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Blinking red light
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I just completed my Bit-X 40 kit and when powering up I have a blinking red light on the Raduino board. I also get a clinking noise in the audio whenever the light flashes. ?I also have no numbers on the freq. readout but it does light up. ?I have not yet set up the radio and this may be part of the problem. ?Any help would be appreciated as I am a newbie on this radio. KJ4ZSI |
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Jack Purdum
Any bets that it's blinking at one second intervals? Some vendors load the Blink program that comes as a sample program with the IDE as it gives visual confirmation that the uC is working. To test, load the IDE, set the Board to Nano, and select the COM port for the USB link to your PC and then load the Blink program (File --> Examples --> Basics --> Blink). In there you'll see a call to a function named delay(1000). Change that to delay(500), compile and upload to the Raduino. See if the blink rate is now twice as fast. If so, happy days are here again! Jack, W8TEE From: "hotrod541@..." <hotrod541@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:08 PM Subject: [BITX20] Blinking red light I just completed my Bit-X 40 kit and when powering up I have a blinking red light on the Raduino board. I also get a clinking noise in the audio whenever the light flashes. ?I also have no numbers on the freq. readout but it does light up. ?I have not yet set up the radio and this may be part of the problem. ?Any help would be appreciated as I am a newbie on this radio. KJ4ZSI
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开云体育The radio does not even need to be connected. If you have the computer and display you may hook it up to the usb port of your computer. If you have the tuning pot connected it should work stand alone. If it does not you will need to reload the sketch. All the software is free and what you need is listed in the group. ? v/r Fred W3JLE From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hotrod541@... ? I just completed my Bit-X 40 kit and when powering up I have a blinking red light on the Raduino board. I also get a clinking noise in the audio whenever the light flashes. ?I also have no numbers on the freq. readout but it does light up. ?I have not yet set up the radio and this may be part of the problem. ?Any help would be appreciated as I am a newbie on this radio. KJ4ZSI |
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Jack Purdum
Again, the fact that the Nano has a blinking LED and the display lights up tells me that Nano is running the Blink sketch, not the Raduino code. Just get the software together, load the Raduino code into the Arduino IDE, compile and upload, and you're done. Jack, W8TEE From: Dr Fred Hambrecht <AAR4MI@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Blinking red light The radio does not even need to be connected. If you have the computer and display you may hook it up to the usb port of your computer. If you have the tuning pot connected it should work stand alone. If it does not you will need to reload the sketch. All the software is free and what you need is listed in the group. ? v/r Fred W3JLE From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hotrod541@... Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 22:08 To: [email protected] Subject: [BITX20] Blinking red light ? I just completed my Bit-X 40 kit and when powering up I have a blinking red light on the Raduino board. I also get a clinking noise in the audio whenever the light flashes. ?I also have no numbers on the freq. readout but it does light up. ?I have not yet set up the radio and this may be part of the problem. ?Any help would be appreciated as I am a newbie on this radio. KJ4ZSI |
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I don't know if what I'm saying is correct but wouldn't it be a lot easier for a newcomer to just load a copy of the a hex code file then go through the whole process of getting the script, compiling the script and loading? Then they can get on with actually just playing with the radio. Roy WA0YMH Carrollton, TX On Feb 24, 2017 10:24 AM, "Jack Purdum via Groups.Io" <econjack=[email protected]> wrote:
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Jack Purdum
Actually, loading the hex file is harder. At the end of the assembly manual here: tells how to download the software and compile and upload a program. Let me know if you have questions. Jack, W8TEE From: Roy Appleton <twelveoclockhigh@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Blinking red light I don't know if what I'm saying is correct but wouldn't it be a lot easier for a newcomer to just load a copy of the a hex code file then go through the whole process of getting the script, compiling the script and loading? Then they can get on with actually just playing with the radio. Roy WA0YMH Carrollton, TX On Feb 24, 2017 10:24 AM, "Jack Purdum via Groups.Io" <econjack=[email protected]> wrote:
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Thanks for the clarification, this is all new and sometimes I'm just grasping at straws! ?:-)) Roy WA0YMH Carrollton, TX On Feb 24, 2017 12:08 PM, "Jack Purdum via Groups.Io" <econjack=[email protected]> wrote:
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Hi Roy
Goto and download and install XLoader. Then just load up the .HEX file in XLoader and upload it to the Nano. There is no need to load up the Arduino development environment unless you want to make changes. 73 Peter - GM8JCF -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 91033 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan |
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Jack Purdum
Very true, Peter. Now tell him where to find the hex file. For many novice programmers, it's easier to compile and load the source because the hex file location depends upon how the compiler was installed. If we have an uploaded copy of the hex file, and they can download it from one place, no problem. Personally, I would rather teach the person how to fish than give them one fish.? Just my two cents... Jack, W8TEE From: G8JCF <g8jcf@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Blinking red light Hi Roy Goto and download and install XLoader. Then just load up the .HEX file in XLoader and upload it to the Nano. There is no need to load up the Arduino development environment unless you want to make changes. 73 Peter - GM8JCF -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 91033 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan |
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Peter, thanks for the info! Roy WA0YMH Carrollton, TX On Feb 24, 2017 3:18 PM, "G8JCF" <g8jcf@...> wrote: Hi Roy |
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Hi Jack
Personally I really enjoy fishing and have been doing so for over 45 years now, and think that everyone should learn to fish, but fishing is not to everyone's taste :) I think that many (most ?) people don't want to be programmers (novice or otherwise), just users. Those who do the programming and want to share their efforts with those who can't/don't program could post their .HEX file to a "well known" place, eg files section on this group (and the .HEX is tiny), and then post the URL to the file to the group. I do think that perhaps the files section should have a firmware folder/directory into which programmers could place their .HEX files for others to download. 73 Peter - GM8JCF -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 91067 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan |
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Jack Purdum
Peter: You're right. Not everyone wants to get under the hood. I used to tell my students about being at my cabin in Canada, about 350 miles north of Toronto. As I pulled out from the gravel road, I saw a man standing beside a brand new Lamborghini Countach with the hood up, arms folded. I'll bet he kinda wished he had spent a little time under the hood. Jack, W8TEE From: G8JCF <g8jcf@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Blinking red light Hi Jack Personally I really enjoy fishing and have been doing so for over 45 years now, and think that everyone should learn to fish, but fishing is not to everyone's taste :) I think that many (most ?) people don't want to be programmers (novice or otherwise), just users. Those who do the programming and want to share their efforts with those who can't/don't program could post their .HEX file to a "well known" place, eg files section on this group (and the .HEX is tiny), and then post the URL to the file to the group. I do think that perhaps the files section should have a firmware folder/directory into which programmers could place their .HEX files for others to download. 73 Peter - GM8JCF -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 91067 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan |
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Jack Purdum
If I came across that way, I surely did not mean too. I want everyone who can fog a mirror to give programming a try and will do what I can to encourage them. Indeed, my Beginning C for Arduino book is aimed directly at the person who has never programmed before. If you have a software question, by all means ask it. Chances are someone else has exactly the same question, but someone needs to post it to draw out an answer that might help multiple readers. Jack, W8TEE From: College Professor Simon Thompson <nwccenglishprofessor@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Blinking red light I have never programmed an Arduino, and that is something I will need to learn to do. Having said that, I think it is important that, for the sake of us non-programmers, some patience might be extended. I know that I will have many very elementary questions to ask when my transceiver shows up. |
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Thomas Noel
开云体育All,To download, install and configure, and add the necessary newer Libraries to the Arduino IDE is not markedly more involved than downloading and installing the software needed to load HEX files to an Arduino. Jack - it might benefit many if someone in the know would list the few steps to success as a “recipe" In my case, I have Arduino IDE version 1.8.1 for both Mac and Windows 10. I had to update to Etherkit Si5351 v. 2.0.1, and the updated Sketch that takes advantage of that library update - “raduino_new_library.ino" Compile and upload were straightforward first try. No “programming” needed at all - just cookbook. I do have some remote programming experience in COBOL, FORTRAN, Basic, and shell scripting, so at least the terminology was less foreign. Someone who is a more skilled wordsmith want to give it a try? Or multiple someones?? Thomas W Noel KF7RSF
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Well said Simon.
I "love" programming, but I know that most people don't and regard it as "odd", "geeky", "weird", not very sociable, and whilst they respect programmers (I think and hope), they don't want to become one - beats me why not, but in my 60 years of life (and programming from 4004's to 8008/6800/6502/6809/68000/MIPS/ARM) that's what seems to be the prevailing wind ! The success of Apple, IMHO, is testament to the power of the user vs. the creator/maker (I don't, and will never, own a piece of Apple kit). So having said all of that, people who just want to use technology shouldn't be sneered-at/denigrated, but they should be helped to make use of technology without any condescension by the "high priests". 73 Peter - GM8JCF PS, if you are into SDR, then search for "G8JCFSDR" to find my SDR software -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 91193 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan |
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College Professor Simon Thompson
开云体育What is a “library?” What is the Arduino IDE? What are HEX files? What is Etherkit Si5351 v.2.0.1? What is a Sketch? What is a library update? How do you compile a library update? What does compile mean? How do you upload a library update after you compile it? What does remote programming experience in Basic have to do with any of the preceding questions??You see, you know more than you think you know; you take what you know for granted, so you assume that what you know is not so much. Those of us who are not familiar with the terminology and concepts simply find this “oh, there is nothing to it” routine rather hard to believe.?
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Well said! Roy WA0YMH Carrollton, TX On Feb 25, 2017 8:32 PM, "College Professor Simon Thompson" <nwccenglishprofessor@...> wrote:
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Thomas Noel
开云体育College Professor Simon Thompson,Go back and read what I wrote. No where did I say or imply that I don’t know a lot about this subject. As a matter of fact I directly acknowledged that my previous experience made this new step more easily understood for me. I know exactly what I know; I lived the 40+ years of many hours and many thousands of dollars it took to acquire that knowledge. My previous experience allowed me to get this done without a recipe. My point is that such a background is not needed here.? If you will grant that some basic understanding of using your computer is to be expected of anyone that finds themselves following an obscure email list, a "recipe equivalent" of step by step directions will get the job done. The Arduino Integrated Development Environment (IDE - there, you are smarter already) isolates the user from needing most of that background, and is very straightforward if you just need to convert (compile) a Sketch (human readable line by line program) to a HEX file (machine readable program file) and copy it into the Arduino (upload). It might well require an advanced cook to write out the recipe, but any cook can follow the directions once complete. Lets not create artificial barriers to success. Ex-College Professor, and less snarky,? Thomas W Noel KF7RSF
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