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A Tale of Two TR7s
It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. I had been off the air for 35 years. I purchased the complete station of a silent key that included a TR7 (serial #3900). I worked 49 states and 39 countries with that radio as I slowly acquired the rest of the equipment which today makes up my Drake 7-line station. Then, the display went haywire. Thinking this would be a good time to get the rig ¡°spec¡¯d up¡±, I sent it to a recognized Drake ¡°guru¡±, who worked on it and pronounced it ¡°good¡±. Sadly, it was not and after two more attempts, one of which involved driving to his residence with all of my gear, I gave up. Fortunately, I came across The Radiosmith online and sent ¡°3900¡± to him. Here¡¯s what he did to the radio previously proclaimed to be ¡°up to spec¡±: Work Performed (TR7 Serial #3900) Reworked completely mis-wired ALC LED circuit Repaired 26V and -5V power supply sections Repaired 5645 KHz oscillator on PBT board Attempted to repair damaged PA block, but still had low output on 10m Display spontaneously began erratic operation **Note** Customer elected to not pursue further repairs and sent us another TR7 ¡°7359¡± proved to be a gem; easily brought up to spec and now enjoying pride of place in my shack. Perhaps you have room in your heart for ¡°3900¡±. Consider it a rescue. At $450 plus $100 for shipping via FedEx (I¡¯ll refund any difference immediately), it¡¯s makes for an attractive project. Need a power supply to go with it? PS7 #5028 is available for an additional $175 plus shipping and PS75 #706 is available for $125 plus shipping. Both come with a handy stand that promotes generous air circulation. Photos of ¡°3900¡± are attached. Photos of the PS7 and PS75 will be sent shortly. Please contact me privately with any questions or requests for more photos or information. Best 73, Joe K4JNG
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Remaining items for sale
Fellow Drake Enthusiasts, Remaining items for sale and pickup near Hamvention: New in the box Drake RCS-4 remote coax switch with indoor control box and outside switch, $150. Heath SB-200 linear, mint, with Harbach PS upgrade, soft key, and faster changeover relay, $388.73. ME26 D/U professionally refurbished military VTVM, with amplifying/isolating probe, $50. Variac, 240V (goes to 280) 12A (very conservative), has knob but no case, $25. Johnson Ranger, "8+" on outside, operation unknown, $50. New, pocket DTMF phone dialers, produces DTMF or single tone, for testing linears, etc. $5 each. If interested please contact me off list. Enjoy Hamvention! 73, Evan, K9SQG K9SQG@... 937-426-1986
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TR-4 - Change to PA Circuits 4
In the early versions of the TR-4, for each of the PA tubes, both of the screen grid connections (pins 1 and 7) had a 470pF capacitor to GND. Starting at serial number 27500 (Version 5), Drake removed the capacitor at pin 7 on each of the three PA tubes and replaced it with a 68 ohm resistor between pin 1 and pin 7. Does anyone know why that was done? Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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Dayton Stuff, TR7, PS7, and MN75 2
Bringing to Dayton / Xenia my TR7, PS7 and MN75 Tuner. All in very good condition, a few scratchs on to of radio, but case repainted by Ron Ron Barker WB4HFN went thru the radio for me a few years back, power out is 110w-1.900Mhz, 120w-3.800, 131w-7.200, 132w-14.200, 110w-21.200, and 102w-28.200. Has the AUX-7 board., no xtals installed. Has all band transmit mod, and SSB variable power mod. Also have the full extender board kit to go with it My spaces 9208, 9209. Come by and look it over, Price will be reasonable......I don't think its made of Gold. Thanks, Steve KM4V
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Tr7 Refurb 10
Hi Everyone It did fire up but moving on to its side, went out of lock. It has a wire off, white and green, comes from the area under the vfo can and was lying near the front of the can. Going to upload a picture Does anyone have any idea where it goes. Thanks Mike G3ZCC Ps spent 4 hrs trying to find where it goes to. Tried putting a bright light print side. There is what looks like a pin diode going to an rfc in the space under the PTO. The white green wire, reads,continuity to the RFC. The length of the wire reaches almost to the switch area but I can't see where it could have detached from. See my pictures and you can see where on the print the wire is connected to. There is like a U shape by it. Looking at the schematic I am hazarding a guess that as the VCO is out of lock the wire connects PTO signal to the digital side. Thanks Mike G3ZCC
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TR-4 : Constant tone with 100kHz Calibrator 6
When I switch on the 100kHz calibrator in my TR-4, I get a constant tone regardless of the frequency of the PTO. It's rather high-pitched, perhaps 4 kHz or 5 kHz in frequency. If I recall correctly, it seems more prevalent in one sideband setting or the other (not sure which at the moment). I presume this is not normal, correct? If it isn't, any suggestions as to what might be the problem? I know the crystal and tube are pretty close to the RF TUNE capacitor (which is in a metal cover) and am wondering if that may be where it's getting picked up but that might not have anything to do with it. I'm hoping someone else has seen this and might know where to look. Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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Factory Original TR3 service documents 7
This is a long short but what the heck, I thought I'd ask anyway. Does anyone know where the original factory Drake TR3 service manuals/documents might be found? I would like to get a hold of the factory TR3 service manual(s). I'm not referring to the TR3 operating manual, I already have 3 copies of that manual and schematics. I could be wrong but most likely Drake destroyed those documents when they stopped producing and selling ham gear and closed up shop. My interest is NOT to make copies and sell them but rater to use them to service my Drake TR3 transceiver I recently picked up on eBay. 73 Mike W5RKL https://www.w5rkl.com
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R4-A Antenna 8
I posted this a short time ago but it seems to have disappeared. I have an R4-a but no antenna. I have the pigtail which terminated in a PL 259 so need some type of single wire antenna terminating in a SO 239. Anyone know anything available or have suggestions. Thanks. Dave
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Drake R4-A 2
Have Drake R4A but no antenna. I do have the pigtail which terminates in a pl 259 so would need a longwire or something similar terminating in an SO239. Any suggestions or whatever.
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Photo Notifications #photo-notice
Mike Davidsohn G3ZCC <mike@...> added the photo album Tr7 refurb : Wire off, pictures The following photos have been uploaded to the Tr7 refurb photo album of the [email protected] group. 20250509_185249.jpg By: Mike Davidsohn G3ZCC <mike@...> The following photos have been uploaded to the Tr7 refurb photo album of the [email protected] group. 20250509_185241.jpg By: Mike Davidsohn G3ZCC <mike@...>
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Another TR7 Journey begins 184
I had a TR7 about 15 years ago and loved it but I sold it to help finance my K3 purchase, which I also love and still have. I acquired a TR7 today from an estate today with the PS7. It's S/N 2713. The thing was pretty dirty and will need a case repainting but seemed OK otherwise and the price was right. Here's what I have gleaned so far: 1. The PS7 doesn't work. I hear the transformer thunk when I turn on the rig and the fans on the PS and TR7 both come on but nothing else. The fuse is good and not blowing so I'll need to fix that at some point. 2. The rig came on fine with a different PS and seems to RX and TX fine but power out was around 170 watts and the ALC light was not coming on. I adjusted the control on the ALC board to about 150 watts on 20M at full drive and the ALC light now works but stays on no matter how low I adjust the drive. I know there's another adjustment for that on 10M on a diffferent board but I haven't gotten to that yet. Power doers adjust down to zero now. 3. The S-meter reads very low but signals sound fine so guess that's another adjustement I need to make. Forward and reflected hardly move the meter and adjusting the controls by the antenna socket make no difference. 4. Some good news is that all 4 filter slots are full which is great news for a CW op like me. 5. There's a big change in noise between USB and LSB looks like carrier balance is off. 6. The sidetone volume level is very low, I have to turn the volume control way up to hear it. I do have a PDF copy of the service manual. The big question is will I need the board extenders to fix all this and properly align the rig? If so wheer can I find some that won't cost me too much? My apologies in advance for the many stupid questions I'm sure I will ask as this project moves foward! 73, Bill NZ0T
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TR4310 HF Transceiver 89
Hi to all in the group! While having not fully finished repair work on the low-serial TR7 I posted about some while ago, an opportunity came up this weekend that I just could not turn down - a Drake TR4310 (HF) Communications Transceiver. When will I learn to finish one project prior to starting the next! The example I have acquired (2xx serial number) started life in Africa. Retired from commercial service, it was gifted to a UK amateur who happened to be passing through the country in the course of his employment. He sold it to me for a most agreeable price, in view of it having been in storage for some years, now not working and with some UK repair shop hinting it would be uneconomic to put right. The transceiver is dirty, but in good physical shape. It came with the full, paper service manual, which documents all of the differences between the TR4310 and TR7, on which it is firmly based. The parent board in it is stamped '5 May 1981', so around the time Drake was transitioning between making TR7 and TR7A. I've had the radio on the bench this afternoon. Annoyingly, I cannot find the small Allen key that will allow me to take the knob off the bandswitch (anyone know the size of this?). As a result, I am unable to hinge the front panel down and pull the display board and get to the boards underneath. I pulled all of the boards in the top-rear card cage and have cleaned all their Molex connectors, plus the relay contacts. The 4310 has all four filter slots filled as standard:-) Looks like there is an AUX7 board fitted, with maybe some band modules too:-) With no short circuit on the power input connector and internal fuse intact, I connected up an antenna and applied power. Sure enough it didn't work. Well, actually, quite a lot of it did! I have all voltage rails coming out of the power supply. The display has a few digits lit. Audio and RF gain controls are good. Mode, Filter and PBT functions change the noise in the speaker in the way you would expect. The calibrator produces drifty audio tones in the loudspeaker. Switching between bands and turning the Aux Program knob causes the 'set band' to illuminate and extinguish. On the negative side, there's no MHz digits displayed on the seven segment LED frequency readout for any band. Turning the knob on the (synthesised - yeah, like an RV75!) internal VFO causes some change to the last three right-hand digits, but does not look correct. I think the number one issue is lack of VHF local oscillator injection. I plugged in an RV7 external VFO and got no better results. I'm looking forward to getting this one going and will post updates to this thread once I get further down the line. One thing I am already enjoying is how much easier it seems to be to get to everything in the radio, compared to a TR7, especially the RF HPF and LPF assemblies (hope I will not have cause to go there). Should any other 4310 owners wish to chip in and share their experiences, please feel free. Regards, Mark.
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TR-4: Three Questions Regarding Voltage Chart
1. Are the RECEIVE/TRANSMIT voltages shown for V5 reversed? When I was checking those in RECEIVE, I was getting the voltage values for the TRANSMIT values shown so I was wondering if those are upside-down. 2. Is the voltage for V14 pin 9 correct for RECEIVE? I'm getting 180v on that pin during RECEIVE. As stated in the paragraph below the chart, I'm using X-AM to check that tube's voltages. 3. V19 pin 9 shows "T.P." in that column. Is that a typo? The only thing I can think of for "T.P." here is Test Point and there's not one there (V1 pin 2 is the only official Test Point that I'm aware of in the radio). Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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6EA8 - Brand Recommendations? 23
Still trying to troubleshoot my TR-4. I started checking the tube voltages and found a very weak 6EA8. I was getting about -1.7v at the test point so I tried swapping V1 and V3. That resulted in the test point dropping to about -0.5v. The Hickok 752A also showed the triode being only slightly above the minimum for that tube so I'm thinking of getting a pair where both halves of both tubes will be strong. Any recommendations on brands? Mine are RCA and I suspect that should be a good brand for them but I also figure that brand may not be as critical as for, say, the PA tubes. Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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Band Switch 2
I am in need of a fully functional BANDSWITCH for a Drake L-4B. Any thoughts or anyone? Thank you Vince N8MQV
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Looking for Help Understanding Hickok Testing Data 11
This is slightly OT but maybe not too much since it's related to the problems I'm having with my TR-4's 6EA8s. Looking at the datasheet for transconductance for a 6EA8: PENTODE: 6400 uMhos TRIODE: 8500 uMhos For my 752A, the settings are defined as: MULTIPLIER MIN TRANSCONDUCTANCE VALUE PENTODE X4 550 (550 x 4 = 2200) TRIODE X10 525 (525 x 10 = 5250) If that's all correct, then I'm not following why the pentode's minimum value is 34% (2200/6400) of the datasheet's value while the triode's minimum value is 62% (5250/8500) of the datasheet's value. Am I misinterpreting something? I would think that the minimum values are expected to be some percentage of the value in the datasheet (presumably based on a new, properly-functioning tube) but since they're apparently inconsistent then I'm confused. Can anyone help explain that? Thanks again, Barry - N4BUQ Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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Drake K4OAH manuals 8
Does anyone know if Carol (K4OAH's wife) of Drake Service Supplement CDs is still selling the pdf or CD service supplements of Drake gear? I've purchased pdf files recently for my Drake 2B receiver. The other day I followed the website instructions and purchased a TR4/TR4C service manual. Normally Carol's fast return with a download link once payment is made. However, I haven't heard from her in the past 24 hours which is unusual. The following link is the website that sells those CDs or pdf file copies. R L Drake Service supplement CDs and PDF files 73 Mike W5RKL https://www.w5rkl.com
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T-4X RF cage needed 2
Yes I think I have one but at moment I'm in a hospital and I may out next week so my address is OK on QRZ Call sign M0PAM MARTINS
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SPR-4 AF control 4
It is a fact that on the TR7 a minimum of audio is heard when the AF control is turned fully down. On my SPR-4 the minimum level of audio is more than just acceptable, so I wonder if there is a remedy to the problem or a thing one has to live with. I lifted the leads to the AF control and checked the pot with an ohmmeter. 49 to 3909 ohms from the wiper to one leg, 3793 to 30 ohms to the other leg. Peter OZ8CTH
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Functioning of the FR-4 frequency readout
Drakesters: I recently purchased a C Line that came with an FR-4 digital readout, complete with a manual that matches the serial number. I haven't taken the covers off yet but plugged it in and got an accurate frequency readout straight away. There are a couple of issues that I can't remember from the last one that I owned that I sold in around 1989: The SPDT switch in the back is supposed to either give the frequency of the Drake radio based on the frequency of the INJ signal available at either INJ connector round the back of the tx/rx. The switch on this one does not change to direct frequency readout and I was wondering if any of you who have owned one of these can refresh my memory as to whether this feature is supposed to work or was a change implemented after the manual was written. I do remember the INJ signal being touchy whenever something is "hung-off" the INJ signal. I bought a cheap Y cable with a RCA male going to two RCA female connectors and it looks to be of decent quality and is superior to the connector I had in the 80s, which was simply some short wires connecting "flying" female connectors off the single male connector. I have great results getting the readout to indicate the frequency ON RECEIVE but I lose the accurate frequency when I transmit and the readout goes to some strange frequencies like around 9 MHz or 11 MHz. Can any of you recall if the readout would wander during transmit? It doesn't seem that it should. I now am using the Y cable and a short Drake "ANT" cable that used to be used with a 2m transmit convertor. TIA. Steve Wedge, W1ES Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
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