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Re: TR7 next problem

 

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Hi Gary, I did the ground on RFC505 and no change except that the voltage goes very low of course going through a 100K resistor. The frequency counter shows 1.3 MHz on the output of the VCO when it is on 10 or 15 meters. When I switch to 14 MHz it pops up to 65 MHz but it is not connect to the translator board just plugged into my extenders.? I did a voltage check at the test point off of CR515, CR516, CR517, and CR518 and here is what I got, Way off.

1.5 MHZ 21.24 VDC Looks like it should be 3 volts. the photocopy is heard to read.

14.0 MHz 21.20 VDC Looks like it should be maybe 15 volts

21.0 MHZ 21.17 VDC and looks like it should be 6 Volts

29.5 MHZ 21.15 VDC and looks like it should be 14.5 volts

Maybe I am way off Gary but hope that maybe that helps. Almost looks like something it shorted? I don't know where to go next so any help appreciated. Thanks.

73, Jim VE1RB


On 2024-12-30 13:42, Gary Follett via groups.io wrote:

That is WAY too high!!

The maximum that should be seen at this point is ~15 volts, the high end of 10 meters. 20 volts here would push the VCO to its maximum frequency, if it is running at all.?

Is there any RF signal coming out of the VCO? You may have answered this previously but I seem to have forgotten the answer. If there IS RF, here, what is its frequency?

Something is telling the PLL phase detector to put out a voltage thinking that the frequency is too low, which is why the voltage on RFC505 is so high.

Can you short RFC505 cold end to ground? This SHOULD make the VCO, if it is operating, go to the low end of its range in frequency. This point is fed via a 100K resistor from U504B so this will not hurt anything.

Gary

W0DVN

PS: Not taking into account C516 and C517, I had previously stated that voltage across the tuning diodes depended one the voltage at Q504 Drain. This was an error on my part. Those two capacitors isolate the DC on the tuning diodes from the Drain of the oscillator FET.

Cn you short?
On Dec 30, 2024, at 5:39?AM, Jim Harris via groups.io <radiove1rb@...> wrote:

Gary I just checked that voltage again with the band switch on 10 meters and the DC voltage at that RFC505 is 20.52 DC. Hope that helps.

Jim VE1RB

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 8:37?PM Gary Follett via??<xntrick1948=[email protected]> wrote:
What is the voltage on RFC 505?

Gary

W0DVN

On Dec 29, 2024, at 6:24?PM, Jim Harris via??<radiove1rb=[email protected]> wrote:

Worked on the VCO board today and founds that the 5 volt regulator is working just fine 5.02 VDC. So am thinking about it trying to decide what I check next. Might make a chart of voltages on the transistors from the working one and compare to the non working section.

73, Jim Ve1RB

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 11:08?PM Gary Follett via??<xntrick1948=[email protected]> wrote:
The power supply that is the subject of this issue is the 7805 regulator on the VCO board. That is the one that denies power to just the one VCO (high bands, in this case) when it fails.

Regards,

Gary

W0DVN

On Dec 28, 2024, at 8:28?PM, Tony N5DIM <tony@...> wrote:

The WB4HFN website has a section with great information related to that power supply board. I just used it to resurrect a TR7 that was DOA. Good luck. 73 Tony N5DIM?

On Dec 28, 2024, at 5:52?PM, Gary Follett via??<xntrick1948=[email protected]> wrote:

?Sounds like you are on the right track. Don¡¯t ocelot the electrolytic capacitors on that supply as well.

Gary

W0DVN

On Dec 28, 2024, at 6:12?PM, Jim Harris via??<radiove1rb=[email protected]> wrote:

Gary, I found a few minutes to work on the TR7 and discovered that the high VCO is not working at all. It does have the 10 vdc supply switch?on it but I don't know if that reulagor?is working or not. I will check it out but have to work on getting the metal shield off. I Hope that is the problem but I will work on it maybe tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.

73, Jim VE1RB

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 9:06?PM Gary Follett via??<xntrick1948=[email protected]> wrote:
It is worth asking, did the failure of your VCO board (displaying 51.950) occur on its own? That is to ask, did the radio work properly and then just fail or has it, as long as you have had it, always operated with this fault??

If it once worked for you and then failed, then it would make sense to see what gets disconnected if those pins are not in line ?and look for a way that same thing could happen without the pin alignment problem.

The pin alignment fix is pretty easy though, if the board alignment is the cause. It just SOUNDS difficult.

That whole DR7 was always a source of issues due to its complexity and difficulty of installation. I don¡¯t know how a DR7 could even endure the stresses of removal and reinsertion more than once!

Gary?

W0DVN

On Dec 27, 2024, at 6:25?PM, Jim Harris via??<radiove1rb=[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks Tom. I printed that off but hope that is not the problem.

73, Jim VE1RB

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 8:05?PM Tom Evans via??<Tom.AG9X=[email protected]> wrote:
In 2010 there was a thread regarding the Drake TR-7 display showing 51950.0 on the old retired Drakelist.

The thread is archived at?

Please click the link so the owner knows that we find the archive useful.

Hope this helps.
Tom, AG9X


================?
Below are the posts from Brian Koontz WA3ITE, Jim Shorney NU0C and Garey Barrell K4OAH (SK)?
(just in case Drake TR-7 DR-7 problems outlive the??site)


Re: [Drakelist] Almost there: TR-7 display issues -- FIXED!

Brian Koontz Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:36:54 -0700

Well, the TR-7 from hell is now a fully operational TR-7 from hell!

In preparation for some signal tracing, I decided to extend the DR-7
board using the extenders I have.? To do this, you have to unmount the
two voltage regulators mounted to the chassis, and jumper the
connector farthest to the right. ?(I didn't bother connecting the
up/down band buttons.) ?Lo and behold, the display worked!?

Some further investigation revealed that the chassis has warped over
the years, so the two 3-prong connectors on the VCO board were no
longer in a horizontal line.? So I was determined to make sure the
board was fully seated on all the connectors.

To do this, I had to drop the front panel.? Not a major chore, just
one knob to remove (the band knob) and 6 side screws. With that now
out of the way, it was an easy job to determine if all the pins were
where they belonged.? The only snag was that the front panel, when
canted downwards, angles the PTO can upwards.? So you have to hold the
front panel perpendicular and steady with slight downward pressure to
fully seat the board.? Once all the pins were visually confirmed to be
seated, I remounted the front panel, reattached the regulators and all
the connectors, and fired the rig up.? Everything now seems to work!

It turns out the original DR-7 board was indeed defective as well
(possibly because it had been seated incorrectly).? And a visual
confirmation from topside indicates the chassis is, indeed, warped:
The screw hole is misaligned with the mounting hole in the board.?

So, for archival purposes in case anyone else decides to search for
this problem: ?If the display if fixed on "51950", one possible cause
is that one or more DR-7 pins, possibly the VCO pins, are not
correctly seated.? The best solution is to drop the front panel and
confirm visually that the pins are fully seated.

Now it's time to get on the air!

??--Brian/WA3ITE


=================?

Jim Shorney Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:17:58 -0700

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:40:52 -0500, Brian Koontz wrote:

>Well, the TR-7 from hell is now a fully operational TR-7 from hell!
>
>Now it's time to get on the air!

Congratulations, Brian! You have been assimilated into the collective.
Resistance is futile.

73

-Jim



=================
?
Garey Barrell?k4oah@...?via?
Sat, Jul 31, 2010, 8:34?AM
to drakelist


Brian Koontz wrote:
> Some further investigation revealed that the chassis has warped over
> the years, so the two 3-prong connectors on the VCO board were no
> longer in a horizontal line.? So I was determined to make sure the
> board was fully seated on all the connectors.
>
>
>
> So, for archival purposes in case anyone else decides to search for
> this problem: ?If the display is fixed on "51950", one possible cause
> is that one or more DR-7 pins, possibly the VCO pins, are not
> correctly seated.? The best solution is to drop the front panel and
> confirm visually that the pins are fully seated.
>

Brian -

Congratulations!! ? It's always nice when one 'comes together'.

Just as an aside, someone suggested earlier (and correctly) that the
"51950" problem may indicate a loss of the 500 kHz reference signal.?
You might find it interesting that the left-most three pin connector on
the VCO board is the 500 kHz reference signal!

Those pins on the bottom of the DR-7 are ALWAYS a problem, ya' just
can't see 'em!!

Your 'trials' have been an interesting 'trip' for others, thanks for
documenting it for us all.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line& ?TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<>

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Re: TR-5 BPF AMP Board Oddness

Lyndon VE7TFX
 

Thanks Stan. So yours is 69 units newer than mine, and has the
standard board. I wonder how I ended up with this one? Hopefully
a few more data points will come in and help settle this (whether
it's a one-off).

The radio I got from Steve came with a box loaded with replacement
boards. It included a replacement for nearly every board in the TR-5.
But not that one :-P

If there had been a replacement, I could have swapped boards, and
then traced out the oddball. Alas ...

But there are more pressing matters at hand. Namely, figuring out
why the tx logic is being illogical. Switching to Key Lock does
nada, which is hopeful. It points the finger at the source of the
TX voltage rail being absent. Hopefully an easy one to track down.

--lyndon


Re: T4XC failure?

 

One of my rules is to never leave vintage gear running unattended, even for "just a minute".

On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:42:45 -0500
"Jay W6CJ via groups.io" <lastradioman@...> wrote:

note to self: if leaving the room, turn
stuff off

--

73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: L4B replacement potentiometer

 

Stan,

You have some great ideas!

Happy New Year,

Evan, K9SQG

On Monday, December 30, 2024 at 09:57:26 PM EST, Stan Gammons via groups.io <buttercup11421@...> wrote:


Hi Evan,

Happy New Year to you and everyone on the group!

Maybe my old post to the group will be useful /g/DRAKE-RADIO/message/33242?? Both parts are still available.


73

Stan
KM4HQE




On 12/30/24 13:27, Evan via groups.io wrote:
Fellow Drake Enthusiasts,

Happy New Year to all!!!

A while back somebody had mentioned that Mouser part number?313-1601F-100K was a direct replacement for the L4B pot, right resistance, with a push pull switch. ?However, that particular pot does not have a shaft that is long enough for the L4B. ?Might I have the part number wrong?

I already have some pots that are direct replacements after I machine the mounting collar to the right length. ?However, if there are direct replacements it would save me some time.

Can you help?

73,

Evan, K9SQG


Re: L4B replacement potentiometer

 

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Hi Evan,

Happy New Year to you and everyone on the group!

Maybe my old post to the group will be useful /g/DRAKE-RADIO/message/33242?? Both parts are still available.


73

Stan
KM4HQE




On 12/30/24 13:27, Evan via groups.io wrote:

Fellow Drake Enthusiasts,

Happy New Year to all!!!

A while back somebody had mentioned that Mouser part number?313-1601F-100K was a direct replacement for the L4B pot, right resistance, with a push pull switch. ?However, that particular pot does not have a shaft that is long enough for the L4B. ?Might I have the part number wrong?

I already have some pots that are direct replacements after I machine the mounting collar to the right length. ?However, if there are direct replacements it would save me some time.

Can you help?

73,

Evan, K9SQG


Re: T4XC failure?

 

Sorry if my keying logic was inverted.??
The open key would sometimes close long enough to produce a dit or dah, or long enough to slag my T4XC finals (note to self: if leaving the room, turn stuff off).
Didn't notice all this until I plugged the key into a HW-16.
The key was a Nye-Viking Master key, with the contacts enclosed inside the base. I may replace it with a Vibroplex bug or Bencher straight key.? Anyone tried the Vibroplex straight key?
73
Jay

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 3:39?PM Richard Knoppow via <1oldlens1=ix.netcom.com_at_groups.io_lastradioman@...> wrote:

? ? You are probably right but I was puzzled.
? ? Both Lionel and ARH keys are good keys, easy to clean. J-38 keys
were made by several manufacturers but these two, and Radio Specialties,
which is evidently the same as ARH, are the most common.

On 12/30/2024 3:18 PM, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via wrote:
> Low resistance when the contacts are open, is what I¡¯m assuming what is
> being described.
>
> I have a T-4 that went stuck in transmit but I lucked out ¡ª it wasn¡¯t
> putting out full power.? I¡¯m going to check my J-38 this evening.? It¡¯s
> conceivable for this to have picked up some schmutz over 80 years¡­
>


--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998







Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 

I have probably seen maybe 3 tubes that have failed the gas test on a tube tester.?

The remainder have taken me on various journeys through some really interesting territory. The one that really opened my eyes was one that Ronnie had sent me. I chased that AGC problem over hill and Dale. Even swapped the whole board. I then replaced all the tubes at once with ones from my known good desk R-4B. I believe there were at least two gassy tubes ¡ª which is why I was chasing my tail by replacing one at a time.?

Because of how this radio taught me that the problem can easily be more than one tube, I now do a full replacement and then put the old tubes back in, one at a time.?

Since then, I¡¯ve found that many failures of R-4C¡¯s
To pass the S meter calibration have been due to gassy tubes.?

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 20:03, Richard Knoppow via groups.io <1oldlens1@...> wrote:
Same here. Garry said it was gassy tubes, I didn't believe him but
tried new tubes anyway. Fixed it. The amount of gas is so slight it
doesn't show up on most tube tester gas tests. My TV-7 instructions
explain that the gas test is really not a valid test and show up only
the most extreme tubes.
Garry has been gone a long time now but I still miss him. We had
some private correspondence, he was not only extremely knowledgeable but
also a refined gentleman, an all around good guy.

On 12/30/2024 4:56 PM, Gary WB6OGD via groups.io wrote:
> YES, even my 13 tube R-4A had fast AVC with a gassey tube! (only until
> Garey told me I had a
> gassey tube!).
>
> But, the best tubes in an R-4B will still give the too fast AVC.? You
> can tell if an R-4B is stock by
> watching the s-meter on YouTube videos.
> 73,
> Gary
> WB6OGD


--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998







Re: TR-5 BPF AMP Board Oddness

 

Hi Lyndon,


On 12/30/24 14:20, Lyndon VE7TFX wrote:
I popped the other one open, and it has the expected board (see
attached). So it would appear that something changed between #1024
and #1051. But in my rather limited searching I can't find any
documentation related to this. If any of you have a TR-5 in the
s/n range 1025-1050 and are inclined towards doing a bit of detective
work, I'd appreciate it if you could pop off the bottom panel and
let me know which version of the board you have.

--lyndon
Mine is a later S/N, 1120.? Here's a no so up close pic of the board in
mine.

73

Stan
KM4HQE


Re: Want: List of Drake Repairers

 

Great sources.? TNX.


On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 2:36?PM Mark - WB0IQK <mgilger_at_charter.net_lastradioman@...> wrote:
Check out the last page of the following document on WB4HFN's web site.??
?
?
73's,
Mark, WB0IQK


Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 

Same here. Garry said it was gassy tubes, I didn't believe him but tried new tubes anyway. Fixed it. The amount of gas is so slight it doesn't show up on most tube tester gas tests. My TV-7 instructions explain that the gas test is really not a valid test and show up only the most extreme tubes.
Garry has been gone a long time now but I still miss him. We had some private correspondence, he was not only extremely knowledgeable but also a refined gentleman, an all around good guy.

On 12/30/2024 4:56 PM, Gary WB6OGD via groups.io wrote:
YES, even my 13 tube R-4A had fast AVC with a gassey tube! (only until Garey told me I had a
gassey tube!).
But, the best tubes in an R-4B will still give the too fast AVC.? You can tell if an R-4B is stock by
watching the s-meter on YouTube videos.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 

YES, even my 13 tube R-4A had fast AVC with a gassey tube! (only until Garey told me I had a
gassey tube!).

But, the best tubes in an R-4B will still give the too fast AVC.? You can tell if an R-4B is stock by
watching the s-meter on YouTube videos.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD


On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 4:49?PM Richard Knoppow via <1oldlens1=[email protected]> wrote:
? ? ?You have my sympathy with your move. My least favorite thing is
moving. Done it too often in the past. Right up there with surgery but
at least with surgery someone else does it for you.
? ? ?I found the AVC on my 4B is sensitive to gassy tubes. If gassy the
AVC acts as you describe rather than hanging.

On 12/30/2024 4:29 PM, Gary WB6OGD via wrote:
> Richard,
> I think the Product Detector mod is quite worthwhile.
> If you've ever used an R-4 or R-4A(13 tube) you will notice its? VERY
> nice and slow AVC on ssb.
> You can see the s-meter virtually hang on the highest audio peaks.
> Drake eliminated the tube product detector and went to two diodes in the
> 11 tube R-4A and kept it to the last R-4C (I believe).
> It was simpler, solid state but it caused detected audio to get back
> into the AVC, making it into a Fast (or medium) AVC.
> You can watch the s-meter dance around on sylables and hear the harsher
> audio as noise is allowed in between sylables.
> Rob also found problems like the signal exceeding the BFO on AVC attack
> (if I recall correctly) and that may be.. but that's
> above my pay grade, I never noticed that.? But now my R-4B sounds like
> my old 13 tube R-4A with its slow AVC.
> I gave away a lot of boards, someone may be able to give you one.? I
> might have a few more if I can find them after my move.
> My board is SMD.? The NE-602/SA-612(?) is now obsolete, you might have
> to get some from china?
> 73,
> Gary
> WB6OGD
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998







Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 

You have my sympathy with your move. My least favorite thing is moving. Done it too often in the past. Right up there with surgery but at least with surgery someone else does it for you.
I found the AVC on my 4B is sensitive to gassy tubes. If gassy the AVC acts as you describe rather than hanging.

On 12/30/2024 4:29 PM, Gary WB6OGD via groups.io wrote:
Richard,
I think the Product Detector mod is quite worthwhile.
If you've ever used an R-4 or R-4A(13 tube) you will notice its? VERY nice and slow AVC on ssb.
You can see the s-meter virtually hang on the highest audio peaks.
Drake eliminated the tube product detector and went to two diodes in the 11 tube R-4A and kept it to the last R-4C (I believe).
It was simpler, solid state but it caused detected audio to get back into the AVC, making it into a Fast (or medium) AVC.
You can watch the s-meter dance around on sylables and hear the harsher audio as noise is allowed in between sylables.
Rob also found problems like the signal exceeding the BFO on AVC attack (if I recall correctly) and that may be.. but that's
above my pay grade, I never noticed that.? But now my R-4B sounds like my old 13 tube R-4A with its slow AVC.
I gave away a lot of boards, someone may be able to give you one.? I might have a few more if I can find them after my move.
My board is SMD.? The NE-602/SA-612(?) is now obsolete, you might have to get some from china?
73,
Gary
WB6OGD
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 

Richard,
I think the Product Detector mod is quite worthwhile.
?
If you've ever used an R-4 or R-4A(13 tube) you will notice its? VERY nice and slow AVC on ssb.
You can see the s-meter virtually hang on the highest audio peaks.
?
Drake eliminated the tube product detector and went to two diodes in the 11 tube R-4A and kept it to the last R-4C (I believe).
It was simpler, solid state but it caused detected audio to get back into the AVC, making it into a Fast (or medium) AVC.
You can watch the s-meter dance around on sylables and hear the harsher audio as noise is allowed in between sylables.
?
Rob also found problems like the signal exceeding the BFO on AVC attack (if I recall correctly) and that may be.. but that's
above my pay grade, I never noticed that.? But now my R-4B sounds like my old 13 tube R-4A with its slow AVC.
?
I gave away a lot of boards, someone may be able to give you one.? I might have a few more if I can find them after my move.
My board is SMD.? The NE-602/SA-612(?) is now obsolete, you might have to get some from china?
?
73,
Gary
WB6OGD
?
?


Re: TR-7A No Output

 

Good on you, Craig.? Glad you got your honey back singing!

David Assaf III
W5XU, VP8RXU
?


On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 6:17?PM Craig W8CS via <craig_severson=[email protected]> wrote:
Victory! I now have keyed CW output on all bands.?
?
  • The main culprit was the switched +5V bias regulator U2301 on the final amp board. No + output from this 7805 and switched +13.6V going into it. This was relatively easy to find after I started checking voltages and seeing nothing on the bias circuitry.?
  • After replacing this 7805, still no output. I could see that the regulator was producing switched +5V but not getting to the rest of the board. I had to get to the lower traces of the PA board which was a chore since I did not see that the final amp transistors had TWO small allen head screws attaching them. You have to bend some parts out of the way to get to them and release the board from the heat sink.?
  • Once the board was liberated, I could see that I didn't have a "trace" issue, the output of the regulator was apparently not soldered down correctly so a heating of the joint from the bottom side cured that.?
Really cool to be able to put this dude back into service after a twenty year lay-off. That receiver is so sweet.?
?
Thanks for the hand, everyone.?
--
Craig/W8CS
Greenville, SC


Re: TR-7A No Output

 

Victory! I now have keyed CW output on all bands.?
?
  • The main culprit was the switched +5V bias regulator U2301 on the final amp board. No + output from this 7805 and switched +13.6V going into it. This was relatively easy to find after I started checking voltages and seeing nothing on the bias circuitry.?
  • After replacing this 7805, still no output. I could see that the regulator was producing switched +5V but not getting to the rest of the board. I had to get to the lower traces of the PA board which was a chore since I did not see that the final amp transistors had TWO small allen head screws attaching them. You have to bend some parts out of the way to get to them and release the board from the heat sink.?
  • Once the board was liberated, I could see that I didn't have a "trace" issue, the output of the regulator was apparently not soldered down correctly so a heating of the joint from the bottom side cured that.?
Really cool to be able to put this dude back into service after a twenty year lay-off. That receiver is so sweet.?
?
Thanks for the hand, everyone.?
--
Craig/W8CS
Greenville, SC


Re: TR-5 BPF AMP Board Oddness

 

That is the cover I took off with the hole itn it near the back of the chassis. Sorry I will take the bottom cover off again and try to do better hi hi

Jim Ve1RB

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 6:14?PM Lyndon VE7TFX via <lyndon=[email protected]> wrote:
Jim, you're looking at the wrong board.? The picture you sent is
of the pre-mixer board.? The board you want is accessed through the
bottom of the chassis.? Open the radio on its back, with the rear
panel facing you.? The BPF Amp board is on the left side, above the
compartment where the output filters live.

See the picture on page 5-9 of the manual.

--lyndon






Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 

Found your file and downloaded it to my Drake file.

On 12/30/2024 3:24 PM, Gary WB6OGD via groups.io wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
Richard,
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 

No, I never got a board. I am familiar with Rob's upgrades for the R4C but didn't know about the B. The B is really a very good receiver and doesn't seem to need much help but I am always interested in improvements.

On 12/30/2024 3:19 PM, Gary WB6OGD via groups.io wrote:
Richard,
Look in the Files section for my file:
"Product Detector board instructions.doc"
(I should have put a better title on it!)
This was for my version of Rob's board and how I installed it in my R-4B.? I think its a little easier
than Rob's method, I left all Drake parts in place and just cut one small Drake trace.
My pcb is slightly smaller than Rob's too, so it fit in really nicely. I sent out my extra boards, maybe
you got one?
73,
Gary
WB6OGD
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: T4XC failure?

 

You are probably right but I was puzzled.
Both Lionel and ARH keys are good keys, easy to clean. J-38 keys were made by several manufacturers but these two, and Radio Specialties, which is evidently the same as ARH, are the most common.

On 12/30/2024 3:18 PM, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io wrote:
Low resistance when the contacts are open, is what I¡¯m assuming what is being described.
I have a T-4 that went stuck in transmit but I lucked out ¡ª it wasn¡¯t putting out full power. ?I¡¯m going to check my J-38 this evening. ?It¡¯s conceivable for this to have picked up some schmutz over 80 years¡­
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: R-4A BFO Gremlins

 
Edited

Richard,
Look in the Files section for my file:
?
"Product Detector board instructions.doc"
(I should have put a better title on it!)
?
This was for my version of Rob's board and how I installed it in my R-4B.? I think its a little easier
than Rob's method, I left all Drake parts in place and just cut one small Drake trace.
My pcb is slightly smaller than Rob's too, so it fit in really nicely.? I sent out my extra boards, maybe
you got one?
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NOTE: there is another file "MouserParts.xls"? that has the parts list for my board.
I am not sure why these files are not in their own folder..?
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73,
Gary
WB6OGD
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