开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 开云体育

full duplex?


 

Thanks for the comments regarding my disappointment with the DD mode.

I seem to remember a ham in Canada using 2 ID1's back to back as a full duplex repeater. Has anyone tried this? Any downside? (except for the cost of 2 radios).

Al


 

The RP2D is essentially just two ID-1's in a rack mount box.

See the photo's section of the dstar_digital group:

--- In D-STAR_23cm@..., "let_cyber" <kb2ayu@...> wrote:

Thanks for the comments regarding my disappointment with the DD mode.

I seem to remember a ham in Canada using 2 ID1's back to back as a full duplex repeater. Has anyone tried this? Any downside? (except for the cost of 2 radios).

Al


Lor
 

开云体育

Perhaps you are confusing the RP2V with the RP2D. The data repeater is simplex and has only one ID-1-line module in it, and only one antenna connection.
?
--Lor W3QA


From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...] On Behalf Of kb9mwr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:12 AM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: full duplex?

?

The RP2D is essentially just two ID-1's in a rack mount box.

See the photo's section of the dstar_digital group:


--- In D-STAR_23cm@yahoogroups.com, "let_cyber" wrote:
>
> Thanks for the comments regarding my disappointment with the DD mode.
>
> I seem to remember a ham in Canada using 2 ID1's back to back as a full duplex repeater. Has anyone tried this? Any downside? (except for the cost of 2 radios).
>
> Al
>

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.23/2447 - Release Date: 10/24/09 14:31:00


 

开云体育

Actually, which is confirmed by looking at the pictures, the RP2D is a SINGLE radio. The RP2V is a dual-radio box.

?

High Speed Data is Simplex

1.2 Voice is duplex.

?

?

So when you have both, you will need asset of cavities at the repeater called a triplexor. It’s designed to handle 3 different frequencies, the transmit and receive of the voice repeater and the transceiver for the data portion.

?

Ed WA4YIH

?

From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...] On Behalf Of kb9mwr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:12 AM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: full duplex?

?

?

The RP2D is essentially just two ID-1's in a rack mount box.

See the photo's section of the dstar_digital group:


--- In D-STAR_23cm@..., "let_cyber" <kb2ayu@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the comments regarding my disappointment with the DD mode.
>
> I seem to remember a ham in Canada using 2 ID1's back to back as a full duplex repeater. Has anyone tried this? Any downside? (except for the cost of 2 radios).
>
> Al
>


 

开云体育

?

While TCP/IP will make some use of a duplex link, in general, many TCP/IP communications are simplex in nature. Web browsing, email retrieval are all relatively one-sided data flows.

?

You can indeed put two ID-1s back to back and send Ethernet traffic between them in what looks like a two-way path. But unless you had some filtering, you’d never be able to pull off full-duplex. Most people never realize that the ID-1 is half-duplex. But if you look at the front panel lights, you see the red and green lights constant blinking at each other. The ID-1 has an extremely fast turnaround compared to most other radios. I believe that it is less than 10 ms., as opposed to the standard AX.25 radio that has 150 ms.

?

The ID-1 does allow a significant number of services compared to many other solutions. With the higher power, it does have some good range without resorting to highly directive antennas. The Ethernet/TCP/IP (It will do NetBEUI or Novell if you want) transport means that many applications can be used as-is. We don’t have to create special applications as we did for packet radio. It’s also in a somewhat exclusive portion of the ham bands, so we don’t have to share it with everyone.

?

With all of its shortcomings, it still can make some EMA managers drool over our capabilities!

?

Ed WA4YIH

?

From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...] On Behalf Of let_cyber
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:55 AM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] full duplex?

?

?

Thanks for the comments regarding my disappointment with the DD mode.

I seem to remember a ham in Canada using 2 ID1's back to back as a full duplex repeater. Has anyone tried this? Any downside? (except for the cost of 2 radios).

Al