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This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.?
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.?
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? ?I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.?
See the pic.?
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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Steve:
I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials.? Take a look here....
Mystery solved!
73 Peter VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es= [email protected]> wrote: This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.?
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.?
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this?? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.?
See the pic.?
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.?
Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡
I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing ?100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.?
The rig, itself, is already a disaster.?
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS < ve7ps@...> wrote: Steve:
I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....
Mystery solved!
73 Peter VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es= [email protected]> wrote: This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.
See the pic.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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Steve:
Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my opinion.? I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of spinning lines!? Might be worth letting Radio?Daze know of their error.
Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking pretty ugly too.
On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever" PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO, starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes for the rivets, but no rivets were used.? At least that's what I make of them from what I have observed and photographed so far. ? 73 Peter VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.?
Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡
I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing ?100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.?
The rig, itself, is already a disaster.?
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS < ve7ps@...> wrote: Steve:
I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....
Mystery solved!
73 Peter VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es= [email protected]> wrote: This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.
See the pic.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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I have a TR7 PTO with a pretty trashed disk. Somebody apparently tried
to "clean" it with a powerful solvent, which penetrated between the plastic
and I guess the outer stencil ( with the lines ) and turned the plastic a
blotchy, milky white.
- Jerry, KF6VB
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On 2023-12-15 17:16, VE7PS wrote: Steve:
Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my
opinion. I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of
spinning lines! Might be worth letting Radio Daze know of their
error.
Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking
pretty ugly too.
On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever"
PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO,
starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last
version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes
for the rivets, but no rivets were used. At least that's what I make
of them from what I have observed and photographed so far.
73
Peter
VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
[3] <w1es@...> wrote:
Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there
aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡
I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to
either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and
remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial
is a big deal for him, I know.
The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent from Proton Mail [1] for iOS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <ve7ps@... [2]> wrote:
Steve:
I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line
dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake
replacement dials. Take a look here....
Mystery solved!
73
Peter
VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
[3] <w1es@...> wrote:
This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I
removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained
frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me
doing some drilling.
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around
the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m
guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not
familiar with the Drake dials.
See the pic.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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If you want to get their attention maybe click the review button and give them a 1 star review explaining how they got it so wrong. Really, what were they thinking? Even someone who has never seen a Drake should be able to see what's wrong with that picture... 73 -Jim NU0C On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:01:55 +0000 "Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io" <w1es@...> wrote: Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡
I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.
The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent from [Proton Mail]() for iOS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <[ve7ps@...](mailto:On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <<a href=)> wrote:
Steve:
I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....
Mystery solved!
73
Peter
VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io <w1es@...> wrote:
This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.
See the pic.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent from [Proton Mail]() for iOS
-- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Yeah, I¡¯m thinking that the disc won¡¯t be usable. The old?100¡¯s disc isn¡¯t as bad as the 10¡¯s. Going to try using Novus on the 100¡¯s disc and try staying away from the numerals.?
I¡¯m going to see if someone at RD could see to it to correct the main problem.?
I have a Dremel and very small drill bits. I can probably take care of the rivet?holes.?
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 20:16, VE7PS < ve7ps@...> wrote: Steve:
Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my opinion. I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of spinning lines! Might be worth letting Radio Daze know of their error.
Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking pretty ugly too.
On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever" PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO, starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes for the rivets, but no rivets were used. At least that's what I make of them from what I have observed and photographed so far. 73 Peter VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡
I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.
The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS < ve7ps@...> wrote: Steve:
I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....
Mystery solved!
73 Peter VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es= [email protected]> wrote: This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.
See the pic.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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Yeah, I made the 10¡¯s disc get a milky spot and lose some of the ink by using an ultrasonic cleaner and regular soap. It was trash, anyway, and I can use the new one with a little drilling.?
Folks, don¡¯t use an ultrasonic cleaner on these discs! (Also, if you ultrasound the knobs, you¡¯ll need to redo the white paint!). The gears came out spiffy, though?
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 20:59, jerry-KF6VB < jerry@...> wrote: I have a TR7 PTO with a pretty trashed disk. Somebody apparently tried
to "clean" it with a powerful solvent, which penetrated between the
plastic
and I guess the outer stencil ( with the lines ) and turned the plastic
a
blotchy, milky white.
- Jerry, KF6VB
On 2023-12-15 17:16, VE7PS wrote:
> Steve:
>
> Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my
> opinion. I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of
> spinning lines! Might be worth letting Radio Daze know of their
> error.
>
> Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking
> pretty ugly too.
>
> On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever"
> PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO,
> starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last
> version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes
> for the rivets, but no rivets were used. At least that's what I make
> of them from what I have observed and photographed so far.
>
> 73
> Peter
> VE7PS
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
> [3] <w1es@...> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there
>> aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
>>
>> Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡
>>
>> I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to
>> either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and
>> remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial
>> is a big deal for him, I know.
>>
>> The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
>>
>> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
>>
>> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail [1] for iOS
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <ve7ps@... [2]> wrote:
>> Steve:
>>
>> I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line
>> dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
>>
>> On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake
>> replacement dials. Take a look here....
>>
>> https://www.radiodaze.com/drake-r4-c-dial-set-item-ds-a834/
>>
>> Mystery solved!
>>
>> 73
>> Peter
>> VE7PS
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
>> [3] <w1es@...> wrote:
>>
>> This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I
>> removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained
>> frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me
>> doing some drilling.
>>
>> Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around
>> the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
>>
>> Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m
>> guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not
>> familiar with the Drake dials.
>>
>> See the pic.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
>>
>> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail [1] for iOS
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I¡¯ll try the nice way first. My wife used to deal with them years ago when she was the office manager at ARC.?
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 21:23, Jim Shorney < jimNU0C@...> wrote:
If you want to get their attention maybe click the review button and give them a 1 star review explaining how they got it so wrong. Really, what were they thinking? Even someone who has never seen a Drake should be able to see what's wrong with that picture...
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:01:55 +0000
"Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io" <w1es@...> wrote:
> Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
>
> Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡
>
> I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.
>
> The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
>
> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
>
> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>
> Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <[ve7ps@...](mailto:On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <<a href=)> wrote:
>
> > Steve:
> >
> > I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
> >
> > On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....
> >
> > https://www.radiodaze.com/drake-r4-c-dial-set-item-ds-a834/
> >
> > Mystery solved!
> >
> > 73
> > Peter
> > VE7PS
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io <w1es@...> wrote:
> >
> >> This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.
> >>
> >> Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
> >>
> >> Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.
> >>
> >> See the pic.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
> >>
> >> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
> >>
> >> Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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-Jim
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