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Re: Digest Number 38
I wonder why the D-STAR radios don't make use of AMBE chips ability to process DTMF. The vocoder supposedly has RTP Payload support for DTMF Digits (much like RFC2833).
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I guess I like the idea as a control-op of being able to monitor the d-star repeater from the IP phone on my desk. And being able to take a directed D-Star call over that phone. --- In D-STAR_23cm@..., Tony Langdon <vk3jed@...> wrote:
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Re: Digest Number 38
开云体育As I mentioned in my other message, that is done on a local basis. When you have D-STAR systems connected to reflectors, you get into International law and have to be very careful. ? Bridging D-STAR to a phone patch is one thing, bridging it to Asterisk is quite another. A phone patch is a much more controllable situation. Asterisk is commonly assumed as a pipeline to everything that can be connected to it, which is quite a lot! ? Ed WA4YIH ? From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...] On Behalf Of kb9mwr
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:24 AM To: D-STAR_23cm@... Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: Digest Number 38 ? ? I wasn't referring to Bridging D-star to AllStar or another amateur analog network. |
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Re: Digest Number 38
The difference is the control point. Very few phone patches allow for inbound connections, outbound is the commonly accepted implementation. With outbound, there's a definitive process where a licensed amateur initiates the communication.
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But, phone patches are generally implemented on simplex or a single repeater. With some connections to D-STAR, the asterisk system has been connected to a repeater that is connected to a reflector, that's when you get in a lot of issues. Many reflectors have a number of systems from a number of countries connected to it. Not all of those countries allow for third party traffic. That can be a big problem. And while I always hate to get into this argument, the rules pertaining to immediate danger to life, limb, or property really aren't the way that you state it. Let me put it another way. Why would your local fire or ambulance service need their own systems? Because just about everything that they do is immediate danger to life, limb, or property. Do you want them coming into the amateur bands and using our resources? For those of us who practice emergency communications, we should be professionals so that what we do during an emergency is NOT an emergency, it's a professional communications system. This is what fire and ambulance professionals do. We shouldn't need, nor desire to break the rules. Ed WA4YIH -----Original Message-----
From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...] On Behalf Of John Barrett Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:30 PM To: D-STAR_23cm@... Subject: Re: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: Digest Number 38 Phone patches have been around for years and have been used to allow non-hams to talk on the air -- so where is the problem so long as the communication does not otherwise violate the rules ?? (no commerial interest, no foul language, etc) I would think it is the responsibility of the ham initiating the call, and of the control operator of the patch to make sure the conversation is within the rules. Lastly -- during an emergency -- all those rules go in the pot anyway when it comes to immediate danger to life, limb, or property. Woodrick, Ed wrote:
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Re: Digest Number 38
At 04:23 PM 12/19/2009, you wrote:
Well, if you can bridge to Asterisk/AllStar, you can also bridge to the PSTN, given that Asterisk supports that. Of course, you could use a D-STAR radio connected to a conventional autopatch unit. One possible challenge I can see is DTMF. D-STAR radios don't make use of AMBE's capability to transmit DTMF digits out of band, and the vocoder is likely to seriously distort the tones. One workaround might be to use the slow data channel for command and control of the autopatch. Would likely require some development work, because the data channel has no error correction, and you don't want errors when transmitting phone numbers! :) 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL |
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Re: Digest Number 38
John Barrett
Phone patches have been around for years and have been used to allow non-hams to talk on the air -- so where is the problem so long as the communication does not otherwise violate the rules ?? (no commerial interest, no foul language, etc) I would think it is the responsibility of the ham initiating the call, and of the control operator of the patch to make sure the conversation is within the rules.
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Lastly -- during an emergency -- all those rules go in the pot anyway when it comes to immediate danger to life, limb, or property. Woodrick, Ed wrote:
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Re: Digest Number 38
开云体育There have been some attempts to link between Asterisk and D-STAR, actually it has been done a few times. ? BUT, there are SERIOUS legal concerns when doing so, which has resulted in most people deciding that it should not be done. ? A few examples, ? If I am on D-STAR talking, D-STAR identifies for me, so I don’t have to worry about voicing my call sign. If the system that I am linked to is then connected to a non-D-STAR system, such as an FM repeater, then the FM stations never know my call sign. ? If Asterisk is connected to a non-Amateur system such as a land-line telephone or remote VOIP user, then there are no mechanisms to assure that a non-Amateur cannot talk on an Amateur system. ? Ed WA4YIH ? From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...] On Behalf Of kb9mwr
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:39 AM To: D-STAR_23cm@... Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: Digest Number 38 ? ? That's was going to be my guess on the course. |
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Re: Digest Number 38
That's was going to be my guess on the course.
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Any inter-connectivity between those systems? Specifically between the D-Star and Asterisk systems? Steve, KB9MWR --- In D-STAR_23cm@..., "Kent Johnson" <w7aor@...> wrote:
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Re: Digest Number 38
开云体育Very light on detail. I was disappointed, but then perhaps an emergency communicator does not need to know ?much about the technology. ? NARRI (see ) uses D-Star, IRLP and All Star Linking (Asterisk app_rpt node 2030 which can do it all). ? Kent W7AOR ? From:
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Re: New ARRL Course on Digital Technology for EmComms
If anyone has taken this course I'd like to hear more about what you thought of the CD-ROM... specifically if you thought it was worth the $50 spent.
I'd also like to get a feel if there is any inkling of future technology. For instance, I was actually impressed by the 2nd edition of the VOIP: Internet Linking for Radio Amateurs by K1RFD because this revised edition gave an overview of Asterisk and app_rpt. |
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New ARRL Course on Digital Technology for EmComms
New ARRL Course on Digital Technology for
EmComms
With digital technology becoming an integral part of Amateur Radio, hams interested in emergency communications now have a new tool to help them take advantage of emerging modes such as Packet Radio APRS, Winlink 2000, IRLP, EchoLink and WIRES-II, D-STAR, APCO25, HF sound card modes and Automatic Link Establishment (ALE). will introduce hams to all of the ways Amateur Radio operators are using digital technology as a valuable emergency communications tool. Written by ARRL
Publications Manager and QST Editor Steve Ford, WB8IMY, this self-study
CD-ROM will answer such questions as: Can you transfer supply lists or
personnel assignments between emergency operations sites? Can you get critical
e-mails to the Internet if a connection goes down? Can you relay digital
images of damage at specific locations? Can you track the locations of emergency
personnel and display them on computer maps?
Illustrations, screenshots, Internet links and audio files are used to demonstrate
transmission modes and equipment configurations. Bite-sized learning units
and interactive knowledge checks make learning interesting and fun.
"This course is a great starting point for anyone interested in the public service applications of digital communications technology," said Ford. |
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This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the D-STAR_23cm group. File : /Usage/CQ VHF Article D-STAR Action Continues to Grow.pdf Uploaded by : wb9qzb_groups <wb9qzb_groups@...> Description : CQ VHF Article "D-STAR Action Continues to Grow" by K0NR You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, wb9qzb_groups <wb9qzb_groups@...> |
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This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the D-STAR_23cm group. File : /Digital Voice (DV) Repeaters & Data (DD) Access Points/Using Analog Test Equipment to Evaluate D-STAR Systems.pdf Uploaded by : wb9qzb_groups <wb9qzb_groups@...> Description : Using Conventional Analog Test Gear to Evaluate & Test D-STAR System Performance by Utah VHF Society You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, wb9qzb_groups <wb9qzb_groups@...> |
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Re: NXDN
Gentleman although this is not a topic of this group, the info regarding Mototrbo and Nxdn are not accurate. Nexedge (the Kenwood version of nxdn) has excellent voice quality and it is far more advanced.It supports mixed mode simultaneously (and not one at a time), it uses trunking with up to 48 site connectivity. A big difference also is that Mototrbo can only support 2 concurrent channels no matter how many repeaters you connect via Ip. Nexedge supports up to 30 concurrent channels per single site (trunking mode) and can connect up to 48 sites to one big network. TDMA (mototrbo) uses 12.5 KHz, NXDN uses 6.5 KHz. TDMA needs time synchronizing so shorter distance between user and repeater. There are many more details that I can explain if there is interest but using off list mail.
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Regards Manos SV1IW --- In D-STAR_23cm@..., adkins.james@... wrote:
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THE NEXT ANNUAL VoIP TOPICAL CONFERENCE IS SATURDAY APRIL 10, 2010
THE NEXT ANNUAL VoIP TOPICAL CONFERENCE IS SATURDAY APRIL 10, 2010
at Circus-Circus in Las Vegas . - Since 2002 - Each year the meeting is of a broader scope including all the major VoIP systems in use by the amateur radio community, i.e., IRLP, Echo link, EchoIRLP, All Star, D-Star and DV Dongle. Here is a summary of details: Place: Las Vegas Circus-Circus Conference Area. The conference area is under the North High Rise. Enter from north-east side of the swimming pool. Date: Saturday April 10, 2010 Time: 8:30am to 5pm Program: the various VoIP systems; presentations with demonstrations. Venue: Topical Conference plus Continental Breakfast and buffet style Deli Lunch Cost: $85 per person. Pay by March 13. $90.00 if by PayPal. No one allowed without payment, no exceptions. RSVP: Required by March 1, 2010 with deposit of $25.00. Registration: Please use the Registration Form at www.narri.org/voip_registration.html Please send your check to NARRI, c/o Kent Johnson, 395 Peaceful Street, Las Vegas, NV 89110 ASAP or $90 if by PayPay to W7AOR with memo identifying conference. Hotel Rooms: Circus-Circus Hotel will give attendees give a group rate of $69.95 for Friday April 9. In order to get that rate, please identify your self as attending the VoIP Conference and give the Group Code B04VIP. Register online at or call the Reservations Desk at 1-800-634-3450 option 1 . Talk-in Repeaters: NARRI's downtown repeaters: 447.725 (-) PL 107.2 and 147.000 (-) PL 123, AllStar Repeater on 449.725 (-) PL 94.8 or NARRI's D-STAR Repeater on 446.800 (-) or 145.175 (-) normally connected to Western D-Star Reflector REF014C Look forward to seeing you in Las Vegas, Please direct your questions to Kent W7AOR, w7aor@... or phone 702-452-4412. See you in Las Vegas. Kent W7AOR www.narri.org |
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Re: ID-1 and Windows 7
Kerry Atkinson
开云体育Check your drivers in the device manager when you have the ID1 connected.? Look under the ports (com and lpt) and see if you see it there.? If you do it will tell you what com port the radio is on.? If you have a built in com port and it is on com 1 move the radio to com2 or if it is on com2 move the radio to com 1 (try to make sure that the radio and the com port are not both on even or odd port numbers together).? ? ? If not then check and see if there is an unknown device (one that has a ?? If so then? unplug the radio from the computer, delete the device and start over.? ? See if that ?helps ? From: D-STAR_23cm@... [mailto:D-STAR_23cm@...] On Behalf Of kk9h
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:56 PM To: D-STAR_23cm@... Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: ID-1 and Windows 7 ? ? I tried all these steps and unfortunately, it still doesn't work. The program and the radio just can't seem to find each other. I went through all 256 comm port possibilities and none of them would respond to the radio. |
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Re: ID-1 and Windows 7
kk9h
I tried all these steps and unfortunately, it still doesn't work. The program and the radio just can't seem to find each other. I went through all 256 comm port possibilities and none of them would respond to the radio.
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I'll just have to run it from the control head. 73, Don --- In D-STAR_23cm@..., Kerry Atkinson <katkinson@...> wrote:
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