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Is this IMD?


 

Just looking for some insight.? See attachment for details.
Mike
K5ESS


Warren Allgyer
 

Mike

I don't think this is IMD per se. It looks to me like harmonics of the modulating tone. Those harmonics could be present in the tone itself or they could be generated by non-linearities in the audio chain.

For IMD measurements you need two tones with the pair centered in your filter passband and the tones must not be harmonically related. The difference between one of the tones and its adjacent product tone is the figure of merit for IMD. Your span and RBW are ok although if you have a lower RBW, 30 or 10 Hz, you will get better resolution and may see some close in products that are covered up at 100 Hz.

W


 

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Warren,

Guess I now agree that it¡¯s audio distortion creeping in somewhere.? I¡¯ll have to try tracing it down.?

Mike

K5ESS

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Subject: Re: [BITX20] Is this IMD?

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Mike

I don't think this is IMD per se. It looks to me like harmonics of the modulating tone. Those harmonics could be present in the tone itself or they could be generated by non-linearities in the audio chain.

For IMD measurements you need two tones with the pair centered in your filter passband and the tones must not be harmonically related. The difference between one of the tones and its adjacent product tone is the figure of merit for IMD. Your span and RBW are ok although if you have a lower RBW, 30 or 10 Hz, you will get better resolution and may see some close in products that are covered up at 100 Hz.

W


 

Distortion is the likely animal.?

If its more than 40db down that is not bad and not to worry about it.

To see IMD you need two equal tones inside the filter pass band with non harmonic relationship.
I use a 750hz and 1750hz as thse are in the typical voice bandwidth.

IF the IMD were perfect you see two tones in the sideband and much weaker ones
(more than 40-50db down) in the apposing sideband.? IF the IMD were poor you see
a flock of new tones (750+1750 and 750-1750 and harmonics of those) with varying
amplitude inside the filter pass band and outside of it.

Allison


Warren Allgyer
 

Allison

If the IMD were "perfect" you would see two tones, period. :-)

WA8TOD


 

Yes, but we know this is not perfect.? Wrong word should been reasonable.