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Re: Drake SW4 issues

 

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I suspect the AGC, too but haven¡¯t figured out how it works. I don¡¯t have a full size schematic, and have to flip between three iPad pages to see the schematic.


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On Dec 16, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Bob Loving <bob.loving@...> wrote:

One would think RL Drake would not produce a receiver that overloaded with any reasonable signal strength. By that I mean any signal within the range of the S-meter.

I'd look at the AGC string.

73 ES GL,?
Bob Loving K9JU
Maryville, TN


On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 02:48:27 PM EST, Art Delibert <radio75a3@...> wrote:


It's been some years since I had an SW4A, but I certainly don't remember overloading issues on the AM BC band (or anywhere else).? When I first got it, I lived in the NY City area, and later in Washington, DC, both of which have no shortage of high-power AM stations.

Art Delibert, KB3FJO


Re: Drake SW4 issues

 

One would think RL Drake would not produce a receiver that overloaded with any reasonable signal strength. By that I mean any signal within the range of the S-meter.

I'd look at the AGC string.

73 ES GL,?
Bob Loving K9JU
Maryville, TN


On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 02:48:27 PM EST, Art Delibert <radio75a3@...> wrote:


It's been some years since I had an SW4A, but I certainly don't remember overloading issues on the AM BC band (or anywhere else).? When I first got it, I lived in the NY City area, and later in Washington, DC, both of which have no shortage of high-power AM stations.

Art Delibert, KB3FJO


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike bryce <prosolar@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 12:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] Drake SW4 issues
?

Hi, gang,

I have a SW4 that I listen to the local AM broadcast stations from time to time. The other night in the shack, I had it playing in the background and when I called it a night, I noticed the receiver was dark. Long story short, it popped a fuse, replaced said fuse, popped it again. Replaced the 1000mf@16v caps. Replaced diodes, some were shorted, and one open.

Life is good. Receiver powered up, I¡¯m listening to the local 1480kHz station.

However!!

When I peak the preselector, the audio distorts like it¡¯s being overdriven, back the preselector down a bit and nice clean audio. I for the life of me don¡¯t remember if the radio distorted on strong signals before or not. I¡¯m talking 20+ over S-9 signals from radio talk 1480. I tested the tubes, clean contacts, did the usual things.

So, before I start chasing my tail down the rabbit hole, is AM broadcast overload an issue with the SW4?

Mike, wb8vge





Re: Possibly a 500 Hz Filter for TR-4Cw

 

I am interested in a Drake TR-4 front panel

Marty


From: "Kevin Kampman" <k8kvn@...>
To: "DRAKE-RADIO" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 10:49:08 AM
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Possibly a 500 Hz Filter for TR-4Cw

I just bought WA8SAJ¡¯s inventory of Drake crystals, filters and parts. I have not had time to inventory what I have, but send a picture of what you are looking for and I¡¯ll see if I have it.?


--
73, Kevin, K8KVN



Re: Possibly a 500 Hz Filter for TR-4Cw

 

I just bought WA8SAJ¡¯s inventory of Drake crystals, filters and parts. I have not had time to inventory what I have, but send a picture of what you are looking for and I¡¯ll see if I have it.?


--
73, Kevin, K8KVN


Re: Drake SW4 issues

 

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It's been some years since I had an SW4A, but I certainly don't remember overloading issues on the AM BC band (or anywhere else).? When I first got it, I lived in the NY City area, and later in Washington, DC, both of which have no shortage of high-power AM stations.

Art Delibert, KB3FJO


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike bryce <prosolar@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 12:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] Drake SW4 issues
?

Hi, gang,

I have a SW4 that I listen to the local AM broadcast stations from time to time. The other night in the shack, I had it playing in the background and when I called it a night, I noticed the receiver was dark. Long story short, it popped a fuse, replaced said fuse, popped it again. Replaced the 1000mf@16v caps. Replaced diodes, some were shorted, and one open.

Life is good. Receiver powered up, I¡¯m listening to the local 1480kHz station.

However!!

When I peak the preselector, the audio distorts like it¡¯s being overdriven, back the preselector down a bit and nice clean audio. I for the life of me don¡¯t remember if the radio distorted on strong signals before or not. I¡¯m talking 20+ over S-9 signals from radio talk 1480. I tested the tubes, clean contacts, did the usual things.

So, before I start chasing my tail down the rabbit hole, is AM broadcast overload an issue with the SW4?

Mike, wb8vge





Re: Drake SW4 issues

 

How close to the transmitter are you?

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:49, mike bryce <prosolar@...> wrote:

Hi, gang,

I have a SW4 that I listen to the local AM broadcast stations from time to time. The other night in the shack, I had it playing in the background and when I called it a night, I noticed the receiver was dark. Long story short, it popped a fuse, replaced said fuse, popped it again. Replaced the 1000mf@16v caps. Replaced diodes, some were shorted, and one open.

Life is good. Receiver powered up, I¡¯m listening to the local 1480kHz station.

However!!

When I peak the preselector, the audio distorts like it¡¯s being overdriven, back the preselector down a bit and nice clean audio. I for the life of me don¡¯t remember if the radio distorted on strong signals before or not. I¡¯m talking 20+ over S-9 signals from radio talk 1480. I tested the tubes, clean contacts, did the usual things.

So, before I start chasing my tail down the rabbit hole, is AM broadcast overload an issue with the SW4?

Mike, wb8vge





Drake SW4 issues

 

Hi, gang,

I have a SW4 that I listen to the local AM broadcast stations from time to time. The other night in the shack, I had it playing in the background and when I called it a night, I noticed the receiver was dark. Long story short, it popped a fuse, replaced said fuse, popped it again. Replaced the 1000mf@16v caps. Replaced diodes, some were shorted, and one open.

Life is good. Receiver powered up, I¡¯m listening to the local 1480kHz station.

However!!

When I peak the preselector, the audio distorts like it¡¯s being overdriven, back the preselector down a bit and nice clean audio. I for the life of me don¡¯t remember if the radio distorted on strong signals before or not. I¡¯m talking 20+ over S-9 signals from radio talk 1480. I tested the tubes, clean contacts, did the usual things.

So, before I start chasing my tail down the rabbit hole, is AM broadcast overload an issue with the SW4?

Mike, wb8vge


Dial disk for R4 Aux Crystal Switch

 

I think I may have asked before about this, but I've been looking for a replacement Aux crystal disk for a r4/r4c. I'm working on can R4C and this is the last part I need. It is clear and about 2 1/8" in diameter with an oblong hole in the middle to fit over the switch shaft. There are two spacer washers (I think?). Would anyone have one of these unobtanium pieces they would part with????
Thanks?
Tim KD2SC?


Re: Possibly a 500 Hz Filter for TR-4Cw

 

This one is on the Schulman auction site and is a Network Sciences (I think that's the name of the manufacturer), which produced many, many filters for the Drake receivers/transceivers.

I did ask the guy at Noble if he had any intention of making 9 MHz filters for the TR-3/4/6 and he told me that there wasn't enough demand.? This was back when I had a dud narrow filter in my TR-4Cw.? I was fortunate (and stubborn enough) to be able to get the filter apart (you need a woodworker's vise and a propane torch) and I isolated the failure to one bad crystal. I baked it and it revived (whew!).? My alternative would have been to remove the matching crystal on the other end and end up with a 4-pole filter, as the narrow 9 MHz filters are virtually Unobtanium.

There is a guy who shows up on the "RL Drake" Facebook group who is trying to rebuild a soupcan filter in his TR-3.? I salute his dedication but the crystals are going to cost multiples of what the TR-3 is worth.

For those of you who are considering converting their regular TR-4/C, you'll need the switch (it's 3-position, instead of 2) and a small angle bracket to mount the filter under where the other two filters live.

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent with secure email.

On Saturday, December 16th, 2023 at 9:08 AM, Dale Parfitt <PARINC1@...> wrote:

I wonder if these fitters are from Daryl Kemper, the brains behind Network Science. Being an inveterate? crystal filter design myself, I had the opportunity to speak with Daryl several times. Always generous with his time and perhaps the brightest? engineer in the world with regard to crystals and filters.

Dale W4OP


Re: Possibly a 500 Hz Filter for TR-4Cw

 

I wonder if these fitters are from Daryl Kemper, the brains behind Network Science. Being an inveterate? crystal filter design myself, I had the opportunity to speak with Daryl several times. Always generous with his time and perhaps the brightest? engineer in the world with regard to crystals and filters.

Dale W4OP


Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

I¡¯ll try the nice way first. My wife used to deal with them years ago when she was the office manager at ARC.?

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 21:23, Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:

If you want to get their attention maybe click the review button and give them a 1 star review explaining how they got it so wrong. Really, what were they thinking? Even someone who has never seen a Drake should be able to see what's wrong with that picture...

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:01:55 +0000
"Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io" <w1es@...> wrote:

> Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
>
> Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡­
>
> I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.
>
> The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
>
> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
>
> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>
> Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <[ve7ps@...](mailto:On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <<a href=)> wrote:
>
> > Steve:
> >
> > I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
> >
> > On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....
> >
> > https://www.radiodaze.com/drake-r4-c-dial-set-item-ds-a834/
> >
> > Mystery solved!
> >
> > 73
> > Peter
> > VE7PS
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io <w1es@...> wrote:
> >
> >> This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.
> >>
> >> Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
> >>
> >> Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.
> >>
> >> See the pic.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
> >>
> >> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
> >>
> >> Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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73

-Jim
NU0C






Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

Yeah, I made the 10¡¯s disc get a milky spot and lose some of the ink by using an ultrasonic cleaner and regular soap. It was trash, anyway, and I can use the new one with a little drilling.?

Folks, don¡¯t use an ultrasonic cleaner on these discs! (Also, if you ultrasound the knobs, you¡¯ll need to redo the white paint!). The gears came out spiffy, though?

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 20:59, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote:
I have a TR7 PTO with a pretty trashed disk. Somebody apparently tried
to "clean" it with a powerful solvent, which penetrated between the
plastic
and I guess the outer stencil ( with the lines ) and turned the plastic
a
blotchy, milky white.

- Jerry, KF6VB


On 2023-12-15 17:16, VE7PS wrote:
> Steve:
>
> Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my
> opinion. I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of
> spinning lines! Might be worth letting Radio Daze know of their
> error.
>
> Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking
> pretty ugly too.
>
> On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever"
> PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO,
> starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last
> version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes
> for the rivets, but no rivets were used. At least that's what I make
> of them from what I have observed and photographed so far.
>
> 73
> Peter
> VE7PS
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
> [3] <w1es@...> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there
>> aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
>>
>> Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡­
>>
>> I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to
>> either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and
>> remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial
>> is a big deal for him, I know.
>>
>> The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
>>
>> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
>>
>> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail [1] for iOS
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <ve7ps@... [2]> wrote:
>> Steve:
>>
>> I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line
>> dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
>>
>> On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake
>> replacement dials. Take a look here....
>>
>> https://www.radiodaze.com/drake-r4-c-dial-set-item-ds-a834/
>>
>> Mystery solved!
>>
>> 73
>> Peter
>> VE7PS
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
>> [3] <w1es@...> wrote:
>>
>> This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I
>> removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained
>> frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me
>> doing some drilling.
>>
>> Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around
>> the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
>>
>> Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m
>> guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not
>> familiar with the Drake dials.
>>
>> See the pic.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
>>
>> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail [1] for iOS
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://proton.me/mail/home
> [2] http://www.jm-properties.com/target=
> [3] http://groups.io
> [4] /g/DRAKE-RADIO/message/75010
> [5] /mt/103199959/243852
> [6] /g/DRAKE-RADIO/post
> [7] /g/DRAKE-RADIO/editsub/243852
> [8]
> /g/DRAKE-RADIO/leave/12260778/243852/767576506/xyzzy






Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

Yeah, I¡¯m thinking that the disc won¡¯t be usable. The old?100¡¯s disc isn¡¯t as bad as the 10¡¯s. Going to try using Novus on the 100¡¯s disc and try staying away from the numerals.?

I¡¯m going to see if someone at RD could see to it to correct the main problem.?

I have a Dremel and very small drill bits. I can probably take care of the rivet?holes.?

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 20:16, VE7PS <ve7ps@...> wrote:
Steve:

Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my opinion. I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of spinning lines! Might be worth letting Radio Daze know of their error.

Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking pretty ugly too.

On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever" PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO, starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes for the rivets, but no rivets were used. At least that's what I make of them from what I have observed and photographed so far.
73
Peter
VE7PS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.

Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡­

I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.

The rig, itself, is already a disaster.

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <ve7ps@...> wrote:
Steve:

I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.

On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....



Mystery solved!

73
Peter
VE7PS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es=[email protected]> wrote:
This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.

Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.

Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.

See the pic.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

If you want to get their attention maybe click the review button and give them a 1 star review explaining how they got it so wrong. Really, what were they thinking? Even someone who has never seen a Drake should be able to see what's wrong with that picture...

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:01:55 +0000
"Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io" <w1es@...> wrote:

Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.

Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡­

I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.

The rig, itself, is already a disaster.

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent from [Proton Mail]() for iOS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <[ve7ps@...](mailto:On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <<a href=)> wrote:

Steve:

I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.

On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....



Mystery solved!

73
Peter
VE7PS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io <w1es@...> wrote:

This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.

Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.

Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.

See the pic.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent from [Proton Mail]() for iOS




--

73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

I have a TR7 PTO with a pretty trashed disk. Somebody apparently tried
to "clean" it with a powerful solvent, which penetrated between the plastic
and I guess the outer stencil ( with the lines ) and turned the plastic a
blotchy, milky white.

- Jerry, KF6VB

On 2023-12-15 17:16, VE7PS wrote:
Steve:
Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my
opinion. I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of
spinning lines! Might be worth letting Radio Daze know of their
error.
Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking
pretty ugly too.
On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever"
PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO,
starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last
version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes
for the rivets, but no rivets were used. At least that's what I make
of them from what I have observed and photographed so far.
73
Peter
VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
[3] <w1es@...> wrote:

Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there
aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.
Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡­
I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to
either try and polish-up the existing 100¡¯s disc or try and
remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial
is a big deal for him, I know.
The rig, itself, is already a disaster.
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent from Proton Mail [1] for iOS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <ve7ps@... [2]> wrote:
Steve:
I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line
dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.
On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake
replacement dials. Take a look here....

Mystery solved!
73
Peter
VE7PS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
[3] <w1es@...> wrote:
This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I
removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained
frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me
doing some drilling.
Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around
the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.
Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m
guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not
familiar with the Drake dials.
See the pic.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent from Proton Mail [1] for iOS
Links:
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[1]
[2]
[3]
[4] /g/DRAKE-RADIO/message/75010
[5] /mt/103199959/243852
[6] /g/DRAKE-RADIO/post
[7] /g/DRAKE-RADIO/editsub/243852
[8] /g/DRAKE-RADIO/leave/12260778/243852/767576506/xyzzy


Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

Steve:

Putting those "Khz lines" on the 100's dial is a serious error in my opinion.? I can't imagine how awful that would look with two sets of spinning lines!? Might be worth letting Radio?Daze know of their error.

Think that trying to remove them is going to leave that dial looking pretty ugly too.

On the holes in the plastic dial......I believe the early "no lever" PTO had two holes for the brass rivets, and the two lever PTO, starting at around 21,000 serial # in the R-4C, had three. The last version of the PTO with metal anti-backlash gears had the three holes for the rivets, but no rivets were used.? At least that's what I make of them from what I have observed and photographed so far.
?
73
Peter
VE7PS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 5:02?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.?

Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡­

I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing ?100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.?

The rig, itself, is already a disaster.?

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <ve7ps@...> wrote:
Steve:

I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.

On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....



Mystery solved!

73
Peter
VE7PS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es=[email protected]> wrote:
This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.

Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.

Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.

See the pic.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


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Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

Thanks, Peter. That solves the mystery and tells me that there aren¡¯t any alternatives from them.?

Well, this is another fine mess I¡¯ve gotten myself into¡­

I need to wait for a reply from the owner. The alternative is to either try and polish-up the existing ?100¡¯s disc or try and remove the markings ¡ª which could disfigure the new disc. The dial is a big deal for him, I know.?

The rig, itself, is already a disaster.?

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 18:18, VE7PS <ve7ps@...> wrote:
Steve:

I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.

On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials. Take a look here....



Mystery solved!

73
Peter
VE7PS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es=[email protected]> wrote:
This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.

Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.

Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.

See the pic.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


Re: Ebay Global Shipping

 

Absolutely agree! I avoid American sellers like the plague now because of the insane shipping prices. There is no consistency on EBay either, if you do a search on Collins R390¡¯s?some of them will ship for $300, others are over $1000! I recently was quoted $40 to ship 2 press button caps - around 10mm square!

However I can ship things for perfectly reasonable prices from UK, Germany, even Ukraine. Unfortunately there is no way to block search results from the US¡­

Cheers,
Peter VK2AN


On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 05:56 AM, Lyndon VE7TFX wrote:

Ebay Global Shipping would be a laugh riot if it wasn't so pathetic.

I regularly receive items from Asia and eastern Europe is half the
time it takes something to travel here from Washington state (a 30
minute drive). And at 1/3 the shipping cost.

Anything shipped via Ebay Global Shipping from the US spends a week
trandling to Carol Stream IL, where it then spends another week
orbiting Chicago before finally being spit out of the vortex and
landing in Toronto. It then spends another week trundling back
across the country before it finally lands on my doorstep. Nothing
arrives here in less than three weeks. And the costs are obscene.

What finally drove me over the edge was paying US$17 shipping for
what turned out to be a single 11x17 inch sheet of paper.

Now I avoid US sellers like the plague. Lots of gear is available
from Japan, gets here in < 10 days, and often shipping is free.
With Ebay's usurious shipping system, why would I ever want to buy
from a US seller again?

--lyndon


Re: C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

Steve:

I checked my file of PTO teardowns for all 4 types of Drake C-line dials and did not see a 100's dial like this one.

On a hunch I checked Radio Daze, knowing they supply Drake replacement dials.? Take a look here....



Mystery solved!

73
Peter
VE7PS

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:07?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es=[email protected]> wrote:
This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.?

Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.?

Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this?? I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.?

See the pic.?

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


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C Line 100¡¯s Frequency Disc

 

This R-4C I¡¯ve been working on continues to challenge me. I removed the PTO to replace the pretty horribly-scratched and stained frequency discs and neither of them are going to fit without me doing some drilling.?

Worse, though, is that the 100¡¯s disc has tick marks all around the edge ¡ª like the 10¡¯s disc.?

Was there ever any Drake PTO from the period that had this? ?I¡¯m guessing that these discs were made for the owner by someone not familiar with the Drake dials.?

See the pic.?

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS