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Eastern Fallen Flags at Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago
Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago
7:30 pm Central Daylight Time Friday, April 18, 2025 Please do not arrive before 7:15 pm. Also, if you are participating on Zoom, please do not join before 7:15 pm on the day of the meeting. We haven't used Zoom since the disastrous meeting in January. The March meeting wasn't on Zoom as it was a slide presentation. We are trying again to get hybrid Zoom meetings right. Zoom meeting codes are at the end of this message. Our next meeting will be both an in-person meeting and a Zoom meeting. If enough people from outside the Chicago area attending Zoom meetings become Club members, this will encourage the Club to make hybrid meetings a permanent feature. Dues are $20 which include four glossy newsletters sent by mail. The dues renewal is sent with the fourth newsletter. We still have slide shows which will not be presented via Zoom. Here are details about joining Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago: In-person meeting location Chicago Union Station Room 107A 500 W Jackson Blvd (enter between Clinton and Canal) Chicago, Illinois Eastern Fallen Flags by Russell Sharp Russell Sharp will present photos taken on the Baltimore and Ohio, Chesapeake and Ohio, Central Railroad of New Jersey (Jersey Central), Delaware and Hudson, Erie-Lackawanna, New York Central and New York, New Haven and Hartford, Reading Lines, and various short lines such as the Kelley's Creek and Northwestern Railroad in West Virginia. Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago meets at 7:30 pm Central Time on the third Friday of the month except in July and August. The in-person meeting location is Chicago Union Station Room 107A. Enter at 500 W Jackson Blvd, which is between Clinton and Canal. Upcoming programs May 16, 2025: Layover in Savanna by Leo Phillipp For program announcements, please subscribe to our groups.io mailing list. Send a blank email message To: [email protected] To obtain Zoom meeting codes for future programs given by Zoom, the best way is to subscribe to our groups.io mailing list. Web site: Email: shortlinechicagoHS@... Facebook: Phone number answered during the program: 312 725-0432. At other times, leave message with your name and telephone number to receive a call back. Zoom meeting invitation Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: The Rise and Fall of Chicago Cable Cars Time: 7:30 pm Central Standard Time, Friday, January 17, 2025 Join Zoom Meeting Meeting ID: 810 8968 7625 Passcode: 997503 --- One tap mobile 3126266799,,81089687625#,,,,*997503# US (Chicago) 3092053325,,81089687625#,,,,*997503# US --- Dial by your location 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) 309 205 3325 US 646 931 3860 US 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) 305 224 1968 US 646 558 8656 US (New York) 720 707 2699 US (Denver) 253 205 0468 US 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) 346 248 7799 US (Houston) 360 209 5623 US 386 347 5053 US 507 473 4847 US 564 217 2000 US 669 444 9171 US 689 278 1000 US 719 359 4580 US Meeting ID: 810 8968 7625 Passcode: 997503 Find your local number: |
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April 15 in CNR History
April 15, 1912 The R.M.S. Titanic sinks on its maiden voyage after striking an iceberg. Among the lost: Grand Trunk Railway President Charles M. Hays, Pennsylvania Railroad Vice-President John B. Thayer and George D. Widener, a Philadelphia streetcar magnate. Thayer's son is swept off the boat deck but survives on the overturned collapsible lifeboat. ? Mark Tomlonson ? |
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Re: National Steel Car and 8300's
开云体育Hi Doug,
NSC Centrecabs are still on the property. #11 is operational and is still outside and is used.
#10 (parts source since 2011-12 or so) and #12 (active until 2023/2024) are still on the property.
The facility is served by CNR multiple times a week.
On 4/13/2025 1:44 PM, Doug Renshaw via
groups.io wrote:
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National Steel Car and 8300's
开云体育
Couple of questions.
First question not related to CN but not sure were to ask.
NSC had 3 GE 50T's (10,11 &12) that were replaced in October, 2022
with SW1001's 5306, 8504 and 8704.
Were the 50T's scrapped?
Interesting that NSC is manufacturing Auto racks.
Must have been 20 on site when I drove by plant yesterday.
Jan/Feb. 2025 Branchline listed SD75IACC' s up to 8314.
Nothing listed in the March/April 2025 Branchline.
Are there more on the roster or coming?
Thanks
Doug Renshaw
Burlington, ON.
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April 8 in CNR History
April 8, 1867 A special excursion train departs Chicago on the first through run to New York over the new Michigan Central-Great Western of Canada-New York Central route. The train is ferried across the Detroit River. The route is uniform standard gauge. A through Pullman Palace hotel car is established between Chicago and Albany. ? April 8, 1921 Canadian National closes the Henderson Avenue station in Ottawa, originally built by the Canadian Northern. Canadian National trains begin using Ottawa Union Station instead. ? Mark Tomlonson |
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This Weekend in CNR History
April 4, 1909 The Kensington & Eastern Railroad, built and owned by the Illinois Central is leased to the Chicago, Lake Shore & South Bend (interurban) which today extends its service from Hammond IN through to Kensington IL and then into Chicago over the IC. ? April 4, 1910 An amendment to the U.S. Safety Appliance Act requires freight cars to be equipped with ladders, handholds and running boards. ? April 5, 1995 CN North America opens the new St. Clair Tunnel. Improvements made in the design of the new tunnel allow double-stack trains to cross under the St. Clair river for the first time. ? Mark Tomlonson |
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Re: This Weekend in CNR History
On Wed, Apr 2, 2025, 07:45 James Robichaux via <robichauxenterprises.jr=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: This Weekend in CNR History
What has WATCo done with those CN lines that it purchased in 2021?? Do they comprise new railroad companies? James On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 7:27?AM Mark Tomlonson via <tomlonson=[email protected]> wrote:
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April 1 in CNR History
April 1, 1893 The Grand Trunk Railway of Canada merges several rail companies it has owned into itself. ? April 1, 1933 The Canadian National Radio Department and its network of stations, developed to entertain passengers on long distance runs, is turned over to the Canadian Radio Broadcasting Commission, and will eventually become the CBC. ? April 1, 1949 With the entry of Newfoundland into the Confederation of Canada, the Newfoundland Railway is transferred to Canadian National Railway. ? April 1, 1960 Class 1 railroads in the U.S. report a total of only 519 steam locomotives on their rosters. ? April 1, 1966 A U.S. ban on running boards goes into effect for box and similar house cars ordered after this date. ? April 1, 1967 The United States Department of Transportation begins operation. ? April 1, 1978 VIA Rail Canada becomes an independent company, emerging from CN Rail. They also acquire the Turbotrains. ? Mark Tomlonson |
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Scanner Frequencies
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In reply to Malcolm:
Thanks for your reply.
At Burlington, train standby channel is 161.415 which seems to
cover a lot of territory.
160.365 is car control for Aldershot and Oakville which can be
used for work in Aldershot yard. This is Channel 5.
If a train is going to be working in the yard for an period of
time they go to Channel 7, 159.810.
If there is multiple activity in the yard, then someone will go
to channel 17, 160.695.
Trackside Guide Section 12 lists frequencies but it is difficult to
?figure out the areas some are used in.
Hamilton Yard has their own frequency?161.385, channel 40.
Then there are the M of W channels and Engineering channels.
Guess I'm just going to have to enter more frequencies and
see if some give me the chatter I want.
Doug Renshaw
Burlington, ON.
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This Weekend in CNR History
March 28, 1901 The Atlantic, Quebec & Western Railway (later CNR) is incorporated in Quebec. ? March 29, 1919 A narrow-gauge Canadian National train reaches Alberton PE, after taking 10 days to travel the last 2 miles in the worst blizzard locals can remember. The train has a plow, locomotive and 4 coaches. ? March 29, 1957 The Central Vermont dieselizes. ? March 29, 1960 Revenue steam ends on the Grand Trunk Western as 2-8-2 4070 pulls a 50 car freight from Pontiac to Durand MI. ? March 30, 1959 The New York Central agrees to pay the Illinois Central $5 million (2025: $55.2 million) for breaching its contract to have Michigan Central trains terminate at Central Station in Chicago. NYC has moved them to LaSalle Street station. ? March 30, 2021 CN and Watco announce an agreement for Watco to buy 900 miles of rail lines in Wisconsin, Michigan and Ontario owned by Wisconsin Central Railroad and Algoma Central. ? Mark Tomlonson |
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Re: Scanner Frequencies
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Trackside Guide Page 12-2 has the general CN frequencies which they sometimes use, I hear RTC asking people to use channel 5 etc quite frequently particularly if they are going to be tying a channel up for some time.
Malcolm
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Doug Renshaw via groups.io <trainguy999@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2025 4:42 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [C-N-R] Scanner Frequencies ?
I was watching a CN crew lift cars on the Beach Spur, off the Oakville Sub. Mlge 31.86
In Burlington.
My scanner has 161.415? Train Standby
160.365? Car Control? Oakville-Aldershot
159.810?? Switching Aldershot
160.695?? Switching Aldershot
161.025?? RTC on the Okvle, Halton, Dundas and Grimsby Subs.
I'm standing less than 40 meters from the chaps and not hearing
a thing on my scanner.
Anyone say what frequency I'm missing?
Thanks
Doug Renshaw
Burlington, ON.
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Scanner Frequencies
开云体育
I was watching a CN crew lift cars on the Beach Spur, off the Oakville Sub. Mlge 31.86
In Burlington.
My scanner has 161.415? Train Standby
160.365? Car Control? Oakville-Aldershot
159.810?? Switching Aldershot
160.695?? Switching Aldershot
161.025?? RTC on the Okvle, Halton, Dundas and Grimsby Subs.
I'm standing less than 40 meters from the chaps and not hearing
a thing on my scanner.
Anyone say what frequency I'm missing?
Thanks
Doug Renshaw
Burlington, ON.
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March 27 in CNR History
March 27, 1960 The last regularly scheduled steam-powered passenger train on a major U.S. railroad runs from Durand to Detroit on the Grand Trunk Western. ? March 27, 1995 After a two-week strike by the Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employees, affecting Canadian National, Canadian Pacific, and VIA Rail, the Canadian Parliament creates arbitration panels to resolve the dispute. ? Mark Tomlonson |
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March 26 in CNR History
March 26, 1962 Canadian National's eastbound "Ocean Limited" becomes the first train painted entirely in CN's new passenger paint scheme. A few engines and cars started appearing in the new scheme last year. ? March 26, 2013 Hartsdale Interlocking, between Canadian National’s former Elgin Joliet & Eastern and the former Pennsylvania Railroad Panhandle line in Indiana is closed and the diamond removed. CN begins service to the single customer, Midwest Pipe Coating, affected by the closing. ? Mark Tomlonson |