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Calibration & filters #calibration #filters


 

Hello,

thank you for your answer
My test model exactly follows the diagram of the 45MHZ filter (self, capacitor and 45MHZ filter)
there is a toroid transformer at the inlet and outlet and the capacitors are replaced by adjustable
The best measurement is with a plate that loses 2DB
I did not measure with my nanovna on my homebrew
The diagram of my homebrew is a bit different because I was inspired by MOTHY¡¯s editing
In any case a test done by injecting a signal to the input of converter 1 and looking at its output, gives me more signal around 44.9921 mhz and 45.00827 mhz.
On the 45mhz, it drops and therefore looks more like a curve as if we were testing the filter directly on a nanovna. (This must explain the low reception)
(I can deconnect my Si5351 because it is a module, very useful for tests)
The filters are motorola 20J26, the documentation of which is not found.
So, I ordered others, after I can modify my circuitry, even if it means making a 4-pole filter)
Moreover on these motorola filters, there is no repere point to associate them.
I don¡¯t know how we can track this down to associate 2. Maybe by testing them with a nanovna


the MOTHY 45mhz filter



 

Hello,
a little code reading before my question on value of frequencies

Code UBITX V4.3
The uBITX is an upconnversion transceiver. The first IF is at 45 MHz.
? ?The first IF frequency is not exactly at 45 Mhz but about 5 khz lower,
? ?this shift is due to the loading on the 45 Mhz crystal filter by the matching
? ?L-network used on it's either sides.
? ?The first oscillator works between 48 Mhz and 75 MHz. The signal is subtracted
? ?from the first oscillator to arriive at 45 Mhz IF. Thus, it is inverted : LSB becomes USB
? ?and USB becomes LSB.
? ?The second IF of 12 Mhz has a ladder crystal filter. If a second oscillator is used at
? ?57 Mhz, the signal is subtracted FROM the oscillator, inverting a second time, and arrives
? ?at the 12 Mhz ladder filter thus doouble inversion, keeps the sidebands as they originally were.
? ?If the second oscillator is at 33 Mhz, the oscilaltor is subtracated from the signal,
? ?thus keeping the signal's sidebands inverted. The USB will become LSB.
? ?We use this technique to switch sidebands. This is to avoid placing the lsbCarrier close to
? ?12 MHz where its fifth harmonic beats with the arduino's 16 Mhz oscillator's fourth harmonic
*/
// the second oscillator should ideally be at 57 MHz, however, the crystal filter's center frequency
// is shifted down a little due to the loading from the impedance matching L-networks on either sides
#define SECOND_OSC_USB (56995000l)
#define SECOND_OSC_LSB (32995000l)
?
?
//these are the two default USB and LSB frequencies. The best frequencies depend upon your individual taste and filter shape
#define INIT_USB_FREQ? ?(11998370l)
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Code KD8CEC
.....
?#define SECOND_OSC_USB (57003400l)
? #define SECOND_OSC_LSB (33010400l)?
? //these are the two default USB and LSB frequencies. The best frequencies depend upon your individual taste and filter shape
? //Not used, Just comment (Default)
? #define INIT_USB_FREQ? ?(11996500l)
....

MY TESTS:
I made a model to test my 45MHZ filter with a nanovna (So i change the value of inductance and capacitors for maching (1.5 ?h and 8pf) on my homebrew assembly))
this gives:
Central frequency: 45.004280 MHZ
Low frequency at -3DB: 44.997900 MHZ approximately
High frequency at -3DB: 45.010480 MHZ approximately

My question:
function of the values (which are different) in the code v4.3 of the Ubitx and KD8CEC? and my filter frequencies description , what would be the 3 best values for USB freq, OSC USB and OSC LSB knowing that a priori they take into account matching ?
I would like to amend the code to that effect

cdt


 

I specify, I am currently working with a 12mhz SSB filter