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Re: TR7 extenders

 

The one you really want is the "Jumper" board. It is by far the one I have used the most. It allows you to do tests on the radio without the DR7 installed. I rarely use any of the other extenders.

Here is what the original Drake extenders look like:



73

-Jim
NU0C

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:49:17 -0700
"JP Nery via groups.io" <jpnery@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,

Can anyone here write back and tell me the height of TR7 boards.? I am building sets of extender boards and need that dimension.

Also, if there are technicians here willing to test my extender sets, please write back.

Tu & 73

John WA1ESO@...

401-624-4576





Re: What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

 

The PLATE meter also went from 400 to 500 mA full scale. Mic jack moved to the side.?

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from Proton Mail for iOS


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 15:21, Rob Sherwood <rob@...> wrote:
The major change was 8-pole TX filters instead of 4 pole. Then the T-4XC came out with "locked transceive" which had never existed previously. (Meaning there was not an RX vs. TX frequency error.) Rob, NC0B

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Loken
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 12:19 PM
To: drake mail list
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

The subject says it all: what did Drake change when they went from the
T4X and the T4XB? Was there a T4XA?
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken@... ** : - Arthur Black











Re: TR7 extenders

 

John,

I scanned a full set of original Drake extender boards as well as the DR-7 jumper board and a NB-7 jumper board.

Hopefully this provides what you need.

I'll leave them in a Dropbox folder for a week or so and then delete.


73,
Tom, AG9X


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:49?AM JP Nery via <jpnery=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Folks,

Can anyone here write back and tell me the height of TR7 boards.? I am building sets of extender boards and need that dimension.

Also, if there are technicians here willing to test my extender sets, please write back.

Tu & 73

John WA1ESO@...

401-624-4576
_._,_._,_


Re: What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

 

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:

Gee, Richard, you could just box it up and send it back to me :-)
I could do that but where would you put yet more radios? And the postage
would knock another hole in your bank account.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken@... ** : - Arthur Black


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

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Here is link to pictures of the switch.? Wish they were better pictures but that is all I have.? Ignore the paint finish pictures at end.? I also refinished the cabinet.

Paul K0UYA

On 3/13/2023 4:06 PM, Peter A wrote:

?Paul Kraemer
5:56pm???

Peter et al

I got the message(s) and I can help with that switch replacement.? I was able to find an inexpensive switch on ebay and "adapt" it to repair the MN200 to "better than new".? The switch is basically Soviet or Eastern Europe manufacture, rugged, fits same space.? The only mod to the switch is remove extra wafers from the back end and mount it backwards in the tuner.? You can cut the switch shaft short or leave it to protrude through the rear panel.? A shaft coupling is used to mate the Drake selector knob shaft extension to the new switch.? Both the switch shaft and the selector shaft are flatted and do not line up.? To ensure a sturdy coupling you need to drill a new set screw hole in the coupling to compensate for the alignment.? That makes the set screws land on the flatted shafts.? I made my own coupling from a short piece of 1/2" dia aluminum rod.? EASY and it stays indexed even if the screws are loose.

The Drake switch had back to back contacts on a single wafer.? The new switch I used two wafers wired together..

If the switch can't be found on ebay I have an extra.

I 'll find the picture file and hopefully someone can put them on the reflector archives.

IT IS A NICE REPAIR---NO KLUDGE.

Paul K0UYA

Paul, that sounds fantastic.? Anyhow, I like a challenge so wouldn't want an exact replacement anyway.? HIHI.? If you remember the ebay seller that'd be helpful also.
appreciate everything.
Thank you Paul.
Peter
VE9KX


Re: What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
 

Richard Loken writes:

I also have a C line but that is a waste since I have all the skill and
ambition of the Saksatchewan farmers I knew as a schoolboy who parked their
Galaxy Vs on 3785kHz and chatted to their friends down the road every night.
Gee, Richard, you could just box it up and send it back to me :-)

--lyndon


Re: RV75 Issues

 

I have experienced dirty pushbuttons and small electrolytics that failed miserably in my RV75. They were Capar branded. If you have those replace them.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 10:23:47 -0700
"Rick Boswell" <frboswell@...> wrote:

I began checking out a new-to-me RV75 this AM and am seeing some issues I dont yet understand. These are:

1. While the RV75 seems to be working in a basic fashion, the frequency displayed on the TR7 varies by as much a 2 KHz over time, even with an extneded warmup and without touching the tuning knob.
2. It is nearly impossible to set the frequenciny to the desired 100 Hz increment; very small movements of the tuning knob produce a few hundred Hz change in the displayed frequency.
3. The "Fixed Frequency" feature does not display the programmed frequency. Programming is a bit convoluted but I have verified several times that the switch settings are as described in the manual.

This is a a late serial number RV75 in very nice overall condition and was serviced by Ron Baker in 2015; his invoice shows only minimal work needed. My TR7 works as expected with an RV7 in place of the RV75.

So, wondering how best to proceed. Problems may be pilot error due to lack of familiarity, but if so, not clear what the pilot is doing wrong. I have a manual? but am reluctant to dive into troubleshooting without a better understanding as to what might cause these symptoms. Any guidance appreciated.

Rick
K8EZB





Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 06:06 PM, John K5MO wrote:
While it's not easy to determine the exact size of that switch wafer in the photos, I have successfully repaired similar elements by transplanting contacts from an avaialable? switch after carefully removing the small rivet. I believe I found those miniature rivets somewhere or used #0 sized hardware. The job was an an AL80 and the repair? was not as difficult as it initially looked.
John? K5MO................................

I was prepared to do just that John, meaning drill the rivets, replace contacts from another wafer but I think the actual contact plates themselves are a bit rough.
Peter
VE9KX


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 


?Paul Kraemer
5:56pm???

Peter et al

I got the message(s) and I can help with that switch replacement.? I was able to find an inexpensive switch on ebay and "adapt" it to repair the MN200 to "better than new".? The switch is basically Soviet or Eastern Europe manufacture, rugged, fits same space.? The only mod to the switch is remove extra wafers from the back end and mount it backwards in the tuner.? You can cut the switch shaft short or leave it to protrude through the rear panel.? A shaft coupling is used to mate the Drake selector knob shaft extension to the new switch.? Both the switch shaft and the selector shaft are flatted and do not line up.? To ensure a sturdy coupling you need to drill a new set screw hole in the coupling to compensate for the alignment.? That makes the set screws land on the flatted shafts.? I made my own coupling from a short piece of 1/2" dia aluminum rod.? EASY and it stays indexed even if the screws are loose.

The Drake switch had back to back contacts on a single wafer.? The new switch I used two wafers wired together..

If the switch can't be found on ebay I have an extra.

I 'll find the picture file and hopefully someone can put them on the reflector archives.

IT IS A NICE REPAIR---NO KLUDGE.

Paul K0UYA

Paul, that sounds fantastic.? Anyhow, I like a challenge so wouldn't want an exact replacement anyway.? HIHI.? If you remember the ebay seller that'd be helpful also.
appreciate everything.
Thank you Paul.
Peter
VE9KX


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

While it's not easy to determine the exact size of that switch wafer in the photos, I have successfully repaired similar elements by transplanting contacts from an avaialable? switch after carefully removing the small rivet. I believe I found those miniature rivets somewhere or used #0 sized hardware. The job was an an AL80 and the repair? was not as difficult as it initially looked.

John? K5MO


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 4:56?PM Paul Kraemer <elespe@...> wrote:

Peter et al

I got the message(s) and I can help with that switch replacement.? I was able to find an inexpensive switch on ebay and "adapt" it to repair the MN200 to "better than new".? The switch is basically Soviet or Eastern Europe manufacture, rugged, fits same space.? The only mod to the switch is remove extra wafers from the back end and mount it backwards in the tuner.? You can cut the switch shaft short or leave it to protrude through the rear panel.? A shaft coupling is used to mate the Drake selector knob shaft extension to the new switch.? Both the switch shaft and the selector shaft are flatted and do not line up.? To ensure a sturdy coupling you need to drill a new set screw hole in the coupling to compensate for the alignment.? That makes the set screws land on the flatted shafts.? I made my own coupling from a short piece of 1/2" dia aluminum rod.? EASY and it stays indexed even if the screws are loose.

The Drake switch had back to back contacts on a single wafer.? The new switch I used two wafers wired together..

If the switch can't be found on ebay I have an extra.

I 'll find the picture file and hopefully someone can put them on the reflector archives.

IT IS A NICE REPAIR---NO KLUDGE.

Paul K0UYA

On 3/13/2023 10:16 AM, Peter A wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello to all.? It's been a minute since posting here but I keep up to date on what's up just the same.? Always interesting and informative.? This spring will be Delhi tower antenna erection, and hopefully get some of my Drake stuff on the air!? Difficulty deciding on a "multiband beam".? Either the Hy-gain TH-11DX or Optibeam OB9-HD5.? Anyway I'll figure it out eventually I guess.? Now to the point of this post.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Wondering if anyone has an MN-2000?antenna switch?ceramic wafer they want to part with"? Previous owner "hot switched" and fried a few
contacts.? I've removed the wafer over the weekend.? I tried the ebay seller "networkrw" and he was very hopeful he could help, but it didn't pan out as he couldn't find one close enough.
Contacted Ron Wb4hfn but he said he didn't have that part.? Any ideas of where to source something suitable even with a little modification?
I understand that a replacement was available from Russia but I doubt that's not an option at this point.
I'd appreciate any info that may help.? I know about the direction of "drilling out" the rivets and swapping contacts with another wafer and using very small bolts to hold them in but is this the only option available, and I'm not even sure the contact plates would be good enough anyway?
I've looked at the older posts asking the same question but they're limited.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
73
Peter
VE9KX


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

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Peter et al

I got the message(s) and I can help with that switch replacement.? I was able to find an inexpensive switch on ebay and "adapt" it to repair the MN200 to "better than new".? The switch is basically Soviet or Eastern Europe manufacture, rugged, fits same space.? The only mod to the switch is remove extra wafers from the back end and mount it backwards in the tuner.? You can cut the switch shaft short or leave it to protrude through the rear panel.? A shaft coupling is used to mate the Drake selector knob shaft extension to the new switch.? Both the switch shaft and the selector shaft are flatted and do not line up.? To ensure a sturdy coupling you need to drill a new set screw hole in the coupling to compensate for the alignment.? That makes the set screws land on the flatted shafts.? I made my own coupling from a short piece of 1/2" dia aluminum rod.? EASY and it stays indexed even if the screws are loose.

The Drake switch had back to back contacts on a single wafer.? The new switch I used two wafers wired together..

If the switch can't be found on ebay I have an extra.

I 'll find the picture file and hopefully someone can put them on the reflector archives.

IT IS A NICE REPAIR---NO KLUDGE.

Paul K0UYA

On 3/13/2023 10:16 AM, Peter A wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello to all.? It's been a minute since posting here but I keep up to date on what's up just the same.? Always interesting and informative.? This spring will be Delhi tower antenna erection, and hopefully get some of my Drake stuff on the air!? Difficulty deciding on a "multiband beam".? Either the Hy-gain TH-11DX or Optibeam OB9-HD5.? Anyway I'll figure it out eventually I guess.? Now to the point of this post.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Wondering if anyone has an MN-2000?antenna switch?ceramic wafer they want to part with"? Previous owner "hot switched" and fried a few
contacts.? I've removed the wafer over the weekend.? I tried the ebay seller "networkrw" and he was very hopeful he could help, but it didn't pan out as he couldn't find one close enough.
Contacted Ron Wb4hfn but he said he didn't have that part.? Any ideas of where to source something suitable even with a little modification?
I understand that a replacement was available from Russia but I doubt that's not an option at this point.
I'd appreciate any info that may help.? I know about the direction of "drilling out" the rivets and swapping contacts with another wafer and using very small bolts to hold them in but is this the only option available, and I'm not even sure the contact plates would be good enough anyway?
I've looked at the older posts asking the same question but they're limited.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
73
Peter
VE9KX


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

I see now that both sides of the switch are tied together (presumably to enhance the power capability of the switch) which may complicate finding a replacement.? I think someone mentioned using two wafers to mimic that but, again, finding one replacement may be hard enough to do and even harder to find two.? :-(

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ


From: "Peter A" <christinepeterarsenault@...>
To: "DRAKE-RADIO" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 3:20:06 PM
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 04:53 PM, n4buq wrote:
Isn't that just a ceramic Centralab wafer?? Those can often be found as individual wafers on eBay, etc., with the correct shaft hole and contacts/wiper configuration.? The trick is getting the proper stud spacing.? I had to replace a few of those in a VTVM last year and it took a while to find a proper replacements but I finally found them.
?
Good luck with it.
I do believe it is one of their wafers but difficult to find the exact.
I was in touch with an Ebay seller who sells this type of thing and in all his inventory he had no match.
Thanks for the input Barry.
73
Peter
VE9KX

?
?
Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ
?

From: "Peter A" <christinepeterarsenault@...>
To: "DRAKE-RADIO" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 10:16:32 AM
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello to all.? It's been a minute since posting here but I keep up to date on what's up just the same.? Always interesting and informative.? This spring will be Delhi tower antenna erection, and hopefully get some of my Drake stuff on the air!? Difficulty deciding on a "multiband beam".? Either the Hy-gain TH-11DX or Optibeam OB9-HD5.? Anyway I'll figure it out eventually I guess.? Now to the point of this post.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Wondering if anyone has an MN-2000?antenna switch?ceramic wafer they want to part with"? Previous owner "hot switched" and fried a few
contacts.? I've removed the wafer over the weekend.? I tried the ebay seller "networkrw" and he was very hopeful he could help, but it didn't pan out as he couldn't find one close enough.
Contacted Ron Wb4hfn but he said he didn't have that part.? Any ideas of where to source something suitable even with a little modification?
I understand that a replacement was available from Russia but I doubt that's not an option at this point.
I'd appreciate any info that may help.? I know about the direction of "drilling out" the rivets and swapping contacts with another wafer and using very small bolts to hold them in but is this the only option available, and I'm not even sure the contact plates would be good enough anyway?
I've looked at the older posts asking the same question but they're limited.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
73
Peter
VE9KX


Re: What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

 

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023, Rob Sherwood wrote:

The major change was 8-pole TX filters instead of 4 pole. Then the T-4XC came out with "locked transceive" which had never existed previously. (Meaning there was not an RX vs. TX frequency error.) Rob, NC0B
Well that is interesting. That explains why a casual glance at the
photographs on eBay do not show any differences.

I have a T4XB so, by your desription, it is the better bargain.

I also have a C line but that is a waste since I have all the skill and ambition of the Saksatchewan farmers I knew as a schoolboy who parked their Galaxy Vs on 3785kHz and chatted to their friends down the road every night.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken@... ** : - Arthur Black


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 04:53 PM, n4buq wrote:
Isn't that just a ceramic Centralab wafer?? Those can often be found as individual wafers on eBay, etc., with the correct shaft hole and contacts/wiper configuration.? The trick is getting the proper stud spacing.? I had to replace a few of those in a VTVM last year and it took a while to find a proper replacements but I finally found them.
?
Good luck with it.
I do believe it is one of their wafers but difficult to find the exact.
I was in touch with an Ebay seller who sells this type of thing and in all his inventory he had no match.
Thanks for the input Barry.
73
Peter
VE9KX

?
?
Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ
?

From: "Peter A" <christinepeterarsenault@...>
To: "DRAKE-RADIO" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 10:16:32 AM
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello to all.? It's been a minute since posting here but I keep up to date on what's up just the same.? Always interesting and informative.? This spring will be Delhi tower antenna erection, and hopefully get some of my Drake stuff on the air!? Difficulty deciding on a "multiband beam".? Either the Hy-gain TH-11DX or Optibeam OB9-HD5.? Anyway I'll figure it out eventually I guess.? Now to the point of this post.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Wondering if anyone has an MN-2000?antenna switch?ceramic wafer they want to part with"? Previous owner "hot switched" and fried a few
contacts.? I've removed the wafer over the weekend.? I tried the ebay seller "networkrw" and he was very hopeful he could help, but it didn't pan out as he couldn't find one close enough.
Contacted Ron Wb4hfn but he said he didn't have that part.? Any ideas of where to source something suitable even with a little modification?
I understand that a replacement was available from Russia but I doubt that's not an option at this point.
I'd appreciate any info that may help.? I know about the direction of "drilling out" the rivets and swapping contacts with another wafer and using very small bolts to hold them in but is this the only option available, and I'm not even sure the contact plates would be good enough anyway?
I've looked at the older posts asking the same question but they're limited.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
73
Peter
VE9KX


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

Isn't that just a ceramic Centralab wafer?? Those can often be found as individual wafers on eBay, etc., with the correct shaft hole and contacts/wiper configuration.? The trick is getting the proper stud spacing.? I had to replace a few of those in a VTVM last year and it took a while to find a proper replacements but I finally found them.

Good luck with it.

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ


From: "Peter A" <christinepeterarsenault@...>
To: "DRAKE-RADIO" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 10:16:32 AM
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello to all.? It's been a minute since posting here but I keep up to date on what's up just the same.? Always interesting and informative.? This spring will be Delhi tower antenna erection, and hopefully get some of my Drake stuff on the air!? Difficulty deciding on a "multiband beam".? Either the Hy-gain TH-11DX or Optibeam OB9-HD5.? Anyway I'll figure it out eventually I guess.? Now to the point of this post.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Wondering if anyone has an MN-2000?antenna switch?ceramic wafer they want to part with"? Previous owner "hot switched" and fried a few
contacts.? I've removed the wafer over the weekend.? I tried the ebay seller "networkrw" and he was very hopeful he could help, but it didn't pan out as he couldn't find one close enough.
Contacted Ron Wb4hfn but he said he didn't have that part.? Any ideas of where to source something suitable even with a little modification?
I understand that a replacement was available from Russia but I doubt that's not an option at this point.
I'd appreciate any info that may help.? I know about the direction of "drilling out" the rivets and swapping contacts with another wafer and using very small bolts to hold them in but is this the only option available, and I'm not even sure the contact plates would be good enough anyway?
I've looked at the older posts asking the same question but they're limited.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
73
Peter
VE9KX


Re: What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

 

The major change was 8-pole TX filters instead of 4 pole. Then the T-4XC came out with "locked transceive" which had never existed previously. (Meaning there was not an RX vs. TX frequency error.) Rob, NC0B

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Loken
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 12:19 PM
To: drake mail list
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

The subject says it all: what did Drake change when they went from the
T4X and the T4XB? Was there a T4XA?
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken@... ** : - Arthur Black


Re: Puzzling problem with the AGC in my R4-C

 

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Hi Bill,

?

It was possible to get the MC1496 mixer to work as far as conversion gain.? The later chip options were simpler to implement.

?

Assuming the Drake AGC circuit hasn¡¯t been changed, most of the attack distortion has been minimized with the NE602 mixer.? That said, I always wanted a slower AGC decay than Drake offered, so my custom AGC switch implementation had 5 choices (including the almost useless Fast option).?? Unless dealing with QRN, I almost always used the new slowest decay speed on SSB.? To my picky ears the R-4C audio was fine, assuming the terrible stock audio amp had also been replaced. (Note: I have retired and am not trying to sell a Sherwood AMP-4 module!)

?

I suppose there may still be some distortion during AGC attack since by definition the gain of the radio is changing in a few milliseconds.? One could define this as distortion.? In a similar way Dynamic Noise Reduction in modern radios is always a tradeoff between reducing noise and living with DSP artifacts.? With my Icom I never run noise reduction on SSB above 2 out of 10 since the digital artifacts annoy me more than the noise.? That of course is a subjective statement while others run NR as high as 8 out of 10.?

?

I have operated 20 out of the top 25 transceivers on my website table in contests, and only Icom and possibly Kenwood offers a slow enough AGC decay to suite my operating preferences.? Those brands that are still too fast on SLOW are Apache, Elecraft, Flex and Yaesu. This isn¡¯t necessarily an AGC attack distortion issue as simply me not liking band noise to be as loud as the station I am listening to if the person speaking pauses for a fraction of a second.

?

On the other hand with at least the Yaesu FT-710, if the AGC is on AUTO, on CW the AGC attack distortion is absolutely terrible.? Are design engineers deaf?? I just don¡¯t get it, or do OEMs only listen to their radios in the lab with a signal generator and not on the air?? Why didn¡¯t Drake notice that there wasn¡¯t AGC attack distortion in the original R-4 but in later R-4As and the follow-on ?products the audio had seriously degraded??

?

Maybe radio OEMs should have a Hi Fi person with ¡°golden ears¡± on their staff !?? Hi Hi

?

73, Rob, NC0B ?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Leonard N0CU
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 9:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Puzzling problem with the AGC in my R4-C

?

Rob,

Thanks for sharing your insights on this.

What I think you are saying is that AGC attack distortion is a ¡°feature¡± of some of the designs in the receivers by Collins and Drake, and that this distortion increases as the decay time is reduced (which is what I am seeing). Also, the time constants used for the fast decays are off from what you recommend.

I don¡¯t operate CW so the distortion I am seeing with the M and F settings is not an operational issue for me. However, the engineer in me wants to fix the AGC if something is broken and it is not operating as designed. What I have concluded from your comments is that this is not the case.

What I failed to mention is that I have installed your NE602 product detector. I didn¡¯t mention it because I didn¡¯t suspect it could be a contributor to an AGC problem. So, did this detector mod eliminate the AGC attack distortion, or only reduce it.

As an aside, before I built and installed your NE602 product detector I tried a 1496 mixer circuit that I had laying around from a previous project. The conversion gain was so much lower than the original design that it was not a viable option.

--
Bill N0CU


Re: DRAKE MN-2000 Ceramic wafer replacement/repair for Antenna Selector Switch help?

 

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:51 PM, VE7PS wrote:
Peter:
?
First...a small correction...not THE previous owner...but A previous owner.
?
Contact Paul Kramer, K0UYA, for his picture set on how he replaced that switch with a stripped down multiple section heavy duty 5 pos switch bought?on E-bay?cheaply from Eastern Europe.? I just checked?and there is a Bulgarian seller that seems to have several that would work,? You do need to make up a new shaft extender with the correct "flat" offsets - not too difficult.
?
Paul's address is;
He will likely see this e-mail?anyways.
?
73
Peter
VE7PS
For sure Peter!!? Thanks for the correction.? I worded that wrong.
I'll contact Paul and ask for some guidance on that.
I do have alternatives now to this unit but I don't want to part it out because of the antenna switch alone.
Thanks for the tip.
73
Peter
VE9KX
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What are the differances between the T4X and the T4XB

 

The subject says it all: what did Drake change when they went from the
T4X and the T4XB? Was there a T4XA?
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken@... ** : - Arthur Black


Re: RV75 Issues

 

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 10:46 AM, John K5MO wrote:
Do you have the pushbutton in the TUNE position?
Yes, with both Fixed Feq buttopns out.

RB