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Ron,
I think I have what you want. A few months ago I? moved to a new QTH
and am still in the process of unboxing "shelf" gear.??? I'll dig
into my MS-4/AC-4 boxes and will let you know.?? I'll send you a
picture and then you make an offer.
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 2:51 PM, Ronnie Hull -
W5SUM wrote:
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Anyone have a MS4 they will part with reasonably?
Does not have to be pretty but has to be complete and work.
Thanks
Ron W5sum?
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George I’m looking for an AC4 I’m ok with something that needs a capacitor rebuild? Regards Tim KD2SC?
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 03:12:30 PM EST, K4GM-George <k4gm@...> wrote:
Ron,
I think I have what you want. A few months ago I? moved to a new QTH
and am still in the process of unboxing "shelf" gear.??? I'll dig
into my MS-4/AC-4 boxes and will let you know.?? I'll send you a
picture and then you make an offer.
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 2:51 PM, Ronnie Hull -
W5SUM wrote:
Anyone have a MS4 they will part with reasonably?
Does not have to be pretty but has to be complete and work.
Thanks
Ron W5sum?
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I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a hamfest last year with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since then my situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with it.? It's in very good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he assured me that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild but if there's a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look at it.? Thanks, Jack N0JVR
George I’m looking for an AC4 I’m ok with something that needs a capacitor rebuild? Regards Tim KD2SC?
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 03:12:30 PM EST, K4GM-George < k4gm@...> wrote:
Ron,
I think I have what you want. A few months ago I? moved to a new QTH
and am still in the process of unboxing "shelf" gear.??? I'll dig
into my MS-4/AC-4 boxes and will let you know.?? I'll send you a
picture and then you make an offer.
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 2:51 PM, Ronnie Hull -
W5SUM wrote:
Anyone have a MS4 they will part with reasonably?
Does not have to be pretty but has to be complete and work.
Thanks
Ron W5sum?
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 2:39?PM, Jack N0JVR <jackr9617@...> wrote:
? I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a hamfest last year with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since then my situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with it.? It's in very good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he assured me that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild but if there's a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look at it.? Thanks, Jack N0JVR
George I’m looking for an AC4 I’m ok with something that needs a capacitor rebuild? Regards Tim KD2SC?
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 03:12:30 PM EST, K4GM-George < k4gm@...> wrote:
Ron,
I think I have what you want. A few months ago I? moved to a new QTH
and am still in the process of unboxing "shelf" gear.??? I'll dig
into my MS-4/AC-4 boxes and will let you know.?? I'll send you a
picture and then you make an offer.
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 2:51 PM, Ronnie Hull -
W5SUM wrote:
Anyone have a MS4 they will part with reasonably?
Does not have to be pretty but has to be complete and work.
Thanks
Ron W5sum?
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IMPORTANT: If you sell this take the AC-4 out of the speaker box and pack it separately. If you ship it assembled it can break loose and destroy the whole thing. Two separate boxes, one for the supply and one for the speaker. When you take the supply out of the box it will be obvious if its had an update kit installed. There are two common kits but one can also buy the caps from Hayseed Hamfest and replace them. That will be less obvious.
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On 2/1/2024 12:39 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote: I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a hamfest last year with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since then my situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with it.? It's in very good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he assured me that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild but if there's a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look at it. Thanks, Jack N0JVR
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998
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Thanks for the info Richard!
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:14?PM Richard Knoppow < 1oldlens1@...> wrote: ? ? IMPORTANT: If you sell this take the AC-4 out of the speaker box and
pack it separately. If you ship it assembled it can break loose and
destroy the whole thing. Two separate boxes, one for the supply and one
for the speaker. When you take the supply out of the box it will be
obvious if its had an update kit installed. There are two common kits
but one can also buy the caps from Hayseed Hamfest and replace them.
That will be less obvious.
On 2/1/2024 12:39 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
> I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a hamfest last year
> with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since then my
> situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with it.? It's in very
> good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he assured me
> that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild but if there's
> a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look at it.?
> Thanks, Jack N0JVR
>
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998
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Gentlemen, Be sure to heed the warning to remove the power supply and ship separately.? Handling during shipping WILL cause the rear corners to collapse and fold.? If that hasn't happened over the years, consider yourself lucky.? It's just cosmetic and not really visible from the front, but mind as well do everything you can to keep it pristine :?-?)
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024, 15:56 Ronnie Hull - W5SUM < w5sum@...> wrote: Thanks sir! ? I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a hamfest last year with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since then my situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with it.? It's in very good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he assured me that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild but if there's a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look at it.? Thanks, Jack N0JVR
George I’m looking for an AC4 I’m ok with something that needs a capacitor rebuild? Regards Tim KD2SC?
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 03:12:30 PM EST, K4GM-George < k4gm@...> wrote:
Ron,
I think I have what you want. A few months ago I? moved to a new QTH
and am still in the process of unboxing "shelf" gear.??? I'll dig
into my MS-4/AC-4 boxes and will let you know.?? I'll send you a
picture and then you make an offer.
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 2:51 PM, Ronnie Hull -
W5SUM wrote:
Anyone have a MS4 they will part with reasonably?
Does not have to be pretty but has to be complete and work.
Thanks
Ron W5sum?
|
Listmates,
The precautions mentioned about shipping an AC-4 and an MS-4? should
be heeded.?? About 20 yrs ago a ham on the west coast shipped to me
in Virginia an AC-4 mounted inside of an MS-4.?? When I opened the
box I saw a bent up MS-4 barely holding on to an AC-4 by two
screws.?? Ugh.?? I ended up getting my money back while keeping the
shipment.? Converted the AC-4 to an AC-4R and gave the MS-4 some
time in the vice!??
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 4:54 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
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Thanks for the info
Richard!
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:14?PM
Richard Knoppow < 1oldlens1@...>
wrote:
?
? IMPORTANT: If you sell this take the AC-4 out of the speaker
box and
pack it separately. If you ship it assembled it can break
loose and
destroy the whole thing. Two separate boxes, one for the
supply and one
for the speaker. When you take the supply out of the box it
will be
obvious if its had an update kit installed. There are two
common kits
but one can also buy the caps from Hayseed Hamfest and replace
them.
That will be less obvious.
On 2/1/2024 12:39 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
> I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a
hamfest last year
> with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since
then my
> situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with
it.? It's in very
> good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he
assured me
> that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild
but if there's
> a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look
at it.?
> Thanks, Jack N0JVR
>
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998
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Interesting discussion......!
While I don't recommend shipping an AC-4 inside?an MS-4, it can be done with reduced risk successfully.? I proved that 25 years ago with one shipped that way to a ham in France.
Whenever I ship a 4 line (or 7-line), the item either gets the feet removed, bagged and placed somewhere safe within the item, or it is placed on at least a? 1" thick piece of pink high density styrofoam with holes cut out to match the feet such that the entire bottom surface of the "box" rest on that HD stryrofoam.? The AC-4 was installed in the MS-4 with its usual screws, and "blocked" tightly on the three inner open sides with many layers of cardboard (not corrugated?cardboard!).? That whole assembly then was wrapped tightly with multiple?layers?of bubble wrap and taped up.? It was placed in a box with 2" of that pink HD styrofoam insulation cut to fit tightly around the bubble wrapped item.? Box was 3 ply heavy duty.? The idea is to have nothing?able to move inside the box and to protect the inner item from damage should it be whacked externally.
I'll admit this was a long time ago and I am not sure that our postal/delivery systems are as radio friendly as they once were.? Most things I ship now are double boxed and a layer of at least 1" of that pink HD styrofoam goes between the inner and outer box.? I often use corner protectors...plastic, or heavy?corrugated?cardboard... as well.
And I still have trouble sleeping nights?until I get word the item arrived safely!
YMMV! 73 Peter VE7PS
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:33?PM K4GM-George < k4gm@...> wrote:
Listmates,
The precautions mentioned about shipping an AC-4 and an MS-4? should
be heeded.?? About 20 yrs ago a ham on the west coast shipped to me
in Virginia an AC-4 mounted inside of an MS-4.?? When I opened the
box I saw a bent up MS-4 barely holding on to an AC-4 by two
screws.?? Ugh.?? I ended up getting my money back while keeping the
shipment.? Converted the AC-4 to an AC-4R and gave the MS-4 some
time in the vice!??
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 4:54 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
Thanks for the info
Richard!
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:14?PM
Richard Knoppow < 1oldlens1@...>
wrote:
?
? IMPORTANT: If you sell this take the AC-4 out of the speaker
box and
pack it separately. If you ship it assembled it can break
loose and
destroy the whole thing. Two separate boxes, one for the
supply and one
for the speaker. When you take the supply out of the box it
will be
obvious if its had an update kit installed. There are two
common kits
but one can also buy the caps from Hayseed Hamfest and replace
them.
That will be less obvious.
On 2/1/2024 12:39 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
> I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a
hamfest last year
> with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since
then my
> situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with
it.? It's in very
> good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he
assured me
> that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild
but if there's
> a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look
at it.?
> Thanks, Jack N0JVR
>
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998
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This is not ham paranoia. Drake documentation EXPLICITLY STATES that the power supply must be removed from the speaker for shipment or damage will occur. 73 -Jim NU0C On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 18:33:34 -0500 "K4GM-George" <k4gm@...> wrote: Listmates,
The precautions mentioned about shipping an AC-4 and an MS-4? should be
heeded.?? About 20 yrs ago a ham on the west coast shipped to me in
Virginia an AC-4 mounted inside of an MS-4.?? When I opened the box I
saw a bent up MS-4 barely holding on to an AC-4 by two screws.?? Ugh.??
I ended up getting my money back while keeping the shipment.? Converted
the AC-4 to an AC-4R and gave the MS-4 some time in the vice!
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 4:54 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
Thanks for the info Richard!
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:14?PM Richard Knoppow
<1oldlens1@...> wrote:
? IMPORTANT: If you sell this take the AC-4 out of the speaker box
and
pack it separately. If you ship it assembled it can break loose and
destroy the whole thing. Two separate boxes, one for the supply
and one
for the speaker. When you take the supply out of the box it will be
obvious if its had an update kit installed. There are two common kits
but one can also buy the caps from Hayseed Hamfest and replace them.
That will be less obvious.
On 2/1/2024 12:39 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
> I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a hamfest
last year
> with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since then my
> situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with it.? It's
in very
> good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he
assured me
> that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild but if
there's
> a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look at it.
> Thanks, Jack N0JVR
>
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998
-- 73 -Jim NU0C
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You are absolutely right, Jim. I have never forgotten that warning.?
And that is just one of the? reasons I was shocked when I got the
combo shipment.
On 2/1/2024 7:34 PM, Jim Shorney wrote:
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This is not ham paranoia. Drake documentation EXPLICITLY STATES that the power supply must be removed from the speaker for shipment or damage will occur.
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 18:33:34 -0500
"K4GM-George" <k4gm@...> wrote:
Listmates,
The precautions mentioned about shipping an AC-4 and an MS-4? should be
heeded.?? About 20 yrs ago a ham on the west coast shipped to me in
Virginia an AC-4 mounted inside of an MS-4.?? When I opened the box I
saw a bent up MS-4 barely holding on to an AC-4 by two screws.?? Ugh.??
I ended up getting my money back while keeping the shipment.? Converted
the AC-4 to an AC-4R and gave the MS-4 some time in the vice!
73, George K4GM
On 2/1/2024 4:54 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
Thanks for the info Richard!
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:14?PM Richard Knoppow
<1oldlens1@...> wrote:
? IMPORTANT: If you sell this take the AC-4 out of the speaker box
and
pack it separately. If you ship it assembled it can break loose and
destroy the whole thing. Two separate boxes, one for the supply
and one
for the speaker. When you take the supply out of the box it will be
obvious if its had an update kit installed. There are two common kits
but one can also buy the caps from Hayseed Hamfest and replace them.
That will be less obvious.
On 2/1/2024 12:39 PM, Jack N0JVR wrote:
> I have an MS-4 w/AC4 power supply that I bought at a hamfest
last year
> with the intent of getting a Drake radio for it but since then my
> situation has changed and I'd be willing to part with it.? It's
in very
> good condition and I know the ham I bought it from and he
assured me
> that it worked.? I'm not sure if it's had the cap rebuild but if
there's
> a way I can tell it's been done let me know and I'll look at it.
> Thanks, Jack N0JVR
>
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998
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Ronnie Hull - W5SUM
K4GM-George
Jim Shorney