Re: DD through the RP2 repeater
Thank you. I was hoping there was a way to extend the DD transfer range.
Lloyd
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Lloyd think of RP2D as an access point (Wifi) through the D-Star system. In that respect you can only get access to the Internet
73 Manos SV1IW
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I have succeeded in accessing the internet with DD. I have also transferred large files between two ID-1s. I can even send emails and ICS 213s. All this is good.
My question is how do I set up to send DD files through the RP2-D repeater (if it can be done)?
Please give me all settings.
73
Lloyd, K1LGJ
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Re: DD through the RP2 repeater
Lloyd think of RP2D as an access point (Wifi) through the D-Star system. In that respect you can only get access to the Internet
73 Manos SV1IW
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I have succeeded in accessing the internet with DD. I have also transferred large files between two ID-1s. I can even send emails and ICS 213s. All this is good.
My question is how do I set up to send DD files through the RP2-D repeater (if it can be done)?
Please give me all settings.
73
Lloyd, K1LGJ
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Re: DD through the RP2 repeater
Evans F. Mitchell; KD4EFM / WQFK-894
Good Morning,
I have been mauling over how to best answer
this....
I have a folder (NFS SHARE) on KJ4ACN that I tested
with
a Mac and Windows. Worked like a charm.
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I enabled Samba to do this feature. Not for the faint at
heart, since I was
able to do this both local admin, and again using WebMIN to
enable and
disable the folders...
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Yes, you need to have samba running. YES you need to BLOCK
it
from the router, UNLESS you are like me with my windows and
Linux
box at home, file pushing (Linux I use ssh server connection)
from home
I just turn the service on, push the files over from the
windows box,
and then turn it back off.
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You don't have to set the port up on the router if you do not
want to.
But in order to have the ability to push / pull files using an
ID-1, you
need to setup samba.
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You setup samba to server 172. and 10.
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Since I have elected to run DHCP on the LAN.... an ID-1 with
pc running
DHCP, it would be assigned an IP from the gateway router, and
be able
to surf the net / send emails... Even with your dstar assigned
IP you would
be able to do the same since the network start at 10.1.9.x,
you can DHCP
10.1.1.10 to 10.1.1.254 and still be able to do what your
talking about...
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Once KJ4ACN get's it's internet back shortly, I will pull the
config file
from /etc/samba/ and send it to you for
review...
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Evans F. Mitchell
KD4EFM
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I have succeeded in accessing the internet with DD. I have also transferred
large files between two ID-1s. I can even send emails and ICS 213s. All this is
good.
My question is how do I set up to send DD files through the RP2-D
repeater (if it can be done)?
Please give me all
settings.
73
Lloyd, K1LGJ
Admin
KE5RCS
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Tony? This why I am asking for input and still not break any of the F.C.C. rules I know soon Icom is coming with the IC-9100 with Dstar I am learning all about this and the help of other's will Dstar going and stay legal Thanks again Tony :tom N(HSM
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From: Tony Langdon
Subject: Re: [D-STAR_23cm] D-STAR on HF
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 3:34 PM
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At 05:02 AM 9/28/2010, you wrote:
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>Moderators Note: Be aware that using D-STAR on HF bands lower than
>10m is likely illegal due to bandwidth limitations on HF bands.
Depends where you are. It's almost certainly legal in Australia, for
instance. Our bandwidth limitation on 160-12m is 8 kHz.
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
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At 05:02 AM 9/28/2010, you wrote:
Moderators Note: Be aware that using D-STAR on HF bands lower than 10m is likely illegal due to bandwidth limitations on HF bands.
Depends where you are. It's almost certainly legal in Australia, for instance. Our bandwidth limitation on 160-12m is 8 kHz. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
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Moderators Note: Be aware that using D-STAR on HF bands lower than 10m is likely illegal due to bandwidth limitations on HF bands.
Additionally, D-STAR was designed for VHF/UHF.
HF has conditions such as QRM, QRN, fading & multi-path
that D-STAR was not designed to accommodate.
However, experimenting with D-STAR on 6m & 10m could be interesting and
repeaters for 6m could be constructed using analog FM repeaters
with the NI repeater software.
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Hi this Tom N9HSM i HAVE just started a group on yahoo call Dstar HF.The group i have started is dedicated to Dstar hf,You all have me alot to understand Dstar and what it can do for us ham radio. Since Icom is coming out with IC-9100 it will do dstar. I have kenwood TS-2000 with a DEV-Adapter i can used on HF or any where with this radio. Thank you all for what you are doing for hams and Dstar.
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DD through the RP2 repeater
I have succeeded in accessing the internet with DD. I have also transferred large files between two ID-1s. I can even send emails and ICS 213s. All this is good.
My question is how do I set up to send DD files through the RP2-D repeater (if it can be done)?
Please give me all settings.
73
Lloyd, K1LGJ
Admin
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Re: ID1 radio for Emcomms to support WebEoc ??
First, let's get the details correct.
The Internet is NOT going to fail. Just ain't going to happen, it's an impossibility because of the design. That statement is a myth that corrupts a lot of disaster planning: the Internet can and has failed within disaster areas. While it is completely true that short of a major asteroid strike or global nuclear war the entire internet is not going to go down everywhere in the world, it is wholly unreasonable to assume that there's going to be internet where you need it when you need it unless you're planning to bring internet with you from somewhere else. Disasters have a nasty habit of destroying infrastructure - the infrastructure on which internet is conveyed. I'm pretty sure internet failed in Haiti. Internet failed or was degraded in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina. Internet was degraded or failed in the recent earthquake in Chile. Internet was degraded or failed in the aftermath of the 1998 ice storm in Ontario/Quebec/NE US depending where you went. Even the little magnitude 5 earthquake we had here crashed the cell network for a few hours and reduced internet to a crawl for a while, and it didn't even actually anything of note. Internet was degraded, and it wasn't even a disaster! If you are depending on internet to be available for your communications at any location, you've already lost the battle before you start.
What CAN and WILL often happen is that YOUR connection to all or part of the Internet may fail. Or, the server that is hosting WebEOC may lose it's connection to all or part of the Internet.
So, If you have lost your connection to the Internet, but A DSTAR repeater with an Internet connection and the High Speed Data module still has its connection, then by using an ID-1 on your side, you can get access to WebEOC.
That's a huge "but". In the event of an emergency, one should not expect a handy D-STAR repeater to be available with an internet connection. If one is, that's awesome, but to plan for there to be one would be folly. The primary concern, in my estimation, would be to get message traffic out of the disaster area to a place where it can be put on the internet or wherever it needs to go. For D-Star that means having enough repeaters distributed over a sufficiently wide area that whatever likely disaster happens, there's always repeaters near the edges of, but outside, the disaster area. D-Star has nowhere near that kind of coverage yet, although it's probably close in some geographic areas. Once you have that, then your emcomms deal with bridging from the disaster area to areas outside where the infrastructure is unharmed. Or, you can bypass the Internet completely by using 2 ID-1s as an Ethernet bridge. There's a little bit of networking that have to be added to make it work, but it's a pretty simple process.
Two ID-1s talking to each other, is essentially the equivalent of a half-duplex crossover Ethernet cable running at 100 kbps. You can hook two computers together, but you also have to worry about things such as IP Addresss and DNS access. This, I think, is the real strength of D-STAR... being able to build ad-hoc data networks over radio, capable of relatively long distance and high speed transmission. You could extend internet from where it works into a disaster area where it does not, with D-STAR. The ability to do that is very important. You can't assume there will be working repeaters nearby. It would have to be a pretty small disaster (possible, certainly, but not likely I think) to have any realistic chance of repeaters being available within the range of a 10 W transmission. I think you would need multiple links to go from a disaster site out to somewhere that you could reasonably expect there to be working internet. Ed is very right about the coverage for high speed data, and that pretty much guarantees needing to set up your own network backbone - a web of HSD links and routing, etc. leading out of the disaster area to a distant repeater or other internet access point of some kind. 73 de VE3OIJ -Darin
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Re: ID1 radio for Emcomms to support WebEoc ??
First, let¡¯s get the details correct.
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The Internet is NOT going to fail. Just ain¡¯t going to happen, it¡¯s an impossibility because of the design.
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What CAN and WILL often happen is that YOUR connection to all or part of the Internet may fail. Or, the server that is hosting WebEOC may lose it¡¯s connection
to all or part of the Internet.
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So, If you have lost your connection to the Internet, but A DSTAR repeater with an Internet connection and the High Speed Data module still has its connection,
then by using an ID-1 on your side, you can get access to WebEOC.
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If the WebEOC server has lost its connection, then things are kind of the same, but actually different because the normal IP address and DNS record used to
access WebEOC are no longer valid. Give a good networking guy a little bit of incentive, and this is not hard to fix.
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Or, you can bypass the Internet completely by using 2 ID-1s as an Ethernet bridge. There¡¯s a little bit of networking that have to be added to make it work,
but it¡¯s a pretty simple process.
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Two ID-1s talking to each other, is essentially the equivalent of a half-duplex crossover Ethernet cable running at 100 kbps. You can hook two computers together,
but you also have to worry about things such as IP Addresss and DNS access.
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I¡¯m pretty sure that I¡¯ve run WebEOC of an ID-1 through a D-STAR repeater.? No big deal.
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Also remember that the coverage of the High Speed Data is not as great as DV mode. A 300kHz wide 10W signal just doesn¡¯t do as much as a 6 kHz wide 10W signal.
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Ed WA4YIH
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On Behalf Of Evans F. Mitchell; KD4EFM / WQFK-894
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:44 AM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: RE: [D-STAR_23cm] ID1 radio for Emcomms to support WebEoc ??
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Leon, greetings.
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This can take place on the following items:
1) there is an ID-1 on the ip network that WebEoc resides on.
2) The ID-1 accessing the webEOC on the other end is also authorized
??? to access the network. (ip block is 10.x.x.x and static ip'ed AWAY FROM
???
the D-STAR Network
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The web server running the webEOC can or should have a second NIC and firewalled
for all practical reasons, but firewalled in a way that port 80 or 8080 is only accessible
from the 10./8 network or from another subnet like 192/16 or 192/8. That way the
server has some for of protection of it's own.
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AS A LAST DITCH EFFORT, all the above would be a YES.
As for it being done now...... Not here in our area.... so no.
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This probably could be tested state side in the US at the Georgia
WebEOC corp. HQ if they took some interest into it...
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Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / WQFK-894
Florida D-Star Tech Support
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From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...]
On Behalf Of Leon
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:25 AM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] ID1 radio for Emcomms to support WebEoc ??
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Hi all ....
The disaster units in Trinidad are running WebEoc . If the internet fails- its bye bye webEoc .....Has anyone seen or tried running the WebEoc software on a couple ID1 radio ?????
Leon 9z4bm
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DCC Forum Schedule Announced for ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference, Portland, OR September 24 - 26
The ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communication Conference)
will be in Portland, OR on September 24 - 26.
TAPR is the national digital ham organization and the DCC is the annual conference.
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The DCC Forum Schedule has been published & is available at:
As you will see there is something for everyone at the DCC including Technical Presentations & Papers
covering Digital Voice, Digital Amateur Television, Softwware Defined Radio & Digital Data and also Introductory Presentations.
The Saturday night banquet speaker will be Dr. Nathan ¡°Chip¡± Cohen, W1YW.
Yaesu has contributed a VX-8DR HT as a major banquet prize. There will be other prizes as well.
More details about the banquet at:
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