开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io

Question about that picture


 

Can anyone tell me more about this picture?

- Where was it taken?
- Is this trackage still in use? (From the car in the background the picture looks to be about 50 years old.)
- Why was the track built this way? Is it a former interurban line?

I thought since the picture features a CN switcher, this might be the place to ask.

Mark Tomlonson


 

Cool picture. I see a couple of tall masts. Also a plaque or small sign on the porch.? Can't ID the car but late 60s or early 70s seems right.

And the complaint about blocked RR crossings might be heard at this one house...

_._,_._,_


 

It's near Toronto. The rail-line is no longer there. In fact, I think the house was torn down as well. Wouldn't be surprised if it had foundation issues.




 

开云体育

The "masts" appear to be a couple of TV antennas (in the days before cable ? ) and perhaps a ham radio?antenna (on the right). Alas, that makes it unlikely that they are much help in identifying the location.

However, a quick google search of the image finds another, taken at the junction of Ritson Rd S and Bruce Street in Oshawa, Ontario.?
This is a branch to a GM stamping plant. Looks like pretty good match!

Careful examination of Google Maps images shows the patched street on Bruce Street where the tracks used to run.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


 

Ritson Rd and Bruce St in Oshawa, Ontario.
As part of the Oshawa railway, the railway ran north-south and so connected to the east-west lines running through Oshawa and also served local industries.

More detail, including a hand drawn map, is here:


On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 8:56?AM Sam <samuelbehlen@...> wrote:

It's near Toronto. The rail-line is no longer there. In fact, I think the house was torn down as well. Wouldn't be surprised if it had foundation issues.




 

The image is close, but the details on the house (porch railing, a "roof" above the second floor windows) makes it doubtful it's the same location. It could easily be in the same area as the houses are about the same age.

Thanks to all of you for your replies.

Mark Tomlonson


Do more things that make you forget to check your phone.


On Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 9:04:36 AM EST, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


The "masts" appear to be a couple of TV antennas (in the days before cable ? ) and perhaps a ham radio?antenna (on the right). Alas, that makes it unlikely that they are much help in identifying the location.

However, a quick google search of the image finds another, taken at the junction of Ritson Rd S and Bruce Street in Oshawa, Ontario.?
This is a branch to a GM stamping plant. Looks like pretty good match!

Careful examination of Google Maps images shows the patched street on Bruce Street where the tracks used to run.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


 

开云体育

The house in the first picture, from Mark, is not the same corner house in the Google shot. The Google shows a newer, wider driveway, and a square house. The pic from Mark shows another of the row houses like it’s neighbors to the left in the Google shot. Also, the front porch is quite different – it does not cover the entire street side of the house like the porch does in Mark’s shot.

If the dark lines on Bruce St are, in fact, the rail lines, it would transect the corner of the structure on the Google shot.

The brown car looks to be an original Toyota Corolla from the early ‘70s. ?Note the “vent” at the base of the “C” pillar. That’s confirmed by the blue Econoline van in the driveway in the shot looking down Bruce Street.

As for the antenna mast on the right edge in the Bruce St shot, it is a Ham mast, but those are TV antennas at the top. If you look at Mark’s shot, there are two (or maybe three) more over the top of the SW. I remember seeing masts like these in Laurel, Md., on houses that were in a small depression and didn’t have a clear shot at the TV towers in Baltimore. I’m not saying that that’s the location, just making a comparison in antenna usage.

Marks shot, when blown up to 600%, show that those are really Interurban rails – with the “U”-shaped gulley for the wheel flange to ride in. You can see the top of the inner cup just as the rails hit the pavement. And that kink in the rails???? What’s up with that?

All else aside, I’m not sure I’d want to live there. Talk about a blind spot when backing out of the driveway!!! And you’d have to time baking a cake to when you knew a train wouldn’t pass by.

Bert

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 6:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [C-N-R] Question about that picture

?

The "masts" appear to be a couple of TV antennas (in the days before cable ? ) and perhaps a ham radio?antenna (on the right). Alas, that makes it unlikely that they are much help in identifying the location.

?

However, a quick google search of the image finds another, taken at the junction of Ritson Rd S and Bruce Street in Oshawa, Ontario.?

This is a branch to a GM stamping plant. Looks like pretty good match!

?

Careful examination of Google Maps images shows the patched street on Bruce Street where the tracks used to run.

?

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


 

开云体育

You have the right corner, Bruce. Zoom in on the Gaggle picture and you can see the shadow of the street lamp mast that is behind the train but still on the train side of Ritson St. That would also confirm that the house in Marks pic is no longer there and something else has been built on its site. The Toyota I mentioned is in front of 71 Ritson St.

Bert

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 6:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [C-N-R] Question about that picture

?

The "masts" appear to be a couple of TV antennas (in the days before cable ? ) and perhaps a ham radio?antenna (on the right). Alas, that makes it unlikely that they are much help in identifying the location.

?

However, a quick google search of the image finds another, taken at the junction of Ritson Rd S and Bruce Street in Oshawa, Ontario.?

This is a branch to a GM stamping plant. Looks like pretty good match!

?

Careful examination of Google Maps images shows the patched street on Bruce Street where the tracks used to run.

?

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


 

开云体育

Mark

Sorry late to the party, this picture circulates every few years, I always understood it to be at the corner of Bruce and Ritson.? The house in the picture is now demolished and a new property across the roadbed has been built, however the house in the background is still there and visible on Google Earth (with new siding).

Malcolm


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark Tomlonson via groups.io <tomlonson@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 9:25 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [C-N-R] Question about that picture
?
The image is close, but the details on the house (porch railing, a "roof" above the second floor windows) makes it doubtful it's the same location. It could easily be in the same area as the houses are about the same age.

Thanks to all of you for your replies.

Mark Tomlonson


Do more things that make you forget to check your phone.


On Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 9:04:36 AM EST, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


The "masts" appear to be a couple of TV antennas (in the days before cable ? ) and perhaps a ham radio?antenna (on the right). Alas, that makes it unlikely that they are much help in identifying the location.

However, a quick google search of the image finds another, taken at the junction of Ritson Rd S and Bruce Street in Oshawa, Ontario.?
This is a branch to a GM stamping plant. Looks like pretty good match!

Careful examination of Google Maps images shows the patched street on Bruce Street where the tracks used to run.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


 

Mark – it is the exact same location, just opposite angles. The
railpictures photo (the linked one) is looking west along Bruce Street at a
train that is heading north (turning east to north) to go to the GM plant.
The photo that was sent attached to the original email was looking north at
a train that was heading in the opposite direction to the linked one,
turning south to west.



Gordon Webster

Delaware, OH USeh

<mailto:Gordon67@...> Gordon67@...



_____

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Mark Tomlonson via groups.io
<tomlonson@... <mailto:tomlonson@...> >
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 9:25 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [C-N-R] Question about that picture



The image is close, but the details on the house (porch railing, a "roof"
above the second floor windows) makes it doubtful it's the same location. It
could easily be in the same area as the houses are about the same age.



Thanks to all of you for your replies.



Mark Tomlonson





Do more things that make you forget to check your phone.

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 9:04:36 AM EST, Bruce Smith
<smithbf@... <mailto:smithbf@...> > wrote:





The "masts" appear to be a couple of TV antennas (in the days before cable
? ) and perhaps a ham radio antenna (on the right). Alas, that makes it
unlikely that they are much help in identifying the location.



However, a quick google search of the image finds another, taken at the
junction of Ritson Rd S and Bruce Street in Oshawa, Ontario.



This is a branch to a GM stamping plant. Looks like pretty good match!



Careful examination of Google Maps images shows the patched street on Bruce
Street where the tracks used to run.



Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


 

The fact that it continues to circulate is the reason I posed the question. Being somewhat curious, it's nice to know the story behind the picture.

Thanks again to everyone who has chimed in on this thread.

Mark Tomlonson


Do more things that make you forget to check your phone.


On Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 10:29:40 AM EST, malcolm peakman <mopeakman@...> wrote:


Mark

Sorry late to the party, this picture circulates every few years, I always understood it to be at the corner of Bruce and Ritson.? The house in the picture is now demolished and a new property across the roadbed has been built, however the house in the background is still there and visible on Google Earth (with new siding).

Malcolm


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark Tomlonson via groups.io <tomlonson@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 9:25 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [C-N-R] Question about that picture
?
The image is close, but the details on the house (porch railing, a "roof" above the second floor windows) makes it doubtful it's the same location. It could easily be in the same area as the houses are about the same age.

Thanks to all of you for your replies.

Mark Tomlonson


Do more things that make you forget to check your phone.


On Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 9:04:36 AM EST, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


The "masts" appear to be a couple of TV antennas (in the days before cable ? ) and perhaps a ham radio?antenna (on the right). Alas, that makes it unlikely that they are much help in identifying the location.

However, a quick google search of the image finds another, taken at the junction of Ritson Rd S and Bruce Street in Oshawa, Ontario.?
This is a branch to a GM stamping plant. Looks like pretty good match!

Careful examination of Google Maps images shows the patched street on Bruce Street where the tracks used to run.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


 

Mark:



More information can be found here. It was formerly a part of the Oshawa
Railway, which was taken over by GT in 1910, ending up CN. It was an
electric line that also handled passengers. It never built outside of the
Oshawa town/city limits. The tracks north of the CN Kingston Sub were torn
out in 1998. I thought there was some track left south of the Kingston Sub
(not street running, ran along the side of the street) but I can’t remember
when they were taken out.



There are some interesting videos available:



Train operating around the curve where the photo you posted was taken:




There is a video of the last train that ran on King Street in Oshawa in
1963. Now, when there is a last train that runs, there are 40 or so foamers
that go out and chase the train, like the last run from Orangeville. This
was quite the turnout, with bands, oxen pulled wagons, people standing
5-deep on the sidewalk…it was a parade!!!:




There is much more info, with a track drawing, on Old Time Trains:

and Transit Toronto (includes many roster photos of the electrics):




More recent photo, further north on Ritson, with a longer train:

he-oshawa-railway-sw1200rs-1366-and-1339-run-the-red-light-at-bond-street-as
-they-approach-the-general-motors-north-plant-unfortunately-i-didnt-note-th







Gordon Webster

Delaware, OH USeh

<mailto:Gordon67@...> Gordon67@...



From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Tomlonson via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2024 8:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [C-N-R] Question about that picture



Can anyone tell me more about this picture?

- Where was it taken?
- Is this trackage still in use? (From the car in the background the
picture looks to be about 50 years old.)
- Why was the track built this way? Is it a former interurban line?

I thought since the picture features a CN switcher, this might be the place
to ask.

Mark Tomlonson


 

Thank you very much for this added information.

Mark Tomlonson



Do more things that make you forget to check your phone.


On Thursday, January 4, 2024, 6:25:57 PM EST, Gordon Webster <gordon67@...> wrote:


Mark:

More information can be found here.?