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?How to fix weak mic audio output?
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Do you mean that you have low transmitter output? ?If so, could be that you need to bump up the gain at R136. ?See post?/g/BITX20/message/22112? But do not turn R136 up so high that you get distortion. ? ?Also maybe check out this post ?/g/BITX20/message/22252? Then ask John Smith if you have any questions. ? Of course, there are many potential faults in the Bitx40 that could reduce transmitter output.? Jerry, KE7ER
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 09:55 pm, dwinesumalpongjr@... wrote: How to fix weak mic audio output?
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Try adjusting R136 a silver trimmer on the same side of the board as the PA near the corner. If you rotate it counter clockwise it will increase watts output. It's best to adjust it up to the point your multimeter shows your PA current draw is about 1 Amp when saying a long aahhh like the Doctor tells ya to say. And don't yell loud. Yelling and over driving the PA causes overmodulation distortion that can't be understood. This usually fixes low audio and low TX power. I have never seen anyone come back and say "Nope that wasn't it". Replacing the mic gave be better audio quality too.
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Hello john,
I already did that,adjusting R136 and RV1 and it gives 5-6Watts output but the problem is that my audio is weak.replacing new emc make no changes,,
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On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 3:10 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io <johnlinux77@...> wrote: Try adjusting R136 a silver trimmer on the same side of the board as the PA near the corner. If you rotate it counter clockwise it will increase watts output. It's best to adjust it up to the point your multimeter shows your PA current draw is about 1 Amp when saying a long aahhh like the Doctor tells ya to say. And don't yell loud. Yelling and over driving the PA causes overmodulation distortion that can't be understood. This usually fixes low audio and low TX power. I have never seen anyone come back and say "Nope that wasn't it". Replacing the mic gave be better audio quality too.
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Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing. When you find it bring it back here.
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i will trace it again john,,that`s what make me wonder during QSO.,they told me i have very weak audio.,
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On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io <johnlinux77@...> wrote: Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing. When you find it bring it back here.
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Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal - you
are QRP after all!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
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i will trace it again
john,,that`s what make me wonder during QSO.,they told me i have very
weak audio.,
73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77@...> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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Hello raj, How to check bfo frequency?is there a need special instruments?
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On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:51 pm, Raj vu2zap <vu2zap@...> wrote:
Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal - you
are QRP after all!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
i will trace it again
john,,that`s what make me wonder during QSO.,they told me i have very
weak audio.,
73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77@...> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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Yes, you will either need a frequency counter or a commercial Rx or
Tcvr.
You can put a short wire from commercial Rx/Tcvr as a pickup near the
BITX and tune around 12Mhz to get the BFO carrier beat note in CW.
Tune for ZERO beat and see what you get!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
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Hello raj,
How to check bfo frequency?is there a need special instruments?
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:51 pm, Raj vu2zap
- <vu2zap@...> wrote:
- Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
- If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
- Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal -
you are QRP after all!
- Raj
- At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
- i will trace it again john,,that`s what make me wonder during
QSO.,they told me i have very weak audio.,
- 73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77@...> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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try replacing the mic element . Perhaps you might get one at home from PC headset or any such utility.
ensure that the mic is connected in right direction.
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:18 PM, dwinesumalpongjr@... via Groups.Io <dwinesumalpongjr@...> wrote: Hello raj,How to check bfo frequency?is there a need special instruments? On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:51 pm, Raj vu2zap
Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal - you
are QRP after all!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
i will trace it again
john,,that`s what make me wonder during QSO.,they told me i have very
weak audio.,
73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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Correction not CW but USB/LSB. Just woke up from a nap!
Yes, you will either need a frequency counter or a commercial Rx or
Tcvr.
You can put a short wire from commercial Rx/Tcvr as a pickup near the
BITX and tune around 12Mhz to get the BFO carrier beat note in
CW.
Tune for ZERO beat and see what you get!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
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Hello raj,
How to check bfo frequency?is there a need special instruments?
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:51 pm, Raj vu2zap
- <vu2zap@...> wrote:
- Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
- If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
- Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal -
you are QRP after all!
- Raj
- At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
- i will trace it again john,,that`s what make me wonder during
QSO.,they told me i have very weak audio.,
- 73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77@...> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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I have no freq.counter and spare rx rig,,but anyway thank you OM raj for the info.
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On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 7:34 pm, Raj vu2zap <vu2zap@...> wrote:
Yes, you will either need a frequency counter or a commercial Rx or
Tcvr.
You can put a short wire from commercial Rx/Tcvr as a pickup near the
BITX and tune around 12Mhz to get the BFO carrier beat note in CW.
Tune for ZERO beat and see what you get!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
Hello raj,
How to check bfo frequency?is there a need special instruments?
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:51 pm, Raj vu2zap
- <vu2zap@...> wrote:
- Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
- If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
- Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal -
you are QRP after all!
- Raj
- At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
- i will trace it again john,,that`s what make me wonder during
QSO.,they told me i have very weak audio.,
- 73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77@...> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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Hello OM Sarma,i already did that,but still the mic audio output is tiny accordingly,
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On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 7:45 pm, Mvs Sarma <mvssarma@...> wrote: try replacing the mic element . Perhaps you might get one at home from PC headset or any such utility.
ensure that the mic is connected in right direction.
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Is the grounding of the red wire(calibration)is no help in this situation?
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On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 7:49 pm, Raj vu2zap <vu2zap@...> wrote:
Correction not CW but USB/LSB. Just woke up from a nap!
Yes, you will either need a frequency counter or a commercial Rx or
Tcvr.
You can put a short wire from commercial Rx/Tcvr as a pickup near the
BITX and tune around 12Mhz to get the BFO carrier beat note in
CW.
Tune for ZERO beat and see what you get!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
Hello raj,
How to check bfo frequency?is there a need special instruments?
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:51 pm, Raj vu2zap
- <vu2zap@...> wrote:
- Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
- If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
- Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal -
you are QRP after all!
- Raj
- At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
- i will trace it again john,,that`s what make me wonder during
QSO.,they told me i have very weak audio.,
- 73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77@...> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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Dwine,
A quick fix? would be a speech processor. Or you could add a bigger
heat sink and change the final voltage to 24V and get a
bigger signal!
Raj
At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
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Is the grounding of the red
wire(calibration)is no help in this situation?
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 7:49 pm, Raj vu2zap
- <vu2zap@...> wrote:
- Correction not CW but USB/LSB. Just woke up from a nap!
- Yes, you will either need a frequency counter or a commercial Rx or
Tcvr.
- You can put a short wire from commercial Rx/Tcvr as a pickup near the
BITX and tune around 12Mhz to get the BFO carrier beat note in
CW.
- Tune for ZERO beat and see what you get!
- Raj
- At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
- Hello raj,
- How to check bfo frequency?is there a need special
instruments?
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:51 pm, Raj vu2zap
- <vu2zap@...> wrote:
- Check the BFO frequency. 11.9985 MHz.
- If you have full power then your signal is fine but if the BFO is off
then the voice can sound bassy or tinny.
- Maybe thats what was meant by weak audio or simply a weak signal -
you are QRP after all!
- Raj
- At 23/02/2017, you wrote:
- i will trace it again john,,that`s what make me wonder during
QSO.,they told me i have very weak audio.,
- 73`
- On Thu, 23 Feb, 2017 at 4:21 pm, John Smith via Groups.Io
- <johnlinux77@...> wrote:
- Ya got me licked. Do you feel like there is not enough audio signal
being produced before it goes out to the antenna? If yes, then that's
what I would have told you and everyone else. Did you say you changed out
the mic? If it's not the drive or or the mic, then it must be a short
including a loose connection. Check your different soldered wire
connections and trace the connections on the board for those solder
joints. Just look at it for anything wrong or smells funny or is missing.
When you find it bring it back here.
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There is an inexpensive, amplified adjustable ?electret mic on Amazon. Not sure if/how it would work. See??
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One of the things I noticed about my first audio tests, was that I was off frequency. The Raduino needed to be calibrated to offset the zero beat so I wouldn't sound high pitched.? You can easily test this by monitoring your signal with another receiver. Then tune your BITX up or down in frequency by one step at a time, and see how it sounds in the receiver.? If they are not on the same frequency as you they only receive part of your signal. It can sound like Darth Vader one way, or Mickey Mouse the other way.
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Hello john,what if i set at 7.100mhz then as i transmit i can hear in my rx rig i`m on 7.150mhz,how will tune it to the right frequency during tx?
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On Fri, 24 Feb, 2017 at 1:53 am, John Smith via Groups.Io <johnlinux77@...> wrote: One of the things I noticed about my first audio tests, was that I was off frequency. The Raduino needed to be calibrated to offset the zero beat so I wouldn't sound high pitched.? You can easily test this by monitoring your signal with another receiver. Then tune your BITX up or down in frequency by one step at a time, and see how it sounds in the receiver.? If they are not on the same frequency as you they only receive part of your signal. It can sound like Darth Vader one way, or Mickey Mouse the other way.
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First thing to do is connect the 8 pin connectors RED wire to ground. Like the outer shield portion of the coax BNC connector is usually the safest bet. Use a clip wire if you need to. This turns on the Raduino calibration mode. I think you will want to adjust the frequency offset to -50, or +50 or so. then disconnect the RED wire. And then I think you have to reboot by unplugging it. Then your displayed frequency should match what you are actually on.? When I did this a few times it did not stay set. There has been talk of a solution of this recently. I think it was Jack Purdum who fixed it in the code to set after reboot. I have been playing with something else while this has been going on the past few days. So far, I have been tuning mine up 200Hz to be on the correct frequency. I can remember adding two at the end quicker than I can reprogram it. Here is a link to the thread about keeping the settings. ??Calibration : Bitx40
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If you are getting 5 watts, then there is nothing weak about your audio. i guess we are unable to understand the exact problem...
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:49 AM, John Smith via Groups.Io <johnlinux77@...> wrote: First thing to do is connect the 8 pin connectors RED wire to ground. Like the outer shield portion of the coax BNC connector is usually the safest bet. Use a clip wire if you need to. This turns on the Raduino calibration mode. I think you will want to adjust the frequency offset to -50, or +50 or so. then disconnect the RED wire. And then I think you have to reboot by unplugging it. Then your displayed frequency should match what you are actually on.? When I did this a few times it did not stay set. There has been talk of a solution of this recently. I think it was Jack Purdum who fixed it in the code to set after reboot. I have been playing with something else while this has been going on the past few days. So far, I have been tuning mine up 200Hz to be on the correct frequency. I can remember adding two at the end quicker than I can reprogram it. Here is a link to the thread about keeping the settings. ??Calibration : Bitx40
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