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Sbitx V2


bill steffey NY9H
 

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subject change ;;;;

On 4/9/2023 5:22 PM, bill steffey NY9H wrote:

Hi Farhan,

great video on the new radio? ..... now that you have the PCB & cabinet done, any guess on availability and pricing ????

again? fantastic work...??? look to seeing it at Dayton FDIM


bill ny9h


On 4/9/2023 2:50 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:

The wm8731 codec is controlled by the kernel, it is too complicated to do in by ourselves. Hence, it stays on the I2C bus.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 12:14 AM Max via <kg4pid=[email protected]> wrote:
Why couldn't the?WM8731 be put on the bit-banged port instead? And put all the other I2C devices on the primary bus that the OS knows about. Did the?WM8731 not like that either?

Max

On Sunday, April 9, 2023, 11:06:55 AM CDT, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:


Ok,
Here is the long explanation. It starts with the WM8731, the audio codec. This is an a-social fella, doesn't want anyone else on his I2C bus. So when we started to add Si5351 on the I2C bus of rapsberry pi, WM8731 stopped playing along.
Now, our only option was to move the Si5351 to a second I2C bus. But, there was no second bus supported on the raspberry pi pins that we could use. So, we wrote our own software emulated I2C protocol on another pair GPIO pins.
As a result, many devices like the si5351, the real time clock and the swr bridge (there is one in the sbitxv2) are on a new bus.
The swr bridge is actually an ATTINY85, a 8 pin cutie that can be programmed via the Arduino IDE. This chip reads the reflected and forward voltages off the inline swr bridge. It has I2C address of 0x08. That is the one you see failing on your build, because the chip is not there. Why did I choose 0x08 address for the swr bridge? That is because I started to check out the ATTINY85 using an example from the arduino ide which used 0x08 as the I2C address, I never changed it afterwards.
- f

On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 9:20 PM n8yg via <n8yg=[email protected]> wrote:
Sometimes I feel like to solve this problem I would have to spend a week on it with the radio out of the box. However with Jack's dead failure it may help solve the intermittent problem by debugging it. Right now I'm getting ready to shift to outdoors mode..and other interests have absorbed me.
Do you guys suppose it's a communications failure? Jack, do you have i2c decode on a scope?
73
Brad


 

We should have it up for sale in the next 48 hours.


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 2:57 AM bill steffey NY9H <ny9h@...> wrote:

subject change ;;;;

On 4/9/2023 5:22 PM, bill steffey NY9H wrote:

Hi Farhan,

great video on the new radio? ..... now that you have the PCB & cabinet done, any guess on availability and pricing ????

again? fantastic work...??? look to seeing it at Dayton FDIM


bill ny9h


On 4/9/2023 2:50 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:

The wm8731 codec is controlled by the kernel, it is too complicated to do in by ourselves. Hence, it stays on the I2C bus.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 12:14 AM Max via <kg4pid=[email protected]> wrote:
Why couldn't the?WM8731 be put on the bit-banged port instead? And put all the other I2C devices on the primary bus that the OS knows about. Did the?WM8731 not like that either?

Max

On Sunday, April 9, 2023, 11:06:55 AM CDT, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:


Ok,
Here is the long explanation. It starts with the WM8731, the audio codec. This is an a-social fella, doesn't want anyone else on his I2C bus. So when we started to add Si5351 on the I2C bus of rapsberry pi, WM8731 stopped playing along.
Now, our only option was to move the Si5351 to a second I2C bus. But, there was no second bus supported on the raspberry pi pins that we could use. So, we wrote our own software emulated I2C protocol on another pair GPIO pins.
As a result, many devices like the si5351, the real time clock and the swr bridge (there is one in the sbitxv2) are on a new bus.
The swr bridge is actually an ATTINY85, a 8 pin cutie that can be programmed via the Arduino IDE. This chip reads the reflected and forward voltages off the inline swr bridge. It has I2C address of 0x08. That is the one you see failing on your build, because the chip is not there. Why did I choose 0x08 address for the swr bridge? That is because I started to check out the ATTINY85 using an example from the arduino ide which used 0x08 as the I2C address, I never changed it afterwards.
- f

On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 9:20 PM n8yg via <n8yg=[email protected]> wrote:
Sometimes I feel like to solve this problem I would have to spend a week on it with the radio out of the box. However with Jack's dead failure it may help solve the intermittent problem by debugging it. Right now I'm getting ready to shift to outdoors mode..and other interests have absorbed me.
Do you guys suppose it's a communications failure? Jack, do you have i2c decode on a scope?
73
Brad


 

Will the V2 board work in the V1 case? Will it be available separately?

Thanx.?
Dan KD3CEU


 

Dan,
The software is fully compatible with v1, except for the swr/power reading. You just need to finish your upgrade 2.
- f

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 4:11 AM Doc Sarvis via <kd5ceu=[email protected]> wrote:
Will the V2 board work in the V1 case? Will it be available separately?

Thanx.?
Dan KD3CEU


 

Will it also be possible to buy the new V2 version but in the original large V1 box please? Many of us like real radio instead of door opener size¡­
Thanks
Petr


 

Petr,
You will be able to buy just the board. It comes with the heatsink mounted. You can install it in any box. See the picture attached.
That said, the v2 front panel is exactly the same size as the developers edition, it is just half as deep.


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 3:22 PM Petr Ourednik <indians@...> wrote:
Will it also be possible to buy the new V2 version but in the original large V1 box please? Many of us like real radio instead of door opener size¡­
Thanks
Petr


 

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Good deal!

Looking to see how this works out. ?

Gordon KX4Z?


On Apr 10, 2023, at 09:30, Petr Ourednik <indians@...> wrote:

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Many thanks Farhan,

sounds good but it would be great to have chance to buy it as full kit but with beautiful V1 grey housing. It looks really nice and pre-arranged and looks perfectly.?

br - Petr


 

Any hints on pricing for the various options?


 

Yeah, ehsan is working the excel, we will have it by eod.
In a nutshell, the assembled price will still be 499, 399 without the rpi and possibly around 250 usd for the board with wires and the encoder.
- f

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 7:57 PM Jim <winickyj@...> wrote:
Any hints on pricing for the various options?


 

these are pretty big numbers for me.? :-(
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Gyula HA3HZ


 

Gyula,
Our original plan was to sell this for 299. Unfortunately, just the raspberry pi and the display cost 200 usd!
The board itself is 270 USD. The board is twice the size of ubitx, all components including the toroids had to be scaled up for higher power.
I still hope when the raspberry pi, display and si5351 prices cool down, we should be able to bring the prices down accordingly.
- f


On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 1:01 PM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
these are pretty big numbers for me.? :-(
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Gyula HA3HZ


 

Thanks Farhan,

most important in case of basic kit purchasing instead of full kit are enclosures V1 or V2. They are really precise, customized and hard to make beautiful housings. So it would be great to have them also available for sale separately.
I guess if someone would like to save some bucks then S-board + enclosure is the great option and Pi + LCD can be obtained from different sources.

Thanks,
Petr


 

We can certainly do that!


On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 1:53 PM Petr Ourednik <indians@...> wrote:
Thanks Farhan,

most important in case of basic kit purchasing instead of full kit are enclosures V1 or V2. They are really precise, customized and hard to make beautiful housings. So it would be great to have them also available for sale separately.
I guess if someone would like to save some bucks then S-board + enclosure is the great option and Pi + LCD can be obtained from different sources.

Thanks,
Petr


 

Thanks Farhan for nice vid about SSB. I really can't wait for CW operation video too.
Just one think > did I understood well that there is no good quality speaker installed as it is in UBITX V6 or SBITX V1 please?

- Petr


 

Thanks for the reply. I just ordered it and I'm wondering what type of microphone you recommend for the Sbitx?
I read solutions from several experimenters. I'm interested in what you include with the full version.
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Gyula HA3HZ


 

We haven't "officially" opened up the sales yet! I hope to do it tonight.
- f

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:35?PM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I just ordered it and I'm wondering what type of microphone you recommend for the Sbitx?
I read solutions from several experimenters. I'm interested in what you include with the full version.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


 

Just one think > did I understood well that there is no good quality speaker installed as it is in UBITX V6 or SBITX V1 please?
Or am I missing something? :)
- P


 

If you have a mic from an old ubitx, that should work just fine.
- f

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:39?PM Ashhar Farhan via <farhanbox=[email protected]> wrote:
We haven't "officially" opened up the sales yet! I hope to do it tonight.
- f

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:35?PM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I just ordered it and I'm wondering what type of microphone you recommend for the Sbitx?
I read solutions from several experimenters. I'm interested in what you include with the full version.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


 

We used a television speaker, they are compact but punchy.
- f

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:50?PM Petr Ourednik <indians@...> wrote:
Just one think > did I understood well that there is no good quality speaker installed as it is in UBITX V6 or SBITX V1 please?
Or am I missing something? :)
- P


 

OK, so it is some speaker installed...
I did not seens it in your vid. :)
Thanks,
- p