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Mixed Trains from the 1950's


Mike Salfi
 

Was wondering if anyone could help me out with a question regarding "mixed"
trains, as they would have operated in the 1950's on the CPR.

It was always my understanding that mixed trains carried the markers on the
coach or combination car at the end of the train, however I am now wondering
if, in fact, there was a caboose on mixed trains, in which case the markers
would have been carried on the caboose.

Was there a standard operating practise, or was it at the discretion of the
crew of the mixed train? If both cases were true, which would have been the
more common practise?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

Michael Salfi
Kitchener, Ontario

email: msalfi@...

We are the navvies who work upon the railway,
Swinging our hammers in the bright glazing sun,
Laying down track and building the bridges,
Bending our backs till the railroad is done.

From "The Canadian Railroad Trilogy", by Gordon Lightfoot


Mike Salfi
 

Great information received on this topic. In talking with a friend in
Waterloo, it was also suggested that a caboose would be used if there were
an overnight lay over whereas if it were a return trip on the same day a
caboose would most likely not be used. The caboose, in the case of an over
night lay over would provide accomodation for the crew.

Michael Salfi
Kitchener, Ontario

email: msalfi@...

We are the navvies who work upon the railway,
Swinging our hammers in the bright glazing sun,
Laying down track and building the bridges,
Bending our backs till the railroad is done.

From "The Canadian Railroad Trilogy", by Gordon Lightfoot


 

Hi Mike:

I think both systems applied depending on the locale and frequency of the
runs. On the CP between Fort William (Thunder Bay) and Winnipeg, then
known as the Kenora Division, during the final years of mixed train
operation (~late 50's to mid 60's) when the service was reduced to one
train each way per week, these trains were crewed from the freight pool.
Thus, the van assigned to pertinent crew was carried behind the combine.

FWIW one combine was assigned to this operation, starting out in Kenora
it travelled west to Winnpeg on Monday (train no. 505), east back to
Kenora on Tuesdays (train no. 506), east to Ignace on Wednesday (train no
508), east to Fort William on Thursday (train no. 510), then west again
on Friday back to Ignace (train no 509) and finally back west to Kenora
on Saturday (train no. 507).

Bill Bishop
Thunder Bay, On



Mike Salfi wrote:


From: "Mike Salfi" <msalfi@...>

Was wondering if anyone could help me out with a question regarding "mixed"
trains, as they would have operated in the 1950's on the CPR.

It was always my understanding that mixed trains carried the markers on the
coach or combination car at the end of the train, however I am now wondering
if, in fact, there was a caboose on mixed trains, in which case the markers
would have been carried on the caboose.

Was there a standard operating practise, or was it at the discretion of the
crew of the mixed train? If both cases were true, which would have been the
more common practise?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

Michael Salfi
Kitchener, Ontario

email: msalfi@...

We are the navvies who work upon the railway,
Swinging our hammers in the bright glazing sun,
Laying down track and building the bridges,
Bending our backs till the railroad is done.

From "The Canadian Railroad Trilogy", by Gordon Lightfoot
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