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Looking for an off axis guider recommendation

 

I have a CGE1400 and am interested in purchasing an off axis guider.? I have an Orion Starshoot and a Canon T3i.? What would be the recommended OAG for my setup?? Thanks in advance!

Mike



Re: C14 edge vs regular C-14 for Jupiter

 

"Any warranty would be void "

That ship has obviously already sailed...


Re: C14 edge vs regular C-14 for Jupiter

 

I would never expect Celestron to be happy about being sent a mount in pieces.? Any warranty would be void and they could charge you additional fees since it is more difficult to determine what the problem is if the?mount?is in pieces.? I get mounts in piece occasionally,?but it is usually from someone who had trouble performing a DIY?HyperTune so that I have a good idea what is going on to start with.? Getting a mount out of the blue that has been taken apart and in which I have no idea what the problem is from the start would certainly not make my day and could likely cost more if additional time is needed to diagnose a problem that can no longer be investigated with the mount in pieces.

Unless you are very confident?that you can get things back?to the state (working or not) the mount was in before you take it apart, then I don't recommend trying to do it yourself.? You could be wasting both time and money by doing that.


Ed Thomas

Deep Space Products

www.deepspaceproducts.com?


Re: CGE Pro R. A. Gears Stripped

 

Unless you just want to send it to Celestron for repair rught away then you will?have to disassemble it to see what is actually wrong.? You may be right.? I don't know about Celestron but many Meade mounts use nylon/plastic gears?that could easily be striped (or stripped?).? But also fairly easy to replace unless there is significant "pre-loading".? If the gears are brass,?the worm?may have?dislodged from the shaft, etc.

I doubt that you have anything to lose by taking it apart.? If you can't fix it then ship all the parts off for repair (you may have saved them a little time <g>)


Stan


Re: CGE Pro R. A. Gears Stripped

 

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No I am not sure about it at all.? I just heard the grinding noise, and the mount will not slew in RA at all now.? The clutch seems okay, and I assumed the gears were stripped.?
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Many thanks for this valuable advise!!
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Fran
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 9:18 AM
Subject: [C14_EdgeHD] Re: CGE Pro R. A. Gears Stripped
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Are you sure about this?? "Accident" would hardly be the word for what it would take to strip any of the gears in the mount, worm/wheel or spurs.? If you have not been inside the mount to check, then it would be far more likely that you knocked the RA worm carrier out of alignment rather than even damaging the gears.

If by some chance you did manage to at least damage the worm or wheel, replacements are available from Aeroquest Machining and I have installed a number of these as upgrades.? However, the CGE Pro is a very difficult mount to work on and requires a variety of tools that most people do not have laying around.? In addition, there are substantial amounts of permanent thread lock used throughout the mount that make taking it apart exceedingly difficult.? I work on mounts all the time and the CGE Pro is the mount I dread the most.? This is not intended to be an ad for my services.? I'm just telling it like it is.

Ed Thomas

Deep Space Products


Re: CGE Pro R. A. Gears Stripped

 

Are you sure about this?? "Accident" would hardly be the word for what it would take to strip any of the gears in the mount, worm/wheel or spurs.? If you have not been inside the mount to check, then it would be far more likely that you knocked the RA worm carrier out of alignment rather than even damaging the gears.

If by some chance you did manage to at least damage the worm or wheel, replacements are available from Aeroquest Machining and I have installed a number of these as upgrades.? However, the CGE Pro is a very difficult mount to work on and requires a variety of tools that most people do not have laying around.? In addition, there are substantial amounts of permanent thread lock used throughout the mount that make taking it apart exceedingly difficult.? I work on mounts all the time and the CGE Pro is the mount I dread the most.? This is not intended to be an ad for my services.? I'm just telling it like it is.

Ed Thomas

Deep Space Products


CGE Pro R. A. Gears Stripped

 

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I had an accident last night, and stripped my CGE Pro R. A.? gears.? I am thinking of doing the repair myself, and am wondering if any of you have done this repair.? If yes, where did you get the replacement gears?
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Fran


Re: C14 edge vs regular C-14 for Jupiter

 

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Thomas,
? This is it, you found it. It was formerly called the C14 list but was broadened to include the Edge scopes.
-Charlie Lasnier


C14 edge vs regular C-14 for Jupiter ?

Tue Aug?5,?2014 10:19?am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Thomas Ashcraft" heliotown27

Also, is there a regular C-14 yahoo group? I could not fine one listed.

Thanks in advance.

Thomas


Re: Two last images taken on July 18

 

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Thanks Stan :-)

Yes, I have two 80 mm diameter fans on the C14. It does make a difference.

I also added two support screws on the primary mirror support to improve the steadiness of the collimation.

Hope this helps

Christian

Le 05/08/2014 16:26, stan_ccd@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

Very fine!

Do you have any advice for hi-res imaging?
(e.g. do you cool or vent the OTA?)

Stan


Re: C14 edge vs regular C-14 for Jupiter ?

 

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Hi Thomas,

Here is a comparison of the C14 and C14 Edge-HD based on the theoretical optical performances :



Basically, the on-axis performances are equivalent.

On a practical side, given the larger diffraction limited field on the C14 Edge-HD (and improved mechanical support) the collimation is more stable on the Edge-HD version. But this is not a big deal to check it out on the classic version.

If I had to buy a new C14, I would go now for the Edge-HD version.

Best regards

Christian

Le 06/08/2014 09:06, ap@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

Thomas the general agreement is that the Edge poses no particular advantage over the 'traditional' C14 in that planets are viewed at the centre ie. not at the edge of the field.

Having said that I got an Edge 14 myself due to very good reviews and supposedly higher quality control on these models.

Regards and good luck with the shipping of this (large) telescope!


Re: C14 edge vs regular C-14 for Jupiter ?

 

Thomas the general agreement is that the Edge poses no particular advantage over the 'traditional' C14 in that planets are viewed at the centre ie. not at the edge of the field.

Having said that I got an Edge 14 myself due to very good reviews and supposedly higher quality control on these models.

Regards and good luck with the shipping of this (large) telescope!


C14 edge vs regular C-14 for Jupiter ?

 

I see that the Edge version of the C14 is currently at the same retail price as the regular C14.

My primary observing interest is Jupiter. Which C14 would be a better choice for Jupiter?

Also, is there a regular C-14 yahoo group? I could not fine one listed.

Thanks in advance.

Thomas


Re: Two last images taken on July 18

 

Very fine!

Do you have any advice for hi-res imaging?
(e.g. do you cool or vent the OTA?)

Stan


Two last images taken on July 18

 

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Dear All,

Please find the two last images taken on this nice night on July 18.

The area North of Hadley :



The setting sun on Aristoteles and Eudoxus :


Clear sky to all !

Christian Viladrich


Re: Some more lunar images taken on July 17

 

Christian,
your work is amazingly detailed and something I aspire to improve on... I suspect it will take some time!!


Lunar pic taken on July 18

 

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Dear all,

I was blessed with good seeing on the night of July 18. Here are some pictures taken with the "classic" Celestron 14, IDS3370 camera and red filter. The processing is done with Autostakkert 2 with 400 to 900 frames stacked out of the 5000 frames of each video file.

Walter :


Stofler :


Ptolemeus :


Albategnius :


Triesnecker and Hyginius rile system :



Plato :


Alpine Valley :


Best regards

Christian Viladrich


Some more lunar images taken on July 17

 

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Dear All,

Here are two more images taken on July 17th with the (classic) Celestron 14 and the IDS3370 camera.

Solis Lacus :


The north part of Mare Tranquillitatis :


Best regards

Christian


Re: Some lunar images taken on July 17

 

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Thanks Ron :-)

Le 23/07/2014 10:13, Rom Springall starman00@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

Absolutely exquisite images. Detail is staggering.



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Re: Some lunar images taken on July 17

 

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Thanks Stan :-)

I use the "classic" C14 with a X2 Astrophyscis Barlow lens, an Astronomik red filter and an IDS 3370 camera.

The exposure time is 30 ms, I stacked 400 or 600 frames (out of 5000 frames) with Autostakkert 2. I simply do an unsharp mask, and then some curve correction in Photoshop.

Christian

Le 23/07/2014 15:40, stan_ccd@... [C14_EdgeHD] a écrit?:

Wow! Top notch.?


Please share some acquisition details; e.g. C-14 model (HD?), exp time, number of images raw/selected, stacking program, sharpening method(s), etc.


Thanks,

Stan



Re: Some lunar images taken on July 17

 

Wow! Top notch.?


Please share some acquisition details; e.g. C-14 model (HD?), exp time, number of images raw/selected, stacking program, sharpening method(s), etc.


Thanks,

Stan