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Re: correction on DRO/Lindsay

Russ Kepler
 

Bill, the URL on your posting on how to build your own DRO is a sex site.
www.anglefire.com/biz3/handengraving/dro.html
^^^^^^^^^-angelfire

This is a common misspelling, and some sex site took advantage
of it and registered the misspelled url.

--
Russ Kepler russ@...

Please Don't Feed the Engineers


Re: Digest Number 1 & homebrew DRO

 

Well I got the digest #1 last night (the second digest, since there was
a digest #0). Since my introduction was labeled message #1, anyone who
signed up after it was posted didn't see it (unless they signed up for
digested as well), so I included it below.

As I noted below, I'm in the process of doing my own DRO. Resolution of
the encoders is probably biggest $ consideration. In other words, the
more resolution you want the more $ you need.

US Digital can provide linear encoders that will provide resolution of
.0006". These cost around $50 bucks each, depending on length, shorter =
cheaper. The are also manufacturers that have linears with .0001"
resolution, they'll cost around $500 for an 18" version.

I got the US Digital PC interface card. It has 4 channels, so, while I'm
only using 2, one for X and one for Y, I can expand to a Z axis if
necessary. At this point I don't know what I'd do with a 4th dimension,
speed I suppose.

The actual display was cheap, that old PC that been gathering dust since
the last upgrade was free!

I wrote the software, so I can make it do what ever I want. Currently,
it displays X and Y travel as well as feed rate. It can do presets,
zeros...the usual stuff.

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:14:47 -0400
From: rmcilvaine@...
Subject: Starting point

Hi all,

I subscribed to the digested list and have not received the first
digest. Therefore I don't know what, if anything, has been discussed.

Maybe a good starting point would be for those who were at NAMES, to
tell those of us who weren't, about the conversation that
brought about
the creation of this list.

Are we going to talk about homebrew EDM/DRO?

If so I'm in the process of mounting X & Y .0001" res. encoders to my
Bridgeport. These are connected to two channels of a US Digital 4
channel encoder interface card in an old 286 PC.
I wrote the software for this card.

Are we going to talk about CAD?

I've had the dubious honor of spending the better part of the last 25
years in the CAD industry.

Are we going to talk CAM?

I started my computer career designing CAM machinery for the ancient
technology of wire wrapped digital circuit boards. We used small
computers back then, they were only 6 ft. high in a 19 inch wide rack
cabinet, with the latest storage media available...paper tape readers!

So, let the games begin!

Mac
Homebrewer and tinker by choice, Computer geek by trade.


Re: Digest Number 1

Andrew Werby
 

In a message dated 5/5/99 6:55:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbrumbelow@... writes:


Now a NAMES question: Was MAXNC -- a Home Shop Machinest advertiser
-- there? I have written with the SASE and
received no response. Thought it might be all were at NAMES . . .
I do not recall seeing them there, and they were not listed in the venders
list in the guidebook.
Bill
alb.
NM

[Um, could someone start from the beginning and tell us what NAMES is or
was? Was that a machine show? I happen to be a discount online distributor
for MAXNC, and unlike them I do respond to e-mail, so if you have a
question, or wish to order something they make, let me know. I can get you
any of their products, including their new larger MAXNC-15 mill, for 5% off
their list prices.

Since this is my first posting to this list, perhaps I should introduce
myself. My name is Andrew Werby, and I'm a sculptor who has become
fascinated by the possibilities opening up due to the CAD revolution.
Suddenly things that only people working for Fortune 500 companies could do
5 years ago are possible, and even affordable, for small businesses,
artists, and hobbyists. I've been trying out various solutions for the past
few years, and recently decided to start a business based on the tools I'd
used that worked well for me, were cost-effective, and which I could manage
to sell cheaper than anyone else.

So I'm offering several products through my online storefront at
: Rhino 3d, a powerful NURBS-based modeler
for the Windows platform, which is capable of importing 3d scans, supports
inexpensive 3d digitizing arms, is accurate and easy to use, and is also
one of the least expensive 3d modeling programs available (especially at my
discount price.) Once one makes a model in Rhino, it is exported to another
program called DeskProto, which automatically writes a toolpath based on
its geometry, which in turn is fed into the MAXNC milling machine, which
turns it into an actual part. For people looking for a heavier-duty
machine, I've recently added the CNC Junior, a mill-drill converted to work
on g-code, to my discount offerings.

So far, all I've got is a MAXNC-10 for output myself, but I've got one
of the larger and more powerful MAXNC-15 machines on order- it should
arrive in a week or so. I've also got an older 1hp Bridgeport mill with a
DRO and power feed on one axis, but I've talked myself out of trying to
convert it to CNC, (in spite of Jon Elson's encouragement to the contrary.
) While I'm very interested in CAD, CAM, and the various strategies used
to produce parts from computer files, my technical knowledge on these
subjects is not very deep- I'm hoping to use this list as one way of making
up for my deficiencies on that score. If anybody has questions about any of
the products I represent online, if I don't know the answer myself I will
make every effort to find it out.]

Andrew Werby

Andrew Werby - United Artworks
Sculpture, Jewelry, and Other Art Stuff


Re: Digest Number 1 & homebrew DRO

 

In a message dated 5/7/99 4:49:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
rmcilvaine@... writes:

I got the US Digital PC interface card. It has 4 channels, so, while I'm
only using 2, one for X and one for Y, I can expand to a Z axis if
necessary. At this point I don't know what I'd do with a 4th dimension,
speed I suppose.

A common usage for the fourth channel would be for a rotary table, or
something along that nature,
Bill


Re: correction on DRO/Lindsay

 

I just checked the Lindsay Link, and brought up his page, but there is still
a problem, and have contacted Steve about it, but did not find a sex site, I
always check the actual site before posting Links/URL's.
We will get it yet.
Bill


correction on DRO/Lindsay

 


Re: correction on DRO/Lindsay

 

also the secondary pages to lindsay's page are still messed up.
bill hinkle


Re: correction on DRO/Lindsay

 

Bill, the URL on your posting on how to build your own DRO is a sex site.
www.anglefire.com/biz3/handengraving/dro.html
bill hinkle


Intro

Jon Elson
 

Hello, all,

I have had a home shop for about 17 years, now. A friend of mine
and I bought a 1941 round-ram Bridgeport mill from a LARGE home
shop business that closed. We went after the auction or sale was
officially over, but there was still a lot of stuff. There was this little
farm house on a hill, and about 50 derelict semi-trailers parked out
back. Each trailer had about 3 machines in it, some of them looked
like the machine shop on a submarine! You can imagine a huge
horizontal mill, maybe a surface grinder, and a bandsaw, for instance,
in a 20' trailer. There were festoons of 440 V 3-phase wiring running
from trailer to trailer.

Anyway, one of the leftovers was my Bridgeport. The auction or
sale (I don't remember which) was set up by the guy who bought the
whole place out, and was getting rid of the machinery he didn't need.
He came up with a set of B&S #7 collets for the M head's spindle,
which was nice of him. There was an end mill holder frozen into the
spindle, and it took us 2 weeks of building bigger and bigger gizmos
to get it pulled loose.

A year or so later, we got a 10" Atlas babbit-bearing, change gear
lathe. The spindle bearings were in awful condition, and fixing that
is not so easy. I eventually upgraded to a quick change gearbox
and a roller-bearing headstock. Later, I moved up to the 12"
Atlas.

About 2 years ago, I saw an ad in the newspaper for a Bridgeport
J head, and bought it out of a guy's garage. It needed a lot of work,
but I have it now on my mill, and it is a big improvement.

I bought the axis drives and spindle motors from an Excellon
printed circuit board drilling machine when it was being scrapped
some years ago, but didn't get around to trying to install in on
the mill until last year. I use the EMC program from NIST
for CNC control, and I love it!

I have one of the hideous $189 4x6" bandsaws, but it is sure a
lot better than a hacksaw!

I also have a 3' Chicago finger brake, a Roper-Whitney
5-ton punch press, an AC welder and an Oxy/MAPP
torch, mostly for brazing use.

I also have a setup for making printed circuit boards.
I drill them on the NC mill. I made my own laser
photoplotter for artwork, with 1000 x 1000 dot/inch
resolution. I have an etching machine that they threw
out at work. 10 minutes and a couple dabs of epoxy
made it as good as new.

You might want to look at my web pages, which have some
pictures of this gear, at :

There's probably more, but that is about all I can think
of right now.

Jon


correction on DRO/Lindsay

 

Here is a new URL/link to S. Lindsay's DRO site.
<A href=">DRO SOFTWARE
</A>

This is site with the directions of building your own DRO
Bill


Re: What's up with the list?

 

-----Original Message-----
From: WAnliker@... [mailto:WAnliker@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 4:51 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] What's up with the list?


From: WAnliker@...

In a message dated 5/6/99 1:45:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rmcilvaine@... writes:


During signup I checked the option to receive the list digested.

This does not seem to be happening.

I've also received a copy of both of my previous post, did
anyone else
get them?

Mac
Homebrewer and tinker by choice, Computer geek by trade.
It is my understanding that the digest form goes out at
night, keep us posted
as there postings going out.
Bill,

If this is true it is really not working correctly. If I get a digest
this evening, then I'll have recieved a copy of each post when it was
posted, then a digest post with a copy of each message posted.

If this happens I'll let you know.

Regards
Mac


What's up with the list?

 

Hi all,

During signup I checked the option to receive the list digested.

This does not seem to be happening.

I've also received a copy of both of my previous post, did anyone else
get them?

Mac
Homebrewer and tinker by choice, Computer geek by trade.


Re: Hello

Brian Fairey
 

Dan, there you are, what is the URL of your web page?
Brian, Ont, Canada.

Dan Mauch wrote:

Looks like in time this will be a good site.Dan


Starting point

 

Hi all,

I subscribed to the digested list and have not received the first
digest. Therefore I don't know what, if anything, has been discussed.

Maybe a good starting point would be for those who were at NAMES, to
tell those of us who weren't, about the conversation that brought about
the creation of this list.

Are we going to talk about homebrew EDM/DRO?

If so I'm in the process of mounting X & Y .0001" res. encoders to my
Bridgeport. These are connected to two channels of a US Digital 4
channel encoder interface card in an old 286 PC.
I wrote the software for this card.

Are we going to talk about CAD?

I've had the dubious honor of spending the better part of the last 25
years in the CAD industry.

Are we going to talk CAM?

I started my computer career designing CAM machinery for the ancient
technology of wire wrapped digital circuit boards. We used small
computers back then, they were only 6 ft. high in a 19 inch wide rack
cabinet, with the latest storage media available...paper tape readers!

So, let the games begin!

Mac
Homebrewer and tinker by choice, Computer geek by trade.


Hello

Dan Mauch
 

Looks like in time this will be a good site.
Dan


Re: What's up with the list?

 

In a message dated 5/6/99 1:45:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rmcilvaine@... writes:


During signup I checked the option to receive the list digested.

This does not seem to be happening.

I've also received a copy of both of my previous post, did anyone else
get them?

Mac
Homebrewer and tinker by choice, Computer geek by trade.
It is my understanding that the digest form goes out at night, keep us posted
as there postings going out.
bill


free CAD program

 

<A href=">Free v6.5 re-release</A> I just
spotted this today, was High Dollar and now available free.

We are up to 51 listees
Bill


Re: Newbie . . .

 

In a message dated 5/5/99 6:55:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbrumbelow@... writes:


Now a NAMES question: Was MAXNC -- a Home Shop Machinest advertiser
-- there? I have written with the SASE and
received no response. Thought it might be all were at NAMES . . .
I do not recall seeing them there, and they were not listed in the venders
list in the guidebook.
Bill
alb.
NM


Re: Hello

 

In a message dated 5/6/99 11:13:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dmauch@... writes:


Looks like in time this will be a good site.
Dan
Dan, I sure hope so, I got tired of being by myself in the hunt for
information. Found a lot but is sometimes hard to tie it all together.
While at NAMES I attended a meeting on CAD/CAM, and later one on Wire/EDM.
It was then that I got the idea to see if I could get names from the people
there that would be interested in a list such as this. I felt that the
interest was great enough so that I started it. I added the DRO as it fell
right in line with the other topics of interest to the list. I am hoping you
as well as others will add to the list.
To the rest of the Listees, this is Dan of Camtronics,
<A href=">Home Page</A>
, Dan sells a nice line of drivers for
steppers, look and see for yourself. I have just built his 3 axis 5 amp
board.
Let the good time roll.
bill


Hello Everyone

 

Hello to all, we are off to a start. We currently have 48 listees. Hope too
have all 48 posting to help the rest of us.
A few observations comments might be in order:
To reply, hit reply, and go from there.
To send new mail, use the list name, I would suggest that you put it in your
address book.
There were several postings on 5/5/99, if you did not receive them check on
ONELIST they are there and can be read there.
When the list is signed up in the digest form you will get all of the days
postings sometime that night, I have no idea when this will occur.
If you have any problems let me know and I will try to straighten them out
for you.
I feel that all attachments/binary's should be sent directly to those
requesting them, rather than the whole list. This seems to be the best way
for most people.
I will not release anyone's name unless requested to by that person. However
note that your name and e-mail shows on the header depending how your system
is set up.
Now on to the good part. I would hope that people on this list would express
there area of interest of the four items covered in the list, whether you are
building or buying. Also of interest would be results of your work, sources,
companies, URL's links. Almost anything you are doing in the above topics is
subject to posting.
It would be nice if we could get comments on what we expect from the list,
and also what we can offer to the list.
I am not restricting to the above inputs only. Give us all what you can.
So guys, please get the fingers to walking, looking forward to lots of good
stuff.
Bill