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Purchase of uBitx on hold until?


Eliot Ricciardelli
 

I have been watching the development of the uBitx through the recent revisions and querying some owners. If I am not mistaken there are still issues with one or more components of the latest rev. I have emailed hfsigs?support to ask when these will be addressed, but have yet to receive a reply.
I get the spirit of this is modding, tweaking and tinkering - but doesn't the fact that there are clear issues with components put pause in anyone else to purchase? Or do you just find a replacement and move on?


Jack Purdum
 

Often the blanket statements made here are simply too broad. For example, I now own 3 BITX's and 4 ?BITX's and all of them are in spec for 80M, 40M, and 20M. Two are within a dB of being in spec on 15M, but all are outta whack on 10M. For me, since I use 40M and 20M most of the time, I'm fine with my rigs. YMMV.

Jack, W8TEE

On Monday, October 8, 2018, 1:03:17 PM EDT, Eliot Ricciardelli via Groups.Io <ke0n@...> wrote:


I have been watching the development of the uBitx through the recent revisions and querying some owners. If I am not mistaken there are still issues with one or more components of the latest rev. I have emailed hfsigs?support to ask when these will be addressed, but have yet to receive a reply.
I get the spirit of this is modding, tweaking and tinkering - but doesn't the fact that there are clear issues with components put pause in anyone else to purchase? Or do you just find a replacement and move on?


Eliot Ricciardelli
 

I am specifically referring to the current rev of the uBitx. Specifically - the audio chip issue and the IMD issue. You stated all of yours are in spec and didn't mention any component issues so I assume you have none. That is helpful, thank you.


 

If what you have read is holding you back, perhaps you are really oriented more towards a production radio.? I personally would not count on seeing more than incremental changes, to the basic design, in the future.


 

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Eliott

The latest version of the uBITx is the v4, which doesn't have an audio chip at all (it has discrete transistors).?

The v4 board MAY have audio issues ... a small proportion of owners have experienced audio distortion.? There is a known fix for this issue and the fix is documented on ubitx.net.? The audio also has a bit lower output than the v3 board.

You discuss the IMD issue, but this doesn't appear to affect most users in practice.?? It may result in some splatter if you are over-driving the audio, but really can't be considered a major impediment to a purchaser.?

There are several other issues (see for a summary of pros and cons).

If you don't want to modify the board to fix issues that really matter (harmonics - the most substantial mod that is required), spurs (requires 3 parts), and to add an AGC (multiple parts) then I suggest you don't bother buying the kit.?? You may have to wait a while to see a further upgrade from HF Signals though (if ever)! If you don't mind spending a bit of time having fun making these changes, then go for it!? Lots of us out there are having fun.

73

Mike ZL1AXG ubitx.net
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On 9/10/18 6:26 AM, Eliot Ricciardelli via Groups.Io wrote:
I am specifically referring to the current rev of the uBitx. Specifically - the audio chip issue and the IMD issue. You stated all of yours are in spec and didn't mention any component issues so I assume you have none. That is helpful, thank you.


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Mike Woods
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Mike, what are the three parts to resolve spurs? I might have missed something.


Il 10/ott/2018 08:38, "Mike Woods" <mhwoods@...> ha scritto:
Eliott

The latest version of the uBITx is the v4, which doesn't have an audio chip at all (it has discrete transistors).?

The v4 board MAY have audio issues ... a small proportion of owners have experienced audio distortion.? There is a known fix for this issue and the fix is documented on .? The audio also has a bit lower output than the v3 board.

You discuss the IMD issue, but this doesn't appear to affect most users in practice.?? It may result in some splatter if you are over-driving the audio, but really can't be considered a major impediment to a purchaser.?

There are several other issues (see for a summary of pros and cons).

If you don't want to modify the board to fix issues that really matter (harmonics - the most substantial mod that is required), spurs (requires 3 parts), and to add an AGC (multiple parts) then I suggest you don't bother buying the kit.?? You may have to wait a while to see a further upgrade from HF Signals though (if ever)! If you don't mind spending a bit of time having fun making these changes, then go for it!? Lots of us out there are having fun.

73

Mike ZL1AXG
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On 9/10/18 6:26 AM, Eliot Ricciardelli via Groups.Io wrote:
I am specifically referring to the current rev of the uBitx. Specifically - the audio chip issue and the IMD issue. You stated all of yours are in spec and didn't mention any component issues so I assume you have none. That is helpful, thank you.


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Mike Woods
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Iz

Spurs news item:??



Just 3 parts and you will have that one licked.?? However, it may just be an expensive way of introducing -6dB of gain!

Mike

On 10/10/18 7:56 PM, iz oos wrote:

Mike, what are the three parts to resolve spurs? I might have missed something.


Il 10/ott/2018 08:38, "Mike Woods" <mhwoods@...> ha scritto:
Eliott

The latest version of the uBITx is the v4, which doesn't have an audio chip at all (it has discrete transistors).?

The v4 board MAY have audio issues ... a small proportion of owners have experienced audio distortion.? There is a known fix for this issue and the fix is documented on .? The audio also has a bit lower output than the v3 board.

You discuss the IMD issue, but this doesn't appear to affect most users in practice.?? It may result in some splatter if you are over-driving the audio, but really can't be considered a major impediment to a purchaser.?

There are several other issues (see for a summary of pros and cons).

If you don't want to modify the board to fix issues that really matter (harmonics - the most substantial mod that is required), spurs (requires 3 parts), and to add an AGC (multiple parts) then I suggest you don't bother buying the kit.?? You may have to wait a while to see a further upgrade from HF Signals though (if ever)! If you don't mind spending a bit of time having fun making these changes, then go for it!? Lots of us out there are having fun.

73

Mike ZL1AXG
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On 9/10/18 6:26 AM, Eliot Ricciardelli via Groups.Io wrote:
I am specifically referring to the current rev of the uBitx. Specifically - the audio chip issue and the IMD issue. You stated all of yours are in spec and didn't mention any component issues so I assume you have none. That is helpful, thank you.


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Mike Woods
mhwoods@...


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Mike Woods
mhwoods@...


 

Mike, see my SIMPLER spur fix without loss of Po!

Tested on two boards here..

Raj

At 10-10-18, you wrote:

Iz

Spurs news item:? ??



Just 3 parts and you will have that one licked.? ?? However, it may just be an expensive way of introducing -6dB of gain!

Mike

On 10/10/18 7:56 PM, iz oos wrote:

Mike, what are the three parts to resolve spurs? I might have missed something.

Il 10/ott/2018 08:38, "Mike Woods" <mhwoods@...> ha scritto:
Eliott

The latest version of the uBITx is the v4, which doesn't have an audio chip at all (it has discrete transistors).??

The v4 board MAY have audio issues ... a small proportion of owners have experienced audio distortion.?? There is a known fix for this issue and the fix is documented on .?? The audio also has a bit lower output than the v3 board.

You discuss the IMD issue, but this doesn't appear to affect most users in practice.? ?? It may result in some splatter if you are over-driving the audio, but really can't be considered a major impediment to a purchaser.??

There are several other issues (see for a summary of pros and cons).

If you don't want to modify the board to fix issues that really matter (harmonics - the most substantial mod that is required), spurs (requires 3 parts), and to add an AGC (multiple parts) then I suggest you don't bother buying the kit.? ?? You may have to wait a while to see a further upgrade from HF Signals though (if ever)! If you don't mind spending a bit of time having fun making these changes, then go for it!?? Lots of us out there are having fun.

73

Mike ZL1AXG
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On 9/10/18 6:26 AM, Eliot Ricciardelli via Groups.Io wrote:
I am specifically referring to the current rev of the uBitx. Specifically - the audio chip issue and the IMD issue. You stated all of yours are in spec and didn't mention any component issues so I assume you have none. That is helpful, thank you.


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Mike Woods
mhwoods@...

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Mike Woods
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I only just noticed it after I posted my reply to Iz, but your mod is now up on the website!

A very simple fix, albeit requiring the ordering of surface mount parts ...? The question is why does it work to reduce the spurs?

Mike

On 10/10/18 8:22 PM, Raj vu2zap wrote:
Mike, see my SIMPLER spur fix without loss of Po!

Tested on two boards here..

Raj

At 10-10-18, you wrote:
Iz

Spurs news item:? ??



Just 3 parts and you will have that one licked.? ?? However, it may just be an expensive way of introducing -6dB of gain!

Mike

On 10/10/18 7:56 PM, iz oos wrote:

Mike, what are the three parts to resolve spurs? I might have missed something.

Il 10/ott/2018 08:38, "Mike Woods" <mhwoods@...> ha scritto:
Eliott

The latest version of the uBITx is the v4, which doesn't have an audio chip at all (it has discrete transistors).??

The v4 board MAY have audio issues ... a small proportion of owners have experienced audio distortion.?? There is a known fix for this issue and the fix is documented on .?? The audio also has a bit lower output than the v3 board.

You discuss the IMD issue, but this doesn't appear to affect most users in practice.? ?? It may result in some splatter if you are over-driving the audio, but really can't be considered a major impediment to a purchaser.??

There are several other issues (see for a summary of pros and cons).

If you don't want to modify the board to fix issues that really matter (harmonics - the most substantial mod that is required), spurs (requires 3 parts), and to add an AGC (multiple parts) then I suggest you don't bother buying the kit.? ?? You may have to wait a while to see a further upgrade from HF Signals though (if ever)! If you don't mind spending a bit of time having fun making these changes, then go for it!?? Lots of us out there are having fun.

73

Mike ZL1AXG
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On 9/10/18 6:26 AM, Eliot Ricciardelli via Groups.Io wrote:
I am specifically referring to the current rev of the uBitx. Specifically - the audio chip issue and the IMD issue. You stated all of yours are in spec and didn't mention any component issues so I assume you have none. That is helpful, thank you.


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Mike Woods
mhwoods@...

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Mike Woods
mhwoods@...


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Joe Puma
 

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Are you saying that the second 45mhz mod can be removed from the TX with this mod? How much power loss is lost with the 45mhz is in place?

Nice work by the way. I¡¯d like to try this for sure.

Joe

PS wheres Allison been? She must be on vacation.?





On Oct 10, 2018, at 3:22 AM, Raj vu2zap <rajendrakumargg@...> wrote:

Mike, see my SIMPLER spur fix without loss of Po!

Tested on two boards here..

Raj

At 10-10-18, you wrote:
Iz

Spurs news item:? ??



Just 3 parts and you will have that one licked.? ?? However, it may just be an expensive way of introducing -6dB of gain!

Mike

On 10/10/18 7:56 PM, iz oos wrote:

Mike, what are the three parts to resolve spurs? I might have missed something.

Il 10/ott/2018 08:38, "Mike Woods" <mhwoods@...> ha scritto:
Eliott

The latest version of the uBITx is the v4, which doesn't have an audio chip at all (it has discrete transistors).??

The v4 board MAY have audio issues ... a small proportion of owners have experienced audio distortion.?? There is a known fix for this issue and the fix is documented on .?? The audio also has a bit lower output than the v3 board.

You discuss the IMD issue, but this doesn't appear to affect most users in practice.? ?? It may result in some splatter if you are over-driving the audio, but really can't be considered a major impediment to a purchaser.??

There are several other issues (see for a summary of pros and cons).

If you don't want to modify the board to fix issues that really matter (harmonics - the most substantial mod that is required), spurs (requires 3 parts), and to add an AGC (multiple parts) then I suggest you don't bother buying the kit.? ?? You may have to wait a while to see a further upgrade from HF Signals though (if ever)! If you don't mind spending a bit of time having fun making these changes, then go for it!?? Lots of us out there are having fun.

73

Mike ZL1AXG
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On 9/10/18 6:26 AM, Eliot Ricciardelli via Groups.Io wrote:
I am specifically referring to the current rev of the uBitx. Specifically - the audio chip issue and the IMD issue. You stated all of yours are in spec and didn't mention any component issues so I assume you have none. That is helpful, thank you.


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Mike Woods
mhwoods@...

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Mike Woods
mhwoods@...


 

Hope she's ok.? Sorta suddenly stopped posting.


 

Joe,

With 45MHz filter you may lose up to half the power. With SMD I get like 95% of stock.

Raj

At 11/10/2018, you wrote:
Are you saying that the second 45mhz mod can be removed from the TX with this mod? How much power loss is lost with the 45mhz is in place?

Nice work by the way. I?€?d like to try this for sure.

Joe

PS wheres Allison been? She must be on vacation.


Joe Puma
 

Wow wow. Okay no wonder I couldn¡¯t hear myself too well on websdrs after the mod. I thought it was just band conditions. I¡¯ll order those coils ASAP!! Thanks Raj for your knowledge as always

Joe

On Oct 11, 2018, at 3:40 AM, Raj vu2zap <rajendrakumargg@...> wrote:

Joe,

With 45MHz filter you may lose up to half the power. With SMD I get like 95% of stock.

Raj

At 11/10/2018, you wrote:
Are you saying that the second 45mhz mod can be removed from the TX with this mod? How much power loss is lost with the 45mhz is in place?

Nice work by the way. I¡¯d like to try this for sure.

Joe

PS wheres Allison been? She must be on vacation.