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SDR as Waterfall display
brad martin
I noticed that the CEC firmware has an SDR mode but this seems to be where the audio as as well are transmitted to the SDR and handled there.? Seems to be a good method for digital or recording but is there a way to just use the SDR as a waterfall display and still have the radio function as normal (i.e. have audio come out the radio speakers)? Brad ![]() |
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I have not tried it,but from the circuit description the first conversion is at 45 MHz.? I would try laying a short insulated wire near Q10.? You may even be able to tap off the emitter of q12 with a low value capacitor.? Then tune the SDR ( I assume we are talking the about $ 15 TV dongle, but does not matter)? to around 45 MHz.?? There may be more out now, but the two that I bought a number of years ago, one goes from about 25 MHz up and the other starts at 50 some MHz. de ku4pt On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:06 PM, brad martin <emclinux@...> wrote:
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brad martin
I think mine bottoms out at 52mhz but I can probably put the rf through the direct sample mod on the rtlsdr. I assume if I transmit that the RF is not going to go directly into the sdr as in the rf out is a different path
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On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:42 PM Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@...> wrote:
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If you have a dongle capable of direct sampling, or, an UpConverter you can tap the antenna between K1 and K3.? This will give the dongle full bandwidth whereas KD8CEC's method presents only the IF bandwith to the dongle.? Tapping between the two relays will take the input to the dongle to ground when transmitting.? So far (2 weeks or so) I have had no issues.? In my case, I have an up converter and dongle permanently mounted inside the case.? I also have put in a 4 port mini usb hub to plug the dongle and the raduino into.? That way I only have 1 usb connection coming out of the radio. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:15 PM brad martin <emclinux@...> wrote: I think mine bottoms out at 52mhz but I can probably put the rf through the direct sample mod on the rtlsdr. I assume if I transmit that the RF is not going to go directly into the sdr as in the rf out is a different path |
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So I¡¯ve actually done this¡ I used this SDR:? ?? which tunes down to 24 MHz.? I tapped into the uBITx IF at TP14 on the rev4 schematic¡ before the 45 MHz roofing filter so the IF spectrum is still wide banded¡ used a 5pf cap as not to load the IF.? I ran that into an IF amplifier made from a MC1350P circuit for 45 MHz right out of the app note.? The response from 1-30 MHz is not flat, so I took an analog pin from the Arduino to set the AGC on the MC1350P and developed a table that generates an AGC voltage for each band as selected that is calibrated basis a known input signal to give dBm on the waterfall.? The software I used for the spectrum display is Freq-show from here: .? It works very well.? I will post a video when my ubitx is back together (currently adding¡ yes¡ a ¡°second¡± receiver¡ ohhhhh!).? I¡¯m not an expert coder, but once this Python app can be coded into the Teensy, I think we have an all-in-one solution! ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph Mowery
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] SDR as Waterfall display ? I have not tried it,but from the circuit description the first conversion is at 45 MHz.? I would try laying a short insulated wire near Q10.? You may even be able to tap off the emitter of q12 with a low value capacitor.? ? Then tune the SDR ( I assume we are talking the about $ 15 TV dongle, but does not matter)? to around 45 MHz.?? ? There may be more out now, but the two that I bought a number of years ago, one goes from about 25 MHz up and the other starts at 50 some MHz. ? de ku4pt ? ? On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:06 PM, brad martin <emclinux@...> wrote:
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This mod works great!.? ?I have been using it with a similar upconverter / dongle with the? SDR software? for several weeks--- works very well... The tap? / place Gregory found is perfect and? ?the pictures he has taken to show exactly where to hookup made it a very easy mod...
So far it? has protected my sdr rx hardware -??My current ubitx tx outputs? range from 15 watts on 80, around 12 watts and? 10 on 20 mtrs .
Thanks Gregory!!
Joe VE1BWV On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:46 PM, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBTW on transmit you get the transmitted signal spectrum.? Quite nice! (I do reduce the gain on transmit!).? FreqShow runs on a Pi¡ needs to be moved to a Teensy. ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of K9HZ ? So I¡¯ve actually done this¡ I used this SDR:? ?? which tunes down to 24 MHz.? I tapped into the uBITx IF at TP14 on the rev4 schematic¡ before the 45 MHz roofing filter so the IF spectrum is still wide banded¡ used a 5pf cap as not to load the IF.? I ran that into an IF amplifier made from a MC1350P circuit for 45 MHz right out of the app note.? The response from 1-30 MHz is not flat, so I took an analog pin from the Arduino to set the AGC on the MC1350P and developed a table that generates an AGC voltage for each band as selected that is calibrated basis a known input signal to give dBm on the waterfall.? The software I used for the spectrum display is Freq-show from here: .? It works very well.? I will post a video when my ubitx is back together (currently adding¡ yes¡ a ¡°second¡± receiver¡ ohhhhh!).? I¡¯m not an expert coder, but once this Python app can be coded into the Teensy, I think we have an all-in-one solution! ? |