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Hello all,


I'm looking for some information regarding cabooses and marker lights here
in Canada, specifically, what do the red and green lights that can be
displayed to the rear of the train signify, and what colour flags could be
flown from the van (and why?).


Here's the scoop... I'll be working for a few weeks living in a caboose, and
I'd like to know what signals would properly be displayed in the days before
electronic tail-end devices. Our caboose is LNAL 076 (nee CP 434547), and
today I replaced the ditch lights, marker lights, etc and made sure we had
clean windows before heading off to the USA.

Anyways, any help would be appreciated.

Regards,
J.



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James Gamble, the travellin' man
ICQ# 36957838
Riding the rails with Siemens-Westinghouse, February-July 2000
Trackside at: Paris Jct, CN Dundas Sub (mile 30.9)

"An accident's sometimes the only way to worm our way back to bad
decisions." -- Gord Downie

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Hi James,
As I recall, there would be on the marker light, two or three red lenses and
one green lens. If I can recall clearly, when a train enters a siding and
waits for the other train tto clear the mainline, and the switch is thrown
for the mainline, the marker lights would be displayed in such a way that
the red lenses would face to the rear of the caboose and to the side, the
green lens would face the front of the train, and thus the towards the
approaching train, signifying that the switch is thrown and he is clear to
proceed. Anyone else have another senario in mind? Would like to hear the
other uses.

Thomas Sajnovic
MILE 262

Hello all,


I'm looking for some information regarding cabooses and marker lights here
in Canada, specifically, what do the red and green lights that can be
displayed to the rear of the train signify, and what colour flags could be
flown from the van (and why?).

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"J. Gamble" wrote:

From: "J. Gamble" <trvln_man@...>

Hello all,

I'm looking for some information regarding cabooses and marker lights
here
in Canada, specifically, what do the red and green lights that can be
displayed to the rear of the train signify, and what colour flags
could be
flown from the van (and why?).

Here's the scoop... I'll be working for a few weeks living in a
caboose, and
I'd like to know what signals would properly be displayed in the days
before
electronic tail-end devices. Our caboose is LNAL 076 (nee CP 434547),
and
today I replaced the ditch lights, marker lights, etc and made sure we
had
clean windows before heading off to the USA.

Anyways, any help would be appreciated.

Regards,
J.

----------------------------
James Gamble, the travellin' man
ICQ# 36957838
Riding the rails with Siemens-Westinghouse, February-July 2000
Trackside at: Paris Jct, CN Dundas Sub (mile 30.9)

"An accident's sometimes the only way to worm our way back to bad
decisions." -- Gord Downie

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James,

The caboose markers had one red lens, and all the others were green.
When a train or any part of the train was occupying the mainline, the
markers displayed red to the rear. When a train was clear of the
mainline to be passed by another train, the markers could be swiveled to
display green to the rear.

If a following train observed green markers on a train ahead, they could
breath easy. If they were approaching a train displaying red markers,
that was another story.

Markers also indicated the rear of a train. If you were meeting a train
on single track, and the tail end went by without markers, you couldn't
proceed because the train wasn't complete. This was very important,
especially in areas with heavy grades. Sometimes the train passing only
had half his train and was doubling the hill. If you proceeded without
seeing his markers, you could run into the second half of his train.

The only time flags were used was if you couldn't display markers for
some reason. A red flag or red light also indicated the rear of a train.
This was quite common when, for whatever reason, you were handling cars
behind the caboose. Freight cars had no brackets for hanging markers. In
that case the markers had to be taken down from the caboose and a red
flag by day, or a red light by night had to be displayed on the last
car.

Gary

From: "Thomas Sajnovic" <mile262@...>

Hi James,

From UCOR(1962):
19. MARKERS
The following signals will be displayed to the rear of every tarin to
indicate the rear of the train:
(1) by day, markers not lighted.
(2) by night:
On single track and when running with the current of traffic on 2 tracks,
markers lighted displaying red to the rear.
On 2 tracks, when standing or running against the current of traffic,
markers lighted displaying red to the rear on the outside and green to the
rear between tracks.
...
When a train is clear of the main track to be passed by another train,
lighted markers will display green to the rear.
...
EXCEPTION: The requirement that markers display green to the rear when clear
of main track does not apply in CTC.

19A. A train not equipped to display markers as prescibed by Rule 19 will
display a red flag by day and a red light by night to indicate the rear. The
red light will be replaced by a white light when train is clear of main track.

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2 red and 2 green l;enses in lamps shoulde the case.

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Caboose markers
Maybe I shouldn't do this from memory, but it was common sensical anyway.
Both red means you are on main track (single track) or in CTC.
Both green means you are in the siding.
In current of traffic territory, when running against the current of traffic,
the green light is displayed to the side of the track you are not on, and red
to the side you are on.
If you are not sure, then leave them both red.
If you are tied down in the siding, and dont have a schedule, turn them off.
(because you are not a train and should not display markers)
White is displayed in lieu of green, (except in CTC).

Hope that helps
Paul Bellis