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Hello all. Like most of you, I have been getting many many Bitx Digests a day. Some are interesting, some not so much. They seem to fall into 3 categories. Bitx40 hardware, Arduino hacks, and 2 way chat discussions. IMHO, having a 2 way discussion/chat should be done as an individual, not group interchange. It just clogs up the group. Also the strings of Arduino discussion should be on a separate group, if that is at all possible. This would leave [email protected] for radio hardware discussion exclusively. I know many of you are probably thinking that all the information is of, or should be interesting to all. I’m not sure that is the case. If you have any suggestions, please share them. Just my opinion. Thanks ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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I'VE ENDURED THE FIFTY (50) AND MORE MSGS A DAY.... BUT TODAY THE TOTAL HAS HIT NINETY TWO (92) !!!!!!!! ?READ THE BELOW MSG!!!!!!! ?INSTEAD OF DROPING OUT OF THE GROUP... ?I'VE DECIDED TO TAG ALL AND DELETE ALL EVERY DAY OR SO.... IT'S NOT WORTH MY TIME TO READ? "TANK YOU"? "I AGREE" ?"ETC? ETC.." ?THIS WAS MOVED HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BITX 40...? ?MINE WORKED THE FIRST TIME WITH THE VFO PROVIDED AND I'VE MADE MANY QSO S ... IT'S A NICE UNIT AND I'LL BE WAITING FOR THE ?"MICRO MULTI BAND BITX"
73? Ralph?? K1KOB
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From: Michael Davis <maddmd818@...>
To: BITX20 < [email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 9:32 am
Subject: [BITX20] many too many
Hello all. Like most of you, I have been getting many many Bitx Digests a day. Some are interesting, some not so much. They seem to fall into 3 categories. Bitx40 hardware, Arduino hacks, and 2 way chat discussions. IMHO, having a 2 way discussion/chat should be done as an individual, not group interchange. It just clogs up the group. Also the strings of Arduino discussion should be on a separate group, if that is at all possible. This would leave [email protected] for radio hardware discussion exclusively. I know many of you are probably thinking that all the information is of, or should be interesting to all. I’m not sure that is the case. If you have any suggestions, please share them. Just my opinion. Thanks ?
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To all,?
This is a frustrating subject.
I want it all.
I want it all in one place.
I want it in a form where it is easy to find what I want.
I worked in the AS/400 world for a dozen years. ?Managing data was what I did. ?Having to endure data chaos is a challenging exercise, when it isn’t necessary. ?That said, I don’t see an easy fix, without cost and/or man-hours, so we endure or do without.
I for one vote to endure, the last thing I need is another group or website to hunt for anything.
I have been out of programming for half a dozen years, as I have been out most everything with a medical issue, now, I am back in the game in a limited way. ?My question is: Is there a way to scrub thru a group like this with an external program to find what you want? I would think there is a commercial product somewhere that would that.
Next: It seems that there is a big enough following to create a meaningful wiki? Next: Keeping threads on subject (would require full time moderation)
With all said….
I would rather have it all.
Craig KM4YEC
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On Apr 28, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Michael Davis < maddmd818@...> wrote:
Hello all. Like most of you, I have been getting many many Bitx Digests a day. Some are interesting, some not so much. They seem to fall into 3 categories. Bitx40 hardware, Arduino hacks, and 2 way chat discussions. IMHO, having a 2 way discussion/chat should be done as an individual, not group interchange. It just clogs up the group. Also the strings of Arduino discussion should be on a separate group, if that is at all possible. This would leave ?[email protected]?for radio hardware discussion exclusively. I know many of you are probably thinking that all the information is of, or should be interesting to all. I’m not sure that is the case. If you have any suggestions, please share them. Just my opinion. Thanks ? Sent from??for Windows 10 ?
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I agree with Craig.? Keep it coming.? I want it in one place also, and if someone does not want to follow a topic, then just hit the delete button.? The vast majority of what I have seen on this forum applies to the Bitx family of projects in one way or the other.? Thanks. ? 73, Dale? K9NN ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Thibodeaux
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 11:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] many too many? This is a frustrating subject. I want it all in one place. I want it in a form where it is easy to find what I want. I worked in the AS/400 world for a dozen years. ?Managing data was what I did. ?Having to endure data chaos is a challenging exercise, when it isn’t necessary. ?That said, I don’t see an easy fix, without cost and/or man-hours, so we endure or do without. I for one vote to endure, the last thing I need is another group or website to hunt for anything. I have been out of programming for half a dozen years, as I have been out most everything with a medical issue, now, I am back in the game in a limited way. ?My question is: Is there a way to scrub thru a group like this with an external program to find what you want? I would think there is a commercial product somewhere that would that. Next: It seems that there is a big enough following to create a meaningful wiki? Next: Keeping threads on subject (would require full time moderation) I would rather have it all. ? On Apr 28, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Michael Davis <maddmd818@...> wrote: ? Hello all. Like most of you, I have been getting many many Bitx Digests a day. Some are interesting, some not so much. They seem to fall into 3 categories. Bitx40 hardware, Arduino hacks, and 2 way chat discussions. IMHO, having a 2 way discussion/chat should be done as an individual, not group interchange. It just clogs up the group. Also the strings of Arduino discussion should be on a separate group, if that is at all possible. This would leave?[email protected]?for radio hardware discussion exclusively. I know many of you are probably thinking that all the information is of, or should be interesting to all. I’m not sure that is the case. If you have any suggestions, please share them. Just my opinion. Thanks Sent from??for Windows 10
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Yup, lots of cruft on this forum, of which this thread is a primary example. ?;-) I prefer to keep it all in one place. Many threads cross over between the various domains suggested, for example Raduino programming and hardware mods. ?If your radio works, then you can just unsubscribe and occasionally check the groups.io website for a vague idea of what's going on. Wiki is here: ?/g/BITX20/wiki What I'd like is a way to download all messages from the groups.io website so I can sic an intelligent search tool on them. ?The groups.io search bar is nearly unusable. ?There is mention of downloading all messages in the groups.io help section but didn't work for me. ?My guess is that one must own the list to download all messages. ?Maybe they could be downloaded and archived somewhere else once a week or so.
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I'm drinking from the fire hose and still thirsty, keep it coming. My delete button is fully functional and oft used.
73, Richard W2KAP 
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote: Yup, lots of cruft on this forum, of which this thread is a primary example. ?;-) I prefer to keep it all in one place. Many threads cross over between the various domains suggested, for example Raduino programming and hardware mods.? If your radio works, then you can just unsubscribe and occasionally check the website for a vague idea of what's going on. Wiki is here: ?/g/BITX20/wiki What I'd like is a way to download all messages from the website so I can sic an intelligent search tool on them.? The search bar is nearly unusable.? There is mention of downloading all messages in the help section but didn't work for me.? My guess is that one must own the list to download all messages.? Maybe they could be downloaded and archived somewhere else once a week or so.
-- W2KAP In any given circuit, the most expensive part will always sacrifice itself to protect the fuse.
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Jerry, have you tried Thunderbird?
73, Richard W2KAP 
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, richard kappler <richkappler@...> wrote: I'm drinking from the fire hose and still thirsty, keep it coming. My delete button is fully functional and oft used.
73, Richard W2KAP ![]()
-- W2KAP In any given circuit, the most expensive part will always sacrifice itself to protect the fuse.
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I use thunderbird. ?But monitor the list using the groups.io website. ?I"d like to search the last 10+ years of bitx20 posts.
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How I manage the flood...
Go to?/g/BITX20/editsub and set email to a level you can live with. I like just the daily summary but many prefer none.? Then use the topic view /g/BITX20/topics on the website and read what you are interested in and the list reads almost like a forum.? The search could use some work but at least this converts the fire hose to a drinkable level.
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do what I'm doing with this message, deleting them fast ;-)
On 04/28/2017 11:41 AM, Jerry Gaffke
via Groups.Io wrote:
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I use thunderbird. ?But monitor the list using the groups.io
website. ?I"d like to search the last 10+ years of bitx20 posts.
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?Hello
? Th ?is? group was started way back when Farhan first published his design for the BITX20 on ?? < ?> and has evolved to include all the subsequent versions of BITX design. ?? That history has made this the one place to go for inclusive information regarding BITX designs, discussion, and help.?? Because of this history the topics discussed are far ranging and sometimes quite involved.? A discussion between two or more persons may be seen as a technical discussion by some and as just discussion by others with differing interests.? If it relates in any way to BITX it is probably appropriate for this group.
It is possible to filter what we read versus what we discard by using the thread names, but only if threads are kept on-topic and are not so broadly named as to not define what is being discussed.? I wonder it it might help to use the thread header to identify the topic being discussed (i.e. "BITX40 Mixer" or "BITX17A Microphone", etc.)?? Might work, but only if it were used by most...?
This is a large group that represents many interests and several levels of technical expertise.? Trying to drive the focus too tightly on one specific subject tends to limit the value as a general repository for all BITX related information and experiences.
Arv K7HKL
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On 29/04/17 03:19, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io wrote:
I prefer to keep it all in one place.
That doesn't work, as things get lost even after just one day. [....] If your radio works, then you can just unsubscribe and
occasionally check
People like it here, and want to stay. Wiki is here: /g/BITX20/wiki Members are expected to Wiki things that they are find. What I'd like is a way to download all messages from the groups.io
website so I can sic an intelligent search tool on them. The
groups.io search bar is nearly unusable.
That's what a www forum is. With the current level of traffic, the group will implode as "unreadable". Too much data flow and not much of it usable after even just a week. Steve ZL1BHD
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I was on the PIC List probably back to the 80's.? Same deal,
users have so much difference in the level of help they need.
Then the chit chat was even worse.? One thing they made was a
topic called "Off Topic".? You could filter out chit chat.
I use Thunderbird and made a folder for BitX emails.? Yes, in a
few months there are 924 in there now!
So the group could use some topic filters? maybe "Chat" in the
Subject line for starters?
Mike, WA6ISP
On 4/28/2017 9:05 AM, Doug W wrote:
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How I manage the flood...
Go to?/g/BITX20/editsub
and set email to a level you can live with. I like just the
daily summary but many prefer none.? Then use the topic view /g/BITX20/topics
on the website and read what you are interested in and the list
reads almost like a forum.? The search could use some work but
at least this converts the fire hose to a drinkable level.
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?On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 07:32 am, Michael Davis wrote:
Hello all. Like most of you, I have been getting many many Bitx Digests a day. Some are interesting, some not so much. They seem to fall into 3 categories. Bitx40 hardware, Arduino hacks, and 2 way chat discussions. IMHO, having a 2 way discussion/chat should be done as an individual, not group interchange. It just clogs up the group. Also the strings of Arduino discussion should be on a separate group, if that is at all possible. This would leave [email protected] for radio hardware discussion exclusively. I know many of you are probably thinking that all the information is of, or should be interesting to all. I’m not sure that is the case. If you have any suggestions, please share them. Just my opinion. Thanks ??
? If the current paradigm isn't acceptable, change the paradigm. I get zero email. ?Ok, not 100% accurate - I get admin emails from the owners and nothing more. ?When I want to drink from the firehose, I type groups.io/g/BITX20 into my browser and gulp. ?I can search for what I want, I only follow threads if I want. ?I've spent too much of my time in 'work land' wasting time fighting the onslaught of email. ?The only way to win that game is not to play. Email Delivery All MessagesYou will receive each message in an individual email.Full Featured DigestGroup up to 12 messages together as one email instead of being sent individually (rich formatting).Plain DigestGroup up to 12 messages together as one email instead of being sent individually (plain formatting).Daily SummaryA daily summary, delivered in the morning, of the group's messages from the previous day.Special Notices OnlyYou will only receive special notices from the moderators.No EmailYou will receive no emails.
It's good to have choices - and the subscription tab in the upper left corner delivers them in spades.
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Go to ADVANCED options....
NOW you only get a "heads up" for a new topic... If you're interested, follow it, if not, delete it & you'll NEVER be bothered by that thread again. Simple.
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73 de Noel, ZL1NC
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Craig Wadsworth