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Re: AC drives

Raymond Heckert
 

I think they're referred to as 'written pole' motors.
You're virtually 'writing' every pole with a pulse of
current.

RayHex

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From: gittt2000 <gitlang@...>



I've been confused between DC Brushless and AC
synchronous Servo
motors and thought I'd sorted this out, but now I'm
confused again.

The MAC AC Servo motors by Indramat (now Bosch Rexroth)
are described
as synchronous but they are not similar to ordinary ac
induction
motors. They have a wound stator, electronic commutation,
and a rotor
comprised of 6 (or another multiple of 3 presumably)
permanent
magnets, rather than the squirrel cage of conductors
which form the
normal induction motor rotor. As far as I can see there
is no
induction involved - the stator produces a rotating
magnetic field
and the magnetic rotor follows it. What makes it
synchronous is the
commutation which signals the servo drive to supply the
correctly
phased stator drive.

How would you describe that type of motor?


Re: vector's learning curve too big, any other suggestions

 

If ist is 2D and 21/2D try MillWrite 2000'
Import drawings as HPGL or
DXF,
Carl

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "dhuffguitars" <dhuffguitars@m...> wrote:
I need to have a cad/cam program to load my drawings into to cut
inlays for me. I am using Corel draw, but can't figure out how to
make them work in Vector, I have the manual and I am lost. Is there
any cad/cam program out there that is more artist friendly, instead
of for the computer mind type?
Bobcad?


Re: tkemc for win32 platform

Ray Henry
 

Erie

All of the source files are in the repository,


Ray

? ?From: "Shelbyville Design & Signworks" <signworks@...>
Subject: tkemc for win32 platform

after many trials and tribulations, I now have emc running somewhat
reliably on my 8'x12' gantry router. On to phase 2, running emc
remotely. Unfortunately, the NIST website no longer has any of the EMC
stuff on it. Did anyone download the TkEMC file for win32 from the
website?

Erie Patsellis
Shelbyville Design & Signworks
1309 W. S. 7th Street
Shelbyville, IL 62565
(217)774-4444
visit our website at www.shelbyvilledesign.com



vector's learning curve too big, any other suggestions

dhuffguitars
 

I need to have a cad/cam program to load my drawings into to cut
inlays for me. I am using Corel draw, but can't figure out how to
make them work in Vector, I have the manual and I am lost. Is there
any cad/cam program out there that is more artist friendly, instead
of for the computer mind type?
Bobcad?


Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder

b564htf
 

I've thought about hydraulic drive CNC for years. This may have
already been discussed but my idea is to use a closed system with
single shot pistons powered by solenoids or a motor driven cam. Each
stroke of the piston would pump a metered amount of fluid from one
side of the cylinder to the other kind of like a hydraulic jack. One
stroke of the piston would equal a fixed amount cylinder travel. A bi-
directional piston with check valves could be used to change the
direction. Example: 1000 piston strokes could equal 1" of
travel, kind of like a linear stepping motor. A stroke counter
could keep track of the position. This system should work with
stepper motor software. Some obvious negatives I can think of: Slow
speed (?), piston seal leakage, temperature may change volume of
fluid (?). Just thinking out loud but I'd like to hear what
others
think.

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "al5502" <telecomt@t...> wrote:
Did somebody try to get rid of the feed screw all together
and replace it with a hydraulic cylinder?
At the first glance it may present several advantages:
no backlash, big force at low cost.
Alex


Re: sherline table top machines

 

Yo Larry;

Sherlines, Taigs, Mini-Mills and the like are generally refered to as desktop
machines. TV Tray more like, but the problem I'm seeing, is that I want to do
stuff that's a little bigger than they can manage. Unfortunately, the only
stuff up from that size, is a mill-drill, whose table and movement, take up
almost as much space as a regular mill. They're nice teensy machines, but I'm
left with putting together parts and pieces for something in between on an
equally teensy budget. If you've got any projects bigger than a few inches on a
side, your best bet would probably be cnc-ing a square column mill-drill like
the Rong-Fu boring and Milling machine, or getting a used, bigger mill.

Bill


On Tue Nov 5 13:40:01 2002, larry, <lseguine@...> wrote:

I am intrested in coments reguarding the sherline line of equipment.
I owned a jobshop machine shop 20 years ago. I had some pretty nice
equipment at that time and learned to appreciate GOOD tools. I am now
considering doing some work on small scale projects, and am in need of
setting up a new shop. I have looked at the sherline line and to me
it looks toy like. However looks can be very deciving.

I would appreciate any coments reguarding that line, also i would like
to know what other equipment is out there these days. I also was
looking at a line called TAIG mills any thoughts on this equipment line ?

i am absolutly intrested in setting things up with CNC operatons. The
CNC was just a dream in the days of my shop way beyond anything that
could have been afforded by a small shop. so this is going to be a new
learning period for me, but i am determined to go this way

Larry Seguine

Alaska Tool And Die
aka Far North Creations
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Re: Inexpensive PCB engraver

turbulatordude
 

I put 'quickstep' and 'cnc' into google and got...




is this what you are looking for ?

Dave



--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Aussiedude" <aussiedude@e...> wrote:
I seem to remember some one was asking about an inexpensive PCB
machined.
This may work, i have heard of them being used before.

----- Original Message -----
From: "aubob2002" <RobertiBishop@A...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:20 AM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Quickstep solfware


Can anyone help me find the web sit for Quickstep solfware The
address I have is
but I
can not get through on that address. You help would be
appreciated.
Bob B.


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Re: G-code interpreter/stepper controller

Art
 

Hi:

Take it from me, really, if theres one thing I KNOW its that 10,000 steps
a second will never be overkill. 25000 seems acceptable to most, but to
really please most, you'll need about 50,000.
( Took me a long time to get that one down... :)

Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder

 

In a message dated 11/5/2002 7:06:33 PM Central Standard Time,
toolingrus@... writes:

Some obvious negatives I can think of: Slow speed (?), piston seal leakage,
temperature may change volume of fluid (?). Just thinking out loud but I'd
like to hear what others think.
Key word here is "SOME..."! Just imagine how many negatives if you include
the ones you CAN'T think of! Unless the hydraulic concept would provide a
FORCE somehow unattainable elsewise, and you NEEDED that force, or the like,
or, perhaps you live in a land where "cleaning goop off everything every hour
or so is delightful", Steppers or Servo would be the way to go!


Re: tkemc for win32 platform

kdoney_63021
 

You can try
ftp://ftp.isd.mel.nist.gov/pub/emc/emcsoft/emc-1.1-17/


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Shelbyville Design & Signworks"
<signworks@m...> wrote:
after many trials and tribulations, I now have emc running somewhat
reliably on my 8'x12' gantry router.
On to phase 2, running emc remotely. Unfortunately, the NIST
website no longer has any of the EMC stuff
on it. Did anyone download the TkEMC file for win32 from the
website?

Erie Patsellis
Shelbyville Design & Signworks
1309 W. S. 7th Street
Shelbyville, IL 62565
(217)774-4444
visit our website at www.shelbyvilledesign.com



Re: Stepper motor speeds

 

In a message dated 11/5/2002 8:37:04 PM Central Standard Time,
jj5412@... writes:

Incidentally, I used the machine to mill it's own driver boards. I think
that's cool.
Yes! Chicken or egg? How possible? You use some "temporary" drivers,
first?


Re: tkemc for win32 platform

Les Watts
 

Great to hear you have the gantry machine working with EMC.
The software has high enough performance to work well with
the high speeds and accelerations of large gantries.

Right now I am not making much sawdust as I am in the middle
of a commercial optical encoder design project. The prototypes will be
cnc machined using EMC though! When that is done in a few weeks
back to carved signs. People love 'em!

I just run windows stuff in the office and linux in the shop. I have
been using sneakernet (floppies) for g-code files but that is
getting to be a chore... last sign job was about 6 megabytes
of g-code. Burning cdrs is too slow.I need to install wired or wireless
networking soon and I hope the rtlinux behaves when I plug
that network card in.

Les

Leslie Watts
L M Watts Furniture
Tiger, Georgia USA

engineering page:


Conversational CNC

 

Would someone on the list that has used AutoEdit CNC tell me if that is a
conversational CNC program.
Or would someone care to download it and check it out with the same question.

It has a series of windows that you fill in the parameters and it
automatically writes the G code, also has simulate. This code then can be
saved and I believe ran.

Is this what conversational CNC is?????????? Or is it just a code
editor???????

thanks,
bill


Re: sherline table top machines

 

Larry,

All my use is basically hobby oriented although I an now making some short
run items for my own sideline business. I started with a Sherline lathe and
mill years ago and used them as manual machines. Very handy and within their
work envelope a very solid machine. I then converted the mill to CNC and the
bug bit me. I sold the Sherlines to get a Shoptask for the larger capacity
and it also became CNC. Decided I wanted a real mill and got Bridgett my
Bport series II that was NC from the factory and came to me with a dead
drives. I refurbished with EMC and Gecko G320s. Well, even with this heavy
iron that I just love I really missed the little Sherlines. Saw an auction
on e-bay for a Sherline mill and lathe where the seller was local and now I
again have some Sherlines in my shop. Both have been converted to CNC. I
should point out that I have recently become a Sherline dealer so I am now a
little biased. I made the decision to become a dealer after I got the new
setup.

I have no experience with Taig mills but did have one of their lathes.
Compared to the Sherline the Taig lathe is a toy. I have been told that the
mill is much better. I do know that some people replace the Taig mill
spindle motor with a Sherline spindle motor for the variable speed .

Main thing on the Sherline equipment is to remember the capacity of the
equipment and stick within those limits. If you do you will find that they
are real tools and do some great work.

Tim
[Denver, CO]
Sherline products at Deep Discount
www.KTMarketing.com

----- Original Message -----

I am intrested in coments reguarding the sherline line of equipment.
I owned a jobshop machine shop 20 years ago. I had some pretty nice
equipment at that time and learned to appreciate GOOD tools. I am now
considering doing some work on small scale projects, and am in need of
setting up a new shop. I have looked at the sherline line and to me
it looks toy like. However looks can be very deciving.

I would appreciate any coments reguarding that line, also i would like
to know what other equipment is out there these days. I also was
looking at a line called TAIG mills any thoughts on this equipment line ?

i am absolutly intrested in setting things up with CNC operatons. The
CNC was just a dream in the days of my shop way beyond anything that
could have been afforded by a small shop. so this is going to be a new
learning period for me, but i am determined to go this way

Larry Seguine

Alaska Tool And Die
aka Far North Creations



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sherline table top machines

 

I am intrested in coments reguarding the sherline line of equipment.
I owned a jobshop machine shop 20 years ago. I had some pretty nice
equipment at that time and learned to appreciate GOOD tools. I am now
considering doing some work on small scale projects, and am in need of
setting up a new shop. I have looked at the sherline line and to me
it looks toy like. However looks can be very deciving.

I would appreciate any coments reguarding that line, also i would like
to know what other equipment is out there these days. I also was
looking at a line called TAIG mills any thoughts on this equipment line ?

i am absolutly intrested in setting things up with CNC operatons. The
CNC was just a dream in the days of my shop way beyond anything that
could have been afforded by a small shop. so this is going to be a new
learning period for me, but i am determined to go this way

Larry Seguine

Alaska Tool And Die
aka Far North Creations


another driver board and other stuff

rekmac
 

Here are some useful boards.
Richard


Re: G-code interpreter/stepper controller

Luc Vercruysse
 

On most CNC machines there are 2 switches on each side of the axis. One is a
limitswitch , the other one is a security switch.
The limitswitch can be handled within software. Once a switch is hit, the
motor decelerates and stops in a normal way (the same as you hit the stop
button).
The security switch disables all drivers and must be " hard wired ".

very good specs. Is the system based on some microcontroller ? Is the
interpreter running on the host computer ?
Is software based on EMC ?

Luc

----- Original Message -----
From: "bschwand" <bschwand@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:30 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] G-code interpreter/stepper controller


Hi everybody,

I am in the finishing/debugging stages of a 3 axis stepper controller/
G-Code interpreter.

The missing part is how to handle endswitches.

My assumption is that hitting an endswitch is a catastrophic failure,
and it should never happen; therefore I was going to have the
controller freeze all movements, signal the error (a big red LED) and
let the operator shutdown the system, manually back off the tools,
etc. and restart.

I think that trying to have the tool be "smart" and back off the tool
itself, etc. could possibly lead to damaging the machine and or part
being machined.

Does this make sense ? What is usually done, or expected in such a
case ?

Please let me know what you think is the best way to handle
endswitches, and if you have experience with other systems or
software, let me know how it is done.

BTW, this system has the following features:

- communicates with the host computer through a serial RS232 port
(the host could be a palm pilot :-) ), use of hardware (RTS/CTS)
flow control to ensure dataflow integrity.
- embedded basic G-Code interpreter that supports linear and
circular interpolation in all axis
- extensible to up to 8 axis (through an extension board, to be
designed)
- automatically goes to low-current (holding) setting for a given axis
if that axis has not been active for 100 milliseconds
- active current control through integrated chipset, thus very little
wasted power. Running and holding current are configurable through
separate potentiometer, up to 3 amp per axis (although I have not
tested this much power lacking the needed power supply...)
- each axis can be configured as to what the positive or negative
direction is (to accomodate for different machine configuration)
- configurable "rapid transverse speed" (G00 code)
- configuration settings are saved in permanent memory (eeprom) so
they remain between shutdown/reset.
- up to 10'000 steps per seconds (is this overkill ? my steppers stall
after 900 steps/sec...)

Currently supports unipolar steppers, in full-stepping mode. A bipolar
stepper power board will come next.

All feedback much appreciated, thank you.

bruno


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tkemc for win32 platform

Shelbyville Design & Signworks
 

after many trials and tribulations, I now have emc running somewhat reliably on my 8'x12' gantry router.
On to phase 2, running emc remotely. Unfortunately, the NIST website no longer has any of the EMC stuff
on it. Did anyone download the TkEMC file for win32 from the website?

Erie Patsellis
Shelbyville Design & Signworks
1309 W. S. 7th Street
Shelbyville, IL 62565
(217)774-4444
visit our website at www.shelbyvilledesign.com


Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder

alex
 

Just want to address a cost issue: small power pack from
Princess - Auto -approx. $700 Canadian - $450 US.
Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Vance <ccq@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] replacing feed screw with a hydraulic
cylinder


On Tue Nov 5 09:53:55 2002, Jon Elson, <elson@...> wrote:

al5502 wrote:

Did somebody try to get rid of the feed screw all together
and replace it with a hydraulic cylinder?
At the first glance it may present several advantages:
no backlash, big force at low cost.

We go through this every 6 months or so. It looks neat at first glance,
and if you
have lots of hydraulic gear around, might even be affordable.
Proportional (Moog)
valves are REALLY expensive, like $3000 and up! The hydraulic pumps are
expensive,
massively power-hungry, and LOUD! The hazards of a hydraulic leak at
3000 PSI
are very serious. You get oil injected under the skin, and it poisons
you. A flexible
line blowing off can also be dangerous. If there is any air in the
system, it tends to
go crazy with oscillation. The performance can be iffy, too, with
jitter and stick-slip
friction.

I think if you add up all the parts costs, even surplus, you could go
out and buy a complete
ballscrew retrofit and servo drives new!

Jon
All too true, but here's a question:

From the accuracy/resolution standpoint, what about slapping an encoder
and
ballscrew/acme thread/timing chain onto a hydraulic motor, and as a way to
ditch some of the more complicated servo power supply/amplifier/control
issues?
looks do-able, at least at first glance.

Bill

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Christ
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Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder

 

On Tue Nov 5 09:53:55 2002, Jon Elson, <elson@...> wrote:

al5502 wrote:

Did somebody try to get rid of the feed screw all together
and replace it with a hydraulic cylinder?
At the first glance it may present several advantages:
no backlash, big force at low cost.

We go through this every 6 months or so. It looks neat at first glance,
and if you
have lots of hydraulic gear around, might even be affordable.
Proportional (Moog)
valves are REALLY expensive, like $3000 and up! The hydraulic pumps are
expensive,
massively power-hungry, and LOUD! The hazards of a hydraulic leak at
3000 PSI
are very serious. You get oil injected under the skin, and it poisons
you. A flexible
line blowing off can also be dangerous. If there is any air in the
system, it tends to
go crazy with oscillation. The performance can be iffy, too, with
jitter and stick-slip
friction.

I think if you add up all the parts costs, even surplus, you could go
out and buy a complete
ballscrew retrofit and servo drives new!

Jon
All too true, but here's a question:

From the accuracy/resolution standpoint, what about slapping an encoder and
ballscrew/acme thread/timing chain onto a hydraulic motor, and as a way to
ditch some of the more complicated servo power supply/amplifier/control issues?
looks do-able, at least at first glance.

Bill

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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
RKBA! Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! 4-19!
----------------+----------+--------------------------+---------------------
An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
----------------+----------+--------------------------+---------------------

Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!

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