSOs were not in that log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the
desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper and again it
only had the desktop QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop
DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw
it was still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing
the SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then
closed SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not
installed on the laptop, I had been using the
webserver to look at spots from the desktop on the
laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in
OneDrive but it complained that there were now two
versions of the file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop
log, so my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did
read the wiki on using two PCs, and it only mentioned
being sure to only have one instance of DXKeeper
active at a time.? Is there a similar need to only
have one instance of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my
log via multiple computers?? My shack has three
operating positions and one of them is far enough away
from the screen, keyboard and mouse that I had been
using remote desktop software to log but rendering the
desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on the eyes.?
Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log
from that position.??
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
In that case, yes it should work.
just make sure that you shutdown dxlab totally and that onedrive has
synced before starting the other machine.
I believe there are some settings with onedrive which can affect the
sync.
But then again, if you are remotely controlling the rig, why does
the log have to be local?
On 6/18/2024 8:36 AM, Chuck, WS1L
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
My hope is to be able to have it available in a
remote environment in the future.? That would allow me to
remotely control my radio and have log access at a remote site.?
That would require a cloud-based log file somehow.??
I may try keeping the working database on the shack desktop
and share that directory via DDNS.? That's my next experiment.
I didn't say you couldn't, I am saying it may not be the
best...
What happens if your internet goes down?
On 6/18/2024 7:15 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:
I have always thought that hosting my log
on OneDrive was not the way to go, and as documented
elsewhere I've configured DXKeeper to back up my log to
OneDrive each time it exists.
But this article seems to suggest OneDrive should
be ok?
73
-Brian n8wrl
One drive may not be the best place to have your
"operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be
better utilizing a local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log
on a laptop at one of my other radios.? I
installed only Launcher and DXKeeper, and
pointed it to my log in OneDrive.? Before I
started DXKeeper on the laptop I shut it down on
the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened
it, everything appeared normal.? I made two
QSOs and logged them.? Then I shut down
DXKeeper on the laptop and moved over to the
main position, where I opened DXKeeper on the
desktop.? The two laptop QSOs were not in the
log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the
desktop, then shut down DXKeeper and moved to
the laptop.? I started DXKeeper on the laptop
and the morning desktop QSOs were not in that
log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back
to the desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper
and again it only had the desktop QSOs on it.?
I closed the desktop DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray
and saw it was still uploading after several
minutes.? Knowing the SpotCollector also
refers to the log, I then closed SpotCollector
on the desktop - it was not installed on the
laptop, I had been using the webserver to look
at spots from the desktop on the laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to
sync in OneDrive but it complained that there
were now two versions of the file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the
desktop log, so my log is correct.? No worries
there.? I did read the wiki on using two PCs,
and it only mentioned being sure to only have
one instance of DXKeeper active at a time.? Is
there a similar need to only have one instance
of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for
accessing my log via multiple computers?? My
shack has three operating positions and one of
them is far enough away from the screen,
keyboard and mouse that I had been using
remote desktop software to log but rendering
the desktops big screen on my laptop is hard
on the eyes.? Running DXKeeper alone would be
a better way to log from that position.??
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
My hope is to be able to have it available in a remote environment in the future.? That would allow me to remotely control my radio and have log access at a remote site.? That would require a cloud-based log file somehow.??
I may try keeping the working database on the shack desktop and share that directory via DDNS.? That's my next experiment.
I didn't say you couldn't, I am saying it may not be the best...
What happens if your internet goes down?
On 6/18/2024 7:15 AM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
I have always thought that hosting my log on
OneDrive was not the way to go, and as documented elsewhere I've
configured DXKeeper to back up my log to OneDrive each time it
exists.
But this article seems to suggest OneDrive should be ok?
73
-Brian n8wrl
One drive may not be the best place to have your
"operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be better
utilizing a local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a
laptop at one of my other radios.? I installed only
Launcher and DXKeeper, and pointed it to my log in
OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper on the laptop I
shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it,
everything appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and
logged them.? Then I shut down DXKeeper on the laptop
and moved over to the main position, where I opened
DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two laptop QSOs were not
in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop,
then shut down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I
started DXKeeper on the laptop and the morning desktop
QSOs were not in that log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the
desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper and again it
only had the desktop QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop
DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw
it was still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing
the SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then
closed SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not
installed on the laptop, I had been using the
webserver to look at spots from the desktop on the
laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in
OneDrive but it complained that there were now two
versions of the file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop
log, so my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did
read the wiki on using two PCs, and it only mentioned
being sure to only have one instance of DXKeeper
active at a time.? Is there a similar need to only
have one instance of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my
log via multiple computers?? My shack has three
operating positions and one of them is far enough away
from the screen, keyboard and mouse that I had been
using remote desktop software to log but rendering the
desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on the eyes.?
Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log
from that position.??
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
I didn't say you couldn't, I am saying it may not be the best...
What happens if your internet goes down?
On 6/18/2024 7:15 AM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
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I have always thought that hosting my log on
OneDrive was not the way to go, and as documented elsewhere I've
configured DXKeeper to back up my log to OneDrive each time it
exists.
But this article seems to suggest OneDrive should be ok?
73
-Brian n8wrl
One drive may not be the best place to have your
"operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be better
utilizing a local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a
laptop at one of my other radios.? I installed only
Launcher and DXKeeper, and pointed it to my log in
OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper on the laptop I
shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it,
everything appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and
logged them.? Then I shut down DXKeeper on the laptop
and moved over to the main position, where I opened
DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two laptop QSOs were not
in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop,
then shut down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I
started DXKeeper on the laptop and the morning desktop
QSOs were not in that log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the
desktop, started the desktop DXKeeper and again it
only had the desktop QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop
DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw
it was still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing
the SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then
closed SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not
installed on the laptop, I had been using the
webserver to look at spots from the desktop on the
laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in
OneDrive but it complained that there were now two
versions of the file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop
log, so my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did
read the wiki on using two PCs, and it only mentioned
being sure to only have one instance of DXKeeper
active at a time.? Is there a similar need to only
have one instance of SpotCollector running as well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my
log via multiple computers?? My shack has three
operating positions and one of them is far enough away
from the screen, keyboard and mouse that I had been
using remote desktop software to log but rendering the
desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on the eyes.?
Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log
from that position.??
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The sorting with Excel is exactly what I want! Instead of several hundred line items to go through I have about 30!
The other was just -- dreaming, I guess.
Thanks, Dave!
Earl / KD5XB
Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
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On Tuesday, June 18th, 2024 at 12:02 AM, Dave AA6YQ via groups.io <aa6yq@...> wrote: + AA6YQ comments below
Is there any way to change the sort order in the FFMA report?
+ Not by using DXKeeper. You could open the FFMA report with EXCEL (use the "fixed width" option), and then sort it as desired.
I'd like to have it in reverse DATE order so I could update the new grids I have worked since updating the FFMA spreadsheet.
Come to think of it, it might be helpful if I had the option of showing the grids I haven't worked in the FFMA report, too.
+ Keeping track of unworked/worked/confirmed grids for the FFMA award is tantamount to providing realtime award tracking - a significant development effort not justified by the relatively low level of interest in this award expressed here.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
I have always thought that hosting my log on OneDrive was not the way to go, and as documented elsewhere I've configured DXKeeper to back up my log to OneDrive each time it exists.
But this article seems to suggest OneDrive should be ok?
73
-Brian n8wrl
One drive may not be the best place to have your "operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be better utilizing a
local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L
wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a laptop at
one of my other radios.? I installed only Launcher and DXKeeper,
and pointed it to my log in OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper
on the laptop I shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it, everything
appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and logged them.? Then I
shut down DXKeeper on the laptop and moved over to the main
position, where I opened DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two
laptop QSOs were not in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop, then shut
down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I started DXKeeper on
the laptop and the morning desktop QSOs were not in that
log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the desktop,
started the desktop DXKeeper and again it only had the desktop
QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw it was
still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing the
SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then closed
SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not installed on the
laptop, I had been using the webserver to look at spots from
the desktop on the laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in OneDrive
but it complained that there were now two versions of the
file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop log, so
my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did read the wiki on
using two PCs, and it only mentioned being sure to only have
one instance of DXKeeper active at a time.? Is there a similar
need to only have one instance of SpotCollector running as
well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my log via
multiple computers?? My shack has three operating positions
and one of them is far enough away from the screen, keyboard
and mouse that I had been using remote desktop software to log
but rendering the desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on
the eyes.? Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log
from that position.??
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Re: Accessing Log on two computers - unexpected behavior
One drive may not be the best place to have your "operational" log
it is an ok place to keep a backup.
With what it appears you want to do, it would be better utilizing a
local network drive for the log.
On 6/18/2024 6:46 AM, Chuck, WS1L
wrote:
Yesterday I tried to access my log on a laptop at
one of my other radios.? I installed only Launcher and DXKeeper,
and pointed it to my log in OneDrive.? Before I started DXKeeper
on the laptop I shut it down on the desktop.??
DXKeeper started fine, found my log, opened it, everything
appeared normal.? I made two QSOs and logged them.? Then I
shut down DXKeeper on the laptop and moved over to the main
position, where I opened DXKeeper on the desktop.? The two
laptop QSOs were not in the log.
This morning I logged a few QSOs on the desktop, then shut
down DXKeeper and moved to the laptop.? I started DXKeeper on
the laptop and the morning desktop QSOs were not in that
log.??
I shut down the laptop DXKeeper, went back to the desktop,
started the desktop DXKeeper and again it only had the desktop
QSOs on it.? I closed the desktop DXKeeper.
I opened the OneDrive from the system tray and saw it was
still uploading after several minutes.? Knowing the
SpotCollector also refers to the log, I then closed
SpotCollector on the desktop - it was not installed on the
laptop, I had been using the webserver to look at spots from
the desktop on the laptop.? ?
Closing SpotCollector allowed the log to sync in OneDrive
but it complained that there were now two versions of the
file.??
I've exported the two laptop QSOs into the desktop log, so
my log is correct.? No worries there.? I did read the wiki on
using two PCs, and it only mentioned being sure to only have
one instance of DXKeeper active at a time.? Is there a similar
need to only have one instance of SpotCollector running as
well?
Are there any other best practices for accessing my log via
multiple computers?? My shack has three operating positions
and one of them is far enough away from the screen, keyboard
and mouse that I had been using remote desktop software to log
but rendering the desktops big screen on my laptop is hard on
the eyes.? Running DXKeeper alone would be a better way to log
from that position.??
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Rick nk7i
Chuck, WS1L