Hi friends. My name is Karen and I'm Gary's wife. I've done something
that isn't right and so I wanted to apologize for it and ask to join
in posting on this group as a way of possibly working it out. I
posted a message, which I said was anyonymous, on another board
called trcm, that contained factual information about the popularity
of Gary's book. I realize it was wrong to do this, even though what
the message said was true and even though it is a habit of many of
the people at that group to post using pseudo names. I also posted
there around April using my maiden name, without pointing out that I
was Gary's wife. D. Patrick Miller of Fearless Books, who is Gary's
publisher, was informed by Gary of my latest posting after I told
Gary. (I only told him after he asked me about it.) Patrick has told
Gary that he will explain the situation to the people at trcm. I
thought it was only fair to Gary that I do so here. Gary has never
posted using a pseudo name, and I have only done so in the instances
just described. Also, as far as I know, Gary has never said anything
that wasn't true in any posting, ever. Neither have I, except for the
name situation just described. I'm sorry for doing something so
stupid. I didn't think that the partly hostile crowd at trcm would
believe what I was saying if they knew I was Gary's wife, and I have
been too anxious to try to help him. I hope Gary will see this as a
call for help (knowing him, he probably will.) And I hope it will be
all right with you if I post here from time to time as a way of
joining. Love and thanks, Karen.

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Hi everyone. I'd like to thank all of you, including Linda,
Martha, Ossie, Jim and Bill, for your wonderful postings. I don't
think it's very difficult to determine which thought system, love or
fear, is being expressed by a person when they post a message here.
As for Karen, my overly-supportive wife (LOL) I'd like to offer the
same quotation from the Course (Text P.88) that Pursah spoke to me on
P.211-212 of "Disappearance" - because it truly expresses how I feel
about the whole situation, and how I like to feel about myself.

(Pursah:) You've accused and convicted yourself. But now, think
of the Holy Spirit as being like a Higher Court, as the Course
describes with these great words:

You need not fear the Higher Court will condemn you. It will
merely dismiss the case against you. There can be no case against a
child of God, and every witness to guilt in God's creations is
bearing false witness to God Himself. Appeal everything you believe
gladly to God's Own Higher Court, because it speaks for Him and
therefore speaks truly. It will dismiss the case against you, however
carefully you have built it up. The case may be fool-proof, but it is
not God-proof. The Holy Spirit will not hear it, because He can only
witness truly. His verdict will always be "thine is the Kingdom,"
because He was given to you to remind you of what you are.

Hi Karen,

Welcome aboard! ?Your straightforwardness here is noted and appreciated.

To me, there's a big difference between being intentionally "deceptive" and merely "not fully disclosed"... which is how I would see the situation of using other than your full name on a message board. But that's a practice that's certainly quite common, here in cyber-land; so I think it boils down to whether the information posted is accurate or not, and if it is, then using a nickname or maiden name is hardly a high crime.....

As far as the "hostility" you mentioned, coming from certain other folks and groups; that's something I really have a tough time figuring out, too -- why people get all pissed off at you, and then REMAIN that way, even after you've explained the source of the misunderstanding... ?I mean, if it's something wrong that I really did, I can understand their being mad... but when I've simply been misunderstood, and I have clearly explained the errors in their perception -- and they STILL remain upset with me -- yes, I know it's a wonderful opportunity for me to practice advanced forgiveness, and let it go, and forgive what never happened... ?And I do! I really do, more and more all the time.... ?Still, there seems to be a part of me that just wants to know, "why?"...

Ahh... ?the mysteries of life, in ego-land!

On a personal note: boy, it must be "interesting" (and I mean that both seriously as well as sarcastically) being married to Gary, huh? ?When you get a moment, give us all some juicy details... ??(Kidding, Gary, I'm kidding!) ?But truly, I'm sure you'll have plenty of insights that will be of benefit to us all.

Thanks for writing what was in some ways, I'm sure, a difficult post. ?I'm certain you will find it to have been worth the effort; and again, welcome!

Love & Bliss,

Gene

In a message dated 7/9/2003 2:29:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, nashandfam@... writes:

I
posted a message, which I said was anyonymous, on another board
called trcm, that contained factual information about the
popularity

LOL I have lost track of how many names I have used online. Yes sometimes it is hard to keep up with my own self.

As they say ... "don't sweat the small stuff"

Welcome Aboard

Ossie

"Ideas Leave Not Their Source"

-Hi Karen.... FA-GED-ABOUT-IT!!! (I hope that looks like something
from The Sopranos) :) That sounds just like something I would do.
Gary's book is funny, informative, inspiring and thought provoking
and that is all that matters.

I hope you won't let a few unhappy people who are calling for love
ruin even one night's sleep!

Blessings and welcome.
Suzanne

In a message dated 7/9/2003 5:04:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, gene@... writes:

As far as the "hostility" you mentioned, coming from certain other folks and groups; that's something I really have a tough time figuring out, too -- why people get all pissed off
at you,

Oh come on Gene, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figured that one out. LOL

The nature of the holy spirt is to extend and the ego projects guilt ... and there are plenty of victims to project on their guilt and attack on.

So someone has a gripe brewing inside of them ... then they find a place like this to project it out on ... just waiting and hoping that someone will take the bait.

Anyone want to play catch?

And depending on the bait ... some are very difficult to ignore.

This reminds me of the movie with Eddie Murphy .. Nutty Professor 2 where he is a combination human being and a dog ...

Even though he looks like a human being, he has the instincts of the dog and when a ball is thrown, he quickly reverts to his dog like state and runs after the ball ... forgetting that he is in human form.


LOL

"Ideas Leave Not Their Source"

Hi again everyone. I just wanted to thank all of you, especially
Linda, Martha, Gene, Ossie, Suzanne and of course Gary for welcoming
me and making me feel right at home. You people are sweethearts, and
the love that shows up all through your postings speaks for itself.
Love and Blessings, Karen.

Also, as far as I know, Gary has never said anything

that wasn't true in any posting, ever. Neither have I, except for

the

name situation just described. I'm sorry for doing something so
stupid. I didn't think that the partly hostile crowd at trcm would
believe what I was saying if they knew I was Gary's wife, and I

have

been too anxious to try to help him.

You never said anything that wasn't true, except making out you
were "Zak" and at Endeaver Academy. And that Ted would back this up
if asked.

"I'm posting anonymously for personal reasons, but I just wanted to
jump in and say we have over a hundred copies of "The Disappearance of
the Universe" at and around Endeavor Academy. People here love it, and
they're getting a lot out of it. The same thing is happening at Byron
Bay in Australia. Ask anyone, including Ted Poppe, who's back in the
States. This book has got something. Is it for everyone? No. Is
anything? But people are seeing the Holy Spirit in this book. Peace
out, Zak."

When you posted before as Karen Winston, you assured everyone you
had no connection with Gary or Fearless publishing and were just an
impartial reader who thought the book was wonderful. And had left
feedback at Amazon, saying this (and not saying you were Gary's wife
here, either)

I would say that was another situation where you used a different
name to disguise yourself and who you were, so as to appear objective
about the book.

After you were busted, due to having the same IP number as
Gary,you then apologized to us "partly hostile crowd" and this was
warmly accepted. Remember? Everyone rushed to assure you they
understood, you wanted to defend Gary and his book (does
anyone/anything really need defending?) and you were welcome to
continue posting there are you "real self".

You choose not to.

Until posting as Zak- who is at Endeaver Academy.

The only stupid part of this is you still posted using the same
IP number, that came back to Lewiston Maine. Even though Patrick the
publisher tried to convince us that it was an AOL proxy. Even though
you have adelphia and not AOL

And you apparently used Gary's email address with it (massguy8)

As one of the partly hostile people from the trcm newsgroup
(which is unmoderated and everyone is free to say whatever they want,
and deal with what they might get back) I wanted to give the other
side of this.

Just to set the record straight.

People do use screen names on the newsgroup, some feel better
guarding their privacy on the internet, but they don't usually lie
and pretend they are someone else.

Maybe the fact you have done this more than once, and would never
have admitted it or apologize to anyone for it, if you hadn't been
caught, is why people MIGHT seem a partly hostile to you?

But, from what I've seen, people on trcm have always been
forgiving, kind and understanding towards you.

And as to them debating about Gary and the book... it's a
discussion board. The subject of the book and sample of it was
brought on there by D.Patrick Miller, the publisher, in the first
place.

If you don't want to know what people really think about
something, and don't want questions and the risk that some might not
like it (while just as many loved it, and are still saying this)
don't being it up for discussion.

Oh, yeah, I joined this newsgroup after Jeanette gave the link to
it, which we before your Zak- game came out.

So I didn't purposely join it to follow you here and yell at you.

Gary offered to send me the book, and I'm waiting to get it,
before getting into any discussions about it here.

That is if what people write here as their honest feelings,
thoughts and opinions gets to stay on and not deleted. If there's no
free and honest discussion here, it's a waste of time, and not a
realy discussion.

~ Carrie (one of the horrible-hostile newsgroup people)

Hi Carrie. Just a reminder. I told you that if you wanted that copy
of the book you should e-mail Patrick and give him your address so he
can send it to you. If you've already done that, then I'm sure it's
on the way. If not, then please do so. Love and peace, Gary.