I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked the wafer.
I found this switch which has potential:
The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is different. The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it). Presumably if you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this? The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to repair it and use it.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question. If I'm not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2 contacts at any of the 5 positions. Is that correct? Based on what I can surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked the wafer.
I found this switch which has potential:
The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is different. The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it). Presumably if you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this? The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to repair it and use it.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question. If I'm not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2 contacts at any of the 5 positions. Is that correct? Based on what I can surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked the wafer.
I found this switch which has potential:
The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is different. The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it). Presumably if you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this? The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to repair it and use it.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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I have found a switch that will work and be almost exactly like the original:
As part of the process, I will need to remove one of the "fingered" plates and move to a location which is rotated a bit from where it is now. I'll need to remove the existing tiny rivets and then re-rivet it.
I think Centralab used to sell repair kits for things like this which may have included rivets. Does anyone know where small rivets like these can be found? I think a hobby shop might be a good place but not sure. Anyone know?
Thanks again, Barry - N4BUQ
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Pictures of the switch/cap/coil assembly are here:
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Barry - N4BUQ
I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question. If I'm not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2 contacts at any of the 5 positions. Is that correct? Based on what I can surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked the wafer.
I found this switch which has potential:
The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is different. The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it). Presumably if you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this? The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to repair it and use it.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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On 2025-03-08 14:39, n4buq wrote: I'll need to remove the existing tiny rivets and then re-rivet it.
** Instead of re-riviting the finger, I'd attach it with a screw & nut. On a job like that, I used fasteners from a little kit meant for fixing eyeglasses. And Loktite. The ceramic is fragile. I wouldn't bang on it. Been there, done that... - Jerry, KF6VB
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A wee (sic) bit more expensive, but..for accuracy: If I am remembering correctly, the wafer switch in the W4 watt meter is the same wafer switch.
Corrections anyone??!!
Joe - WRKN
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of n4buq via groups.io Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] MN-2000 - Damaged Band Switch I have found a switch that will work and be almost exactly like the original: As part of the process, I will need to remove one of the "fingered" plates and move to a location which is rotated a bit from where it is now. I'll need to remove the existing tiny rivets and then re-rivet it. I think Centralab used to sell repair kits for things like this which may have included rivets. Does anyone know where small rivets like these can be found? I think a hobby shop might be a good place but not sure. Anyone know?
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As a side note, some of the switches used in Drake equipment have beefy spring mechanisms. ?Though not my idea, I modified several of the switches in some of my Drake equipment. ?I removed one of the ball bearings, and then applied a modest amount of wide temperature range silicon lubricant to the other. ?The switches are now easier to turn, yet the detents are still positive and I've not had any issues with them in over 20 years. ?Please send flames off list.
On 2025-03-08 14:39, n4buq wrote:
> I'll need to remove the existing tiny rivets and then re-rivet > it. > ** Instead of re-riviting the finger, I'd attach it with a screw & nut. On a job like that, I used fasteners from a little kit meant for fixing eyeglasses.? And Loktite.
? The ceramic is fragile.? I wouldn't bang on it.? Been there, done that...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry, KF6VB
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Yeah, I have some #0-80 nuts and screws. I may use those with some Loktite.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry-KF6VB" <jerry@...> To: "DRAKE-RADIO" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2025 5:01:53 PM Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] MN-2000 - Damaged Band Switch On 2025-03-08 14:39, n4buq wrote:
I'll need to remove the existing tiny rivets and then re-rivet it.
** Instead of re-riviting the finger, I'd attach it with a screw & nut. On a job like that, I used fasteners from a little kit meant for fixing eyeglasses. And Loktite.
The ceramic is fragile. I wouldn't bang on it. Been there, done that...
- Jerry, KF6VB
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I have done the same a couple of times, except I used TriFlow PTFE-based bicycle grease. No issues. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:21:05 +0000 (UTC) "Evan via groups.io" <k9sqg@...> wrote: ?Though not my idea, I modified several of the switches in some of my Drake equipment. ?I removed one of the ball bearings, and then applied a modest amount of wide temperature range silicon lubricant to the other -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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I have used tiny brass hardware for switch repairs. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:51:29 -0500 (EST) "n4buq via groups.io" <n4buq@...> wrote: Yeah, I have some #0-80 nuts and screws. I may use those with some Loktite.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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I think I would be more inclined to use a tiny brass screw and nut. Would be a shame to crack a new section trying to secure a rivet! Just my .02!!
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On Mar 8, 2025, at 5:16?PM, Joe - W7RKN via groups.io <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:
?A wee (sic) bit more expensive, but..for accuracy: If I am remembering correctly, the wafer switch in the W4 watt meter is the same wafer switch.
Corrections anyone??!!
Joe - WRKN
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of n4buq via groups.io Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] MN-2000 - Damaged Band Switch
I have found a switch that will work and be almost exactly like the original:
As part of the process, I will need to remove one of the "fingered" plates and move to a location which is rotated a bit from where it is now. I'll need to remove the existing tiny rivets and then re-rivet it.
I think Centralab used to sell repair kits for things like this which may have included rivets. Does anyone know where small rivets like these can be found? I think a hobby shop might be a good place but not sure. Anyone know?
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Use loctite.?
Steve Wedge, W1ES
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 19:43, Ronnie Hull - W5SUM via groups.io < w5sum@...> wrote: I think I would be more inclined to use a tiny brass screw and nut. Would be a shame to crack a new section trying to secure a rivet!
Just my .02!!
R
> On Mar 8, 2025, at 5:16?PM, Joe - W7RKN via groups.io <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:
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> ?A wee (sic) bit more expensive, but..for accuracy: If I am remembering correctly, the wafer switch in the W4 watt meter is the same wafer switch.
>
> Corrections anyone??!!
>
> Joe - WRKN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of n4buq via groups.io
> Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] MN-2000 - Damaged Band Switch
>
> I have found a switch that will work and be almost exactly like the original:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/226616438192
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> As part of the process, I will need to remove one of the "fingered" plates and move to a location which is rotated a bit from where it is now. I'll need to remove the existing tiny rivets and then re-rivet it.
>
> I think Centralab used to sell repair kits for things like this which may have included rivets. Does anyone know where small rivets like these can be found? I think a hobby shop might be a good place but not sure. Anyone know?
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These are brass #0-80 screws but the nuts are stainless. I'd like to find some brass nuts to go with them. Maybe the hobby store where I bought the screws has some brass nuts as well.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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I have used tiny brass hardware for switch repairs.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:51:29 -0500 (EST) "n4buq via groups.io" <n4buq@...> wrote:
Yeah, I have some #0-80 nuts and screws. I may use those with some Loktite.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ --
73
-Jim NU0C
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Update: I finished making the repairs to the Band Switch. New pictures are in the /g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171 album. The fingers on the switch I bought were mounted in two sections and the switch needed them all in one contiguous section. I removed one of the sections and re-mounted it using #80 brass screws and stainless-steel nuts with Loctite to make sure those nuts did not work themselves loose. Since the fingers all need to be be connected together, I soldered a heavy-gauge piece of copper wire to both sections. I also needed to remove one switch finger as there were 11 and the switch only uses 10 of them. The switch I bought also did not have the connection points rotated such that they faced each other in pairs like the original switch was configured. I opted to remove the flat straps from the capacitors and substituted a heavy gauge solid copper wire in a VEE shape that connects two solder points to each capacitor (see pictures). That seems to work well enough. Getting the "fingers" of the coil reattached was a bit painful. I formed loops of solid copper wire to accept each finger and connect it to two of the solder points on the switch. That was quite tedious due to the limited space but I got it done. I reassembled the internals and, for fun (since I didn't have a transmitter on the workbench) I connected it to my R390 receiver. I was quite surprised at what a difference that makes matching my 20M inverted VEE in my attic to 80M at the receiver. In my 50+ years as a ham, I've never owned a separate tuner like this and was impressed at the sharpness the tuning provides in that scenario. I intend to drag out the TR-4 and my dummy load and see what that looks like. Of course, since it's a 50-ohm dummy load, the tuner won't have much to do but I thought I'd see what it does there before moving on to using the attic antenna with it. I don't have anything to test it with legal-limit power so I'll have to trust that it will properly handle that much power the way I reconnected the switch. I really, really like this new "toy"! Thanks Barry - N4BUQ
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Pictures of the switch/cap/coil assembly are here:
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Barry - N4BUQ
I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question. If I'm not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2 contacts at any of the 5 positions. Is that correct? Based on what I can surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked the wafer.
I found this switch which has potential:
The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is different. The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it). Presumably if you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this? The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to repair it and use it.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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Hi Barry
Thanks for posting those excellent pics for us to see.? It looks like a fine repair and one that should last a good long while. That kind of fussy work is really tedious and requires a good bit of patience and dexterity. I'm really glad you were able to save the unit.? While have done the contact transfer with tiny hardware before, I also found a small supply of miniature rivets that I have used in one other instance. ( I know I have them but I'm not sure I could find them again!) . It would be interesting to see the process used by Centralab? and others who put these together in the first place. Electroswitch (owned by Centralab) is located nearby in Raleigh.? They used to dump their scrap at a local scrap yard and I found some good parts there (also a spool of 50 ohm hardline the size of RG8x) among other goodies. I recall contacting them regarding the use of one of their switches in a new product. I had no idea they were located less than 5 miles from my office! John k5MO
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Update:
I finished making the repairs to the Band Switch.? New pictures are in the /g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171 album.
The fingers on the switch I bought were mounted in two sections and the switch needed them all in one contiguous section.? I removed one of the sections and re-mounted it using #80 brass screws and stainless-steel nuts with Loctite to make sure those nuts did not work themselves loose.? Since the fingers all need to be be connected together, I soldered a heavy-gauge piece of copper wire to both sections.? I also needed to remove one switch finger as there were 11 and the switch only uses 10 of them.
The switch I bought also did not have the connection points rotated such that they faced each other in pairs like the original switch was configured.? I opted to remove the flat straps from the capacitors and substituted a heavy gauge solid copper wire in a VEE shape that connects two solder points to each capacitor (see pictures).? That seems to work well enough.
Getting the "fingers" of the coil reattached was a bit painful.? I formed loops of solid copper wire to accept each finger and connect it to two of the solder points on the switch.? That was quite tedious due to the limited space but I got it done.
I reassembled the internals and, for fun (since I didn't have a transmitter on the workbench) I connected it to my R390 receiver.? I was quite surprised at what a difference that makes matching my 20M inverted VEE in my attic to 80M at the receiver.? In my 50+ years as a ham, I've never owned a separate tuner like this and was impressed at the sharpness the tuning provides in that scenario.? I intend to drag out the TR-4 and my dummy load and see what that looks like.? Of course, since it's a 50-ohm dummy load, the tuner won't have much to do but I thought I'd see what it does there before moving on to using the attic antenna with it.? I don't have anything to test it with legal-limit power so I'll have to trust that it will properly handle that much power the way I reconnected the switch.
I really, really like this new "toy"!
Thanks
Barry - N4BUQ
> Pictures of the switch/cap/coil assembly are here:
>
> /g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171
>
> Barry - N4BUQ
>
>> I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question.? If I'm
>> not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2
>> contacts at any of the 5 positions.? Is that correct?? Based on what I can
>> surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barry - N4BUQ
>>
>>> I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat
>>> catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band
>>> switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked
>>> the wafer.
>>>
>>> I found this switch which has potential:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is
>>> different.? The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in
>>> that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like
>>> a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it).? Presumably if
>>> you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this?
>>> The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to
>>> repair it and use it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Barry - N4BUQ
>>
>>
>>
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Well-done, Barry! Your patience is impressive -- I would have put it aside for parts.
Steve Wedge, W1ES
Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
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On Sunday, March 30th, 2025 at 10:47 PM, n4buq <n4buq@...> wrote: Update:
I finished making the repairs to the Band Switch. New pictures are in the /g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171 album.
The fingers on the switch I bought were mounted in two sections and the switch needed them all in one contiguous section. I removed one of the sections and re-mounted it using #80 brass screws and stainless-steel nuts with Loctite to make sure those nuts did not work themselves loose. Since the fingers all need to be be connected together, I soldered a heavy-gauge piece of copper wire to both sections. I also needed to remove one switch finger as there were 11 and the switch only uses 10 of them.
The switch I bought also did not have the connection points rotated such that they faced each other in pairs like the original switch was configured. I opted to remove the flat straps from the capacitors and substituted a heavy gauge solid copper wire in a VEE shape that connects two solder points to each capacitor (see pictures). That seems to work well enough.
Getting the "fingers" of the coil reattached was a bit painful. I formed loops of solid copper wire to accept each finger and connect it to two of the solder points on the switch. That was quite tedious due to the limited space but I got it done.
I reassembled the internals and, for fun (since I didn't have a transmitter on the workbench) I connected it to my R390 receiver. I was quite surprised at what a difference that makes matching my 20M inverted VEE in my attic to 80M at the receiver. In my 50+ years as a ham, I've never owned a separate tuner like this and was impressed at the sharpness the tuning provides in that scenario. I intend to drag out the TR-4 and my dummy load and see what that looks like. Of course, since it's a 50-ohm dummy load, the tuner won't have much to do but I thought I'd see what it does there before moving on to using the attic antenna with it. I don't have anything to test it with legal-limit power so I'll have to trust that it will properly handle that much power the way I reconnected the switch.
I really, really like this new "toy"!
Thanks Barry - N4BUQ
Pictures of the switch/cap/coil assembly are here:
/g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171
Barry - N4BUQ
I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question. If I'm not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2 contacts at any of the 5 positions. Is that correct? Based on what I can surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked the wafer.
I found this switch which has potential:
The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is different. The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it). Presumably if you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this? The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to repair it and use it.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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?John,
While I wanted to rivet those fingers back in place, I was afraid of shattering the steatite so I went with screws.? As for getting the solder connections rotated, I gently tried to rotate one or two of them but they didn't want to move.? Unfortunately, the large contacts are part of the rivet that holds those solder connections in place so I couldn't re-rivet those either and opted for the wired connections.? I'm concerned just a bit as to whether there'll be the likelihood of arcing if/when high power is used.? I don't ever plan on going QRO with it but someone else might.
Thanks again.? It is such a lovely unit as well as built like the proverbial tank.
73, Barry - N4BUQ
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From: "John K5MO via groups.io" <johnk5mo@...> To: "DRAKE-RADIO" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2025 6:48:28 AM Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] MN-2000 - Damaged Band Switch
Hi Barry
Thanks for posting those excellent pics for us to see.? It looks like a fine repair and one that should last a good long while. That kind of fussy work is really tedious and requires a good bit of patience and dexterity. I'm really glad you were able to save the unit.? While have done the contact transfer with tiny hardware before, I also found a small supply of miniature rivets that I have used in one other instance. ( I know I have them but I'm not sure I could find them again!) . It would be interesting to see the process used by Centralab? and others who put these together in the first place. Electroswitch (owned by Centralab) is located nearby in Raleigh.? They used to dump their scrap at a local scrap yard and I found some good parts there (also a spool of 50 ohm hardline the size of RG8x) among other goodies. I recall contacting them regarding the use of one of their switches in a new product. I had no idea they were located less than 5 miles from my office! John k5MO
Update:
I finished making the repairs to the Band Switch.? New pictures are in the /g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171 album.
The fingers on the switch I bought were mounted in two sections and the switch needed them all in one contiguous section.? I removed one of the sections and re-mounted it using #80 brass screws and stainless-steel nuts with Loctite to make sure those nuts did not work themselves loose.? Since the fingers all need to be be connected together, I soldered a heavy-gauge piece of copper wire to both sections.? I also needed to remove one switch finger as there were 11 and the switch only uses 10 of them.
The switch I bought also did not have the connection points rotated such that they faced each other in pairs like the original switch was configured.? I opted to remove the flat straps from the capacitors and substituted a heavy gauge solid copper wire in a VEE shape that connects two solder points to each capacitor (see pictures).? That seems to work well enough.
Getting the "fingers" of the coil reattached was a bit painful.? I formed loops of solid copper wire to accept each finger and connect it to two of the solder points on the switch.? That was quite tedious due to the limited space but I got it done.
I reassembled the internals and, for fun (since I didn't have a transmitter on the workbench) I connected it to my R390 receiver.? I was quite surprised at what a difference that makes matching my 20M inverted VEE in my attic to 80M at the receiver.? In my 50+ years as a ham, I've never owned a separate tuner like this and was impressed at the sharpness the tuning provides in that scenario.? I intend to drag out the TR-4 and my dummy load and see what that looks like.? Of course, since it's a 50-ohm dummy load, the tuner won't have much to do but I thought I'd see what it does there before moving on to using the attic antenna with it.? I don't have anything to test it with legal-limit power so I'll have to trust that it will properly handle that much power the way I reconnected the switch.
I really, really like this new "toy"!
Thanks
Barry - N4BUQ
> Pictures of the switch/cap/coil assembly are here:
>
> /g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171
>
> Barry - N4BUQ
>
>> I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question.? If I'm
>> not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2
>> contacts at any of the 5 positions.? Is that correct?? Based on what I can
>> surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barry - N4BUQ
>>
>>> I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat
>>> catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band
>>> switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked
>>> the wafer.
>>>
>>> I found this switch which has potential:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is
>>> different.? The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in
>>> that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like
>>> a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it).? Presumably if
>>> you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this?
>>> The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to
>>> repair it and use it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Barry - N4BUQ
>>
>>
>>
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Thanks, Steve. I have a very difficult time relegating equipment for spares. This one is in such good cosmetic condition and I wanted to rescue it if at all possible.
73, Barry - N4BUQ
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Well-done, Barry! Your patience is impressive -- I would have put it aside for parts.
Steve Wedge, W1ES
Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
On Sunday, March 30th, 2025 at 10:47 PM, n4buq <n4buq@...> wrote:
Update:
I finished making the repairs to the Band Switch. New pictures are in the /g/DRAKE-RADIO/album?id=301171 album.
The fingers on the switch I bought were mounted in two sections and the switch needed them all in one contiguous section. I removed one of the sections and re-mounted it using #80 brass screws and stainless-steel nuts with Loctite to make sure those nuts did not work themselves loose. Since the fingers all need to be be connected together, I soldered a heavy-gauge piece of copper wire to both sections. I also needed to remove one switch finger as there were 11 and the switch only uses 10 of them.
The switch I bought also did not have the connection points rotated such that they faced each other in pairs like the original switch was configured. I opted to remove the flat straps from the capacitors and substituted a heavy gauge solid copper wire in a VEE shape that connects two solder points to each capacitor (see pictures). That seems to work well enough.
Getting the "fingers" of the coil reattached was a bit painful. I formed loops of solid copper wire to accept each finger and connect it to two of the solder points on the switch. That was quite tedious due to the limited space but I got it done.
I reassembled the internals and, for fun (since I didn't have a transmitter on the workbench) I connected it to my R390 receiver. I was quite surprised at what a difference that makes matching my 20M inverted VEE in my attic to 80M at the receiver. In my 50+ years as a ham, I've never owned a separate tuner like this and was impressed at the sharpness the tuning provides in that scenario. I intend to drag out the TR-4 and my dummy load and see what that looks like. Of course, since it's a 50-ohm dummy load, the tuner won't have much to do but I thought I'd see what it does there before moving on to using the attic antenna with it. I don't have anything to test it with legal-limit power so I'll have to trust that it will properly handle that much power the way I reconnected the switch.
I really, really like this new "toy"!
Thanks Barry - N4BUQ
Pictures of the switch/cap/coil assembly are here:
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Barry - N4BUQ
I have removed the switch assembly from the tuner and have a question. If I'm not mistaken, the original switch had 10 fingers, each one contacting 2 contacts at any of the 5 positions. Is that correct? Based on what I can surmise, that's likely correct but thought I'd check first.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
I have an MN-2000 that somewhere in its long history, suffered a somewhat catastrophic event that vaporized one set of the rotating fingers on the band switch, damaged two of the contact points on the steatite wafer, and cracked the wafer.
I found this switch which has potential:
The contacts are much like the one in the tuner; however, the rotating part is different. The band switch in the MN-2000 isn't a traditional rotary switch in that it doesn't make use of a wiper and, instead, the rotating fingers are like a rotary shorting bar (for lack of a better way to describe it). Presumably if you've ever looked at one of these, you know what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have any pointers on how I might go about replacing/repairing this? The tuner is is in otherwise exceptionally great condition so I'd like to repair it and use it.
Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ
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