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W8TEE VFO Board

Adrian
 

just received the VFO board from Jack W8TEE. All I can say is very nice board and can't wait for the parts to arrive. They say patience is a virtue.....I am not a very patient person.?
Now I feel a little guilty. The board was supplied for US$7.50 postage to VK was US$13.75 almost twice the price of the board.?

Adrian VK4KL
Jack Purdum
 

I just sent out another wave of boards yesterday and had a little heart-to-heart with my local post office about the high cost of sending to other countries. I also told them I sent two boards to different foreign countries from another PO and they took the boards. However, one did come back. She said I can try sending a board sandwiched between two heavy-stock pieces of cardboard and it might make it. Honestly, I'm not sure what to do.?

Bill, VK7MX, is going to order a bunch of boards and make them available to Australian and New Zealand hams at a price that should be noticeably lower than I can ship them from here. I don't know about Europe or how expensive it is to mail between countries there, but perhaps something similar can be done.?

Trust me, I am not getting rich by doing this and I know Bill won't be either. My goal is to create a board that presents more memory resources with enough pins to make it easier for those who want to experiment with the BITX40. Allard has just about maxed-out the Nano, yet many of you have suggested features that would be nice to have, but the remaining Nano resources simply cannot cope with the load. The Arduino MEGA 2560 Pro Mini on my board is a compromise to what I'd really like to do, but it is a fairly low cost option.

So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

From: Adrian <a.futrill@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 11:12 PM
Subject: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

just received the VFO board from Jack W8TEE. All I can say is very nice board and can't wait for the parts to arrive. They say patience is a virtue.....I am not a very patient person.?
Now I feel a little guilty. The board was supplied for US$7.50 postage to VK was US$13.75 almost twice the price of the board.?

Adrian VK4KL



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Ken KM4NFQ
 

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ
 

Hi Jack
It is simple, you can never try to think for other, it is impossible and more complicate you can imagine.
Share all the information included the PCB file and let them use the best way to do it.
The profit never will pay your knowledge and altruism, if someone wants to get your board OK, it is a one way to get it, but if they have other way to do it, "maybe the only possible", to do it, good for them too.
Qrv's
73's Jc


“If you have a penny and I have a penny and we exchange pennies, you still have one cent and I still have one cent.? But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange ideas, you now have two ideas and I now have two ideas.”?

Mr. Juan Carlos Berberena Gonzalez, BSc.
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2017-06-13 11:28 GMT-04:00 Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>:

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ
Jack Purdum
 

I had the same thought. I am in the process of redoing the board because K2ZIA did the initial layout of the board, but he's so busy right now he doesn't have time to mess with it. When the new board is done, I'll post the Gerber files on the group site. I do hope anyone who uses those files does so in the spirit of Open Source.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ




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Ken KM4NFQ
 

Greetings Dr. Purdum,

Don't just release your idea and trust that everyone will adhere
to the Open Source model. Release it under an Open Source license.
A license gives you and others specific rights.

You may be interested in this Open Source Hardware FAQ:



Personally, I am not a big fan of a light gray font on a white background.
It is very difficult for me to read.
I had to copy paste the content of the wed page into a text editor to read it.

In any case, no matter what kind of license you put on the design,
you will have to defend the license in a court of law to make it valid.
Very few individuals have the resources to defend every infraction of a license.

A few electronics designers/distributors release their designs as
Open Source Hardware and Software; Adafruit and SparkFun are a couple.
Both of them seem to be thriving?

The worst-case scenario is that the Chinese will produce the board
for less than what you are asking for it, and offer free shipping to boot.

I think you have a great idea, and I wish you All The Best.
Ken, KM4NFQ



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I had the same thought. I am in the process of redoing the board because K2ZIA did the initial layout of the board, but he's so busy right now he doesn't have time to mess with it. When the new board is done, I'll post the Gerber files on the group site. I do hope anyone who uses those files does so in the spirit of Open Source.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ




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Jack Purdum
 

Hi Ken:

Yes, it would be under the OS License Agreements. As I said before, my goal is to get as many of you messing around with microcontrollers and the associated code as I can, and this board brings out a bunch of I/O pins that you can easily play with. With 54 I/O pins and 256K of memory, some of you are going to come up with some really neat stuff that we hope you'll share with us.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

Greetings Dr. Purdum,

Don't just release your idea and trust that everyone will adhere
to the Open Source model. Release it under an Open Source license.
A license gives you and others specific rights.

You may be interested in this Open Source Hardware FAQ:



Personally, I am not a big fan of a light gray font on a white background.
It is very difficult for me to read.
I had to copy paste the content of the wed page into a text editor to read it.

In any case, no matter what kind of license you put on the design,
you will have to defend the license in a court of law to make it valid.
Very few individuals have the resources to defend every infraction of a license.

A few electronics designers/distributors release their designs as
Open Source Hardware and Software; Adafruit and SparkFun are a couple.
Both of them seem to be thriving?

The worst-case scenario is that the Chinese will produce the board
for less than what you are asking for it, and offer free shipping to boot.

I think you have a great idea, and I wish you All The Best.
Ken, KM4NFQ



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I had the same thought. I am in the process of redoing the board because K2ZIA did the initial layout of the board, but he's so busy right now he doesn't have time to mess with it. When the new board is done, I'll post the Gerber files on the group site. I do hope anyone who uses those files does so in the spirit of Open Source.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ




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I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards. ?I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address. ?I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR
 

Email him directly at remove.dherron@..., but take out the "remove." part. He'll give further instructions.?

I believe he only has one left at this point.?

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter@...> wrote:
I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.? I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address.? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR




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Jack Purdum
 

Use?

????econjack@...?

at PayPal. Make sure you leave your shipping address and the number of boards you want as part of your payment.

Jack, W8TEE


From: "Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io" <bwbangerter@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards. ?I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address. ?I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR



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Jack Purdum
 

Andrew:

I'm not sure what you saying here, as he was asking about my PCB...or at least I thought he was. If so, I still have over 25 left.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Andrew Krause <andrew.krause@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

Email him directly at remove.dherron@..., but take out the "remove." part. He'll give further instructions.?

I believe he only has one left at this point.?

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter@...> wrote:
I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.? I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address.? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR



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General Class Amateur Radio License: KM4ZJO
andrew.krause@...
(404) 732-2369






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Vince Vielhaber
 

He's got you mixed up with Dan and his AGC boards.

Vince.

Andrew:
I'm not sure what you saying here, as he was asking about my PCB...or at
least I thought he was. If so, I still have over 25 left.
Jack, W8TEE

From: Andrew Krause <andrew.krause@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

Email him directly at remove.dherron@..., but take out the "remove."
part. He'll give further instructions.??
I believe he only has one left at this point.??
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io
<bwbangerter@...> wrote:

I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.?? I know
it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the
PayPal address.?? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I
just can't find it! ??

Ben, K0IKR



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Andrew KrauseGeneral Class Amateur Radio License: KM4ZJO
PGP Public Key / Bitcoin Addressandrew.krause@...
(404) 732-2369






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Jack do you still have Boards available?

El El mar, 1 de ago. de 2017 a las 09:41, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter=[email protected]> escribió:

I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.? I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address.? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR

Jack Purdum
 

Yes. They are $7.50 pp in the US. Make payment via PayPal to:

econjack@...

Be sure to leave your shipping address when you make your payment. You can get a second board for $13.50...up to 4 boards @$6 each. More than that and the post goes up.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Fede <sierpien@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

Jack do you still have Boards available?

El El mar, 1 de ago. de 2017 a las 09:41, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter=[email protected]> escribió:
I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.? I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address.? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR



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Jack, I just sent you some paypal funds for a VFO board, thanks KC5RT

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

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Yes. They are $7.50 pp in the US. Make payment via PayPal to:

?

econjack@...

?

Be sure to leave your shipping address when you make your payment. You can get a second board for $13.50...up to 4 boards @$6 each. More than that and the post goes up.

?

Jack, W8TEE

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From: Fede <sierpien@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

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Jack do you still have Boards available?

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El El mar, 1 de ago. de 2017 a las 09:41, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter=[email protected]> escribió:

I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.? I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address.? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR

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Jack Purdum
 

You didn't send a shipping address?

Jack, W8TEE


From: Fred via Groups.Io <fgk9@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

Jack, I just sent you some paypal funds for a VFO board, thanks KC5RT
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board
?
Yes. They are $7.50 pp in the US. Make payment via PayPal to:
?
econjack@...
?
Be sure to leave your shipping address when you make your payment. You can get a second board for $13.50...up to 4 boards @$6 each. More than that and the post goes up.
?
Jack, W8TEE
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From: Fede <sierpien@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board
?
Jack do you still have Boards available?
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El El mar, 1 de ago. de 2017 a las 09:41, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter=[email protected]> escribió:
I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.? I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address.? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR
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Send to your direct email just now.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

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You didn't send a shipping address?

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Jack, W8TEE

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From: Fred via Groups.Io <fgk9@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

?

Jack, I just sent you some paypal funds for a VFO board, thanks KC5RT

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

?

Yes. They are $7.50 pp in the US. Make payment via PayPal to:

?

econjack@...

?

Be sure to leave your shipping address when you make your payment. You can get a second board for $13.50...up to 4 boards @$6 each. More than that and the post goes up.

?

Jack, W8TEE

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From: Fede <sierpien@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

?

Jack do you still have Boards available?

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El El mar, 1 de ago. de 2017 a las 09:41, Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter=[email protected]> escribió:

I want to order one of Jack Purdum's vfo/display mother boards.? I know it costs $7.50 and can be ordered through PayPal, but I cannot find the PayPal address.? I am sure it has been posted, possibly many times, but I just can't find it! ?

Ben, K0IKR

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Jack, ?I really want to buy one of your VFO boards. ?But every message I see has the email address truncated. So I have no idea what eBay address to make my request. ?All I have is econjack@... ? Can you somehow provide the rest of the email address? ?QRZ shows you with a Yahoo address. ? Maybe phonetically?would be needed on here? ?Then again maybe I'm living under a rock?

Joe Loucka ?AG4QC ?
email address = Alpha Golf 4 Queen Charlie at Alpha Golf 4 Queen Charlie dot com?
 

Hi Jack. I too would like to purchase two of the VFO boards as I have gathered most of the required parts together. However I am live in the UK and get the impression that the postal charges will be? high. Please would you let me know what the total cost will be for two boards and how I pay you via PayPal.
Thanks in advance.
Terry Young G1FXM
Jack Purdum
 

I try to mail them first class tomorrow.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Terry Young <terry@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

Hi Jack. I too would like to purchase two of the VFO boards as I have gathered most of the required parts together. However I am live in the UK and get the impression that the postal charges will be? high. Please would you let me know what the total cost will be for two boards and how I pay you via PayPal.
Thanks in advance.
Terry Young G1FXM



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