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Re: Drake Transmitting Convertors

Tony Deprato
 

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You Fogel the new Q&A hams have no ideal what rit title tune load or null are for. You have to be on .000.or your off freq.73.Tony wa4jqs?



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-------- Original message --------
From: "VE7PS via groups.io" <ve7ps@...>
Date: 3/27/21 19:09 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Drake Transmitting Convertors

Bob:

Of course, so do I!? My 1st tx a homebrew 6L6 xtal osc, rock bound on 40m.? I had ONE xtal.? I butchered my Mom's RCA radio/record player (with her permission) to make that tx.? You HAD to tune around or you'd never work anyone!

I get a laugh out of those who complain of someone being "off frequency".? Heck, we have even have had a little knob for correcting just that called RIT for more than 40 years now?

73
Peter
VE7PS

On 2021-03-27 3:59 p.m., kq2q wrote:
Peter
I can remember when I would CQ on 40 meters and tune at least +\- 25 kHz up and down for a response.?
Frequency was not that important as long as inbounds.?
Drift was not too important- just retune the RX. Walk around a bit.?
Nowadays if you are 73 cycles off; oh boy!
?
Bob KQ2Q

On Mar 27, 2021, at 6:34 PM, wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> wrote:

?
? Hi Peter,
Ok, I just have to comment...
I was going to when you said you were?
going to build my cheap FS-4.. ?I might be
able to actually push you over the edge..

The Drake¡¯s were very stable by 1964
standards but today, they are really drift
monsters....

What i am running here is an advanced?
version I call my FS-5 with advanced?
stability.

If you build Bernie and my FS-4B hardware (with
digital dial) you could have a Drake that is
comparable to most new rigs in stability.
Simple theory is, measure the PTO
?frequency and if it drifts, you offset the?
band oscillator (Si5351 crystal based
synthesizer) by the opposite amount to
cancel the PTO drift. ?I am doing this now
and it is terrific, turn the Drake on cold,
tune in the net, then listen all day without?
changing the PTO, it is crystal locked!
I also have a mode I call channel lock...
Most operation nowadays is on even KHz
frequencies, so I only lock to the KHz.
Instant exactly ¡°on frequency¡±, no
?complaints from the new guys?
Real easy tuning, my Kenwood can¡¯t even do
this!

Parts cost can be as low as $11, I think.
Plus, you have all bands with NO old drifted
crystals needed.

My FS-5 design is still being developed but if anyone wants something like the above,
maybe I can get Bernie to help me release?
it.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD?



On Mar 27, 2021, at 2:45 PM, VE7PS <ve7ps@...:

? Rick:

I am not currently on the air with my TC-2/6 but I have in the past used them.

While not too bad for casual VHF operating on CW/SSB, they are not stable enough as is for any of the digital modes.? I was getting drift complaints on occasion from the SSB guys at times.? My answer...."do you have big knob on the front of your radio for tuning?"? OK - not really....but I did think that!? Indeed some of that drift could be from the R-4/T-4 that was running the xverters at the time.? Need to check that out further one day.

The receivers are not all that hot and would benefit from a good low noise preamp ahead of them.? I did some simple comparison testing a few years ago against my SSB Electronics xverters and they were not as sensitive, though I did not go as far as quantifying that difference.?

I like to operate them just for fun, because I can.? I just wish I lived in an area that some VHF DX was possible...this after almost 40 years of VHF/UHF DX'ing when I Iived in EN86 and FN02.? I am almost surrounded by mountains where I am now in DN09, though I do have a good shot at the moon most of the time and am planning to get back into EME again. I won't be using the Drakes!

I also have a P & H 6-150 100 watt 6 meter transmitting converter that is fun to play with too.? Brings back memories from using one of these in our 6m station at VE3ONT during the VHF contests in the mid-70's.

73
Peter
VE7PS






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Re: Large amount of Drake gear in latest Schulman web auction

 

Sometimes you get lucky. :) They can't possibly know everything about every radio. I clued them in last year about the RX antenna loop/jumper in the TR7. They seem to be very honest and straightforward in the testing that they do. Everything I have heard about Schulman is very good.

73

-Jim
NU0C


On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 00:17:34 -0700
"Harold Rosee" <W5zzt1@...> wrote:

I got a nice Drake 2C on the last auction.? I got a good price and when I got it I was surprised that it had the *noise blanker and crystal calibrator that was not even mentioned*.? It did cost a few dollars to get it here but the UPS stor packed it perfect.

I also won a 3CX1000a tube from him and since it was small he sent it himself priority mail.? You can't beat his service.

Harold
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Re: Drake Transmitting Convertors

 

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OK Gary - now you're just embarrassing me!? ;-)

Yes, I WILL build one of these as I need the experience in that area.? The trouble will be getting time to do it.? I've even been giving up a lot of skiing this winter to finish house renovations.? Almost done.....and THIS summer will be dedicated to Ham Radio projects for the 1st time in 3 years.? I need to finish a 2nd shack next where the 5m dish is going, run a lot of u/g coax lines through conduit, build a mount for the dish (10' tower has been there for almost 3 years), and completely re-arrange the main shack which is becoming exclusively the vintage shack.? Things got sidetracked 2-1/2 years ago while pouring the concrete bases for the two towers.? Just as we were finishing up the 2nd pour, the ground caved in next to one of the towers and I fell in, slamming my hand on the form on the way in and breaking my hand.?

Regarding the Drake transverter stability.....some of that drift comes from the oscillator in the rx converters which provide the injection signals at 130 Mhz (for the TC-2) and 36 Mhz (for the TC-6) as I recall.? I should really measure how stable they are after reasonable warm-up.? And yes, I know there are stable options for those too.? I have a Bodnar programmable oscillator that would do the trick.

I am looking forward to seeing what the FS-5 can do and will put one on the list of "to-do's".

73
Peter
VE7PS

On 2021-03-27 3:34 p.m., wb6ogd wrote:

? Hi Peter,
Ok, I just have to comment...
I was going to when you said you were?
going to build my cheap FS-4.. ?I might be
able to actually push you over the edge..

The Drake¡¯s were very stable by 1964
standards but today, they are really drift
monsters....

What i am running here is an advanced?
version I call my FS-5 with advanced?
stability.

If you build Bernie and my FS-4B hardware (with
digital dial) you could have a Drake that is
comparable to most new rigs in stability.
Simple theory is, measure the PTO
?frequency and if it drifts, you offset the?
band oscillator (Si5351 crystal based
synthesizer) by the opposite amount to
cancel the PTO drift. ?I am doing this now
and it is terrific, turn the Drake on cold,
tune in the net, then listen all day without?
changing the PTO, it is crystal locked!
I also have a mode I call channel lock...
Most operation nowadays is on even KHz
frequencies, so I only lock to the KHz.
Instant exactly ¡°on frequency¡±, no
?complaints from the new guys?
Real easy tuning, my Kenwood can¡¯t even do
this!

Parts cost can be as low as $11, I think.
Plus, you have all bands with NO old drifted
crystals needed.

My FS-5 design is still being developed but if anyone wants something like the above,
maybe I can get Bernie to help me release?
it.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD?



On Mar 27, 2021, at 2:45 PM, VE7PS <ve7ps@...:

? Rick:

I am not currently on the air with my TC-2/6 but I have in the past used them.

While not too bad for casual VHF operating on CW/SSB, they are not stable enough as is for any of the digital modes.? I was getting drift complaints on occasion from the SSB guys at times.? My answer...."do you have big knob on the front of your radio for tuning?"? OK - not really....but I did think that!? Indeed some of that drift could be from the R-4/T-4 that was running the xverters at the time.? Need to check that out further one day.

The receivers are not all that hot and would benefit from a good low noise preamp ahead of them.? I did some simple comparison testing a few years ago against my SSB Electronics xverters and they were not as sensitive, though I did not go as far as quantifying that difference.?

I like to operate them just for fun, because I can.? I just wish I lived in an area that some VHF DX was possible...this after almost 40 years of VHF/UHF DX'ing when I Iived in EN86 and FN02.? I am almost surrounded by mountains where I am now in DN09, though I do have a good shot at the moon most of the time and am planning to get back into EME again. I won't be using the Drakes!

I also have a P & H 6-150 100 watt 6 meter transmitting converter that is fun to play with too.? Brings back memories from using one of these in our 6m station at VE3ONT during the VHF contests in the mid-70's.

73
Peter
VE7PS







Re: Drake Transmitting Convertors

 

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Bob:

Of course, so do I!? My 1st tx a homebrew 6L6 xtal osc, rock bound on 40m.? I had ONE xtal.? I butchered my Mom's RCA radio/record player (with her permission) to make that tx.? You HAD to tune around or you'd never work anyone!

I get a laugh out of those who complain of someone being "off frequency".? Heck, we have even have had a little knob for correcting just that called RIT for more than 40 years now?

73
Peter
VE7PS

On 2021-03-27 3:59 p.m., kq2q wrote:

Peter
I can remember when I would CQ on 40 meters and tune at least +\- 25 kHz up and down for a response.?
Frequency was not that important as long as inbounds.?
Drift was not too important- just retune the RX. Walk around a bit.?
Nowadays if you are 73 cycles off; oh boy!
?
Bob KQ2Q

On Mar 27, 2021, at 6:34 PM, wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> wrote:

?
? Hi Peter,
Ok, I just have to comment...
I was going to when you said you were?
going to build my cheap FS-4.. ?I might be
able to actually push you over the edge..

The Drake¡¯s were very stable by 1964
standards but today, they are really drift
monsters....

What i am running here is an advanced?
version I call my FS-5 with advanced?
stability.

If you build Bernie and my FS-4B hardware (with
digital dial) you could have a Drake that is
comparable to most new rigs in stability.
Simple theory is, measure the PTO
?frequency and if it drifts, you offset the?
band oscillator (Si5351 crystal based
synthesizer) by the opposite amount to
cancel the PTO drift. ?I am doing this now
and it is terrific, turn the Drake on cold,
tune in the net, then listen all day without?
changing the PTO, it is crystal locked!
I also have a mode I call channel lock...
Most operation nowadays is on even KHz
frequencies, so I only lock to the KHz.
Instant exactly ¡°on frequency¡±, no
?complaints from the new guys?
Real easy tuning, my Kenwood can¡¯t even do
this!

Parts cost can be as low as $11, I think.
Plus, you have all bands with NO old drifted
crystals needed.

My FS-5 design is still being developed but if anyone wants something like the above,
maybe I can get Bernie to help me release?
it.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD?



On Mar 27, 2021, at 2:45 PM, VE7PS <ve7ps@...:

? Rick:

I am not currently on the air with my TC-2/6 but I have in the past used them.

While not too bad for casual VHF operating on CW/SSB, they are not stable enough as is for any of the digital modes.? I was getting drift complaints on occasion from the SSB guys at times.? My answer...."do you have big knob on the front of your radio for tuning?"? OK - not really....but I did think that!? Indeed some of that drift could be from the R-4/T-4 that was running the xverters at the time.? Need to check that out further one day.

The receivers are not all that hot and would benefit from a good low noise preamp ahead of them.? I did some simple comparison testing a few years ago against my SSB Electronics xverters and they were not as sensitive, though I did not go as far as quantifying that difference.?

I like to operate them just for fun, because I can.? I just wish I lived in an area that some VHF DX was possible...this after almost 40 years of VHF/UHF DX'ing when I Iived in EN86 and FN02.? I am almost surrounded by mountains where I am now in DN09, though I do have a good shot at the moon most of the time and am planning to get back into EME again. I won't be using the Drakes!

I also have a P & H 6-150 100 watt 6 meter transmitting converter that is fun to play with too.? Brings back memories from using one of these in our 6m station at VE3ONT during the VHF contests in the mid-70's.

73
Peter
VE7PS







Re: Drake Transmitting Convertors

Tony Deprato
 

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Better yet call cq and not Be on 3.657.5.and not 3.657.000.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "kq2q via groups.io" <kq2q@...>
Date: 3/27/21 18:59 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Drake Transmitting Convertors

Peter
I can remember when I would CQ on 40 meters and tune at least +\- 25 kHz up and down for a response.?
Frequency was not that important as long as inbounds.?
Drift was not too important- just retune the RX. Walk around a bit.?
Nowadays if you are 73 cycles off; oh boy!
?
Bob KQ2Q

On Mar 27, 2021, at 6:34 PM, wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> wrote:

?
?Hi Peter,
Ok, I just have to comment...
I was going to when you said you were?
going to build my cheap FS-4.. ?I might be
able to actually push you over the edge..

The Drake¡¯s were very stable by 1964
standards but today, they are really drift
monsters....

What i am running here is an advanced?
version I call my FS-5 with advanced?
stability.

If you build Bernie and my FS-4B hardware (with
digital dial) you could have a Drake that is
comparable to most new rigs in stability.
Simple theory is, measure the PTO
?frequency and if it drifts, you offset the?
band oscillator (Si5351 crystal based
synthesizer) by the opposite amount to
cancel the PTO drift. ?I am doing this now
and it is terrific, turn the Drake on cold,
tune in the net, then listen all day without?
changing the PTO, it is crystal locked!
I also have a mode I call channel lock...
Most operation nowadays is on even KHz
frequencies, so I only lock to the KHz.
Instant exactly ¡°on frequency¡±, no
?complaints from the new guys?
Real easy tuning, my Kenwood can¡¯t even do
this!

Parts cost can be as low as $11, I think.
Plus, you have all bands with NO old drifted
crystals needed.

My FS-5 design is still being developed but if anyone wants something like the above,
maybe I can get Bernie to help me release?
it.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD?



On Mar 27, 2021, at 2:45 PM, VE7PS <ve7ps@...:

? Rick:

I am not currently on the air with my TC-2/6 but I have in the past used them.

While not too bad for casual VHF operating on CW/SSB, they are not stable enough as is for any of the digital modes.? I was getting drift complaints on occasion from the SSB guys at times.? My answer...."do you have big knob on the front of your radio for tuning?"? OK - not really....but I did think that!? Indeed some of that drift could be from the R-4/T-4 that was running the xverters at the time.? Need to check that out further one day.

The receivers are not all that hot and would benefit from a good low noise preamp ahead of them.? I did some simple comparison testing a few years ago against my SSB Electronics xverters and they were not as sensitive, though I did not go as far as quantifying that difference.?

I like to operate them just for fun, because I can.? I just wish I lived in an area that some VHF DX was possible...this after almost 40 years of VHF/UHF DX'ing when I Iived in EN86 and FN02.? I am almost surrounded by mountains where I am now in DN09, though I do have a good shot at the moon most of the time and am planning to get back into EME again. I won't be using the Drakes!

I also have a P & H 6-150 100 watt 6 meter transmitting converter that is fun to play with too.? Brings back memories from using one of these in our 6m station at VE3ONT during the VHF contests in the mid-70's.

73
Peter
VE7PS






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Peter
I can remember when I would CQ on 40 meters and tune at least +\- 25 kHz up and down for a response.?
Frequency was not that important as long as inbounds.?
Drift was not too important- just retune the RX. Walk around a bit.?
Nowadays if you are 73 cycles off; oh boy!
?
Bob KQ2Q

On Mar 27, 2021, at 6:34 PM, wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> wrote:

?
?Hi Peter,
Ok, I just have to comment...
I was going to when you said you were?
going to build my cheap FS-4.. ?I might be
able to actually push you over the edge..

The Drake¡¯s were very stable by 1964
standards but today, they are really drift
monsters....

What i am running here is an advanced?
version I call my FS-5 with advanced?
stability.

If you build Bernie and my FS-4B hardware (with
digital dial) you could have a Drake that is
comparable to most new rigs in stability.
Simple theory is, measure the PTO
?frequency and if it drifts, you offset the?
band oscillator (Si5351 crystal based
synthesizer) by the opposite amount to
cancel the PTO drift. ?I am doing this now
and it is terrific, turn the Drake on cold,
tune in the net, then listen all day without?
changing the PTO, it is crystal locked!
I also have a mode I call channel lock...
Most operation nowadays is on even KHz
frequencies, so I only lock to the KHz.
Instant exactly ¡°on frequency¡±, no
?complaints from the new guys?
Real easy tuning, my Kenwood can¡¯t even do
this!

Parts cost can be as low as $11, I think.
Plus, you have all bands with NO old drifted
crystals needed.

My FS-5 design is still being developed but if anyone wants something like the above,
maybe I can get Bernie to help me release?
it.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD?



On Mar 27, 2021, at 2:45 PM, VE7PS <ve7ps@...:

? Rick:

I am not currently on the air with my TC-2/6 but I have in the past used them.

While not too bad for casual VHF operating on CW/SSB, they are not stable enough as is for any of the digital modes.? I was getting drift complaints on occasion from the SSB guys at times.? My answer...."do you have big knob on the front of your radio for tuning?"? OK - not really....but I did think that!? Indeed some of that drift could be from the R-4/T-4 that was running the xverters at the time.? Need to check that out further one day.

The receivers are not all that hot and would benefit from a good low noise preamp ahead of them.? I did some simple comparison testing a few years ago against my SSB Electronics xverters and they were not as sensitive, though I did not go as far as quantifying that difference.?

I like to operate them just for fun, because I can.? I just wish I lived in an area that some VHF DX was possible...this after almost 40 years of VHF/UHF DX'ing when I Iived in EN86 and FN02.? I am almost surrounded by mountains where I am now in DN09, though I do have a good shot at the moon most of the time and am planning to get back into EME again. I won't be using the Drakes!

I also have a P & H 6-150 100 watt 6 meter transmitting converter that is fun to play with too.? Brings back memories from using one of these in our 6m station at VE3ONT during the VHF contests in the mid-70's.

73
Peter
VE7PS






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?Hi Peter,
Ok, I just have to comment...
I was going to when you said you were?
going to build my cheap FS-4.. ?I might be
able to actually push you over the edge..

The Drake¡¯s were very stable by 1964
standards but today, they are really drift
monsters....

What i am running here is an advanced?
version I call my FS-5 with advanced?
stability.

If you build Bernie and my FS-4B hardware (with
digital dial) you could have a Drake that is
comparable to most new rigs in stability.
Simple theory is, measure the PTO
?frequency and if it drifts, you offset the?
band oscillator (Si5351 crystal based
synthesizer) by the opposite amount to
cancel the PTO drift. ?I am doing this now
and it is terrific, turn the Drake on cold,
tune in the net, then listen all day without?
changing the PTO, it is crystal locked!
I also have a mode I call channel lock...
Most operation nowadays is on even KHz
frequencies, so I only lock to the KHz.
Instant exactly ¡°on frequency¡±, no
?complaints from the new guys?
Real easy tuning, my Kenwood can¡¯t even do
this!

Parts cost can be as low as $11, I think.
Plus, you have all bands with NO old drifted
crystals needed.

My FS-5 design is still being developed but if anyone wants something like the above,
maybe I can get Bernie to help me release?
it.
73,
Gary
WB6OGD?



On Mar 27, 2021, at 2:45 PM, VE7PS <ve7ps@...:

? Rick:

I am not currently on the air with my TC-2/6 but I have in the past used them.

While not too bad for casual VHF operating on CW/SSB, they are not stable enough as is for any of the digital modes.? I was getting drift complaints on occasion from the SSB guys at times.? My answer...."do you have big knob on the front of your radio for tuning?"? OK - not really....but I did think that!? Indeed some of that drift could be from the R-4/T-4 that was running the xverters at the time.? Need to check that out further one day.

The receivers are not all that hot and would benefit from a good low noise preamp ahead of them.? I did some simple comparison testing a few years ago against my SSB Electronics xverters and they were not as sensitive, though I did not go as far as quantifying that difference.?

I like to operate them just for fun, because I can.? I just wish I lived in an area that some VHF DX was possible...this after almost 40 years of VHF/UHF DX'ing when I Iived in EN86 and FN02.? I am almost surrounded by mountains where I am now in DN09, though I do have a good shot at the moon most of the time and am planning to get back into EME again. I won't be using the Drakes!

I also have a P & H 6-150 100 watt 6 meter transmitting converter that is fun to play with too.? Brings back memories from using one of these in our 6m station at VE3ONT during the VHF contests in the mid-70's.

73
Peter
VE7PS






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Rick:

I am not currently on the air with my TC-2/6 but I have in the past used them.

While not too bad for casual VHF operating on CW/SSB, they are not stable enough as is for any of the digital modes.? I was getting drift complaints on occasion from the SSB guys at times.? My answer...."do you have big knob on the front of your radio for tuning?"? OK - not really....but I did think that!? Indeed some of that drift could be from the R-4/T-4 that was running the xverters at the time.? Need to check that out further one day.

The receivers are not all that hot and would benefit from a good low noise preamp ahead of them.? I did some simple comparison testing a few years ago against my SSB Electronics xverters and they were not as sensitive, though I did not go as far as quantifying that difference.?

I like to operate them just for fun, because I can.? I just wish I lived in an area that some VHF DX was possible...this after almost 40 years of VHF/UHF DX'ing when I Iived in EN86 and FN02.? I am almost surrounded by mountains where I am now in DN09, though I do have a good shot at the moon most of the time and am planning to get back into EME again. I won't be using the Drakes!

I also have a P & H 6-150 100 watt 6 meter transmitting converter that is fun to play with too.? Brings back memories from using one of these in our 6m station at VE3ONT during the VHF contests in the mid-70's.

73
Peter
VE7PS

On 2021-03-27 2:30 p.m., Rick wrote:

Howdy guys and gals!

Is there anyone out there in radio land using a TC-2 or TC-6 on the air?

I have both? + the CC-1 convertor console and SC-2 // SC-6 receive converters. I am preparing to get it all on the air.??

I would like to compare notes on them and ? I'm planning to set up a TR-4C to use with both.

73/Rick
W7IMM


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Have both.73.Tony wa4jqs?



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Rick via groups.io" <myr748@...>
Date: 3/27/21 17:30 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] Drake Transmitting Convertors

Howdy guys and gals!

Is there anyone out there in radio land using a TC-2 or TC-6 on the air?

I have both? + the CC-1 convertor console and SC-2 // SC-6 receive converters. I am preparing to get it all on the air.??

I would like to compare notes on them and ? I'm planning to set up a TR-4C to use with both.

73/Rick
W7IMM


Drake Transmitting Convertors

Rick
 

Howdy guys and gals!

Is there anyone out there in radio land using a TC-2 or TC-6 on the air?

I have both? + the CC-1 convertor console and SC-2 // SC-6 receive converters. I am preparing to get it all on the air.??

I would like to compare notes on them and ? I'm planning to set up a TR-4C to use with both.

73/Rick
W7IMM


Re: L75 Amp Main Power Switch Availability

 

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 06:33 AM, Jim Shorney wrote:
<I'm not going to waste time debating trivia with you. I just don't want the audience to get the impression that the L-4B is some pathetic POS that doesn't even deserve to be on 11 Meters based <on your rantings. The fact is that a countless number of these amps have been in service for decades and they do the job they were intended to do as-is.

<73

<-Jim
<NU0C

##? I never said the? L4B is a POS. (I own? 4 of them).? But it's not? 1963 anymore either.? ?With a bunch of? simple upgrades, the? L4B can be made much more? reliable.? ?My? yaesu's put out? 50%? power after just? 10 msecs.? ?That tells me the slow? 15 msec? oem? drake? 3PDT? TR relay hot switches? every time you trip the vox.? ?Running the tubes with zero bias,? insufficient cooling,? goofy cut off bias scheme, un-needed? bleeders? in the? HV? supply, substandard and dangerous? HV connector, deficient TR relay setup, poor excuse for a hv? fuse,? no? fault current limiting, no meter protection, insufficient? HV? filtering (ripple is way too high),? wrong value? bypass caps....... it's all easily? fixed and upgraded.?

?

On? CW,? I can? insert a 0-30 msec delay, so the L4B? relay's at least get a head start, so no hotswitching, and nothing gets? truncated.? ?On? SSB,? I added an external hb delay to the yaesu's TX? inhibit lead, so? ?again,? the? L4B? TR relay? gets a head start.

Ever seen a L4B? that has been run on 11 M? AM ?? Nothing left of the bandswitch contacts, they get so hot they lose their spring tension ( just like any ameritron? al-1500/al-1200/al-82? that has been used on any band, on? RTTY).? ?Ever measured the heat on the oem? ?L4B? tank coil on? 15m and also 10m ?? ?It gets fn hot.? No, the L4B? does not fare too well after a? 11m op gets his hands on it..and? runs it? with a 900 watt un-modulated? cxr.?

Art? Bell,? W6OBB? was telling me one night, he had to make a trip to Las Vegas,? 75 miles? away.? ?When he got back, his? ALPHA? 87? was on fire, smoke everywhere,? tank assy? completely melted, a real mess.? ?Art had been using the amp on 10m? FM.? ?His cat came along? and? fell asleep on the? footswitch.? Amp had been running 1.5 kw? FM on 10m? for almost? 4? 1/2? hrs.? ?Art had also installed the optional? rear fan assy for? extra? cooling, per? alpha manual.? ?Art phones? alpha, and? asks about the...'no time limit'? and the tech told him.....? 'don't believe the advertising? hype'.??

It's? 58 years? since the L4 came out, and? 60 years since it was engineered.? They did a pretty good job, all things considered.? ?It's an easy upgradeable amp, with simple mods.

Jim? ?VE7RF


Re: Need Crystal freq. for 28.5 mhz in TR4C

 

AF4K crystals is back in business by, although still not up to 100% operational. Email Steve with request.
Steve Johnston, WD8DAS?

73's,
Mark, WB0IQK


Re: Need Crystal freq. for 28.5 mhz in TR4C

 

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Hi Greg if you look on web for a firm call QuartsLab, the guy name is

David he can make any crystal for an frequency you need.

David is based in WALES UK and he has been make crystal's for ovrt

30 years

Best regards

A Martins M0PAM




------ Original Message ------
From: "Greg Anders" <kb7tt@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 26 Mar, 21 At 20:18
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] Need Crystal freq. for 28.5 mhz in TR4C

I need to go find a crystal to put my TR4C on 28.5-29.0 Mhz. Since I don't have one installed does anyone know the crystal freq. required.

Thank you


Re: B-line out of storage after 30 years

Harold Rosee
 

Gregg,

I really haven't had time to play with the transmitter yet or the power supply.? I did buy the Harbach kit for the power supply but haven't installed it yet.? I plan on firing up the power supply standalone first to see what it does before I put the kit in.

As far as the receiver goes I just plugged it it and turned it on.? I was ready for fireworks and smoke but to my surprise it played like it was new.?

What's really nice is the guy I bought this from was a school teacher at a high school.? He used it some as their club station.? For some reason he ordered 9 sets of matched finals and included them.? They are still wrapped as they came from Drake and in the shipping box they came in.? Then there were another 3 sets in regular tube boxes.? Those may be used but I'll take them.? I am set for life with finals.

Harold
W5ZZT


Re: Large amount of Drake gear in latest Schulman web auction

Harold Rosee
 

I got a nice Drake 2C on the last auction.? I got a good price and when I got it I was surprised that it had the noise blanker and crystal calibrator that was not even mentioned.? It did cost a few dollars to get it here but the UPS stor packed it perfect.??

I also won a 3CX1000a tube from him and since it was small he sent it himself priority mail.? You can't beat his service.

Harold
W5ZZT


Re: Need Crystal freq. for 28.5 mhz in TR4C

 

Just picked up a TR-4C that needs some re-calibration work, but it is operational.? Made a few contacts on 40 meters with it tonight.

I wouldn't mind finding a set of 42.5 Mhz xtal for 28.0 - 28.6 and the 43.6 Mhz xtal for 29.1-29.7 Mhz.? May as well get the optional crystals.

It did come with the Noise Filter.

Cowan
N5QDH


Magnum Six

 

Seen on eBay, a rare bird. Magnum Six RF speech processor, looks to be for the TR-4 series. Seller has no clue.



73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: Large amount of Drake gear in latest Schulman web auction

 

What you are missing is visibility. Schulman has at least a nationwide audience and his listings are detailed. Plus they do basic operational checks on all the gear and will answer questions, so you don't have the most of the issues that you do with unknown eBay sellers.



73

-Jim
NU0C

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:44:55 -0600
"Myron Babcock" <kl7yy.radio@...> wrote:

So I guess you still have to pack and ship the radio's to Dave so he can
auction them off and pack and ship them to the new owner. No matter what
you choose to use to sell you still have to pack and ship. Am I missing
something by using Dave's Auction Service? I have never tried to buy or
sell on Dave's website. Will be sure to list that as an option for
whatever is left of my ham gear when I go to the Big Ham Shack in the Sky.

Myron
KL7YY

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 4:11 PM Tony Deprato <tony.deprato@...>
wrote:

Myron:

Most of us old guys figure it is the fastest to sale and less lugging BA¡¯s
to the fedx store hi hi..

Dave¡¯s site brings some top dollar these days and the nice thing he checks
everything out and lists what is does and does not do. So you are not
buying a hit or miss ebay items.

73 Tony WA4JQS



Anthony W.DePrato Unit S8

Administrative Division

Somerset Police Department

306 E. Mt. Vernon ST.

Somerset, KY 42501

606-678-5176

tony.deprato@... <john.alexander@...>

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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> * On Behalf Of *Myron
Babcock via groups.io
*Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2021 3:18 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Large amount of Drake gear in latest
Schulman web auction



This must be a last resort way of unloading years of boat anchor radio
equipment. Wouldn't think you would get as many dollars from the auction
process as you would through individual local or ham website sources. What
kind of fees are charging using the Schulman Auction?



Myron

KL7YY



On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:47 PM AC9PA via groups.io
<>
<byroncordes@...> wrote:

Yep us old farts ! I two years ago had over 30 working radios and 20 parts
radios ! I¡¯m down to 3 radios ! Had to help a sk wife cleanup ! He had 200
items or more ! Don¡¯t want my kids to go through that . It woke me up! I
still have a room 18x18 full but most of it will be easy to get someone to
take it . We actually have a few younger hams in our club now so I¡¯d hope
they would take it.

Yes our days are numbered just when we get old we realize they¡¯re getting
a few!

73s Byron AC9PA


On Mar 26, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Tony Deprato <tony.deprato@...>
wrote:

?

Well guess us old farts. lol.got my ticket in 62 at age 15 now pushing
75.collected and restoration for the past 55 yrs.now getting time to let
more go.

But just my guess.73.Tony wa4jqs





Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: "Myron Babcock via groups.io
<>"
<kl7yy.radio@...>
Date: 3/26/21 14:32 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Large amount of Drake gear in latest Schulman
web auction

Where does all this classic radio equipment come from?



Myron

KL7YY



On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:54 AM wa2cky <bob.groh@...> wrote:

John, on the shipping question, Dave covers that somewhat in the preamble
to the auction, in the first couple of pages. He has arrangements with a
local shipping place (UPS??) and uses them. I would drop him a line to find
out all the particulars. I am local so I just drive over! Not that I buy
much since I am already well stocked with the projects! But, bottom line,
check on the auction site and then contact Mr. Schulman with any further
questions.

73
Bob Groh, WA2CKY







Re: Large amount of Drake gear in latest Schulman web auction

 

You might be surprised. At least in my area hams won't pay very much for used gear. Schulman's auctions bring respectable prices.

73

-Jim
NU0C


On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:17:55 -0600
"Myron Babcock" <kl7yy.radio@...> wrote:

This must be a last resort way of unloading years of boat anchor radio
equipment. Wouldn't think you would get as many dollars from the auction
process as you would through individual local or ham website sources. What
kind of fees are charging using the Schulman Auction?

Myron
KL7YY

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:47 PM AC9PA via groups.io <byroncordes=
[email protected]> wrote:

Yep us old farts ! I two years ago had over 30 working radios and 20 parts
radios ! I¡¯m down to 3 radios ! Had to help a sk wife cleanup ! He had 200
items or more ! Don¡¯t want my kids to go through that . It woke me up! I
still have a room 18x18 full but most of it will be easy to get someone to
take it . We actually have a few younger hams in our club now so I¡¯d hope
they would take it.
Yes our days are numbered just when we get old we realize they¡¯re getting
a few!
73s Byron AC9PA

On Mar 26, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Tony Deprato <tony.deprato@...>
wrote:

?
Well guess us old farts. lol.got my ticket in 62 at age 15 now pushing
75.collected and restoration for the past 55 yrs.now getting time to let
more go.
But just my guess.73.Tony wa4jqs


Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Myron Babcock via groups.io" <kl7yy.radio@...>
Date: 3/26/21 14:32 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Large amount of Drake gear in latest Schulman
web auction

Where does all this classic radio equipment come from?

Myron
KL7YY

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:54 AM wa2cky <bob.groh@...> wrote:

John, on the shipping question, Dave covers that somewhat in the preamble
to the auction, in the first couple of pages. He has arrangements with a
local shipping place (UPS??) and uses them. I would drop him a line to find
out all the particulars. I am local so I just drive over! Not that I buy
much since I am already well stocked with the projects! But, bottom line,
check on the auction site and then contact Mr. Schulman with any further
questions.

73
Bob Groh, WA2CKY





Re: WA8AJS, Jeff's Mod for TR7 to Lower Power Output

 

It seems technically sound but IMO it is a solution in search of a problem. For decades hams have just reduced output by turning the mic gain down and it works fine. A separate power level control can encourage overdriving of the low level stages if you are not careful with your settings. I considered it and chose to not.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:31:10 -0700
"ko4bg" <ko4bg1@...> wrote:

Has Anyone ever tried this Mod and How well does it work?
Woody