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Re: Old Drakes ALC

 

With the? ALC jack shorted out, the mic gain became the RF clipping level control.? IF? you wanted some more talk power for some pile up, it worked good.?


Re: Old Drakes ALC

 

It was done all the time back then. Just a spst toggle to short out the? ALC jack.? ?Then it looked like a solid green bar on the scope, instead of the typ 'xmas tree' pattern.?

Funny thing was, nobody bitched abt imd / splatter...go figure.?

Some folks in W6 land told me they pulled out one of the tubes, then cut off one of the pins, to do the same thing.?

Essentially, you turned it into an rf clipper, albeit, with no filter to clean up out of band imd products. A real RF clipper would have the 2nd filter. ( like the magnum 6 /? DX engineering RF clippers).?

The Vomax was just a split band audio clipper, with a filter for each of the 3 x bands.? Then the filtered ( and clipped) 3 x bands were? re-combined.??


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

Mine are silver plated copper.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 11:10:07 PM EDT, Jim Shorney <jimnu0c@...> wrote:



I think they are actually plated copper.


On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:02:39 -0700
"K6OXN Bob via groups.io" <bobk6oxn@...> wrote:

> I don't have a nanoVna but the coil is the original .5 inch twisted aluminum original in the L7

--

73

-Jim
NU0C






Re: Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

 

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Hello Lyndon.

WB4HFN page can be of help. Also GW4ALG used to have a page on homebrew versions of the modules you have. Those old pages can be seen here:


This page shows you how to make each of the other band modules:


This page shows you the WARC band modules:


?The WB4HFN page at:

has a homebrew Aux7.

Jim Shorney's article:
/g/DRAKE-RADIO/files/TR-7%20Better%20Allband%20Transmit%20Mod.pdf
or

talks about how to "general coverage" the TR7 for both transmit and receive without the Aux7 and associated modules.

If you do want to make modules for the Aux7 then as someone else suggested, buy a supply of 1N4148 diodes.? The 14 pin DIP headers will be harder to find and expensive.

Another WB4HFN page that shows the truth table for those modules and where the cathodes of the 1N4148's need to go to make up your RTM7 band modules:


Good luck.

Jim Pruitt
WA7DUY




On 4/24/2024 5:15 PM, Lyndon VE7TFX via groups.io wrote:

>From poking around the band modules on the AUX-7 I acquired,
they just seem to be diodes connecting pin 1 to everything else,
right?  Is there any reason I can't just roll my own with 1N4001s
or something similar?

The two modules on the board I have appear to be TI parts,
labelled BC1206.  I have searched high and low but I can't
find a data sheet, or any reference at all, to a TI part
bearing that number.  Anybody have an idea what those might
be?

Cheers,

--lyndon

P.S.  I have two band modules covering 0-1MHz I would be willing
to swap for some WARC coverage :-)







TR-7 RIT issue

 

When I engage the RIT on my TR-7 it adds 5kc to the receive frequency & adjusting the RIT pot has no impact. Wondering if anyone else has run into this or has a suggestion on what to look for?

thanks!
Shawn
kj7mx


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

I think they are actually plated copper.


On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:02:39 -0700
"K6OXN Bob via groups.io" <bobk6oxn@...> wrote:

I don't have a nanoVna but the coil is the original .5 inch twisted aluminum original in the L7
--

73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

I don't have a nanoVna but the coil is the original .5 inch twisted aluminum original in the L7


Re: Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

 

Same here when I had an R7 with an AUX-7 board.

Here's a not so great pic of one I made 40 years ago but it doesn't look
quite right based on the info in the Module programming chart on page 4
of the manual.? Not my greatest work, but it gives you an idea of how to
make them.

73

Stan
KM4HQE

On 4/24/24 20:17, Jim Shorney wrote:
Yup, DIP headers and 4148s are the way to go. This hack is years old. I did it in the late 80s and it had been around a while by then. :)

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 00:33:43 +0000
"Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io" <w1es@...> wrote:

I¡¯ve used 1N4148¡¯s on DIP headers. 1N914¡¯s work just as well. Somewhere on Ron¡¯s page are the diagrams for setting the bands.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent from [Proton Mail]() for iOS

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 20:15, Lyndon VE7TFX <[lyndon@...](mailto:On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 20:15, Lyndon VE7TFX <<a href=)> wrote:

From poking around the band modules on the AUX-7 I acquired,
they just seem to be diodes connecting pin 1 to everything else,
right? Is there any reason I can't just roll my own with 1N4001s
or something similar?

The two modules on the board I have appear to be TI parts,
labelled BC1206. I have searched high and low but I can't
find a data sheet, or any reference at all, to a TI part
bearing that number. Anybody have an idea what those might
be?

Cheers,

--lyndon

P.S. I have two band modules covering 0-1MHz I would be willing
to swap for some WARC coverage :-)



Re: Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

 

On 2024-04-24 18:17, Jim Shorney wrote:
Yup, DIP headers and 4148s are the way to go. This hack is years old.
I did it in the late 80s and it had been around a while by then. :)
*** I did it too. I got the appropriate Molex connectors in Ebay, and wired
up essentially a complete Aux7 on a piece of perfboard. Well, except for the
crystal oscillators.

- Jerry, KF6VB


Re: Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

Lyndon VE7TFX
 

Yup, DIP headers and 4148s are the way to go. This hack is years
old. I did it in the late 80s and it had been around a while by
then. :)
So I just went diode shopping at Newark. They were giving
away 4148s! I just bought a lifetime supply (1000) for
twelve bucks. I just wish they sold caps that cheap ...

--lyndon


Re: Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

 

Yup, DIP headers and 4148s are the way to go. This hack is years old. I did it in the late 80s and it had been around a while by then. :)

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 00:33:43 +0000
"Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io" <w1es@...> wrote:

I¡¯ve used 1N4148¡¯s on DIP headers. 1N914¡¯s work just as well. Somewhere on Ron¡¯s page are the diagrams for setting the bands.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent from [Proton Mail]() for iOS

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 20:15, Lyndon VE7TFX <[lyndon@...](mailto:On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 20:15, Lyndon VE7TFX <<a href=)> wrote:

From poking around the band modules on the AUX-7 I acquired,
they just seem to be diodes connecting pin 1 to everything else,
right? Is there any reason I can't just roll my own with 1N4001s
or something similar?

The two modules on the board I have appear to be TI parts,
labelled BC1206. I have searched high and low but I can't
find a data sheet, or any reference at all, to a TI part
bearing that number. Anybody have an idea what those might
be?

Cheers,

--lyndon

P.S. I have two band modules covering 0-1MHz I would be willing
to swap for some WARC coverage :-)


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

It could. Really the coil should be shorting out the resistors at HF frequencies so very little RF will pass through them. You don't have that Nichrome snake oil that was going around a few years ago, do you?

I would check your resistors with a NanoVNA to make sure they are non-inductive. Not all are really.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 17:31:08 -0700
"K6OXN Bob via groups.io" <bobk6oxn@...> wrote:

Quick and maybe easy question, Could a cold or poor solder joint on the Parasitic Resistors where they attach to the so called coil of the Plate connector cause my problems with the hot resistors?

73? Bob


Re: Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

Lyndon VE7TFX
 

I've used 1N4148s on DIP headers. 1N914s work just as well.
My brain meant to type 4148, but my fingers had other ideas ;-)
My plan of attack is also to use headers.

Somewhere on Ron's page are the diagrams for setting the bands.
I have the AUX-7 documentation so I'm good to go.

Thanks for the confirmation.

--lyndon


Re: Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

 

I¡¯ve used 1N4148¡¯s on DIP headers. 1N914¡¯s work just as well. Somewhere on Ron¡¯s page are the diagrams for setting the bands.?

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


Sent from for iOS


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 20:15, Lyndon VE7TFX <lyndon@...> wrote:
From poking around the band modules on the AUX-7 I acquired,
they just seem to be diodes connecting pin 1 to everything else,
right? Is there any reason I can't just roll my own with 1N4001s
or something similar?

The two modules on the board I have appear to be TI parts,
labelled BC1206. I have searched high and low but I can't
find a data sheet, or any reference at all, to a TI part
bearing that number. Anybody have an idea what those might
be?

Cheers,

--lyndon

P.S. I have two band modules covering 0-1MHz I would be willing
to swap for some WARC coverage :-)






Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

Quick and maybe easy question, Could a cold or poor solder joint on the Parasitic Resistors where they attach to the so called coil of the Plate connector cause my problems with the hot resistors?

73? Bob


Some AUX-7/RTM7 Questions

Lyndon VE7TFX
 

From poking around the band modules on the AUX-7 I acquired,
they just seem to be diodes connecting pin 1 to everything else,
right? Is there any reason I can't just roll my own with 1N4001s
or something similar?

The two modules on the board I have appear to be TI parts,
labelled BC1206. I have searched high and low but I can't
find a data sheet, or any reference at all, to a TI part
bearing that number. Anybody have an idea what those might
be?

Cheers,

--lyndon

P.S. I have two band modules covering 0-1MHz I would be willing
to swap for some WARC coverage :-)


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

The resistors I replaced were 2 watt 47 ohm carbon composition resistors just like the one's that exploded. I am still perplexed as to why these would run so hot as to burn up. All items in that circuit checkout perfect. I realize that 1000pf instead of 1520pf ceramic capacitors shouldn't make that much difference.? The Door knob are rated at 7.5kv so should be good. I did find a poor solder joint on one of the parasitic resistors but it had good mechanical connection.? Have repaired that.? I will look into some of the other type of resistors.? Thanks

73? Bob


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

Probably not a huge issue. The L4B uses a pair of .001 uF (1000 pf) in parallel for .002 uF. So the value can vary a bit. The pair of 760 pF would be 1520 pF total. Fix your parasitic suppressors first.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 16:08:55 -0700
"K6OXN Bob via groups.io" <bobk6oxn@...> wrote:

--

73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

It sounds like your resistors may be inductive. Metal composition are suggested here:



Also suggested are Ohnite OX or OY ceramic composition.



73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 13:11:23 -0700
"K6OXN Bob via groups.io" <bobk6oxn@...> wrote:

Ok while running at the lower CW hv, I noticed a distinct smell of burning resistors. Took the amp case off and found both of the Parasitic resistors from the Plate in the Plate Choke to be burned.


Re: L7 makes alot of smoke

 

Ok while running at the lower CW hv, I noticed a distinct smell of burning resistors. Took the amp case off and found both of the Parasitic resistors from the Plate in the Plate Choke to be burned. I am trying to determine why and what could be causing the excessive current in this circuit.? Was not transmitting for more than a minute before turning the amp off. C39 and C40 have been replaced with 500pf door knobs and test good on my meter. C41 is a door knob 47pf that also measures good. RFC 5 seems to be ok along with C44 and C45. The Tuning coils all look good and no arcing showing in that area.? I am unable to determine why the Resistors are getting so hot. Should not be that much current thru the chokes as far as I can tell.? Open to all advice.