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Re: Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

Doug Fortune
 

Doug Fortune wrote:

mnels@... wrote:

Any opinions on Step/Direction CNC parallel port
software for a mini-mill?
Some of the choices are:

compucutters@... in England, sells combo HW&SW
Lots of guys have been emailing me for their webpage, here it is:


Interesting reading, including turbine blades, wood clock gears,
spark eroding (EDM over here!), and pcb milling.

- Doug


Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

Doug Fortune
 

mnels@... wrote:

Any opinions on cheap (< $200?) Step/Direction CNC parallel port
software for a mini-mill? Some of the choices are:

MaxNC's Software ($125 std & $225 deluxe)
P/N 20605......Step & Direction version...$ 225.00

Looks a bit like MaxNC's software


Supercam ($200 upgrade with a Micromill)
SuperCam

Yeager CNC Pro ($175 std or $125 "lite")
Yeager automation

DeskNC ($60 from Camtronics)


DANCAM
Ron Ginger's <in development> software

2.5 D with some 3D sweeping
dos 2.5D cnc for steppers
dos step & direction software

compucutters@... in England, sells combo HW&SW

Nist's free Linux/EMC
LinuxEMC NIST


and can I put a plug in for Kelly's Kcam (free graphical W95/98 software).
I think its great and getting better every week. Kelly also does a good job
incorporating suggestions into his software.


Also check here, as he sells quite a few packages at a discount:



Doug


NAMES 2000 PICS

daveland@nni.com
 

Everyone

I just got back from NAMES in Micigan. I had the NIST
Hexapod Running EMC. It was a great weekend and I met a
bunch of great guys.

Check out the pictures at:



dave


Re: Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

Charles Gallo
 

Thanks, I try

At 06:57 PM 2000-05-01 -0500, you wrote:
Charles
Great site with great links.
Larry


Re: Help: CNC mini-mill comparison

MIADSGNS@aol.com
 

Mike,

I have a Sherline retrofitted for 3 axis CNC with some powerful motors. For
the kind of stuff I do, I am quite happy with it.

Mario


Re: Help: CNC mini-mill comparison

 

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@..., mnels@p... wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I'd really appreciate
any advice on a CNC mini-mill purchase. I primarily want the mill
for machining plastics, PCB drilling/machining and some light metal
machining. Some of the plastic work will be for semi-production
use
(so speed is important). The three obvious choices are:

The MaxNC mills... probably the 10-2. It's the cheapest turn-key
solution but I've not heard good things about the mill or the
company. I've heard the spindle/motor mount has problems and the
motor speed and CNC control electronics are very substandard. The
rest of the mill looks pretty solid.

A Sherline 5400 retrofit (probably Progressive Logic or do it
myself). The wide variety of accessories for the Sherlines are
great
but the mill itself seems less rigid and durable than the others?
Another downside is a low 2800 rpm max spindle speed. This mill
also
has only a 2.25" throat depth.

The Taig Micromill. Using the MicroProto CNC package, it seems to
be
the fastest (30 in/min rated and they claim up to 60 in/min). It
weighs over twice as much as the Sherline and is supposedly much
more
rigid. The CNC version has a max spindle speed of 8500 rpm which
is
better suited to our needs. It has a 3 5/8" throat which is a big
improvement over the Sherline. It also has 1/2" leadscrews versus
1/4" on the Sherline.

Does anyone have anything to add to the above? Specifically, does
anyone have anything bad to say about the Taig Micromill?

Thanks!

Mike
I had a sherline mill retrofited to cnc,if you get the delux
ones,it should come with a headstock spacer,that would give you 3.5"
throat.The biggest problem with sherline is not wheigt but the
leadscrews are so small that you'll need to adjust the backlash very
offen,I use to cut aluminum at 8"/min and a depht of 0.050" each pass
using a 2 flute Hss and mill.It will do just fine cutting plastics.
Trying to do better,I've sold the sherline and bought a Grizzly
minimill,and I'm working to retrofit it to cnc (allover again)but
this time I'm going to use ballscrews and bigger motors.
I've found that the grizzly is much more rigid than all others
minimills.
if you want a benchtop cnc mill to do shortruns on aluminum,you
better of buying a heavier machine.
well, good luck!


Re: Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

 

Yes, I have been running EMC on Linux for almost 1 year now. While I am not
up to the task, you certainly can customize it if you have the skills. Ray
Henry has done a real nice back plot routine that lets you see the tool
paths.

Tim
[Denver, CO]

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:mnels@...]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 5:34 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software


At 03:43 PM 5/1/00 -0600, you wrote:
If you are at all computer savvy and don't mind learning a little Linux I
would suggest you take a look at EMC. Start with www.linuxcnc.org

It certainly qualifies from your price requirement (free) and supports
steppers or servos.

Tim
[Denver, CO]
Tim,

Thanks for the feedback. The linux world is tempting, but the learning
curve on all this is steep enough without throwing a new operating system
into the mix. Perhaps I can get started with some cheap/free DOS based
software and graduate to the open linux stuff later?

Do you run the EMC software? I assume it's open source so if
you're savvy
you can customize it?

Thanks again,

Mike


Re: help: CNC mini-mill comparison

Mike
 

At 07:47 PM 5/1/00 -0400, you wrote:
Mike -

How are you going to generate your code, are the parts you want to make
simple basically 2D or could they be more complex 3D ?
The parts planned will all be 2D or 2.5D but the software would hopefully control the cutter depth on the Z-axis (i.e. milling versus drilling through the part). There would NOT be any complex 3D contouring, etc.

Mike


Re: Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

Larry Ruebush
 

Charles
Great site with great links.
Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Gallo" <Charlie@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software


It's a bit buggy (but getting better) - there's stepster, and you can't
beat the price - free
Check my web site






At 09:00 PM 2000-05-01 +0000, you wrote:
Any opinions on cheap (< $200?) Step/Direction CNC parallel port
software for a mini-mill? Some of the choices are:

MaxNC's Software ($125 std & $225 deluxe)

Supercam ($200 upgrade with a Micromill)

Yeager CNC Pro ($175 std or $125 "lite")

DeskNC ($60 from Camtronics)

DANCAM

Others?




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Re: Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

Charles Gallo
 

It's a bit buggy (but getting better) - there's stepster, and you can't beat the price - free
Check my web site

At 09:00 PM 2000-05-01 +0000, you wrote:
Any opinions on cheap (< $200?) Step/Direction CNC parallel port
software for a mini-mill? Some of the choices are:

MaxNC's Software ($125 std & $225 deluxe)

Supercam ($200 upgrade with a Micromill)

Yeager CNC Pro ($175 std or $125 "lite")

DeskNC ($60 from Camtronics)

DANCAM

Others?




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Re: Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

Mike
 

At 03:43 PM 5/1/00 -0600, you wrote:
If you are at all computer savvy and don't mind learning a little Linux I
would suggest you take a look at EMC. Start with www.linuxcnc.org

It certainly qualifies from your price requirement (free) and supports
steppers or servos.

Tim
[Denver, CO]
Tim,

Thanks for the feedback. The linux world is tempting, but the learning curve on all this is steep enough without throwing a new operating system into the mix. Perhaps I can get started with some cheap/free DOS based software and graduate to the open linux stuff later?

Do you run the EMC software? I assume it's open source so if you're savvy you can customize it?

Thanks again,

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: <mnels@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 3:00 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software


Any opinions on cheap (< $200?) Step/Direction CNC parallel port
software for a mini-mill? Some of the choices are:

MaxNC's Software ($125 std & $225 deluxe)

Supercam ($200 upgrade with a Micromill)

Yeager CNC Pro ($175 std or $125 "lite")

DeskNC ($60 from Camtronics)

DANCAM

Others?


Re: Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

 

If you are at all computer savvy and don't mind learning a little Linux I
would suggest you take a look at EMC. Start with www.linuxcnc.org

It certainly qualifies from your price requirement (free) and supports
steppers or servos.

Tim
[Denver, CO]

----- Original Message -----
From: <mnels@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 3:00 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software


Any opinions on cheap (< $200?) Step/Direction CNC parallel port
software for a mini-mill? Some of the choices are:

MaxNC's Software ($125 std & $225 deluxe)

Supercam ($200 upgrade with a Micromill)

Yeager CNC Pro ($175 std or $125 "lite")

DeskNC ($60 from Camtronics)

DANCAM

Others?




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Opinions: Cheap 3-axis Software

mnels@pobox.com
 

Any opinions on cheap (< $200?) Step/Direction CNC parallel port
software for a mini-mill? Some of the choices are:

MaxNC's Software ($125 std & $225 deluxe)

Supercam ($200 upgrade with a Micromill)

Yeager CNC Pro ($175 std or $125 "lite")

DeskNC ($60 from Camtronics)

DANCAM

Others?


Re: sources for motor planetary gearheads

 

Oriental makes a line of planetary "attachments" which are direct NEMA-[size]
bolt-ons. Get their HUGE 2000-2001 catalog:
<A href=">Oriental Motor</A>

Jan Rowland, Troll


Ericsson distribution

Murray Leshner
 

Ah yes, but who stocks Ericsson? They had only two or three distribs in US,
but now with JRC/NJR, I want to investigate the old JRC/NJR distribution
chain (they had 7-8 or so).

Apparently 3776 (easiest way to drive discrete H-bridge devices) is
discontinued. 3960 I would like to find for microstepping front end, as
well.

Murray


Help: CNC mini-mill comparison

mnels@pobox.com
 

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I'd really appreciate
any advice on a CNC mini-mill purchase. I primarily want the mill
for machining plastics, PCB drilling/machining and some light metal
machining. Some of the plastic work will be for semi-production use
(so speed is important). The three obvious choices are:

The MaxNC mills... probably the 10-2. It's the cheapest turn-key
solution but I've not heard good things about the mill or the
company. I've heard the spindle/motor mount has problems and the
motor speed and CNC control electronics are very substandard. The
rest of the mill looks pretty solid.

A Sherline 5400 retrofit (probably Progressive Logic or do it
myself). The wide variety of accessories for the Sherlines are great
but the mill itself seems less rigid and durable than the others?
Another downside is a low 2800 rpm max spindle speed. This mill also
has only a 2.25" throat depth.

The Taig Micromill. Using the MicroProto CNC package, it seems to be
the fastest (30 in/min rated and they claim up to 60 in/min). It
weighs over twice as much as the Sherline and is supposedly much more
rigid. The CNC version has a max spindle speed of 8500 rpm which is
better suited to our needs. It has a 3 5/8" throat which is a big
improvement over the Sherline. It also has 1/2" leadscrews versus
1/4" on the Sherline.

Does anyone have anything to add to the above? Specifically, does
anyone have anything bad to say about the Taig Micromill?

Thanks!

Mike


help: CNC mini-mill comparison

TPrice1169@aol.com
 

Mike -

How are you going to generate your code, are the parts you want to make
simple basically 2D or could they be more complex 3D ?

tony price
sea and sea model ships


Re: sources for motor planetary gearheads

Vance Buhler
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Fortune <

I'm looking for a source of planetary reduction gears
to attach to my motors so as to increase torque and
resolution (say 5:1 to 100:1 range).


Have you tried www.wmberg,com or www.sdp-si.com both extensive sources for all kinds of motion control hardware. Not cheap in small quantities but good selection and service. SDP-SI has free catalogue/engineering manuals plus a B.C. Rep at 604 986-5953. Good luck Vance Buhler


Re: sources for motor planetary gearheads

Bob Campbell
 

Doug,

Look at www.baysidemotion.com.

Bob Campbell

----- Original Message -----
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To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:37 AM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] sources for motor planetary gearheads


I'm looking for a source of planetary reduction gears
to attach to my motors so as to increase torque and
resolution (say 5:1 to 100:1 range).

The only ones I know of are from Pittman Motors


but I'd like to find something cheaper or surplus.

Does anyone know of such a source?

Doug



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rt for mac

Ray Henry
 

RTLinux 3.0 Beta pre-release 4 released
FSMLabs releases RTLinux V3.0 beta hard realtime for 2.3 Linux
(Socorro, New Mexico - March 3, 2000)

Mac users

I found this on the

I don't have a clear picture what it means but may work to solve some of
the problems that a mac user will have with an EMC running on that platform.

FSMLabs released the fourth beta of V3.0 RTLinux[tm] today. The new version
has been completely reimplemented to run on Linux 2.3 and to facilitate
development of versions on non-x86 architectures.

RTLinux v3.0 now includes Intel x86 and PowerPC ports. The PowerPC version
has been tested and runs on various platforms (including Apple G3
portables, Apple G4, some RS/6000 CHRP systems, Synergy Microsystems VSS4
and PowerMac clones). Testing on other other PowerPC platforms is on-going.

Ray