Re: PLJ-8LED debacle and Amazon
Thanks Jim. It is now working for me. Bill N0CU
Aliexpress.us came right up for me just now.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:37:44 -0600
"Bill Leonard N0CU via " <billincolo73=[email protected]> wrote:
> The AliExpress website has
> been taken down
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Re: PLJ-8LED debacle and Amazon
Thanks a lot, Jim. Now I'm wanting to buy something I didn't even think about buying 30 minutes ago!
Barry - N4BUQ
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Aliexpress.us came right up for me just now.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:37:44 -0600
"Bill Leonard N0CU via groups.io" <billincolo73@...> wrote:
The AliExpress website has
been taken down
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Re: PLJ-8LED debacle and Amazon
Aliexpress.us came right up for me just now. On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:37:44 -0600 "Bill Leonard N0CU via groups.io" <billincolo73@...> wrote: The AliExpress website has
been taken down -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Re: PLJ-8LED debacle and Amazon
I eventually went to eBay hoping to find one. The AliExpress website has been taken down and every other seller was in China. None made any commitment to ship date or delivery date. Things have really changed in just a few weeks.
Bill N0CU
Agreed.? That turned me off to Amazon as well. Barry - N4BUQ
I distanced myself from Amazon a few years ago when they switched to a format where you couldn't identify the vendor before or after the sale.? Even before that you couldn't tell if something came from an Amazon "warehouse" or a vendor; the number remaining in "stock" was never accurate with the online readout.
Too, when doing a search, I've found prices can be significantly lower on eBay or some of the ham sites that allow free ads.
Happy Easter Sunday to all.
On Saturday, April 19, 2025 at 08:59:06 PM EDT, Jim Shorney via <jimnu0c= [email protected]> wrote:
FWIW the only thing I have ever bought through Amazon was the obscure SCR for the PS7 crowbar, and that was from American Microsemi which I knew to be a good vendor. Otherwise life is just fine without Amazon. On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:51:28 -0600 "Bill Leonard N0CU via " <billincolo73= [email protected]> wrote: > Mike, > The fine print did make it clear that I would be put on Autopay. I have > recently read about how hard it can be to cancel Autopay at Amazon. I > really don't want to find out. > Bill? N0CU -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Re: PLJ-8LED debacle and Amazon
Agreed.? That turned me off to Amazon as well. Barry - N4BUQ
I distanced myself from Amazon a few years ago when they switched to a format where you couldn't identify the vendor before or after the sale. ?Even before that you couldn't tell if something came from an Amazon "warehouse" or a vendor; the number remaining in "stock" was never accurate with the online readout.
Too, when doing a search, I've found prices can be significantly lower on eBay or some of the ham sites that allow free ads.
Happy Easter Sunday to all.
FWIW the only thing I have ever bought through Amazon was the obscure SCR for the PS7 crowbar, and that was from American Microsemi which I knew to be a good vendor. Otherwise life is just fine without Amazon.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:51:28 -0600
"Bill Leonard N0CU via groups.io" <billincolo73@...> wrote:
> Mike,
> The fine print did make it clear that I would be put on Autopay. I have
> recently read about how hard it can be to cancel Autopay at Amazon. I
> really don't want to find out.
> Bill? N0CU
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Re: PLJ-8LED debacle and Amazon
I distanced myself from Amazon a few years ago when they switched to a format where you couldn't identify the vendor before or after the sale. ?Even before that you couldn't tell if something came from an Amazon "warehouse" or a vendor; the number remaining in "stock" was never accurate with the online readout.
Too, when doing a search, I've found prices can be significantly lower on eBay or some of the ham sites that allow free ads.
Happy Easter Sunday to all.
FWIW the only thing I have ever bought through Amazon was the obscure SCR for the PS7 crowbar, and that was from American Microsemi which I knew to be a good vendor. Otherwise life is just fine without Amazon.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:51:28 -0600
"Bill Leonard N0CU via groups.io" <billincolo73@...> wrote:
> Mike,
> The fine print did make it clear that I would be put on Autopay. I have
> recently read about how hard it can be to cancel Autopay at Amazon. I
> really don't want to find out.
> Bill? N0CU
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FWIW the only thing I have ever bought through Amazon was the obscure SCR for the PS7 crowbar, and that was from American Microsemi which I knew to be a good vendor. Otherwise life is just fine without Amazon. On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:51:28 -0600 "Bill Leonard N0CU via groups.io" <billincolo73@...> wrote: Mike,
The fine print did make it clear that I would be put on Autopay. I have
recently read about how hard it can be to cancel Autopay at Amazon. I
really don't want to find out.
Bill N0CU -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Re: File /TR4310/Drake TR4310 Band Codes And AUX-7 G4FPH Group.xlsx uploaded
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Hi? ?i have problems with Drake-RADIO@groups emails,?
Can? you cancel? all information what i? get .?
I am sorry abt that? info have been ok but its make big trouble
For my other trafic
73 de Tapio? OH1KBX
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Mike, The fine print did make it clear that I would be put on Autopay. I have recently read about how hard it can be to cancel Autopay at Amazon. I really don't want to find out. Bill? N0CU
Bill, ? Sorry to hear about your escapades with the PLJ-8LED.? I imagine the QC on those units is a hit or miss.? I hit 1000 when I ordered my 2 a year ago, no issues. But that was a year ago. ? Sounds like Amazon is getting desperate for revenue; hiding prime subscription in the fine print before you order.? And of course, if you do not make the effort to cancel prior to, once the 3 months expires they auto sign you for another year or so.? I wonder if that is also hidden in the fine print. ? 73, ? Mike W5CUL ? ? I decided to purchase a PLJ-8LED freq counter last month to see if I could get it to work with my R4-C Even though it was $10 higher in cost, I went with Amazon because of their simple return policy and the unit being a Chinese product. The first unit was DOA The second one worked, but only with my sig gen set to max output. It turns out that some of these units come with an incorrectly color-coded connector for the signal input - the red wire goes to gnd and the black wire is the signal input. After resolving this problem, the unit worked good with my R4., except for 10M. There is a spur 5.645 MHz above the injection signal. If this spur is within 10 dB of the injection signal, the freq display is unstable. This was not an issue on 80-15 M, but on 10 M the spur was only 8 dB down. By realigning the 10 M band I was able to get the spur 15 dB down and subsequently got stable readings. Yesterday the unit died. It displayed all zeros on both high and low channels regardless of freq or pwr level. Went to the Amazon site to try and return it, but discovered that it was 10 days past the 30 day return period. Decided to order another unit from Amazon. When I got to check out, I noticed that there were several unusual entries - no option for shipping method, no charge for shipping when there should have been, and a credit of $1.90 applied for a ¡°promotion¡±. After searching through all of the fine print I discovered that by placing the order I was agreeing to their promotion, which was to be signed up for Prime for 3 months. Amazon slipped this in even though I had previously checked the box saying I didn¡¯t want Prime. I was unable to find a way to order the part without agreeing to the promotion. ? Bill N0CU
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Bill, ? Sorry to hear about your escapades with the PLJ-8LED.? I imagine the QC on those units is a hit or miss.? I hit 1000 when I ordered my 2 a year ago, no issues. But that was a year ago. ? Sounds like Amazon is getting desperate for revenue; hiding prime subscription in the fine print before you order.? And of course, if you do not make the effort to cancel prior to, once the 3 months expires they auto sign you for another year or so.? I wonder if that is also hidden in the fine print. ? 73, ? Mike W5CUL ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Leonard N0CU via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2025 4:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] PLJ-8LED debacle? I decided to purchase a PLJ-8LED freq counter last month to see if I could get it to work with my R4-C Even though it was $10 higher in cost, I went with Amazon because of their simple return policy and the unit being a Chinese product. The first unit was DOA The second one worked, but only with my sig gen set to max output. It turns out that some of these units come with an incorrectly color-coded connector for the signal input - the red wire goes to gnd and the black wire is the signal input. After resolving this problem, the unit worked good with my R4., except for 10M. There is a spur 5.645 MHz above the injection signal. If this spur is within 10 dB of the injection signal, the freq display is unstable. This was not an issue on 80-15 M, but on 10 M the spur was only 8 dB down. By realigning the 10 M band I was able to get the spur 15 dB down and subsequently got stable readings. Yesterday the unit died. It displayed all zeros on both high and low channels regardless of freq or pwr level. Went to the Amazon site to try and return it, but discovered that it was 10 days past the 30 day return period. Decided to order another unit from Amazon. When I got to check out, I noticed that there were several unusual entries - no option for shipping method, no charge for shipping when there should have been, and a credit of $1.90 applied for a ¡°promotion¡±. After searching through all of the fine print I discovered that by placing the order I was agreeing to their promotion, which was to be signed up for Prime for 3 months. Amazon slipped this in even though I had previously checked the box saying I didn¡¯t want Prime. I was unable to find a way to order the part without agreeing to the promotion. ? Bill N0CU
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I decided to purchase a PLJ-8LED freq counter last month to see if I could get it to work with my R4-C
Even though it was $10 higher in cost, I went with Amazon because of their simple return policy and the unit being a Chinese product.
The first unit was DOA.
The second one worked, but only with my sig gen set to max output. It turns out that some of these units come with an incorrectly color-coded connector for the signal input - the red wire goes to gnd and the black wire is the signal input. After resolving this problem, the unit worked good with my R4., except for 10M. There is a spur 5.645 MHz above the injection signal. If this spur is within 10 dB of the injection signal, the freq display is unstable. This was not an issue on 80-15 M, but on 10 M the spur was only 8 dB down. By realigning the 10 M band I was able to get the spur 15 dB down and subsequently got stable readings.
Yesterday the unit died. It displayed all zeros on both high and low channels regardless of freq or pwr level. Went to the Amazon site to try and return it, but discovered that it was 10 days past the 30 day return period. Decided to order another unit from Amazon. When I got to check out, I noticed that there were several unusual entries - no option for shipping method, no charge for shipping when there should have been, and a credit of $1.90 applied for a ¡°promotion¡±. After searching through all of the fine print I discovered that by placing the order I was agreeing to their promotion, which was to be signed up for Prime for 3 months. Amazon slipped this in even though I had previously checked the box saying I didn¡¯t want Prime. I was unable to find a way to order the part without agreeing to the promotion.
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Bill N0CU
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Good morning ! I¡¯m looking for the case for a Drake 1-A. Can be rough as long as there are no dents or extra holes
Email me W5sum at yahoo.com!
Thanks
Ronnie W5sum
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Re: Only showing 9MHZ on DD-103
Hey Gary and everyone, when I come home from work this afternoon I will try to set up the Drake and take those measurements. It would be nice to get it working.
Mark
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Re: Only showing 9MHZ on DD-103
First check to see that you have the 10 volts DC to the PTO. Then measure the resistance from the PTO Output to ground. It should be above 270 ohms.
Then use your scope or spectrum analyzer to observe the PTO Output at the PTO and then at ?V1 pin 2. You should clearly see the PTO signal there.
Report back.
Gary
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On Apr 18, 2025, at 8:18?AM, Mark N2DMI via groups.io <markkiziuk1@...> wrote:
? Hi Ken, when I come home from work I can look more at the rig and hopefully answer those questions. And yes I have the manual, procedure and service manual.
Mark
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Re: Only showing 9MHZ on DD-103
The IF frequency is 9 MHz but you should not be seeing it at R48. It seams to me that any 9 Mhz leakage should not be strong enough to be picked up by the counter over the PTO signal. On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 18:23:22 -0700 "Mark N2DMI via groups.io" <markkiziuk1@...> wrote: The 9Mhz showing up on my DD-103 must mean something??
9Mhz is in the rig somewhere, right?
Mark -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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It's a high impedance circuit so drop across 100 Ohms would be minimal. What I would suggest is that you check R48 for visible damage, bad solder connections, and measure it for value with your Ohmmeter. On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 18:19:18 -0700 "Mark N2DMI via groups.io" <markkiziuk1@...> wrote: Then re-connect the PTO signal wire back to R48 and use the O-scope to measure the voltage to where the PTO signal wire gets connected to R48 and check to see how
much of a voltage drop I get?
Well I believe I would get some kind of a voltage drop.
I think since I have also a TR-4CW is to do the same two measurements to my other rig so that I know what the voltage measurements on an O-scope should be otherwise I would not know if the 2 measurements on my TR-4CW/RIT are correct. -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Re: Only showing 9MHZ on DD-103
The 9Mhz showing up on my DD-103 must mean something??
9Mhz is in the rig somewhere, right?
Mark
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Re: Only showing 9MHZ on DD-103
I think its R148 and not R48 Ken.
Mark
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Re: Only showing 9MHZ on DD-103
Ken, I do have an O-scope. So your saying to remove the PTO signal wire from R48 and then measure the PTO output signal voltage.
Then re-connect the PTO signal wire back to R48 and use the O-scope to measure the voltage to where the PTO signal wire gets connected to R48 and check to see how
much of a voltage drop I get?
Well I believe I would get some kind of a voltage drop.
I think since I have also a TR-4CW is to do the same two measurements to my other rig so that I know what the voltage measurements on an O-scope should be otherwise I would not know if the 2 measurements on my TR-4CW/RIT are correct.
Mark
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Re: Only showing 9MHZ on DD-103
Looks like R48 on the marginal scans of schematics that I have. 100 Ohms feeding the grid. C12 would be included in "checks around V1". On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 21:06:38 -0400 (EDT) "n4buq via groups.io" <n4buq@...> wrote: Did you possibly mean R148?
Also, the signal would go from that resistor through C12 to the grid.
73,
Barry - N4BUQ
Here is your circuit. The PTO feeds the grid of V1B via R48. I think I would
look at R48 first, then make some checks around V1.
Disclaimer: I have not been inside any TR4 in decades.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 16:25:17 -0700
"Mark N2DMI via groups.io" <markkiziuk1@...> wrote:
I connected the wires back up to the PTO and again no signals!
I then put the spectrum analyzer close to the PTO signal output to see if the
signal was being loaded down and I still have signal output that tracks the
PTO.
Out of curiosity I connected my working DD-103 to the jones connector and it
reads 9Mhz.
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Mark N2DMI