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Re: Remote Focuser for C14

 

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Thanks Donald,
I’ve heard of ASCOM and FocusMax. ?Are they PC/Windows only or do they also run on Linux?

Rick

On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:50 08AM, donald_clement@... [C14_EdgeHD] <C14_EdgeHD@...> wrote:

If you make your focuser software?interface ASCOM compliant then you could use an autofocus software i.e. FocusMax?????to do autofocusing.



Re: Digest Number 3526

 

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I’m debating whether I should look at one star, using FWHM or Half Flux Diameter or a similar measure, or whether there is a way to have the software look at a larger subset of the whole image. ?If I use a Raspberry Pi I don’t have a whole lot of processor power. ?It will be a good software challenge for me. ?Wavelet analysis might be faster than FFT and give good results. ?Wolfram and Mathematica are installed on the Pi. ?Jpeg file size is another possibility, as it might measure how much entropy is in the image.

Rick

On Sep 9, 2015, at 12:47 51AM, Charles Lasnier clasnie1@... [C14_EdgeHD] <C14_EdgeHD@...> wrote:

Rick,

? ?Maybe you could look for spatial frequencies, e.g. do a spatial Fourier transform and find a spatial frequency peak that corresponds to stars. That would be pretty processor intensive.
JPEG files are already encoded as Discrete Cosine Transform. You may be able to get spatial frequencies by examining the file. (Possibly helpful article here: <>) The JPEG will only give you spatial frequencies over 8x8 pixel blocks but that may be sufficient.

-Charlie Lasnier


On Sep 7, 2015, at 2:16 AM,?C14_EdgeHD@...?wrote:


Re: Remote Focuser for C14

 

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Re: Remote Focuser for C14

 

If you make your focuser software?interface ASCOM compliant then you could use an autofocus software i.e. FocusMax? ???to do autofocusing.


Re: Digest Number 3526

 

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Rick,
? ?Maybe you could look for spatial frequencies, e.g. do a spatial Fourier transform and find a spatial frequency peak that corresponds to stars. That would be pretty processor intensive.
JPEG files are already encoded as Discrete Cosine Transform. You may be able to get spatial frequencies by examining the file. (Possibly helpful article here: <>) The JPEG will only give you spatial frequencies over 8x8 pixel blocks but that may be sufficient.

-Charlie Lasnier


On Sep 7, 2015, at 2:16 AM, C14_EdgeHD@... wrote:

Remote Focuser for C14

Sun Sep?6,?2015 1:43?pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"yahoogroups@..." rick.thurmond

A while ago I got a HyperStar for my C14, which converts it to f/2 using the primary mirror and some optics. It replaces the secondary mirror. I use it with my Nikon D600 SLR with great results.

I needed a way to focus while looking at the camera, but all the motorized focusers I could find were way out of my budget, so I decided to design my own. It uses an Arduino to control everything, running software I wrote. A stepper motor drives the focus knob, and I have a hand controller with a rotary knob and display. The Arduino is in its own box attached to the pier, so that motion of the telescope doesn’t drag the hand controller around. I designed the plastic parts and had them 3D printed, the rest of the parts came from Adafruit.

If anyone is interested, I’d be happy to share the design.

Now the question is, how to determine when the focus is optimal. I can drive the Nikon using gphoto on a raspberry pi (I’d rather not take a laptop out to the telescope but if I have to, I will use a MacBook). With that software I can capture jpg or nef files onto the raspberry pi. Can anyone suggest software that can read a jpg and either do fwhm or some other measure of sharpness? I’d really like it to report sharpness of the whole photo as a single number.

Rick


Re: Digest Number 3526

 

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I’ve started a page on my website at?
Not very complete yet, but keep checking back. ?I’ll put the mechanical, electrical, and software there over time.

Thanks for your interest!

Rick

On Sep 7, 2015, at 2:33 10AM, Alexei Pace <alexei.pace@...> wrote:

Dear Mr Thurmond,
I would be very interested in seeing more details of your self built focuser for Hyperstar!
I too have a C14 with Hyperstar which I have just bought to use with my DSLR (6D).
Best regards,
Alexei Pace
Malta




Remote Focuser for C14

 

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A while ago I got a HyperStar for my C14, which converts it to f/2 using the primary mirror and some optics. ?It replaces the secondary mirror. ?I use it with my Nikon D600 SLR with great results.

I needed a way to focus while looking at the camera, but all the motorized focusers I could find were way out of my budget, so I decided to design my own. ?It uses an Arduino to control everything, running software I wrote. ?A stepper motor drives the focus knob, and I have a hand controller with a rotary knob and display. ?The Arduino is in its own box attached to the pier, so that motion of the telescope doesn’t drag the hand controller around. ?I designed the plastic parts and had them 3D printed, the rest of the parts came from Adafruit.

If anyone is interested, I’d be happy to share the design.

Now the question is, how to determine when the focus is optimal. ?I can drive the Nikon using gphoto on a raspberry pi (I’d rather not take a laptop out to the telescope but if I have to, I will use a MacBook). ?With that software I can capture jpg or nef files onto the raspberry pi. ?Can anyone suggest software that can read a jpg and either do fwhm or some other measure of sharpness? ?I’d really like it to report sharpness of the whole photo as a single number.

Rick


Re: NGC 6188 Nebula

 

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Wonderful detail Dale!
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Clear skies,
Kevin Dixon
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Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 4:34 AM
Subject: [C14_EdgeHD] NGC 6188 Nebula
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Despite not thinking it worth processing after stacking, it surprised me with the detail.


Dale


NGC 6188 Nebula

 

Despite not thinking it worth processing after stacking, it surprised me with the detail.


Dale


Re: M16 with C-14

 

Very impressive.

I visited the website

This looks like more than just a C14 and a CCD camera. It looks like the image also put an image intensifying camera in the imaging train in front of the CCD camera.


The system?relies on?very short exposures and long focal length or narrowband imaging where you can get a photo flux low enough to fit within a range where the image intensifying camera works in an individual photon counting domain. One strong benefit to this approach is that the individual exposures are short like we do for planetary imaging. Therefore, you can capture at the resolution of the telescope with minimal atmospheric blurring by selecting good frames. 5.5 hours of imaging adds up to high SNR and high resolution.


I have a few questions.

1. What focal length did you use for the image of M16?

2. How can you register individual frames with an SNR like the single frame shown for M57? The edges don't look?adequately defined.

3. How would a series of 5 second CCD?exposures (selected and?averaged for 5.5 hours) look compared with the intensified system at exposures of 200 ms. I ask because the SNR of a CCD looks as good as the intensified system when using exposures about?10 times longer than the photon counting exposure length.

4. I sense a possible product here.?Are you planning to produce systems for sale?


Andrew?




Re: M16 with C-14

 

maybe the best M16 I have seen.

-- benoit

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Thomas Ashcraft ashcraft@... [C14_EdgeHD] <C14_EdgeHD@...> wrote:
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Truly stunning!? Congrats.? -?? Thomas in New Mexico




Re: M16 with C-14

 

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Truly stunning! Congrats. - Thomas in New Mexico


Re: M16 with C-14

 

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Inspiring to see what a C14 is capable of.
Rick

On Aug 15, 2015, at 2:28 19PM, stan_ccd@... [C14_EdgeHD] <C14_EdgeHD@...> wrote:



Re: focus inside tube

 

Not sure if the C14_Edge is the same as the old C14 that used a sliding tube moving mirror focuser with a single lead screw on one lobe of a three lobed bracket for focus position. It appears that the Edge uses the same sliding tube ?moving mirror focuser with the addition of mirror locks on the two other lobes that have to be locked each time focused to prevent mirror flop. ?I believe this makes it impossible to have autofocus without mirror flop using the moving mirror focuser. Not good in Hyperstar mode which is only focused using the moving mirror focuser. The original C10 used a three lead screw arrangement for focusing. ?I have a Max Bray Mak-Cass that used the left over C10 10" primaries which were blanchard ground down to 9.5" after production stopped on the C10.


---In C14_EdgeHD@..., <garyjarrette@...> wrote :

I hate to show my ignorance but I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "come to focus inside the tube".

As far as the two knobs goes though if it is an Edge then the two knobs are mirror locks.? You would loosen them,? focus,? then snuggle them up again.? This must be done every time you focus if you are using g the stock screw focuser.

Gary

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Re: M16 with C-14

 

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Thanks for the feed back.

Very interesting :-)

Christian

Le 16/08/2015 16:37, stan_ccd@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

"wondering if you had tries the new ASI224 camera ?"


I used one last night for the 1st time.

It really looks like read noise is <1e-?and it?approaches the EMCCD/ICCD experience.

The notorious CMOS banding is still present but very muted.

It is a?very fine camera!


Stan



Re: M16 with C-14

 

"wondering if you had tries the new ASI224 camera ?"


I used one last night for the 1st time.

It really looks like read noise is <1e-?and it?approaches the EMCCD/ICCD experience.

The notorious CMOS banding is still present but very muted.

It is a?very fine camera!


Stan


Re: M16 with C-14

 

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Wonderful resolution Stan !

I was wondering if you had tries the new ASI224 camera ? It is doing wonder for Uranus and Neptune imaging. The read noise of the IMX224 sensor is only 1 e-, which is equivalent to EMCCD camera.

Best regards

Christian


Le 15/08/2015 21:28, stan_ccd@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

http://www.stanmooreastro.com/images/M16hsm2015.JPG

C-14

10nm H-a filter

EMCCD exp = 200ms x 86k (out of 100k)


Stan



Re: Images of the moon taken on August 7 with the C14 (part 1)

 

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Thanks Stan,

Usually, I cool down the optical tube with the two attached fans :


This time that was not necessary, there was no difference between the mirror temperature and the ambient temperature.

I used an ADC (Atmospheric Dispersion Corrector) because at the beginning of the session the moon was rather low (about 35°). So even the red filter, I had to correct for atmospheric dispersion.

Of course, I tested and tuned a little bit the collimation.

Best regards


Christian

Le 15/08/2015 21:54, stan_ccd@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

fantastic!

Obviously that is a good site.

Do?you have any tips for C-14 hi-res? (e.g. cooling)


Stan



Re: Images of the moon taken on August 7 with the C14 (part 1)

 

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Thanks Lee :-)

Le 15/08/2015 21:41, Lee Gordon jleegordon@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

Yes, Christian, this is absolutely inspiring work.
Thank you for sharing it!

Can't wait to set up a Hyperstar with my new C14 EdgeHD.
Currently using a humble iPhone 6.

Best wishes!

Lee


On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:29 AM, viladrich christian christian.viladrich@... [C14_EdgeHD] <C14_EdgeHD@...> wrote:
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Thanks Kevin :-)

Le 15/08/2015 12:58, 'Kevin' ksbtk@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:
Absolutely amazing images Christian.? I feel like I was in orbit around the moon thanks to the resolution and detail in your images.? Well done!
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Clear skies,
Kevin Dixon
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Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:12 AM
Subject: [C14_EdgeHD] Images of the moon taken on August 7 with the C14 (part 1)
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Dear All,

Please find a first set of images of the moon taken last August, 7 with the Celestron 14, Basler 1920-155 camera, Astrophysics X2 Barlow lens and a red filter.

Let's start with the classics :

Clavius :


Tycho :


Maginus :


Deslandres :


Straight wall :


The nice riles of Flammarion and Oppolzer :


The area around Bode with a lot of cracks and riles :


And the nice Philolaus crater :


More information is given there :


And more to follow ...

Best regards

Christian





Re: Images of the moon taken on August 7 with the C14 (part 1)

 

fantastic!

Obviously that is a good site.

Do?you have any tips for C-14 hi-res? (e.g. cooling)


Stan