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12 wheel tenders was RE: Fw: Secret CPR "Chinese" trains


Mike Salfi
 

According to Don Scott's posts on the CPR in the 1950's:
??? In the late 1940's and early 1950's, semi-streamlined heavy 4-6-2's were
re-equipped with 12 wheel tender trucks, to enable higher capacity for coal
(21 tons) and water (12,000 gallons). This change was only applied to
passenger power assigned from Montreal east through the State of Maine to
McAdam, N.B. and Saint John, N.B. on passenger trains #39, #40, #41 and #42;
the last two being "Atlantic Limited" service.
??? The locomotives were *2394, *2395, *2396, *2397, *2402, *2453, *2455,
*2457, *2459 and *2467. Locomotive *2461 retained its original 8 wheel
tender (with a capacity of 18 tons of coal, water capacity 10,000 gallons
like other semi-streamlined 2300 and 2400 series on Eastern Lines. A number
of Western lines semi-streamlined 4-6-2's of the 2300 series also received
12 wheel tenders and were mostly converted to being oil fired.

Michael Salfi
Kitchener, Ontario

email: msalfi@...

We are the navvies who work upon the railway,
Swinging our hammers in the bright glazing sun,
Laying down track and building the bridges,
Bending our backs till the railroad is done.

From "The Canadian Railroad Trilogy", by Gordon Lightfoot

-----Original Message-----
From: James E.Mack [mailto:lvrr@...]
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 11:28 PM
To: C-P-R@...
Subject: Re: [C-P-R] Fw: Secret CPR "Chinese" trains


From: "James E.Mack" <lvrr@...>



There are also some photos. The only photo in which one of the trains
is visible is too small to get the locomotive number, but it appears to
be a heavy 4-6-2 with Elesco feedwater heater and long haul (6 wheel)
tender.
What year did the CPR start using Elesco feedwater heater and what year did
they start using long haul (6 wheel) tenders ?


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James E.Mack
 

With 6 wheel tenters coming in the 1950s on the 4-6-2s and if it is a 4-6-4 H1a or b
it would be late 1920s so the photo of this train could not have been World War one.

Mike Salfi wrote:

From: "Mike Salfi" <msalfi@...>

According to Don Scott's posts on the CPR in the 1950's:
??? In the late 1940's and early 1950's, semi-streamlined heavy 4-6-2's were
re-equipped with 12 wheel tender trucks, to enable higher capacity for coal
(21 tons) and water (12,000 gallons). This change was only applied to
passenger power assigned from Montreal east through the State of Maine to
McAdam, N.B. and Saint John, N.B. on passenger trains #39, #40, #41 and #42;
the last two being "Atlantic Limited" service.
??? The locomotives were *2394, *2395, *2396, *2397, *2402, *2453, *2455,
*2457, *2459 and *2467. Locomotive *2461 retained its original 8 wheel
tender (with a capacity of 18 tons of coal, water capacity 10,000 gallons
like other semi-streamlined 2300 and 2400 series on Eastern Lines. A number
of Western lines semi-streamlined 4-6-2's of the 2300 series also received
12 wheel tenders and were mostly converted to being oil fired.

Michael Salfi
Kitchener, Ontario

email: msalfi@...

We are the navvies who work upon the railway,
Swinging our hammers in the bright glazing sun,
Laying down track and building the bridges,
Bending our backs till the railroad is done.

From "The Canadian Railroad Trilogy", by Gordon Lightfoot
-----Original Message-----
From: James E.Mack [mailto:lvrr@...]
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 11:28 PM
To: C-P-R@...
Subject: Re: [C-P-R] Fw: Secret CPR "Chinese" trains

From: "James E.Mack" <lvrr@...>

There are also some photos. The only photo in which one of the trains
is visible is too small to get the locomotive number, but it appears to
be a heavy 4-6-2 with Elesco feedwater heater and long haul (6 wheel)
tender.
What year did the CPR start using Elesco feedwater heater and what year did
they start using long haul (6 wheel) tenders ?

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