P.S. For those who don't get attached pictures, they're also in the group photos under G0UPL/recycle
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-----Original Message----- From: Hans Summers Sent: 08 February 2005 17:56 To: 'BITX20@...' Subject: OT: Recycling monitors Latest news, following Paolo's influence: I have commenced dismantling of the previously mentioned 19-inch DELL monitor, which the IT department failed to remove from the cupboard next to my desk here in the office! Inside I found a secondary RF shielded box made from thin sheet metal. Very difficult to remove. Attached are the pictures so far. You can see that I managed to open 1 side of the RF shield box and see the back of the PCB. Still haven't glimpsed the front of the PCB. I will make a page on my site about this, following Paulo's example, and list the useful things I find inside! Later, I will add links to that pages, to other projects on my website, to show where I used the parts. Recycling is fun! I've been using old recycled parts for all of my electronics hobby since I was 5 or 6 years old. Now it's time to document this side of things! 73 for now Hans G0UPL -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Cravero as2594 [mailto:pcravero@...] Sent: 03 February 2005 17:52 To: BITX20@... Subject: Re: [BITX20] Stability? Hans Summers wrote: IT department still haven't taken it, I might be found harvesting useful components from the monitor for homebrew projects! The wire in the field deflection coils are useful for winding coils from. There must be other useful stuff in there too! Been there! :-) And written about it. See Also featured: VCR, CD-ROM and laptop. One day I will add TV and floppy-disk drives as well. Paolo IK1ZYW PS: when I dismantled that monitor I was not yet into winding coils, so I just kept the inductors, which I am now using as wire source. PPS: hot-air guns are a great tool for part scrounging! (but you MUST do it in open-air and dry WX ;-) ) Yahoo! Groups Links
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Ok, last off topic post from me on this subject... I completed the dismantling of the monitor and posted the pictures on my web page at . Just look at this long list of all the nice components I found inside! There's enough here to build a very nice CW transceiver and other useful stuff!
73 Hans G0UPL
Integrated Circuits:
LM324 Quad Operational Amplifier (SMD) KA358 Dual operational Amplifier 74HCF4011 Quad 2-input NAND gate (SMD) 74HCT02 Quad 2-input NOR gate (SMD) 74HC86 Quad 2-input XOR gate (SMD) 74HCT74 Dual D-type Flip Flop (SMD) 74HCF4053 Tripple 2-channel multiplexer (SMD) UC3842 Current mode PWM controller TDA9105 Deflection processor LM1283 140MHz RGB Video Amplifier MAS9181 Eight discrete 8-bit Digital-Analogue converters in one IC, I2C programmed CVA4401 Triple 400MHz buffer CR6727 Triple hybrid video amplifier LM2940 12V 1A Voltage Regulator 7805 12V 1A Voltage Regulator Several other custom IC's which I couldn't find datasheets for on the internet
Other semiconductors:
SLA5038 5-MOSFET array Several LARGE rectifier diodes Several zener diodes Numerous small signal diodes, look like 1N4148, both SMD and normal Numerous small transistors, both SMD and normal Several IRF-series TO220 MOSFET's, e.g. IRF620 Several BD-series bipolar power transistors e.g. BD135 5mm green LED
Other components:
Numerous resistors, both SMD and normal, various power ratings Numerous capacitors, both SMD and normal, including many useful electrolytics Notable LARGE 330uF 385V smoothing capacitor in the mains rectifier Two small neon bulbs, used as spark gaps 8MHz quartz crystal, HC49 case Numerous inductors and transformers, but no toroids 12V Relay, dual pole changeover Numerous preset potentiometers Five small push buttons Approx 10 metres of shielded cable, i.e. 5 shielded conductors in the cable
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-----Original Message----- From: Hans Summers Sent: 08 February 2005 17:57 To: 'BITX20@...' Subject: RE: Recycling monitors P.S. For those who don't get attached pictures, they're also in the group photos under G0UPL/recycle 73 Hans -----Original Message----- From: Hans Summers Sent: 08 February 2005 17:56 To: 'BITX20@...' Subject: OT: Recycling monitors Latest news, following Paolo's influence: I have commenced dismantling of the previously mentioned 19-inch DELL monitor, which the IT department failed to remove from the cupboard next to my desk here in the office! Inside I found a secondary RF shielded box made from thin sheet metal. Very difficult to remove. Attached are the pictures so far. You can see that I managed to open 1 side of the RF shield box and see the back of the PCB. Still haven't glimpsed the front of the PCB. I will make a page on my site about this, following Paulo's example, and list the useful things I find inside! Later, I will add links to that pages, to other projects on my website, to show where I used the parts. Recycling is fun! I've been using old recycled parts for all of my electronics hobby since I was 5 or 6 years old. Now it's time to document this side of things! 73 for now Hans G0UPL -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Cravero as2594 [mailto:pcravero@...] Sent: 03 February 2005 17:52 To: BITX20@... Subject: Re: [BITX20] Stability? Hans Summers wrote: IT department still haven't taken it, I might be found harvesting useful components from the monitor for homebrew projects! The wire in the field deflection coils are useful for winding coils from. There must be other useful stuff in there too! Been there! :-) And written about it. See Also featured: VCR, CD-ROM and laptop. One day I will add TV and floppy-disk drives as well. Paolo IK1ZYW PS: when I dismantled that monitor I was not yet into winding coils, so I just kept the inductors, which I am now using as wire source. PPS: hot-air guns are a great tool for part scrounging! (but you MUST do it in open-air and dry WX ;-) ) Yahoo! Groups Links
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Nice picts Hans,
Sure it is possible to make a CW?tx with your retained monitor parts.
I saw voltage regualtors,?an IRF MOSFET, splendid for a several watts pa stage and some nice 74hct... ic's. Good enough to make a nice stable oscillator with an x-tal.
I wonder how many used fine working components are thrown away on daily basis, worldwide. This must be an enormous figure and what a waste of energy, material, effort,...
The average age of a PC these days is maybe 3 years, then it's thrown away...
bye
ron
pa2rf Hans Summers wrote:
Ok, last off topic post from me on this subject... I completed the dismantling of the monitor and posted the pictures on my web page at . Just look at this long list of all the nice components I found inside! There's enough here to build a very nice CW transceiver and other useful stuff!
73 Hans G0UPL
Integrated Circuits:
LM324 Quad Operational Amplifier (SMD) KA358 Dual operational Amplifier 74HCF4011 Quad 2-input NAND gate (SMD) 74HCT02 Quad 2-input NOR gate (SMD) 74HC86 Quad 2-input XOR gate (SMD) 74HCT74 Dual D-type Flip Flop (SMD) 74HCF4053 Tripple 2-channel multiplexer (SMD) UC3842 Current mode PWM
controller TDA9105 Deflection processor LM1283 140MHz RGB Video Amplifier MAS9181 Eight discrete 8-bit Digital-Analogue converters in one IC, I2C programmed CVA4401 Triple 400MHz buffer CR6727 Triple hybrid video amplifier LM2940 12V 1A Voltage Regulator 7805 12V 1A Voltage Regulator Several other custom IC's which I couldn't find datasheets for on the internet
Other semiconductors:
SLA5038 5-MOSFET array Several LARGE rectifier diodes Several zener diodes Numerous small signal diodes, look like 1N4148, both SMD and normal Numerous small transistors, both SMD and normal Several IRF-series TO220 MOSFET's, e.g. IRF620 Several BD-series bipolar power transistors e.g. BD135 5mm green LED
Other components:
Numerous resistors, both SMD and normal, various power ratings Numerous capacitors, both SMD and normal, including many useful electrolytics Notable LARGE 330uF 385V smoothing capacitor in the mains
rectifier Two small neon bulbs, used as spark gaps 8MHz quartz crystal, HC49 case Numerous inductors and transformers, but no toroids 12V Relay, dual pole changeover Numerous preset potentiometers Five small push buttons Approx 10 metres of shielded cable, i.e. 5 shielded conductors in the cable
-----Original Message----- From: Hans Summers Sent: 08 February 2005 17:57 To: 'BITX20@...' Subject: RE: Recycling monitors
P.S. For those who don't get attached pictures, they're also in the group photos under G0UPL/recycle
73 Hans
-----Original Message----- From: Hans Summers Sent: 08 February 2005 17:56 To: 'BITX20@...' Subject: OT: Recycling monitors
Latest news, following Paolo's influence: I have commenced dismantling of the
previously mentioned 19-inch DELL monitor, which the IT department failed to remove from the cupboard next to my desk here in the office!
Inside I found a secondary RF shielded box made from thin sheet metal. Very difficult to remove. Attached are the pictures so far. You can see that I managed to open 1 side of the RF shield box and see the back of the PCB. Still haven't glimpsed the front of the PCB. I will make a page on my site about this, following Paulo's example, and list the useful things I find inside! Later, I will add links to that pages, to other projects on my website, to show where I used the parts. Recycling is fun! I've been using old recycled parts for all of my electronics hobby since I was 5 or 6 years old. Now it's time to document this side of things!
73 for now
Hans G0UPL
-----Original Message----- From: Paolo Cravero as2594
[mailto:pcravero@...] Sent: 03 February 2005 17:52 To: BITX20@... Subject: Re: [BITX20] Stability?
Hans Summers wrote:
> IT department still haven't taken it, I might be found harvesting > useful components from the monitor for homebrew projects! The wire in > the field deflection coils are useful for winding coils from. There > must be other useful stuff in there too!
Been there! :-) And written about it. See
Also featured: VCR, CD-ROM and laptop. One day I will add TV and floppy-disk drives as well.
Paolo IK1ZYW
PS: when I dismantled that monitor I was not yet into winding coils, so I just kept the inductors, which I am now using as wire source.
PPS: hot-air guns are a great tool for part scrounging! (but you MUST do it in open-air and dry WX ;-)
)
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Ron
?
I
think it is possible to make a CW transceiver, not just transmitter! There are
op-amps which make audio amplification and filtering easy. Plenty of transistors
for an audio amp. But the oscillator would have to be a VFO not crystal, since
the only crystal in the monitor is 8MHz which is not suitable for an amateur
band. I guess you could pull it down a little and divide by 4 (with the 74HCT74)
and put it at the top of top band. The only lacking thing is any toroids, this
monitor contained NO toroids at all! Plenty of wire for airwounds, and many
inductors and small transformers which might assist.
?
You're
right about the waste! I also have here an "old" IBM Thinkpad laptop borrowed
from my office. This thing must've cost over ?2,000 when new. My XYL used it for
accessing the internet. But something became corrupted and when starting, it
refuses to start Windows 98 in the proper mode (it starts in "safe" mode) and
complains that the file user.exe is missing. So I brought it back to the IT
department. The internal CD drive is not working. The external plug-in floppy
drive is missing. And apparently, this laptop is so old that any other employee
is no longer using this model, so it isn't possible to borrow a floppy drive.
They said it would take much too long to take out the harddrive, plug it into
something else,?and try to repair the file. The computer is so ancient that
it isn't worth spending time fixing, they say. So they lent me a more modern
laptop (but still one which they consider quite old). So this IBM Thinkpad
laptop is now mine for dismantling. Just out of interest, I was curious about
what was considered "ancient" so I asked the IT boys how old the Thinkpad is;
the answer:?"3 years old"...
?
73
Hans G0UPL
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Nice picts Hans,
Sure it is possible to make a CW?tx with your retained monitor
parts.
I saw voltage regualtors,?an IRF MOSFET, splendid for a several
watts pa stage and some nice 74hct... ic's. Good enough to make a nice stable
oscillator with an x-tal.
I wonder how many used fine working components are thrown away on daily
basis, worldwide. This must be an enormous figure and what a waste of energy,
material, effort,...
The average age of a PC these days is maybe 3 years, then it's thrown
away...
bye
ron
pa2rf Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@...>
wrote:
Ok,
last off topic post from me on this subject... I completed
the dismantling of the monitor and posted the pictures on my web page
at
. Just look at this long list of all the nice components I found inside!
There's enough here to build a very nice CW transceiver and other useful
stuff!
73 Hans G0UPL
Integrated
Circuits:
LM324 Quad Operational Amplifier (SMD) KA358 Dual
operational Amplifier 74HCF4011 Quad 2-input NAND gate (SMD) 74HCT02
Quad 2-input NOR gate (SMD) 74HC86 Quad 2-input XOR gate (SMD) 74HCT74
Dual D-type Flip Flop (SMD) 74HCF4053 Tripple 2-channel multiplexer
(SMD) UC3842 Current mode PWM controller TDA9105 Deflection
processor LM1283 140MHz RGB Video Amplifier MAS9181 Eight discrete
8-bit Digital-Analogue converters in one IC, I2C programmed CVA4401
Triple 400MHz buffer CR6727 Triple hybrid video amplifier LM2940 12V
1A Voltage Regulator 7805 12V 1A Voltage Regulator Several other
custom IC's which I couldn't find datasheets for on
the internet
Other semiconductors:
SLA5038 5-MOSFET
array Several LARGE rectifier diodes Several zener diodes Numerous
small signal diodes, look like 1N4148, both SMD and normal Numerous small
transistors, both SMD and normal Several IRF-series TO220 MOSFET's, e.g.
IRF620 Several BD-series bipolar power transistors e.g. BD135 5mm
green LED
Other components:
Numerous resistors, both SMD and
normal, various power ratings Numerous capacitors, both SMD and normal,
including many useful electrolytics Notable LARGE 330uF 385V smoothing
capacitor in ! the mains rectifier Two small neon bulbs, used as spark
gaps 8MHz quartz crystal, HC49 case Numerous inductors and
transformers, but no toroids 12V Relay, dual pole changeover Numerous
preset potentiometers Five small push buttons Approx 10 metres of
shielded cable, i.e. 5 shielded conductors in the
cable
-----Original Message----- From: Hans Summers
Sent: 08 February 2005 17:57 To: 'BITX20@...' Subject:
RE: Recycling monitors
P.S. For those who don't get attached
pictures, they're also in the group photos
under G0UPL/recycle
73 Hans
-----Original
Message----- From: Hans Summers Sent: 08 February 2005 17:56 To:
'BITX20@...' Subject: OT: Recycling
monitors
Latest news, following Paolo's influence: I have
commenced dismantling of the previously mentioned 19-inch DELL monitor,
which the IT department failed to remove from the cupboard next to my
desk here in the office!
Inside I found a secondary RF shielded box
made from thin sheet metal. Very difficult to remove. Attached are the
pictures so far. You can see that I managed to open 1 side of the RF
shield box and see the back of the PCB. Still haven't glimpsed the front
of the PCB. I will make a page on my site about this, following Paulo's
example, and list the useful things I find inside! Later, I will add
links to that pages, to other projects on my website, to show where I
used the parts. Recycling is fun! I've been using old recycled parts for
all of my electronics hobby since I was 5 or 6 years old. Now it's time
to document this side of things!
73 for now
Hans G0UPL
-----Original
Message----- From: Paolo Cravero as2594 [mailto:pcravero@...]
Sent: 03 February 2005 17:52 To: BITX20@... Subject:
Re: [BITX20] Stability?
Hans Summers wrote:
> IT
department still haven't taken it, I might be found harvesting >
useful components from the monitor for homebrew projects! The wire in
> the field deflection coils are useful for winding coils from. There
> must be other useful stuff in there too!
Been there! :-) And
written about it. See
Also
featured: VCR, CD-ROM and laptop. One day I will add TV and floppy-disk
drives as well.
Paolo IK1ZYW
PS: when I dismantled that
monitor I was not yet into winding coils, so I just kept the inductors,
which I am now using as wire source.
PPS: hot-air guns are a great
tool for part scrounging! (but you MUST do it in open-air and dry ! WX
;-) )
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Ha!! 3 years. that is also what our IT dept in my office considers 'old ' (obsolete they say). Yes you are right, opamps make life easy and a simple dc receiver should not be a problem. My hands are itching to demolish my DELL 15" monitor in front of me now and convert it into a QRP transceiver:-)) What's old? At home i use a 5 year old Celeron 266MHz and it runs MixW.2, CWget, CWtype and more ham programms very smoothly. And it has an extensive 128 Meg RAM. I remember the days I bought my first computer, a sinclair ZX81 for almost 400 guilders (200 euro) at that time (earlie 80's ??) a huge amount. Everybody was so happy with 16k ram....!! So we are really spoilt these days with all kinds of fancy 2nd hand equipment and all the free ( :-) ) software from Bill G. In spite of all the complaining about windows he is one of the few persons who's been able to standardize specs worldwide (apart from some Mac & linux machines). Great job! Nobody has been able yet to launch a worldwide standardized AC MAINS voltage..... And about demolishing equipment. Try a color TV set! I did a couple of times. A real goldmine. For example I made a panorama receiver (low budget spectrum analyser) using a Philips UV6.. tuner derived from a TVset. It works great in the 47-860 MHz range. If you like, see my description on my website: --> meten ---> vhf..panorama ontvanger I'll guess i will continue with my work now... that's what i am paid for... By the way, nice chatting with you Hans 73 ron pa2rf --- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Ron
I think it is possible to make a CW transceiver, not just
transmitter! There are op-amps which make audio amplification and filtering easy. Plenty of transistors for an audio amp. But the oscillator would have to be a VFO not crystal, since the only crystal in the monitor is 8MHz which is not suitable for an amateur band. I guess you could pull it down a little and divide by 4 (with the 74HCT74) and put it at the top of top band. The only lacking thing is any toroids, this monitor contained NO toroids at all! Plenty of wire for airwounds, and many inductors and small transformers which might assist. You're right about the waste! I also have here an "old" IBM
Thinkpad laptop borrowed from my office. This thing must've cost over ?2,000 when new. My XYL used it for accessing the internet. But something became corrupted and when starting, it refuses to start Windows 98 in the proper mode (it starts in "safe" mode) and complains that the file user.exe is missing. So I brought it back to the IT department. The internal CD drive is not working. The external plug-in floppy drive is missing. And apparently, this laptop is so old that any other employee is no longer using this model, so it isn't possible to borrow a floppy drive. They said it would take much too long to take out the harddrive, plug it into something else, and try to repair the file. The computer is so ancient that it isn't worth spending time fixing, they say. So they lent me a more modern laptop (but still one which they consider quite old). So this IBM Thinkpad laptop is now mine for dismantling. Just out of interest, I was curious about what was considered "ancient" so I asked the IT boys how old the Thinkpad is; the answer: "3 years old"...
73 Hans G0UPL
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I was thinking of a polyphase direct conversion receiver, for single signal reception! The monitor contains a 74HC4053 tripple 2-1 Multiplexer. I feel that can be made into a Tayloe detector! The 74HC74 can generate the necessary quadrature oscillator switching signals. Enough R's and C's for a simple passive polyphase network. It even has a nice 12V 2-pole changeover relay, perfect for transmit/receive switching! Since switches are lacking, there can be no transmit switch and so the rig must be semi-QSK. Plenty of MOSFET's are available for a PA.
At home I used a 100MHz Pentium for 9 years. It was fine. If all you want is Internet, email and perhaps a spreadsheet or word document, it does the job! My XYL forced me to get rid of it because she said it was too old. Well, I said yes it's old but look, it works fine and it does everything we need it to. But no, she still insisted it was "too old" so it had to go. She wanted to buy a new one, but she hasn't got around to it and that's why she has to use the borrowed office laptop!
Around me here in the office everyone has 2.8GHz machines. But what do they use them for? Most of them are just watching prices, graphs, writing emails, documents or spreadsheets, looking at the internet. Nothing that my old 100MHz Pentium couldn't have done! My PC is 3.2GHz but that's because I run some heavy calculations and simulations on it so I need the CPU power.
I did take apart plenty of colour TV's years ago, but not for some years. Video players are a good source of RF parts too. I have visited your website several times before and I saw your panoramic receiver, very nice! By the way, your website doesn't work properly in the Mozilla Firefox browser. The background and images don't show. But I still have Internet Explorer installed here so I could view it fine.
I had a ZX81 too. It was given to me by my late Grandfather: the old fellow in his late 70's had embraced the exciting new world of computing with open arms and before long, was programming in BASIC and machine code. He had been a lifelong electrician on the British Railways. He gave me his ZX81 when he upgraded to a ZX Spectrum the following year (1982?). The ZX81 had 1K of memory and a 16K expansion pack. But I modified my ZX81. I added a real keyboard, ?5 from a surplus store. Also a 32K memory board (16 2K RAM chips!), ?2 from the same store! The keyboard had hall-effect magnetic proximity switches not real contacts. I had to build an interface consisting of 16 transistors (from old circuit boards), to connect it in place of the ZX81's matrix keyboard. See a picture: . The wooden board at the back held the ZX81 board on one side, and the modified memory PCB on the reverse. So my ZX81 actually had 32K of memory! If I remember right, it would perform its own check on switch on, and recognise how much memory was connected. Happy times!
I should continue with my work too... But most of my colleagues went to MIAMI this week on a company conference (sounds like a feeble excuse for a big party) and left me and a handful of others behind to "hold the fort". I am not happy. That's why I wasted time yesterday on important matters such as monitor dismantling ;-)
73 Hans G0UPL
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-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@...] Sent: 10 February 2005 09:20 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors Ha!! 3 years. that is also what our IT dept in my office considers 'old ' (obsolete they say). Yes you are right, opamps make life easy and a simple dc receiver should not be a problem. My hands are itching to demolish my DELL 15" monitor in front of me now and convert it into a QRP transceiver:-)) What's old? At home i use a 5 year old Celeron 266MHz and it runs MixW.2, CWget, CWtype and more ham programms very smoothly. And it has an extensive 128 Meg RAM. I remember the days I bought my first computer, a sinclair ZX81 for almost 400 guilders (200 euro) at that time (earlie 80's ??) a huge amount. Everybody was so happy with 16k ram....!! So we are really spoilt these days with all kinds of fancy 2nd hand equipment and all the free ( :-) ) software from Bill G. In spite of all the complaining about windows he is one of the few persons who's been able to standardize specs worldwide (apart from some Mac & linux machines). Great job! Nobody has been able yet to launch a worldwide standardized AC MAINS voltage..... And about demolishing equipment. Try a color TV set! I did a couple of times. A real goldmine. For example I made a panorama receiver (low budget spectrum analyser) using a Philips UV6.. tuner derived from a TVset. It works great in the 47-860 MHz range. If you like, see my description on my website: --> meten ---> vhf..panorama ontvanger I'll guess i will continue with my work now... that's what i am paid for... By the way, nice chatting with you Hans 73 ron pa2rf --- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Ron
I think it is possible to make a CW transceiver, not just
transmitter! There are op-amps which make audio amplification and filtering easy. Plenty of transistors for an audio amp. But the oscillator would have to be a VFO not crystal, since the only crystal in the monitor is 8MHz which is not suitable for an amateur band. I guess you could pull it down a little and divide by 4 (with the 74HCT74) and put it at the top of top band. The only lacking thing is any toroids, this monitor contained NO toroids at all! Plenty of wire for airwounds, and many inductors and small transformers which might assist. You're right about the waste! I also have here an "old" IBM
Thinkpad laptop borrowed from my office. This thing must've cost over ?2,000 when new. My XYL used it for accessing the internet. But something became corrupted and when starting, it refuses to start Windows 98 in the proper mode (it starts in "safe" mode) and complains that the file user.exe is missing. So I brought it back to the IT department. The internal CD drive is not working. The external plug-in floppy drive is missing. And apparently, this laptop is so old that any other employee is no longer using this model, so it isn't possible to borrow a floppy drive. They said it would take much too long to take out the harddrive, plug it into something else, and try to repair the file. The computer is so ancient that it isn't worth spending time fixing, they say. So they lent me a more modern laptop (but still one which they consider quite old). So this IBM Thinkpad laptop is now mine for dismantling. Just out of interest, I was curious about what was considered "ancient" so I asked the IT boys how old the Thinkpad is; the answer: "3 years old"...
73 Hans G0UPL
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okidoki Hans,
i'll keep you entertained while your collegues enjoy themselves at the party...
Thanks for info on the mozilla browser. i was not aware of any viewing programs.
now i am?  Saw that about 15% of my visitor use mozilla, so there is something to?improve.
you're far ahead of me with the polyphase rx !?i read about it but never attempted to build something like that.
Fully agree with you about the overrated power of our office pc's; here we do something microsoft office stuff like excel, word, some mailing, surfing and so on. A 300 MHz PC would be good enough, but all of us have 2.4 GHz pentium4 machines....And inspite of this we get network failures all the time...
About the zx81, i did attach a real keyboard with big keys at the time too (i remember it was orange and i put lots of extra codes on it and there was something with a matrix). All this typing of the BASIC codes...pfff.
Later i got the spectrum as well (48K !!) with the rubber keys and 4 functions for each key :-)). That was great fun.
I have put the panorma rx into an old vcr housing and it still works grand.
Ok i have to leave the office for some moments, go down into the hangar to witness a modification on one of the boeing767 aircraft ( i am working for a dutch airliner).
ron
pa2rf
?
Hans Summers wrote:
Ron
I was thinking of a polyphase direct conversion receiver, for single signal reception! The monitor contains a 74HC4053 tripple 2-1 Multiplexer. I feel that can be made into a Tayloe detector! The 74HC74 can generate the necessary quadrature oscillator switching signals. Enough R's and C's for a simple passive polyphase network. It even has a nice 12V 2-pole changeover relay, perfect for transmit/receive switching! Since switches are lacking, there can be no transmit switch and so the rig must be semi-QSK. Plenty of MOSFET's are available for a PA.
At home I used a 100MHz Pentium for 9 years. It was fine. If all you want is Internet, email and perhaps a spreadsheet or word document, it does the job! My XYL forced me to get rid of it because she said it was too old. Well, I said yes it's old but look, it works fine and it does
everything we need it to. But no, she still insisted it was "too old" so it had to go. She wanted to buy a new one, but she hasn't got around to it and that's why she has to use the borrowed office laptop!
Around me here in the office everyone has 2.8GHz machines. But what do they use them for? Most of them are just watching prices, graphs, writing emails, documents or spreadsheets, looking at the internet. Nothing that my old 100MHz Pentium couldn't have done! My PC is 3.2GHz but that's because I run some heavy calculations and simulations on it so I need the CPU power.
I did take apart plenty of colour TV's years ago, but not for some years. Video players are a good source of RF parts too. I have visited your website several times before and I saw your panoramic receiver, very nice! By the way, your website doesn't work properly in the Mozilla Firefox browser. The background and images don't show. But I still have Internet
Explorer installed here so I could view it fine.
I had a ZX81 too. It was given to me by my late Grandfather: the old fellow in his late 70's had embraced the exciting new world of computing with open arms and before long, was programming in BASIC and machine code. He had been a lifelong electrician on the British Railways. He gave me his ZX81 when he upgraded to a ZX Spectrum the following year (1982?). The ZX81 had 1K of memory and a 16K expansion pack. But I modified my ZX81. I added a real keyboard, ?5 from a surplus store. Also a 32K memory board (16 2K RAM chips!), ?2 from the same store! The keyboard had hall-effect magnetic proximity switches not real contacts. I had to build an interface consisting of 16 transistors (from old circuit boards), to connect it in place of the ZX81's matrix keyboard. See a picture: .
The wooden board at the back held the ZX81 board on one side, and the modified memory PCB on the reverse. So my ZX81 actually had 32K of memory! If I remember right, it would perform its own check on switch on, and recognise how much memory was connected. Happy times!
I should continue with my work too... But most of my colleagues went to MIAMI this week on a company conference (sounds like a feeble excuse for a big party) and left me and a handful of others behind to "hold the fort". I am not happy. That's why I wasted time yesterday on important matters such as monitor dismantling? ;-)
73 Hans G0UPL
-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@...] Sent: 10 February 2005 09:20 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors
Ha!! 3 years. that is also what our IT dept in my office considers
'old ' (obsolete they say). Yes you are right, opamps make life easy and a simple dc receiver should not be a problem. My hands are itching to demolish my DELL 15" monitor in front of me now and convert it into a QRP transceiver:-)) What's old? At home i use a 5 year old Celeron 266MHz and it runs MixW.2, CWget, CWtype and more ham programms very smoothly. And it has an extensive 128 Meg RAM. I remember the days I bought my first computer, a sinclair ZX81 for almost 400 guilders (200 euro) at that time (earlie 80's ??) a huge amount. Everybody was so happy with 16k ram....!! So we are really spoilt these days with all kinds of fancy 2nd hand equipment and all the free ( :-)? ) software from Bill G. In spite of all the complaining about windows he is one of the few persons who's been able to standardize specs worldwide (apart from some Mac & linux machines). Great job! Nobody has been able yet to launch a worldwide
standardized AC MAINS voltage..... And about demolishing equipment. Try a color TV set! I did a couple of times. A real goldmine. For example I made a panorama receiver (low budget spectrum analyser) using a Philips UV6.. tuner derived from a TVset. It works great in the 47-860 MHz range. If you like, see my description on my website: --> meten ---> vhf..panorama ontvanger
I'll guess i will continue with my work now... that's what i am paid for... By the way, nice chatting with you Hans 73 ron pa2rf
--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers wrote: >? > Ron >? > I think it is possible to make a CW transceiver, not just transmitter! There > are op-amps which make audio amplification and filtering easy. Plenty of > transistors for an audio amp. But the oscillator would have
to be a VFO not > crystal, since the only crystal in the monitor is 8MHz which is not suitable > for an amateur band. I guess you could pull it down a little and divide by 4 > (with the 74HCT74) and put it at the top of top band. The only lacking thing > is any toroids, this monitor contained NO toroids at all! Plenty of wire for > airwounds, and many inductors and small transformers which might assist. >? > You're right about the waste! I also have here an "old" IBM Thinkpad laptop > borrowed from my office. This thing must've cost over ?2,000 when new. My > XYL used it for accessing the internet. But something became corrupted and > when starting, it refuses to start Windows 98 in the proper mode (it starts > in "safe" mode) and complains that the file user.exe is missing. So I > brought it back to the IT department. The internal CD drive is not working. > The
external plug-in floppy drive is missing. And apparently, this laptop is > so old that any other employee is no longer using this model, so it isn't > possible to borrow a floppy drive. They said it would take much too long to > take out the harddrive, plug it into something else, and try to repair the > file. The computer is so ancient that it isn't worth spending time fixing, > they say. So they lent me a more modern laptop (but still one which they > consider quite old). So this IBM Thinkpad laptop is now mine for > dismantling. Just out of interest, I was curious about what was considered > "ancient" so I asked the IT boys how old the Thinkpad is; the answer: "3 > years old"... >? > 73 Hans G0UPL >? > > 2-input NAND gate (SMD) > 74HCT02 Quad 2-input NOR gate (SMD) > 74HC86 Quad 2-input XOR gate (SMD) > > > >
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Hope
the rest of the BITX20 group are not bored by all this off-topic chat. Perhaps
it is interesting to learn and be inspired by the contents of my old monitor and
what can be done with it! Anyway this group is somewhat quiet normally... so
excuse us ;-)?? You could always complain to the moderator. Ooops.
That's me. Well make that complaint to Farhan then, the other
moderator!
?
In
London it is cold, windy and a little wet. I bet in Miami they have sunshine and
are enjoying the beach, in between their "conference" Pahhh
?
I had
a ZX Spectrum too! I wrote many things for it, including an
Assembler/Disassmbler which was written in BASIC but allowed me to easily write
machine code (assembler), after that. I used to love playing with the Mandelbrot
set. I have a web page about it: ?where
you can see (and run)?a ZX81 version. One of the things I did with that
ZX81 was print a 1024?x 1024 pixel mandelbrot set on the small thermal
printer, just 4-inch wide (10cm) paper strips with 256 pixel horizontal
resolution, so I glued 4 long strips together. It was great! The printing part
was in machine code (since the ZX81 did not have pixel graphics, only text and
some symbols, so had to be "persuaded"), the rest was in BASIC. The program took
about 1 week running continously, to print my mandelbrot set! Later I wrote a
version on the ZX Spectrum which ran in 10 hours in BASIC. Then I wrote the
maths in Z80 machine code and had it going in less than 7 minutes runtime (for
the same image). All that is still awaiting me finding the time to put it on my
website.
?
Did
you know you can build your own ZX Spectrum, using all 74HC-series logic etc no
special "custom" chip? See ?.
Someone did a similar ZX80 ?and
I think there is a homebrewed ZX81 somewhere too! Homebrewing a ZX Spectrum is
another thing I want to do someday.
?
It was
Heinz OE5EEP who got me on this Mozilla thing. My own website didn't work quite
right either, despite it being just simple plain HTML! There was a simple 1-line
error in the HTML. It seems that Microsoft Internet Explorer is somewhat
tolerant of HTML faults, which other browsers are not. Since IE is so prevalent,
many website writers only test on IE, and since it tolerates many errors, they
don't know there is a problem.?The sceptical could consider
it?slightly sneaky way for MS to gain market share, but perhaps it is
unintentional. Mozilla Firefox is a nice browser, fast and with useful extra
features.
?
I used
to like visiting the pilots when taking commercial flights. But since the World
Trade Centre that seems no longer possible. Sounds fun watching the aircraft
modification! I just sit here running simulations, watching stupid markets move
in unexplained directions, and wishing I was on a Miami beach :-/? But I
can dream anyway about polyphase direct conversion CW transceivers made from old
monitor parts!
?
73 de
Hans G0UPL
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okidoki Hans,
i'll keep you entertained while your collegues enjoy themselves at the
party...
Thanks for info on the mozilla browser. i was not aware of any viewing
programs.
now i am? 
Saw that about 15% of my visitor use mozilla, so there is something
to?improve.
you're far ahead of me with the polyphase rx !?i read about it but
never attempted to build something like that.
Fully agree with you about the overrated power of our office pc's; here
we do something microsoft office stuff like excel, word, some mailing, surfing
and so on. A 300 MHz PC would be good enough, but all of us have 2.4 GHz
pentium4 machines....And inspite of this we get network failures all the
time...
About the zx81, i did attach a real keyboard with big keys at the time
too (i remember it was orange and i put lots of extra codes on it and there
was something with a matrix). All this typing of the BASIC codes...pfff.
Later i got the spectrum as well (48K !!) with the rubber keys and 4
functions for each key :-)). That was great fun.
I have put the panorma rx into an old vcr housing and it still works
grand.
Ok i have to leave the office for some moments, go down into the hangar
to witness a modification on one of the boeing767 aircraft ( i am working for
a dutch airliner).
ron
pa2rf
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Hans Summers
wrote:
Ron
I
was thinking of a polyphase direct conversion receiver, for single
signal reception! The monitor contains a 74HC4053 tripple 2-1
Multiplexer. I feel that can be made into a Tayloe detector! The 74HC74
can generate the necessary quadrature oscillator switching signals.
Enough R's and C's for a simple passive polyphase network. It even has a
nice 12V 2-pole changeover relay, perfect for transmit/receive switching!
Since switches are lacking, there can be no transmit switch and so the
rig must be semi-QSK. Plenty of MOSFET's are available for a
PA.
At home I used a 100MHz Pentium for 9 years. It was fine. If all
you want is Internet, email and perhaps a spreadsheet or word document,
it does the job! My XYL forced me to get rid of it because she said it
was too old. Well, I said yes it's old but look, it works fine and it
does everything we need it to. But no, she still insisted it was "too
old" so it had to go. She wanted to buy a new one, but she hasn't got
around to it and that's why she has to use the borrowed office
laptop!
Around me here in the office everyone has 2.8GHz machines.
But what do they use them for? Most of them are just watching prices,
graphs, writing emails, documents or spreadsheets, looking at the
internet. Nothing that my old 100MHz Pentium couldn't have done! My PC is
3.2GHz but that's because I run some heavy calculations and simulations
on it so I need the CPU power.
I did take apart plenty of colour
TV's years ago, but not for some years. Video players are a good source
of RF parts too. I have visited your website several times before and I
saw your panoramic receiver, very nice! By the way, your website doesn't
work properly in the Mozilla Firefox browser. The background and images
don't show. But I still have Internet Explorer installed here so I could
view it fine.
I had a ZX81 too. It was given to me by my late
Grandfather: the old fellow in his late 70's had embraced the exciting
new world of computing with open arms and before long, was programming in
BASIC and machine code. He had been a lifelong electrician on the British
Railways. He gave me his ZX81 when he upgraded to a ZX Spectrum the
following year (1982?). The ZX81 had 1K of memory and a 16K expansion
pack. But I modified my ZX81. I added a real keyboard, ???5 from a surplus
store. Also a 32K memory board (16 2K RAM chips!), ???2 from the same
store! The keyboard had hall-effect magnetic proximity switches not real
contacts. I had to build an interface consisting of 16 transistors (from
old circuit boards), to connect it in place of the ZX81's matrix
keyboard. See a picture:
. The wooden board at the back held the ZX81 board on one side, and the
modified memory PCB on the reverse. So my ZX81 actually had 32K of
memory! If I remember right, it would perform its own check on switch on,
and recognise how much memory was connected. Happy times!
I should
continue with my work too... But most of my colleagues went to MIAMI this
week on a company conference (sounds like a feeble excuse for a big
party) and left me and a handful of others behind to "hold the fort".
I am not happy. That's why I wasted time yesterday on important matters
such as monitor dismantling? ;-)
73 Hans G0UPL
-----Original
Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@...] Sent: 10 February
2005 09:20 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling
monitors
Ha!! 3 years. that is also what our IT dept in
my office considers 'old ' (obsolete they say). Yes you are right,
opamps make life easy and a simple dc receiver should not be a problem.
My hands are itching to demolish my DELL 15" monitor in front of me now
and convert it into a QRP transceiver:-)) What's old? At home i use a
5 year old Celeron 266MHz and it runs MixW.2, CWget, CWtype and more ham
programms very smoothly. And it has an extensive 128 Meg RAM. I remember
the days I bought my first computer, a sinclair ZX81 for almost 400
guilders (200 euro) at that time (earlie 80's ??) a huge amount.
Everybody was so happy with 16k ram....!! So we are really spoilt these
days with all kinds of fancy 2nd hand equipment and all the free (
:-)? ) software from Bill G. In spite of all the complaining about
windows he is one of the few persons who's been able to standardize
specs worldwide (apart from some Mac & linux machines). Great job!
Nobody has been able yet to launch a worldwide standardized AC MAINS
voltage..... And about demolishing equipment. Try a color TV set! I did a
couple of times. A real goldmine. For example I made a panorama receiver
(low budget spectrum analyser) using a Philips UV6.. tuner derived
from a TVset. It works great in the 47-860 MHz range. If you like,
see my description on my website:
--> meten ---> vhf..panorama ontvanger
I'll guess i will
continue with my work now... that's what i am paid for... By the
way, nice chatting with you Hans 73 ron pa2rf
--- In
BITX20@..., Hans Summers
wrote: >? > Ron >? > I think it is
possible to make a CW transceiver, not just transmitter! There >
are op-amps which make audio amplification and filtering easy. Plenty
of > transistors for an audio amp. But the oscillator would have to be
a VFO not > crystal, since the only crystal in the monitor is 8MHz
which is not suitable > for an amateur band. I guess you could pull
it down a little and divide by 4 > (with the 74HCT74) and put it at
the top of top band. The only lacking thing > is any toroids, this
monitor contained NO toroids at all! Plenty of wire for >
airwounds, and many inductors and small transformers which
might assist. >? > You're right about the waste! I also
have here an "old" IBM Thinkpad laptop > borrowed from my office.
This thing must've cost over ???2,000 when new. My > XYL used it for
accessing the internet. But something became corrupted and > when
starting, it refuses to start Windows 98 in the proper mode (it
starts > in "safe" mode) and complains that the file user.exe is
missing. So I > brought it back to the IT department. The internal
CD drive is not working. > The external plug-in floppy drive is
missing. And apparently, this laptop is > so old that any other
employee is no longer using this model, so it isn't > possible to
borrow a floppy drive. They said it would take much too long to >
take out the harddrive, plug it into something else, and try to repair
the > file. The computer is so ancient that it isn't worth spending
time fixing, > they say. So they lent me a more modern laptop (but
still one which they > consider quite old). So this IBM Thinkpad
laptop is now mine for > dismantling. Just out of interest, I was
curious about what was considered > "ancient" so I asked the IT
boys how old the Thinkpad is; the answer: "3 > years
old"... >? > 73 Hans G0UPL >? > >
2-input NAND gate (SMD) > 74HCT02 Quad 2-input NOR gate (SMD) >
74HC86 Quad 2-input XOR gate (SMD) > > > >
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Hi agn Hans,
Yes dear forum members, tell me if i am boring... 
ZX spectrum, now i think of it i get visions of programms like FROGGER and TETRIS. Very funny. I did some Mandelbrot things as well on a Sharp MZ800. The program ran for 2 days end ended with a nice colour pict. on the TV screen. My used-to-be girlfriend (now wife) switched off the mz800 after 75% of the pict was finished. Made me angry, but she said it was my own fault (i had the tv set switched off of course). Now the MZ800 is in a corner and i retained the 17 MHz VXO and lm386 1 watt audio amp in it HI.
Just visited the homebrew zx spectum site you showed, this man is uh... let's call it 'amazing'. On ebay you get zx spectrums almost for free now ( ? ).
Work here can be boring as well. Ever made a reliability report with comlaints, delays and so on? But yes, sometimes there are nice things going on (also in the field of radio comms). And sometimes real bloodpressure increasing problems (AOGs=aircraft on ground) pop up. Tomorrow my hufandpuf components will arrive i saw in the mailbox. I will do some soldering during the weekend i guess. Altough there is a PACC contest on shortwave and the children want to play soccer, basketball and watch spoungeBOB (Are you ready ??)
Showed my collegues your homebrewed capacitors with the aluminiumfoil. They think its great !! And i think your QRPP experiment (beacon) is fantastic. Any new ideas in that direction?? Like your 1 chip freq counter as well.... ron Hans Summers wrote:
?
Ok Ron
?
Hope the rest of the BITX20 group are not bored by all this off-topic chat. Perhaps it is interesting to learn and be inspired by the contents of my old monitor and what can be done with it! Anyway this group is somewhat quiet normally... so excuse us ;-)?? You could always complain to the moderator. Ooops. That's me. Well make that complaint to Farhan then, the other moderator!
?
In London it is cold, windy and a little wet. I bet in Miami they have sunshine and are enjoying the beach, in between their "conference" Pahhh
?
I had a ZX Spectrum too! I wrote many things for it, including an Assembler/Disassmbler which was written in BASIC but allowed me to easily write machine code (assembler), after that. I used to love playing with the Mandelbrot set. I have a web page about it: ?where you can see (and run)?a ZX81 version. One of the things I did with that ZX81 was print a 1024?x 1024 pixel mandelbrot set on the small thermal printer, just 4-inch wide (10cm) paper strips with 256 pixel horizontal resolution, so I glued 4 long strips together. It was great! The printing part was in machine code (since the ZX81 did not have pixel graphics, only text and some symbols, so had to be "persuaded"), the rest was in BASIC. The program took about 1 week running continously, to print my mandelbrot
set! Later I wrote a version on the ZX Spectrum which ran in 10 hours in BASIC. Then I wrote the maths in Z80 machine code and had it going in less than 7 minutes runtime (for the same image). All that is still awaiting me finding the time to put it on my website.
?
Did you know you can build your own ZX Spectrum, using all 74HC-series logic etc no special "custom" chip? See ?. Someone did a similar ZX80 ?and I think there is a homebrewed ZX81 somewhere too! Homebrewing a ZX Spectrum is another thing I want to do someday.
?
It was Heinz OE5EEP who got me on this Mozilla thing. My own website didn't work quite right either, despite it being just simple plain HTML! There was a simple 1-line error in the HTML. It seems that Microsoft Internet Explorer is somewhat tolerant of HTML faults, which other browsers are not. Since IE is so prevalent, many website writers only test on IE, and since it tolerates many errors, they don't know there is a problem.?The sceptical could consider it?slightly sneaky way for MS to gain market share, but perhaps it is unintentional. Mozilla Firefox is a nice browser, fast and with useful extra features.
?
I used to like visiting the pilots when taking commercial flights. But since the World Trade Centre that seems no longer possible. Sounds fun watching the aircraft modification! I just sit here running simulations, watching stupid markets move in unexplained directions, and wishing I was on a Miami beach :-/? But I can dream anyway about polyphase direct conversion CW transceivers made from old monitor parts!
?
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My
2-year old daughter isn't ready for Squarepants yet. She still likes "The
Tweenies" and "Teletubbies". These are probably very UK specific and you don't
know what they are... please don't ask! Sometimes I make her watch Tom &
Jerry instead, so that I can enjoy it too ;-)
?
Someday I would like to make an entire transmitter (and maybe receiver)
using homemade components, including homemade valves. More dreams for the
future.
?
You
asked about my beacon - there is another "hidden" page ?which
contains more recent experiments and results. Recently I built a DDS generator
to obtain a rock solid, predictable frequency source for the QRSS beacon. See ?.
Again, no microcontroller. My 30m QRSS beacon is currently QRV to an attic
dipole, on frequency 10,140,050 +/- 2Hz. The message is my callsign in QRSS3,
followed by slow-Hellschreiber (14Hz "height", 1 second half-pixels, i.e. 98
seconds per character), followed by my "crown" signature trademark repeated 6
times and of course a quick 12wpm CW ident. Power is 250mW estimated. You need
spectrum software running on a computer to be able to decode this weak signal.
But it's there 24 x 7, European listeners should have no trouble finding it.
?
There are other non-linked up pages on my website too. The place
needs some work. One of these, is the page about my modifications to my 1-valve
ECL82 80/40m CW transmitter which is still the ONLY transmitter I have ever made
QSO's with (550 in total, now). The BITX20 awaits debugging of the PA. I
converted the TX to operate also on 30 and 20m. I added coil taps and crystals,
so now have 8 installed: 3.558, 3.560, 7.010, 7.030, 10.106, 10.125, 14.060,
14.060. See ?.
The reason I mention this, is that you will notice if you scroll down, that I
modified the TX also adding a keying relay, then connecting everything up to my
QRSS beacon controller... then I programmed (by hand, with the toggle switches)
one of the 8 EEPROM channels of the beacon, to contain: "CQ CQ CQ DE G0UPL G0UPL
G0UPL CQ CQ CQ DE G0UPL G0UPL G0UPL K" wait a bit, then call again. This is
hilarious! Lots of relay clicking. So I can call CQ without touching the key.
Great so I can continue soldering the projects while I call CQ. I am now at the
stage where my CW is good enough that if condx are good and the other op sends
reasonable CW, I can just about copy him in my head without writing everything
down. Which again, means I can continue my soldering even during a
QSO!
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Hi agn Hans,
Yes dear forum members, tell me if i am boring... 
ZX spectrum, now i think of it i get visions of programms like FROGGER
and TETRIS. Very funny. I did some Mandelbrot things as well on a Sharp MZ800.
The program ran for 2 days end ended with a nice colour pict. on the TV
screen. My used-to-be girlfriend (now wife) switched off the mz800 after 75%
of the pict was finished. Made me angry, but she said it was my own fault (i
had the tv set switched off of course). Now the MZ800 is in a corner and i
retained the 17 MHz VXO and lm386 1 watt audio amp in it HI.
Just visited the homebrew zx spectum site you showed, this man is uh...
let's call it 'amazing'. On ebay you get zx spectrums almost for free now ( ?
).
Work here can be boring as well. Ever made a reliability report with
comlaints, delays and so on? But yes, sometimes there are nice things going on
(also in the field of radio comms). And sometimes real bloodpressure
increasing problems (AOGs=aircraft on ground) pop up. Tomorrow my hufandpuf
components will arrive i saw in the mailbox. I will do some soldering during
the weekend i guess. Altough there is a PACC contest on shortwave and the
children want to play soccer, basketball and watch spoungeBOB (Are you ready
??)
Showed my collegues your homebrewed capacitors with the aluminiumfoil.
They think its great !! And i think your QRPP experiment (beacon) is
fantastic. Any new ideas in that direction?? Like your 1 chip freq counter as
well.... ron Hans Summers
wrote:
?
Ok
Ron
?
Hope the rest of the BITX20 group are not bored by all this off-topic
chat. Perhaps it is interesting to learn and be inspired by the contents of
my old monitor and what can be done with it! Anyway this group is somewhat
quiet normally... so excuse us ;-)?? You could always complain to
the moderator. Ooops. That's me. Well make that complaint to Farhan then,
the other moderator!
?
In
London it is cold, windy and a little wet. I bet in Miami they have sunshine
and are enjoying the beach, in between their "conference"
Pahhh
?
I
had a ZX Spectrum too! I wrote many things for it, including an
Assembler/Disassmbler which was written in BASIC but allowed me to easily
write machine code (assembler), after that. I used to love playing with the
Mandelbrot set. I have a web page about it: ?where
you can see (and run)?a ZX81 version. One of the things I did with that
ZX81 was print a 1024?x 1024 pixel mandelbrot set on the small thermal
printer, just 4-inch wide (10cm) paper strips with 256 pixel horizontal
resolution, so I glued 4 long strips together. It was great! The printing
part was in machine code (since the ZX81 did not have pixel graphics, only
text and some symbols, so had to be "persuaded"), the rest was in BASIC. The
program took about 1 week running continously, to print my mand! elbrot set!
Later I wrote a version on the ZX Spectrum which ran in 10 hours in BASIC.
Then I wrote the maths in Z80 machine code and had it going in less than 7
minutes runtime (for the same image). All that is still awaiting me finding
the time to put it on my website.
?
Did you know you can build your own ZX Spectrum, using all
74HC-series logic etc no special "custom" chip? See ?.
Someone did a similar ZX80 ?and
I think there is a homebrewed ZX81 somewhere too! Homebrewing a ZX Spectrum
is another thing I want to do someday.
?
It
was Heinz OE5EEP who got me on this Mozilla thing. My own website didn't
work quite right either, despite it being just simple plain HTML! There was
a simple 1-line error in the HTML. It seems that Microsoft Internet Explorer
is somewhat tolerant of HTML faults, which other browsers are not. Since IE
is so prevalent, many website writers only test on IE, and since it
tolerates many errors, they don't know there is a problem.?The
sceptical could consider it?slightly sneaky way for MS to gain market
share, but perhaps it is unintentional. Mozilla Firefox is a nice browser,
fast and with useful extra features.
?
I
used to like visiting the pilots when taking commercial flights. But since
the World Trade Centre that seems no longer possible. Sounds fun watching
the aircraft modification! I just sit here running simulations, watching
stupid markets move in unexplained directions, and wishing I was on a Miami
beach :-/? But I can dream anyway about polyphase direct conversion CW
transceivers made from old monitor parts!
?
73
de Hans G0UPL
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Tnx very much for your message with all the good information. I enjoyed your dedicated ECL82 experiments. 30 m is a special band. I made this 30m-CW rig working on 10.106 and 10.116 MHz Xtals and irf510 in the PA. I like the clicking of the tx relay when the thing is transmitting. And yes I can give cq cq while soldering :-)) Made about 50 qso's with it now (SP, D, I, OM, OK). Since i do not speak morse, i use cwget and cwtype on my 266 MHz celeron, and it works great. I am surprised the dc receiver with so41p works great with my 14m attic antenna.
AM broadcast break-through is minimal.
Have a look at ?. Only Dutch i am afraid. Translation to follow.
The 30m beacon results on the hidden page are very original. Nice graphics and diagrams. This really starts to look like science. Must have taken you a couple of days to collect all data.
Sure I know Tinky-winky, Dipsy and LaLa !! Tweenies are new for me. I'll ask my son, he is 9 and probably knows...
73 tnx fer fb chat
Ron
PA2RF
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My 2-year old daughter isn't ready for Squarepants yet. She still likes "The Tweenies" and "Teletubbies". These are probably very UK specific and you don't know what they are... please don't ask! Sometimes I make her watch Tom & Jerry instead, so that I can enjoy it too ;-)
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Someday I would like to make an entire transmitter (and maybe receiver) using homemade components, including homemade valves. More dreams for the future.
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You asked about my beacon - there is another "hidden" page ?which contains more recent experiments and results. Recently I built a DDS generator to obtain a rock solid, predictable frequency source for the QRSS beacon. See ?. Again, no microcontroller. My 30m QRSS beacon is currently QRV to an attic dipole, on frequency 10,140,050 +/- 2Hz. The message is my callsign in QRSS3, followed by slow-Hellschreiber (14Hz "height", 1 second half-pixels, i.e. 98 seconds per character), followed by my "crown" signature trademark repeated 6 times and of course a quick 12wpm CW ident. Power is 250mW estimated. You need spectrum software
running on a computer to be able to decode this weak signal. But it's there 24 x 7, European listeners should have no trouble finding it.
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There are other non-linked up pages on my website too. The place needs some work. One of these, is the page about my modifications to my 1-valve ECL82 80/40m CW transmitter which is still the ONLY transmitter I have ever made QSO's with (550 in total, now). The BITX20 awaits debugging of the PA. I converted the TX to operate also on 30 and 20m. I added coil taps and crystals, so now have 8 installed: 3.558, 3.560, 7.010, 7.030, 10.106, 10.125, 14.060, 14.060. See ?. The reason I mention this, is that you will notice if you scroll down, that I modified the TX also adding a keying relay, then connecting everything up to my QRSS beacon controller... then I programmed (by hand, with the toggle switches) one of the 8 EEPROM channels of the beacon, to contain: "CQ CQ CQ DE G0UPL G0UPL
G0UPL CQ CQ CQ DE G0UPL G0UPL G0UPL K" wait a bit, then call again. This is hilarious! Lots of relay clicking. So I can call CQ without touching the key. Great so I can continue soldering the projects while I call CQ. I am now at the stage where my CW is good enough that if condx are good and the other op sends reasonable CW, I can just about copy him in my head without writing everything down. Which again, means I can continue my soldering even during a QSO!
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I like
30m too. One of my other projects is a miniature CW transceiver for 30m. Nice
job on the 30m rig, I hadn't seen that on your site before, I think it is newer
than when?I previously visited. I have a 30m direct conversion receiver see
?but
it suffers from plenty of broadcast breakthrough. Nevertheless I had some nice
QSO's on it including my first Italian station. Perhaps when I am next able to
get my station QRV again on 30m we can try a QSO! PA might be a little too close
for 30m though, except under unusual band condx.
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Hmm so
you have teletubbies too. My daughter loves them. She's 2 on 1st April. Only
problem is, she gets very angry when the programme finishes and blames it on me.
What does she want me to do? Telephone the BBC and ask them to play it again? Ah
well, guess I shouldn't have dismantled the video recorder? ;-)
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73
Hans G0UPL
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Hello Hans,
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Tnx very much for your message with all the good information. I enjoyed
your dedicated ECL82 experiments. 30 m is a special band. I made this 30m-CW
rig working on 10.106 and 10.116 MHz Xtals and irf510 in the PA. I like the
clicking of the tx relay when the thing is transmitting. And yes I can give cq
cq while soldering :-)) Made about 50 qso's with it now (SP, D, I, OM, OK).
Since i do not speak morse, i use cwget and cwtype on my 266 MHz celeron, and
it works great. I am surprised the dc receiver with so41p works great with my
14m attic antenna.
AM broadcast break-through is minimal.
Have a look at ?.
Only Dutch i am afraid. Translation to follow.
The 30m beacon results on the hidden page are very original. Nice
graphics and diagrams. This really starts to look like science. Must have
taken you a couple of days to collect all data.
Sure I know Tinky-winky, Dipsy and LaLa !! Tweenies are new for me. I'll
ask my son, he is 9 and probably knows...
73 tnx fer fb chat
Ron
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Hans Summers
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Hello Ron om
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My
2-year old daughter isn't ready for Squarepants yet. She still likes "The
Tweenies" and "Teletubbies". These are probably very UK specific and you
don't know what they are... please don't ask! Sometimes I make her watch Tom
& Jerry instead, so that I can enjoy it too ;-)
?
Someday I would like to make an entire transmitter (and maybe
receiver) using homemade components, including homemade valves. More dreams
for the future.
?
You asked about my beacon - there is another "hidden" page
?which
contains more recent experiments and results. Recently I built a DDS
generator to obtain a rock solid, predictable frequency source for the QRSS
beacon. See ?.
Again, no microcontroller. My 30m QRSS beacon is currently QRV to an attic
dipole, on frequency 10,140,050 +/- 2Hz. The message is my callsign in
QRSS3, followed by slow-Hellschreiber (14Hz "height", 1 second half-pixels,
i.e. 98 seconds per character), followed by my "crown" signature trademark
repeated 6 times and of course a quick 12wpm CW ident. Power is 250mW
estimated. You need spectrum ! software running on a computer to be able to
decode this weak signal. But it's there 24 x 7, European listeners should
have no trouble finding it.
?
There are other non-linked up pages on my website too. The
place needs some work. One of these, is the page about my modifications to
my 1-valve ECL82 80/40m CW transmitter which is still the ONLY transmitter I
have ever made QSO's with (550 in total, now). The BITX20 awaits debugging
of the PA. I converted the TX to operate also on 30 and 20m. I added coil
taps and crystals, so now have 8 installed: 3.558, 3.560, 7.010, 7.030,
10.106, 10.125, 14.060, 14.060. See ?.
The reason I mention this, is that you will notice if you scroll down, that
I modified the TX also adding a keying relay, then connecting everything up
to my QRSS beacon controller... then I programmed (by hand, with the toggle
switches) one of the 8 EEPROM channels of the beacon, to contain: "CQ CQ CQ
DE G0U! PL G0UPL G0UPL CQ CQ CQ DE G0UPL G0UPL G0UPL K" wait a bit, then
call again. This is hilarious! Lots of relay clicking. So I can call CQ
without touching the key. Great so I can continue soldering the projects
while I call CQ. I am now at the stage where my CW is good enough that if
condx are good and the other op sends reasonable CW, I can just about copy
him in my head without writing everything down. Which again, means I can
continue my soldering even during a QSO!
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73 Hans G0UPL
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Good morning OM Nice 30m rx Hans! Similar to the dc rx i built, altough i used an old so41p (which are not produced anymore). And i have used to x-tals for the oscillator instead of a free vfo. Ordered them from Funk Amateur a magazin in Germany. The complete trscvr is in an old CD-player housing now. With a nice Aluminium plate on the front, it looks brand-new (Where did you buy that ...) Sometimes there is some broadcast breaktrough but not often. I discovered that around 11 o-clock in the morning and 4 o-clock in the afternoon i get the best results. Stations seems to be around the corner. I worked with 5 watt station from Poland which was awfully loud. If condx are there it is a great band. During evening the band seems dead last couple of weeks. I think G - PA is too short distance for 30m but we can try if you like. I only have 10,108 and 10,118 on cw available...OK, i asked my son about Tweenies. He said they are similar to the Tubbies and further refused to talk about it :-(( He is into Yu-kiyo, Spongebob Squarepants and The Karate Kid these days... bye ron --- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hi Ron I like 30m too. One of my other projects is a miniature CW transceiver for 30m. Nice job on the 30m rig, I hadn't seen that on your site before, I think it is newer than when I previously visited. I have a 30m direct conversion receiver see <> but it suffers from plenty of broadcast breakthrough. Nevertheless I had some nice QSO's on it including my first Italian station. Perhaps when I am next able to get my station QRV again on 30m we can try a QSO! PA might be a little too close for 30m though, except under unusual band condx. Hmm so you have teletubbies too. My daughter loves them. She's 2 on 1st April. Only problem is, she gets very angry when the programme finishes and blames it on me. What does she want me to do? Telephone the BBC and ask them to play it again? Ah well, guess I shouldn't have dismantled the video recorder ;-) 73 Hans G0UPL
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Hello Ron
My VFO uses just a simple 74LS04 inverter, and it's surprisingly stable even at 10MHz, after some warm-up time. Perfectly adequate for a CW QSO. The main problem with it is that I did not gear the tuning knob, so the tuning rate is very fast! By the way, speaking of recycling - that tuning capacitor came out of a 1970's radio tuner which I dismantled. I found it at the rubbish dump a year ago. I had a car full of garden waste which I was dumping there. I saw this thing on the ground next to the door where you pour the waste in. The strangest thing happened! All by itself, it just jumped off the ground and into the boot of my car!
All I know about the Tweenies and Teletubbies is that in both cases, they wear ridiculous suits in bright colours, have silly names, and dance around singing funny songs. My daughter is the expert ;-)
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Hi there Hans, Nice story about the tuning cap. Your vfo looks fine. If CW goes ok, drift should be less than 100 Hz or so. Congratulations. My components for the huf&puf circuitry arrived but i did not touch the soldering equipment this weekend. I decided to participate in my first HF contest the 50th Dutch PACC. This had nothing to do with QRP and homebrew equipment!. Made about 70 contacts with old Kenwood transceiver from 1972 with tubes (plenty of pwr)... The more I think of the beacon project, the more i like it. How about a qrp 250mW TX on 18.0xy MHz calling CW using a PIC generating the cw code... Bye for now ron --- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hello Ron
My VFO uses just a simple 74LS04 inverter, and it's surprisingly
stable even at 10MHz, after some warm-up time. Perfectly adequate for a CW QSO. The main problem with it is that I did not gear the tuning knob, so the tuning rate is very fast! By the way, speaking of recycling - that tuning capacitor came out of a 1970's radio tuner which I dismantled. I found it at the rubbish dump a year ago. I had a car full of garden waste which I was dumping there. I saw this thing on the ground next to the door where you pour the waste in. The strangest thing happened! All by itself, it just jumped off the ground and into the boot of my car!
All I know about the Tweenies and Teletubbies is that in both cases, they wear ridiculous suits in bright colours, have silly names, and dance around singing funny songs. My daughter is the expert ;-)
73 Hans G0UPL
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Good morning OM Nice 30m rx Hans! Similar to the dc rx i built, altough i used an old so41p (which are not produced anymore). And i have used to x-tals for the oscillator instead of a free vfo. Ordered them from Funk Amateur a magazin in Germany. The complete trscvr is in an old CD-player housing now. With a nice Aluminium plate on the front, it looks brand-new (Where did you buy that ...) Sometimes there is some broadcast breaktrough but not often. I discovered that around 11 o-clock in the morning and 4 o-clock in the afternoon i get the best results. Stations seems to be around the corner. I worked with 5 watt station from Poland which was awfully loud. If condx are there it is a great band. During evening the band seems dead last couple of weeks. I think G - PA is too short distance for 30m but we can try if you like. I only have 10,108 and 10,118 on cw available...OK, i asked my son about Tweenies. He said they are similar to the Tubbies and further refused to talk about it :-(( He is into Yu-kiyo, Spongebob Squarepants and The Karate Kid these days... bye ron
--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hi Ron I like 30m too. One of my other projects is a miniature CW transceiver for
30m. Nice job on the 30m rig, I hadn't seen that on your site before, I
think it is newer than when I previously visited. I have a 30m direct
conversion receiver see
<> but it suffers from plenty
of broadcast breakthrough. Nevertheless I had some nice QSO's on
it including my first Italian station. Perhaps when I am next able to get my
station QRV again on 30m we can try a QSO! PA might be a little
too close
for 30m though, except under unusual band condx. Hmm so you have teletubbies too. My daughter loves them. She's 2 on 1st
April. Only problem is, she gets very angry when the programme finishes and
blames it on me. What does she want me to do? Telephone the BBC and ask them
to play it again? Ah well, guess I shouldn't have dismantled the video
recorder ;-) 73 Hans G0UPL
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Congrats on the Dutch contest. 70 QSO's is a lot (for me, anyway!). If you are interested in low power QRSS beacons, there is a mailing list you might not be aware of. The QRSS Knights webpage is and if you want to subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to on5ex@... . Most activity is in Europe but there are also some experimenters in VK with regular reception reports EU - VK on 30m.
This weekend I looked at the monitor PCB some more and made a complete list of all the resistors and capacitors. You know, there are a huge number of components there. But certain parts of a receiver require very specific component values! That makes it a real challenge if one decides to build the rig from ONLY parts in the monitor.
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My VFO uses just a simple 74LS04 inverter, and it's surprisingly
stable even at 10MHz, after some warm-up time. Perfectly adequate for a CW QSO. The main problem with it is that I did not gear the tuning knob, so the tuning rate is very fast! By the way, speaking of recycling - that tuning capacitor came out of a 1970's radio tuner which I dismantled. I found it at the rubbish dump a year ago. I had a car full of garden waste which I was dumping there. I saw this thing on the ground next to the door where you pour the waste in. The strangest thing happened! All by itself, it just jumped off the ground and into the boot of my car!
All I know about the Tweenies and Teletubbies is that in both cases, they wear ridiculous suits in bright colours, have silly names, and dance around singing funny songs. My daughter is the expert ;-)
73 Hans G0UPL
-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@y...] Sent: 11 February 2005 07:20 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors
Good morning OM Nice 30m rx Hans! Similar to the dc rx i built, altough i used an old so41p (which are not produced anymore). And i have used to x-tals for the oscillator instead of a free vfo. Ordered them from Funk Amateur a magazin in Germany. The complete trscvr is in an old CD-player housing now. With a nice Aluminium plate on the front, it looks brand-new (Where did you buy that ...) Sometimes there is some broadcast breaktrough but not often. I discovered that around 11 o-clock in the morning and 4 o-clock in the afternoon i get the best results. Stations seems to be around the corner. I worked with 5 watt station from Poland which was awfully loud. If condx are there it is a great band. During evening the band seems dead last couple of weeks. I think G - PA is too short distance for 30m but we can try if you like. I only have 10,108 and 10,118 on cw available...OK, i asked my son about Tweenies. He said they are similar to the Tubbies and further refused to talk about it :-(( He is into Yu-kiyo, Spongebob Squarepants and The Karate Kid these days... bye ron
--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hi Ron I like 30m too. One of my other projects is a miniature CW transceiver for
30m. Nice job on the 30m rig, I hadn't seen that on your site before, I
think it is newer than when I previously visited. I have a 30m direct
conversion receiver see
<> but it suffers from plenty
of broadcast breakthrough. Nevertheless I had some nice QSO's on
it including my first Italian station. Perhaps when I am next able to get my
station QRV again on 30m we can try a QSO! PA might be a little
too close
for 30m though, except under unusual band condx. Hmm so you have teletubbies too. My daughter loves them. She's 2 on 1st
April. Only problem is, she gets very angry when the programme finishes and
blames it on me. What does she want me to do? Telephone the BBC and ask them
to play it again? Ah well, guess I shouldn't have dismantled the video
recorder ;-) 73 Hans G0UPL
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Nice website of the qrp beacon knights! Tnx for that. Nice picts. Impressive what can be achieved with 100 mW. What do you guess which will be the minimum to work with CW on e.g. 30m ?? Compared with this milliwatt festival i do not think 70 qso's over 2days during a contest is a real achievement... Has the Schnappie-song also invaded England?? (Schnappie das kleine Krokodil) Greetings from Holland Ron pa2rf --- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hello Ron
Congrats on the Dutch contest. 70 QSO's is a lot (for me, anyway!).
If you are interested in low power QRSS beacons, there is a mailing list you might not be aware of. The QRSS Knights webpage is and if you want to subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to on5ex@p... . Most activity is in Europe but there are also some experimenters in VK with regular reception reports EU - VK on 30m.
This weekend I looked at the monitor PCB some more and made a complete list of all the resistors and capacitors. You know, there are a huge number of components there. But certain parts of a receiver require very specific component values! That makes it a real challenge if one decides to build the rig from ONLY parts in the monitor.
73 Hans G0UPL
-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@y...] Sent: 14 February 2005 07:23 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors
Hi there Hans, Nice story about the tuning cap. Your vfo looks fine. If CW goes ok, drift should be less than 100 Hz or so. Congratulations. My components for the huf&puf circuitry arrived but i did not touch the soldering equipment this weekend. I decided to participate in my first HF contest the 50th Dutch PACC. This had nothing to do with QRP and homebrew equipment!. Made about 70 contacts with old Kenwood transceiver from 1972 with tubes (plenty of pwr)... The more I think of the beacon project, the more i like it. How about a qrp 250mW TX on 18.0xy MHz calling CW using a PIC generating the cw code... Bye for now ron
--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hello Ron
My VFO uses just a simple 74LS04 inverter, and it's surprisingly stable even
at 10MHz, after some warm-up time. Perfectly adequate for a CW
QSO. The main
problem with it is that I did not gear the tuning knob, so the tuning rate
is very fast! By the way, speaking of recycling - that tuning capacitor came
out of a 1970's radio tuner which I dismantled. I found it at the rubbish
dump a year ago. I had a car full of garden waste which I was dumping there.
I saw this thing on the ground next to the door where you pour the waste in.
The strangest thing happened! All by itself, it just jumped off the ground
and into the boot of my car!
All I know about the Tweenies and Teletubbies is that in both cases, they
wear ridiculous suits in bright colours, have silly names, and dance around
singing funny songs. My daughter is the expert ;-)
73 Hans G0UPL
-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@y...] Sent: 11 February 2005 07:20 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors
Good morning OM Nice 30m rx Hans! Similar to the dc rx i built, altough i used an old so41p (which are
not produced anymore). And i have used to x-tals for the oscillator instead of a free vfo. Ordered them from Funk Amateur a magazin
in Germany. The complete trscvr is in an old CD-player housing now. With
a nice Aluminium plate on the front, it looks brand-new (Where did you buy that ...) Sometimes there is some broadcast breaktrough but not often. I discovered that around 11 o-clock in the morning and 4 o-clock in the
afternoon i get the best results. Stations seems to be around the corner. I worked with 5 watt station from Poland which was
awfully loud. If condx are there it is a great band. During evening the band seems dead last couple of weeks. I think
G -
PA is too short distance for 30m but we can try if you like. I only have 10,108 and 10,118 on cw available...OK, i asked my son about Tweenies. He said they are similar to the Tubbies and further refused
to talk about it :-(( He is into Yu-kiyo, Spongebob Squarepants and The Karate Kid these days... bye ron
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Hi Ron I like 30m too. One of my other projects is a miniature CW transceiver for
30m. Nice job on the 30m rig, I hadn't seen that on your site before, I
think it is newer than when I previously visited. I have a 30m direct
conversion receiver see
<> but it suffers from plenty
of broadcast breakthrough. Nevertheless I had some nice QSO's on it
including my first Italian station. Perhaps when I am next able
to get my
station QRV again on 30m we can try a QSO! PA might be a little too
close
for 30m though, except under unusual band condx. Hmm so you have teletubbies too. My daughter loves them. She's 2 on
1st
April. Only problem is, she gets very angry when the programme finishes and
blames it on me. What does she want me to do? Telephone the BBC and
ask them
to play it again? Ah well, guess I shouldn't have dismantled the video
recorder ;-) 73 Hans G0UPL
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Hi Ron
100mW! These guys go down to 10uW levels sometimes! I think on 30m when condx are good, a very low power can get through. My beacon is 250mW and I have had reports from ON and PA that when propagation permits, I am easily audible with a standard CW filter (i.e. not just "visible" on the spectogram display). But usually, ON an PA are too close. Just occasional unusual condx permit a short window to open up, which can close in a matter of seconds. Propagation effects are very interesting. If sunset is occuring between the two stations' QTH, a doppler effect is often visible on the signal, it splits in the spectrogram into two lines separated by a Hz or so. This is due to the rapid movement of the ionosphere at sunset.
I am not familiar with the Schnappie song, but I admit to not being an expert!
73 from nr London where we have some sunshine today
Hans G0UPL
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-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@...] Sent: 14 February 2005 14:37 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors Nice website of the qrp beacon knights! Tnx for that. Nice picts. Impressive what can be achieved with 100 mW. What do you guess which will be the minimum to work with CW on e.g. 30m ?? Compared with this milliwatt festival i do not think 70 qso's over 2days during a contest is a real achievement... Has the Schnappie-song also invaded England?? (Schnappie das kleine Krokodil) Greetings from Holland Ron pa2rf --- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hello Ron
Congrats on the Dutch contest. 70 QSO's is a lot (for me, anyway!).
If you are interested in low power QRSS beacons, there is a mailing list you might not be aware of. The QRSS Knights webpage is and if you want to subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to on5ex@p... . Most activity is in Europe but there are also some experimenters in VK with regular reception reports EU - VK on 30m.
This weekend I looked at the monitor PCB some more and made a complete list of all the resistors and capacitors. You know, there are a huge number of components there. But certain parts of a receiver require very specific component values! That makes it a real challenge if one decides to build the rig from ONLY parts in the monitor.
73 Hans G0UPL
-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@y...] Sent: 14 February 2005 07:23 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors
Hi there Hans, Nice story about the tuning cap. Your vfo looks fine. If CW goes ok, drift should be less than 100 Hz or so. Congratulations. My components for the huf&puf circuitry arrived but i did not touch the soldering equipment this weekend. I decided to participate in my first HF contest the 50th Dutch PACC. This had nothing to do with QRP and homebrew equipment!. Made about 70 contacts with old Kenwood transceiver from 1972 with tubes (plenty of pwr)... The more I think of the beacon project, the more i like it. How about a qrp 250mW TX on 18.0xy MHz calling CW using a PIC generating the cw code... Bye for now ron
--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote: Hello Ron
My VFO uses just a simple 74LS04 inverter, and it's surprisingly stable even
at 10MHz, after some warm-up time. Perfectly adequate for a CW
QSO. The main
problem with it is that I did not gear the tuning knob, so the tuning rate
is very fast! By the way, speaking of recycling - that tuning capacitor came
out of a 1970's radio tuner which I dismantled. I found it at the rubbish
dump a year ago. I had a car full of garden waste which I was dumping there.
I saw this thing on the ground next to the door where you pour the waste in.
The strangest thing happened! All by itself, it just jumped off the ground
and into the boot of my car!
All I know about the Tweenies and Teletubbies is that in both cases, they
wear ridiculous suits in bright colours, have silly names, and dance around
singing funny songs. My daughter is the expert ;-)
73 Hans G0UPL
-----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:pa2rf@y...] Sent: 11 February 2005 07:20 To: BITX20@... Subject: [BITX20] Re: Recycling monitors
Good morning OM Nice 30m rx Hans! Similar to the dc rx i built, altough i used an old so41p (which are
not produced anymore). And i have used to x-tals for the oscillator instead of a free vfo. Ordered them from Funk Amateur a magazin
in Germany. The complete trscvr is in an old CD-player housing now. With
a nice Aluminium plate on the front, it looks brand-new (Where did you buy that ...) Sometimes there is some broadcast breaktrough but not often. I discovered that around 11 o-clock in the morning and 4 o-clock in the
afternoon i get the best results. Stations seems to be around the corner. I worked with 5 watt station from Poland which was
awfully loud. If condx are there it is a great band. During evening the band seems dead last couple of weeks. I think
G -
PA is too short distance for 30m but we can try if you like. I only have 10,108 and 10,118 on cw available...OK, i asked my son about Tweenies. He said they are similar to the Tubbies and further refused
to talk about it :-(( He is into Yu-kiyo, Spongebob Squarepants and The Karate Kid these days... bye ron
--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote:
Hi Ron I like 30m too. One of my other projects is a miniature CW transceiver for
30m. Nice job on the 30m rig, I hadn't seen that on your site before, I
think it is newer than when I previously visited. I have a 30m direct
conversion receiver see
<> but it suffers from plenty
of broadcast breakthrough. Nevertheless I had some nice QSO's on it
including my first Italian station. Perhaps when I am next able
to get my
station QRV again on 30m we can try a QSO! PA might be a little too
close
for 30m though, except under unusual band condx. Hmm so you have teletubbies too. My daughter loves them. She's 2 on
1st
April. Only problem is, she gets very angry when the programme finishes and
blames it on me. What does she want me to do? Telephone the BBC and
ask them
to play it again? Ah well, guess I shouldn't have dismantled the video
recorder ;-) 73 Hans G0UPL
> .
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