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Linux RT/EMC CD


 


From: Andrew Werby <drewid@...>

From: WAnliker@...
Subject: Re: EMC & Linux--- Help!!!!!

Would it be possible for one of our more knowledgeable people on EMC/LINIX to
write up a short discourse from step one on how, where etc. to get this
system going.
1. Where to find the programs, and what to download.
2. How to install it in our computer, pitfalls.
3. A bit more basic information on how to get started for us raw recruits to
your war zone.
4. Help get more of us beginners into your world.

Thank you in advance,

bill
List manager
[What a good idea! I second the motion. I've been trying to follow this
discussion, but this would help put it in perspective. I think there's a
market for a CD that would install realtime linux and a compatible version
of EMC which would just work, without all the headaches so exquisitely
detailed in some of the foregoing posts. I'm sure there would be enough
challenges for most of us in just making parts...]

Andrew Werby


Andrew Werby - United Artworks
Sculpture, Jewelry, and Other Art Stuff



I have the equipment to do that, but I'm a bit pressed for time at
the moment. Still, this could be an interesting project.

There are a couple of ways this could go:

a) A rt/emc distribution disk that installs from scratch on a bare
machine.

b) A rt/emc upgrade disk that updates a current linux system with
emc and an rt patched kernel (including all of the sources, of course).

B is a lot easier to do since you could put together a generic kernel
that would run with most hardware and ignore the configuration problems
with X, setting up disks, etc. Loadable modules would keep the kernel
size down to something reasonable.

I think option A might have a pretty wide audience, but B is probably
more doable in the short term.

How many might be interested in an option B disk at, say $49?
If I get 10 or so affirmatives, I would persue this.

Another option would be to bundle it with a currently produced distribution
so you'd load and configure linux and then do the rt/emc upgrade.

These would be CDRs; you can get pressings of a 100 or so CDs, but the
costs don't get reasonable until you're in the 500-1000 range and
this software is moving too fast to immortalize that many copies.

Either reply on the list or send me e-mail direct; I'll summarize in
a couple of days.

Paul

--
Paul Amaranth | Rochester MI, USA
Aurora Group, Inc. | Software Development
paul@... | Unix / C / Tcl-Tk


 

In a message dated 6/7/99 12:57:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
paul@... writes:


There are a couple of ways this could go:

a) A rt/emc distribution disk that installs from scratch on a bare
machine.

b) A rt/emc upgrade disk that updates a current LINUX system with
EMC and an rt patched kernel (including all of the sources, of
course).
I would initially see how to do step A installing on a bare machine,
including how do you boot in the first place, with DOS, or LINUX? Then would
be interested in the next steps. Can the programs be downloaded online now,
and where, and which programs? I think that those interested in the LINUX
system as we are discussing, that have no experience what so ever have to
start with the very basic steps, at least I do. Then I assume we have to
upgrade the kernel??????
bill
list manager


Tim Goldstein
 

I haven't tried the product, but Ron Wickersham previously posted the URL
for a Linux Distribution that is actually RedHat 5.2 with the real time
patch already installed. The website is . The cost
with a Full version of RedHat 5.2 (I am guessing this means the books and
all?) is only $45.00 and if you want just CD 1 (in RedHat that is all you
need to get it installed) it is $35.00

I talked with Fred Proctor about this product and he thought it might make
it easier for someone getting started, but had not tried it to verify that
it does work correctly.

I have no reason to purchase it as I have already gotten through the
patching the kernel barrier with the help of Matt and Jon, but if someone
wanted to pop for it I would be happy to load it on a spare system and see
if it will do what we need and then ship it back to the owner.


Tim
[Denver, CO]

-----Original Message-----
From: WAnliker@... [mailto:WAnliker@...]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:19 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Linux RT/EMC CD


From: WAnliker@...

In a message dated 6/7/99 12:57:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
paul@... writes:


There are a couple of ways this could go:

a) A rt/emc distribution disk that installs from scratch on a bare
machine.

b) A rt/emc upgrade disk that updates a current LINUX system with
EMC and an rt patched kernel (including all of the sources, of
course).
I would initially see how to do step A installing on a bare machine,
including how do you boot in the first place, with DOS, or LINUX?
Then would
be interested in the next steps. Can the programs be downloaded
online now,
and where, and which programs? I think that those interested in
the LINUX
system as we are discussing, that have no experience what so ever have to
start with the very basic steps, at least I do. Then I assume we have to
upgrade the kernel??????
bill
list manager

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for a Linux Distribution that is actually RedHat 5.2 with the real time
patch already installed. The website is . The
cost
with a Full version of RedHat 5.2 (I am guessing this means the books and
all?) is only $45.00 and if you want just CD 1 (in RedHat that is all you
need to get it installed) it is $35.00
On the subject of Redhat 5.2 prices, the lowest I've found is a small
company here in the U.K which sells the distribution for 2 (approx. $3)
most other Linux related CDs there are at the same price too. Even with
shipping should still work out cheap.

Mo


Tim Goldstein
 

There are may people selling copies of the RedHat distribution for only a
few $ and is you want you can actually download the whole thing for free
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/old-releases/redhat-5.2/i386/ is one source).
But, if you have never installed or used Linux I would H I G H L Y suggest
that you get the Official RedHat Installation Guide book. Without it you
have very little chance of getting Linux installed and running.

So, considering the book is almost mandatory you may as well run off to your
local software vendor and pick up a boxed set of RedHat 5.2 which includes
the book and a number of application. Besides, buying the real boxed RedHat
set helps support some of the people that are trying to make Linux easier to
install and use. I would also suggest not tarrying as the RedHat version
that is current is 6.0 and at this point you can not run EMC on the kernel
that is included in 6.0 from what I have been told.


Tim
[Denver, CO]

-----Original Message-----
From: Mo [mailto:mo@...]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 8:48 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Linux RT/EMC CD


From: "Mo" <mo@...>

for a Linux Distribution that is actually RedHat 5.2 with the real time
patch already installed. The website is . The
cost
with a Full version of RedHat 5.2 (I am guessing this means the
books and
all?) is only $45.00 and if you want just CD 1 (in RedHat that
is all you
need to get it installed) it is $35.00
On the subject of Redhat 5.2 prices, the lowest I've found is a small
company here in the U.K which sells the distribution for 2 (approx. $3)
most other Linux related CDs there are at the same price too. Even with
shipping should still work out cheap.

Mo




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