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Hey, speaking of Dummies.? Here is one I came up with.
Its 4 -? 3W resistors.? Has RF tap (0602 Component) either for a resistor or Cap.
Shky diode and cap.? Place for LED (0805).? 3 Pin Molex for output monitoring.
You will have to fiddle with the values.?? Layout has lots of ground plane, both side of the PCB.

And you need the Male BNC Adaptor to go to the back of the Bit.
I got lots of PCB, $4 or Kit $12 (Includes BNC Adaptor, shipping, Paypal) US.

PCB can be shipped in and envelope, but the Kit gets a small box.

email me for more info
73's
Mike, WA6ISP
-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...



Jack Purdum
 

Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE




From: Michael Hagen <motdog@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Hey, speaking of Dummies.? Here is one I came up with.
Its 4 -? 3W resistors.? Has RF tap (0602 Component) either for a resistor or Cap.
Shky diode and cap.? Place for LED (0805).? 3 Pin Molex for output monitoring.
You will have to fiddle with the values.?? Layout has lots of ground plane, both side of the PCB.

And you need the Male BNC Adaptor to go to the back of the Bit.
I got lots of PCB, $4 or Kit $12 (Includes BNC Adaptor, shipping, Paypal) US.

PCB can be shipped in and envelope, but the Kit gets a small box.

email me for more info
73's
Mike, WA6ISP
-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...





 

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Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:

Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.



Jack, W8TEE




 

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It was designed with Bit in Mind.

I saw someone post the QRP Labs one???? So I thought I would show a better one.? ha..

This looked real good on the SA for return loss.

Its perfect for bit,? you never tune long enough to hurt it?? And you can stick it right out the back with the BNC Adaptor.

The biggest cost is the BNC connectors.

Stick in your coffee cup too, to reheat the Java!

I still have the Heathkit Can -Tenna somewhere?? I remember the can rotted out, I had to go to the paint store

and buy a new gallon paint can.? I used to tune the SB220 into it.? I think I put Automatic Transmission Fluid in it.


Mike, WA6ISP



On 12/22/2017 8:04 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.



Jack, W8TEE




From: Michael Hagen <motdog@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Hey, speaking of Dummies.? Here is one I came up with.
Its 4 -? 3W resistors.? Has RF tap (0602 Component) either for a resistor or Cap.
Shky diode and cap.? Place for LED (0805).? 3 Pin Molex for output monitoring.
You will have to fiddle with the values.?? Layout has lots of ground plane, both side of the PCB.

And you need the Male BNC Adaptor to go to the back of the Bit.
I got lots of PCB, $4 or Kit $12 (Includes BNC Adaptor, shipping, Paypal) US.

PCB can be shipped in and envelope, but the Kit gets a small box.

email me for more info
73's
Mike, WA6ISP
-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...





-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...


 

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You can buy the wattmeter IC on eBAY or buy the whole board.? I don't remember, AD?

I think I got the IC for about $1.?? I got it to track fairly well from 0 to -40 dBm.

I was using an HP function generator at 10 MHz.?? Nice, you can dial in dBm directly.


You would have to make a pi or t pad in front of them.? Reduce the power.

I used the Arduino to read them.

The info is on the net.? Search eBay too.

73's

Mike, WA6ISP


On 12/22/2017 8:12 AM, David Lacey via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.



Jack, W8TEE




-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...


 

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I`ll take a google around and see if I can find one. Thanks for the info Mike, I`m thinking they could
be useful!
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:25, Michael Hagen wrote:

You can buy the wattmeter IC on eBAY or buy the whole board.? I don't remember, AD?

I think I got the IC for about $1.?? I got it to track fairly well from 0 to -40 dBm.

I was using an HP function generator at 10 MHz.?? Nice, you can dial in dBm directly.


You would have to make a pi or t pad in front of them.? Reduce the power.

I used the Arduino to read them.

The info is on the net.? Search eBay too.

73's

Mike, WA6ISP


On 12/22/2017 8:12 AM, David Lacey via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.



Jack, W8TEE




-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...


Vince Vielhaber
 

Are you referring to the AD-8307 ??

Vince.

On 12/22/2017 11:25 AM, Michael Hagen wrote:
You can buy the wattmeter IC on eBAY or buy the whole board. I don't
remember, AD?

I think I got the IC for about $1. I got it to track fairly well from
0 to -40 dBm.

I was using an HP function generator at 10 MHz. Nice, you can dial in
dBm directly.


You would have to make a pi or t pad in front of them. Reduce the power.

I used the Arduino to read them.

The info is on the net. Search eBay too.

73's

Mike, WA6ISP


On 12/22/2017 8:12 AM, David Lacey via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have
further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was
a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here.
The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that
this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE

--
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID "MotDog@..."
Mike@...

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Yes, I was too busy to go get my schematics out.? I bought 10 from eBay.? Don't know if they are real ones?

I have them on one of my boards, seem to work OK.

There are more (newer) models now.? But expensive buying from a distributor.


Mike


On 12/22/2017 9:43 AM, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
Are you referring to the AD-8307 ??

Vince.



On 12/22/2017 11:25 AM, Michael Hagen wrote:
You can buy the wattmeter IC on eBAY or buy the whole board.? I don't
remember, AD?

I think I got the IC for about $1.?? I got it to track fairly well from
0 to -40 dBm.

I was using an HP function generator at 10 MHz.?? Nice, you can dial in
dBm directly.


You would have to make a pi or t pad in front of them.? Reduce the power.

I used the Arduino to read them.

The info is on the net.? Search eBay too.

73's

Mike, WA6ISP


On 12/22/2017 8:12 AM, David Lacey via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have
further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was
a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here.
The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that
this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE




--
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID? "MotDog@..."
Mike@...




-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...


Jack Purdum
 

We ran this one at 200W for 5 minutes and nothing failed...didn't even discolor the resistors. However, you could cook French fries in the oil.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Michael Hagen <motdog@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

It was designed with Bit in Mind.
I saw someone post the QRP Labs one???? So I thought I would show a better one.? ha..
This looked real good on the SA for return loss.
Its perfect for bit,? you never tune long enough to hurt it?? And you can stick it right out the back with the BNC Adaptor.
The biggest cost is the BNC connectors.
Stick in your coffee cup too, to reheat the Java!
I still have the Heathkit Can -Tenna somewhere?? I remember the can rotted out, I had to go to the paint store
and buy a new gallon paint can.? I used to tune the SB220 into it.? I think I put Automatic Transmission Fluid in it.

Mike, WA6ISP


On 12/22/2017 8:04 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE




From: Michael Hagen <motdog@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Hey, speaking of Dummies.? Here is one I came up with.
Its 4 -? 3W resistors.? Has RF tap (0602 Component) either for a resistor or Cap.
Shky diode and cap.? Place for LED (0805).? 3 Pin Molex for output monitoring.
You will have to fiddle with the values.?? Layout has lots of ground plane, both side of the PCB.

And you need the Male BNC Adaptor to go to the back of the Bit.
I got lots of PCB, $4 or Kit $12 (Includes BNC Adaptor, shipping, Paypal) US.

PCB can be shipped in and envelope, but the Kit gets a small box.

email me for more info
73's
Mike, WA6ISP
-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...





-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...



Jack Purdum
 

It won't be a kit, but it has been accepted for publication by QST for sometime in 2018. The circuit is about as simple as it gets:

Inline image


Jack, W8TEE



From: David Lacey via Groups.Io <g4jbe@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE






 

Jack,

?Any chance at the code? I have pretty much all of that ready to go and a dummy load that would love that as a add on. Could it be used inline for active monitoring of output? I need a good meter but no radio funds outside spare parts at this time.

73

?David


M Garza
 

What is the power rating for this gem?? I have a home brew 800 watt dummy load that this would make complete!

Thanks

Marco - KG5PRT

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 12:43 PM, N8DAH <Dherron@...> wrote:

Jack,

?Any chance at the code? I have pretty much all of that ready to go and a dummy load that would love that as a add on. Could it be used inline for active monitoring of output? I need a good meter but no radio funds outside spare parts at this time.

73

?David



 

Critical thing is, exactly what resistors did you use to build the 50 ohm resistor assembly?
Or do we have to wait for that QST article?

For those with a spare analog pin into the Raduino and an inclination for Arduino hacking,
you can strip out the Nano, OLED, switch and battery from Jack's schematic.


On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:26 am, Jack Purdum wrote:
It won't be a kit, but it has been accepted for publication by QST for sometime in 2018. The circuit is about as simple as it gets:
?


 

I used 20 1k OHM metal oxide flame proof does 50W cont 100W peak with no cooling system in place. SWR 1.6 or lower 10-80m.


 

https://twitter.com/N8DAH/status/833800940851441664


 

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Many thanks for the information Jack, Hope it appears in QST for you.
Dave
G4JBE


On 22/12/2017 18:26, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:

It won't be a kit, but it has been accepted for publication by QST for sometime in 2018. The circuit is about as simple as it gets:




Jack, W8TEE



From: David Lacey via Groups.Io <g4jbe@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE







Jack Purdum
 

We used 20 1KΩ metal film resistors connected in parallel. They are linked like this:

Inline image

it is less expensive than the DL shown in the Projects book, which used brass sheets.

Jack, W8TEE





From: Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Critical thing is, exactly what resistors did you use to build the 50 ohm resistor assembly?
Or do we have to wait for that QST article?

For those with a spare analog pin into the Raduino and an inclination for Arduino hacking,
you can strip out the Nano, OLED, switch and battery from Jack's schematic.


On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:26 am, Jack Purdum wrote:
It won't be a kit, but it has been accepted for publication by QST for sometime in 2018. The circuit is about as simple as it gets:
?



Jack Purdum
 

We tested it at 200W for 5 minutes without any damage or charring. The oil, however, gets pretty toasty at that power level. The code is little changed from that in the Projects book, which is available online. I can't give everything out as then there'd be little reason for QST to publish it.

Jack, W8TEE



From: M Garza <mgarza896@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

What is the power rating for this gem?? I have a home brew 800 watt dummy load that this would make complete!

Thanks

Marco - KG5PRT

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 12:43 PM, N8DAH <Dherron@...> wrote:
Jack,
?Any chance at the code? I have pretty much all of that ready to go and a dummy load that would love that as a add on. Could it be used inline for active monitoring of output? I need a good meter but no radio funds outside spare parts at this time.
73
?David




Trent Trent
 

Have u got the sketch for that Jack and also can any other diode be used

On 23 Dec. 2017 5:26 am, "Jack Purdum via Groups.Io" <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:
It won't be a kit, but it has been accepted for publication by QST for sometime in 2018. The circuit is about as simple as it gets:

Inline image


Jack, W8TEE



From: David Lacey via Groups.Io <g4jbe=[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE






Trent Trent
 

Thanx

On 23 Dec. 2017 5:26 am, "Jack Purdum via Groups.Io" <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:
It won't be a kit, but it has been accepted for publication by QST for sometime in 2018. The circuit is about as simple as it gets:

Inline image


Jack, W8TEE



From: David Lacey via Groups.Io <g4jbe=[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Dummy

Hi Jack
Very interested in the Wattmeter side of this project, do you have further information circuit diagram etc
on this item or maybe available as a kit??
Dave
G4JBE

On 22/12/2017 16:04, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
Mike:

Or, how about 150W DL with builtin wattmeter for under $20? This was a build our group did a couple of months ago. The lid is shown here. The resistor network sits in a mineral oil bath. The downside is that this is considerably larger than yours and a little more expensive.

Inline image

Jack, W8TEE