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Re: KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

 

So, a wench is a girl that serves drinks. ?I meant to type winch.

73,
Michael, N4KZO


Re: KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

 

Wench not wrench.

73,
Michael, N4KZO


Re: KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

 

That tilt-over with a wrench, well, make sure the person doing it is strong like bull..

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 09:06:02 PM EST, Michael Smith via groups.io <tw8kcabpilot@...> wrote:


Hello Rob,

Good to hear from you. ?I sense a 50 foot tower, non-guyed, would serve me for antenna performance and ease of use. ?I prefer not to climb, so a crank-up of some kind would be best to make antenna maintenance easier. ?I recall seeing an advertisement for a tilt-over using a wench, long ago; I don¡¯t know if they still exist or the feasibility of using one. ?So, based on these parameters, I am looking for make and model advice based on performance ¡ª ease of use, mechanical integrity, and longevity. ?I wanted to get some advice before I start shopping.

Thank you.

73,
Michael, N4KZO


Re: RV75 Issues

 

Just go slowly and be careful. You will also want to take some ESD precautions. Take pictures of everything before you take is apart.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 16:37:26 -0800
"Rick K8EZB" <frboswell@...> wrote:

Jim,

Thanks for the cap info. Will get an orrder in shortly. Want to do some in-circuit testing first. I am beginning to think I might actually be able to do this!

Best,

RB






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73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

 

Hello Rob,

Good to hear from you. ?I sense a 50 foot tower, non-guyed, would serve me for antenna performance and ease of use. ?I prefer not to climb, so a crank-up of some kind would be best to make antenna maintenance easier. ?I recall seeing an advertisement for a tilt-over using a wench, long ago; I don¡¯t know if they still exist or the feasibility of using one. ?So, based on these parameters, I am looking for make and model advice based on performance ¡ª ease of use, mechanical integrity, and longevity. ?I wanted to get some advice before I start shopping.

Thank you.

73,
Michael, N4KZO


Re: KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

 

Bill,
M2 did not have any information on this legacy antenna, but this was a reasonable try. ?I had a response via qth.com with wind load information, but not survival wind speed.

Thank you for the response.

73,
Michael, N4KZO


Vernier drive

 

I'm thinking about going ahead and replacing the vernier drive for the
plate cap on my L-4B.? I got a pointer from Max-Gain for the vernier.?
The new vernier seems a bit tight to me, but I've only tried it with a
1/2" or so diameter knob.? It may be much easier to turn with the larger
2" knob.? Question for the group is does one lubricate the vernier drive
as routine maintenance??? If so, what does one use to lubricate it?

73

Stan
KM4HQE


Re: RV75 Issues

 

Jim,

Thanks for the cap info. Will get an orrder in shortly. Want to do some in-circuit testing first. I am beginning to think I might actually be able to do this!??

Best,

RB


Re: RV75 Issues

 

This is the list from my Mouser project file. Note: I usually order extras beyond what I need, especially if I am near a price break. I am also attaching my log of measured values of the old caps if you need any convincing on the Capars. Open Office spreadsheet.

Mouser # Mfr. # Manufacturer Customer # Description Order Qty.
594-2222-138-15102 MAL213815102E3 Vishay Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Axial Leaded 1000uF 16V 20% Axial RoHS Compliant 3
594-2222-138-25101 MAL213825101E3 Vishay Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Axial Leaded 100uF 16V 20% Axial RoHS Compliant 2
594-2222-138-35229 MAL213835229E3 Vishay Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Axial Leaded 22uF 16V 20% Axial RoHS Compliant 10
75-TE1155-E3 TE1155-E3 Vishay Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Axial Leaded 16V 10uF AXIAL RoHS Compliant 3



On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 10:59:33 -0800
"Rick K8EZB" <frboswell@...> wrote:

Can you recommend suitable replacements, especially of appropriate physical size?

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73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: Outer Coaxial Jacket Removal for a Long Length

 

That's basically what I said. All that is needed for a vertical "dipole" is a quarter wavelength of wire and a common mode choke a quarter wavelength back down the shield. The outside of the coax shield will happily radiate, regardless of the insulation. But everyone seems to want to do more work than is necessary. :D

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 22:13:29 +0000
"rls19" <rls19@...> wrote:

Michael,

You could put a clamp-on choke 1/4-wave down the coax, coil the coax up at that point as a choke, or just slide a 1/4-wave piece of copper tubing over the coax and solder the braid to it.

73,
Bob AD3K
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Smith via groups.io <tw8kcabpilot@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 11:20 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Outer Coaxial Jacket Removal for a Long Length

Thanks to all responding. I found the tool, a new GC brand on Ebay in Pennsylvania, not far away. A better understanding of what I was looking for helped much. As a side note, I¡¯ve decided to use RG-11 for this seamless feed-system/antenna (vertical polarized), after calculating the power handling capability of the Belden 8279 ¡ª pret-ty small.
Take care.

73,
Michael, N4KZO







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73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: Outer Coaxial Jacket Removal for a Long Length

 

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Michael,

You could put a clamp-on choke 1/4-wave down the coax, coil the coax up at that point as a choke, or just slide a 1/4-wave piece of copper tubing over the coax and solder the braid to it.

73,
Bob AD3K


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Smith via groups.io <tw8kcabpilot@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 11:20 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Outer Coaxial Jacket Removal for a Long Length
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Thanks to all responding. ?I found the tool, a new GC brand on Ebay in Pennsylvania, not far away. ?A better understanding of what I was looking for helped much. ?As a side note, I¡¯ve decided to use RG-11 for this seamless feed-system/antenna (vertical polarized), after calculating the power handling capability of the Belden 8279 ¡ª pret-ty small.
Take care.

73,
Michael, N4KZO


Re: RV75 Issues

 

Which Jim? :D

Well, if he would quit using the Steve font....

73

-James



On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:35:29 -0800
"Rick K8EZB" <frboswell@...> wrote:

Peter,

Thanks for the additional info.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:24 AM, VE7PS wrote:


Why do people keep calling me Steve?
Only because Jim did. That's mild compared to what some call me!? ;-)

RB






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73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: RV75 Issues

 

I do have a list. I'll see if I can dig it up for you a bit later.



On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 10:59:33 -0800
"Rick K8EZB" <frboswell@...> wrote:

The caps are a good place to start. Can you recommend suitable replacements, especially of appropriate physical size?

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73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

 

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Hi Mitchel,

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There isn¡¯t a standard height, but my guyed Rohn towers range from40 feet to 70 feet.? While I have two Yagis per band 20, 15 and 10m, plus one on 40m, on long skip the 20m Yagi at 70 feet is at least 1 S unit stronger on average on long skip (1000 miles +) than the one at 40 feet.? I am in rural Colorado with flat terrain with 100 feet difference in elevation. ??

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A 50 foot free standing tower will be more expensive than guyed, but installation and maintenance will be easier. Are you talking about a crank-up tower or a fixed self-supporting tower?

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I have two Orion 2800 rotors for my larger Yagis and four Yaesu 2800 rotors for the other Yagis.? They have all worked flawlessly for about 5 years replacing six TailTwisters.?

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Due to RFI from home appliances, my towers 200 to 350 feet from my house are quieter than the ones within 30 feet of the house.? You may not have an option as to where to locate a single tower.?

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In general I would suggest 70 feet, but do what makes mechanical and cost sense.? I wish my 40m Yagi was at 130 feet but it isn¡¯t !? I struggle breaking EU pile-ups in contests being in Colorado with a Yagi only at one half wavelength.

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Photo attached, all Yagis are mono-band.

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Nothing is more significant than the best antennas you can install over any modern or even vintage Drake transceiver or twins.?

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My 5-element Yagis are between 65 and 70 feet, and my 12m Yagi is at 80 feet simply because it is mounted 10 feet above the 40m Yagi.

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73, Rob, NC0B

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Smith via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

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I forgot to mention the height. ?My understanding is that a 50 foot tower height is a standard height. ?Being this is approximately 15 meters, a full wave length height for the 15 meter band, the lowest frequency band in the range of this log periodic antenna, and above obstacles around me, I expect a 50 foot tower would be a good choice. ?Concerning a rotator, I need recommendations also. ?Please help if possible.

Thank you.

73,
Michael Smith, N4KZO


Re: KLM 20-30-6LPA Wind Load Information and Tower Recommendation

 

I forgot to mention the height. ?My understanding is that a 50 foot tower height is a standard height. ?Being this is approximately 15 meters, a full wave length height for the 15 meter band, the lowest frequency band in the range of this log periodic antenna, and above obstacles around me, I expect a 50 foot tower would be a good choice. ?Concerning a rotator, I need recommendations also. ?Please help if possible.

Thank you.

73,
Michael Smith, N4KZO


Re: RV75 Issues

 

Peter,

Thanks for the additional info.


On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:24 AM, VE7PS wrote:
Why do people keep calling me Steve?
Only because Jim did. That's mild compared to what some call me!? ;-)

RB


Re: RV75 Issues

 

Rick:

On the RV-75....

Confirm the broken resistor IS a 10K ohm, like the one next to it.

The burned one on the side of P/J 206 is 150 ohm.

The manual instructions for programming the dip switch frequencies has an error in it somewhere as I recall.? Thought I had that figured out a while?back....but no...didn't work as expected.? It was a lot simpler and quicker to just start flipping the dip switches and checking the results using the TR-7.? You get the hang of it quickly that way and see your results/mistakes right away.? Forget the mathematical way!

I have those Capar electrolytics?in mine too, as do you.? I need to change them, though the RV-75 is working fine....for now.

Why do people keep calling me Steve?

73
Peter
VE7PS





On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:59?AM Rick K8EZB <frboswell@...> wrote:
Steve,

Yes, good catch! I was so preoccupied with the obvious failed resistor that I overlooked the other failed resistor.

Jim,

you may be seeing power source issues due to failed caps.
My first thougfhts as well. With two failed resistors it makes no sense to simply replace the resistors. I need to find what is causing these to fail. The caps are a good place to start. Can you recommend suitable replacements, especially of appropriate physical size?

Looks like I am going to learn more about the RV75 than I ever wanted to know!

Best,

RB
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Re: Photo Notifications

 

Rick

Yes, same value as the one above it.

Nigel


On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 6:52?PM nigel patterson <wnigelpatterson@...> wrote:
Rick, found it.

Nigel

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 5:42?PM Joe - W7RKN <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:

Looks to be the same value as the resistor right above it in the image.? (Which, BTW ¡®looks¡¯ like it is close to failure as well, although the dark spot on it could be debris from the grenaded resistor below it.)

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Joe ¨C W7RKN

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From: Group Notification [mailto:[email protected]]
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] Photo Notifications

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Rick K8EZB <frboswell@...> added the photo album RV75 Failed Resistor : Looking to identify the Rxxx number and value of the failed resisto adjacent to J-206 on the schematic diagram. Damage to the resistor body makes the color code uncertain. Rick K8EZB


The following photos have been uploaded to the RV75 Failed Resistor photo album of the [email protected] group.

By: Rick K8EZB <frboswell@...>


Re: RV75 Issues

 

Steve,

Yes, good catch! I was so preoccupied with the obvious failed resistor that I overlooked the other failed resistor.

Jim,

you may be seeing power source issues due to failed caps.
My first thougfhts as well. With two failed resistors it makes no sense to simply replace the resistors. I need to find what is causing these to fail. The caps are a good place to start. Can you recommend suitable replacements, especially of appropriate physical size?

Looks like I am going to learn more about the RV75 than I ever wanted to know!

Best,

RB
?


Re: Photo Notifications

 

Rick, found it.

Nigel


On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 5:42?PM Joe - W7RKN <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:

Looks to be the same value as the resistor right above it in the image.? (Which, BTW ¡®looks¡¯ like it is close to failure as well, although the dark spot on it could be debris from the grenaded resistor below it.)

?

Joe ¨C W7RKN

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From: Group Notification [mailto:[email protected]]
Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] Photo Notifications

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Rick K8EZB <frboswell@...> added the photo album RV75 Failed Resistor : Looking to identify the Rxxx number and value of the failed resisto adjacent to J-206 on the schematic diagram. Damage to the resistor body makes the color code uncertain. Rick K8EZB


The following photos have been uploaded to the RV75 Failed Resistor photo album of the [email protected] group.

By: Rick K8EZB <frboswell@...>